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Spammer Gets Spam Mailed
ssblood noted a story about a spammer getting what he deserves as well as a related story
from the Register.
Essentially the virtual spammer is capable of sending a billion emails a day, and is getting sacks of physical junk mail from irritable folks. Apparently part of this plot was hatched on familiar turf too.
..and first post?
I think the Internet commmunity needs to fight against spammers just like this.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/06/155422 7&mode=nested&tid=133
Or should I go back to bed on a Sunday morning...
karma...
/. cheapened use of the word.
Ain't it a bitch?
And I don't mean
....hhiihihihi....
I dunno! =D
Either this is a duplicate, or Taco needs to head back on his honeymoon.
Or maybe I'm jaded and have seen this a zillion times already, with absolutely no new data. Yah yah, we know he's annoyed. Ya ya we know he's gotten in touch with some muckity muck lawyer.
Cmon, lets get some meat!
Ok....? Getting back a little of what you dish out justifies calling people "Out of their minds". I can see if they were firebombing his house, but sending him junk mail? ;) Come on Alan, what're you thinking.
This has to be the best story ever. The funniest thing I've heard today at LEAST!
...with old news, wonder why I even bother to point this out...
Original Here
...and read this: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/06/155422 7&mode=thread&tid=133
"Almost 300 anti-Ralsky posts were made on the Slashdot.org Web site..."
Sure that sounds impressive, but how many of those were dupes?
Jeesh this is I don't know how old...
Original Article
Follow up Article
the story references to slashdot as being the place where the ides to harass him were conceptualized.
When I first saw the article I went "Yesh! They got another spammer!!" ... That is until I noted the similarities with this story. /.-readers, who just happen to surf by in their spare time, can spot a duplicate story quicker than an editor, who is doing it full time. :)
I seriously can't believe that most
Yeah, keep postning this story every and then as a reminder so the junk mail pressure on this guy does not ease off...
- El riesgo siempre vive - Private J. Vasquez
why is that story posted here NOW?
it was published 6 december.
or it should have been in the museum section, not news.
John Poindexter is also getting a taste of his own medicine. Check out this article. They've got his address and everything.
Maybe he should be called KingTaco, he once even managed to post a dupe after his own story, which was already a dupe!!!!
Taco, you're a legend. Do not ever change. Do not read a site called slashdot.org, that is.
Let us alll forgive CmdrTaco on this cheerfull Sunday morning, since it's obvious thatCMDR TACO NEEDS TO DRINK HIS #$%#$% COFFEE before posting stories!
LongTail SSH Brute Force analysis tool is here!
Sending mail back to spammers really isnt new, I dont see why it hasnt become mainstreme. I get about 10-20 spam e-mails every day and I just reply to them. If you consider it, lets say a spammer sends out 1000 e-mail messages from his hotmail account. Now lets assume each one of these is 3k, if everyone replies to his e-mails and sends his own message back hotmail will shut down the account! There is no need to sign them up for anything special, just reply to their e-mails! So what if some of the are automated. I was getting spam from a company over a period of a year and kept replying to it every day. It turned out that there was a bot doining the mailing so my messages were never deleted, they just sat there. After 9 months I got an e-mail from them telling me to stop imediatly because their web-account had run out of space and their server suspended their account. Other people must have been doing this as well, or maybe my e-mails just built up over time. My point is this, always reply to ur spam mail, 3 or 4 times.
Let's blame Microsoft. I'm sure Bill Gates has something to do with this too...
If anyone is sued by Ralksky, get discovery! Get his spams and make them public so that 1000s of people can file lawsuits against him for spamming.
Fight Spammers!
if you are pissing me off doing something, and i do exactly the same thing to pay it to you back, why would that be "out of mind" ? ookay spammer, you spam me, and once i got tired of getting 150 spams a day; if i find your email addys be sure you will be subscribed to every spam newsletter i ever find!!
1) Get a spammer to publically complain about being sent unsolicited junk.
2) Wait for RIAA for get busted for music piracy then try to appeal on the grounds that this was just "fair use" of that music.
Well #2 might not happen but hell I'd have said that about #1 as well! After all it is almost xmas and if I wish hard enough it might just happen...
- Tony
But that might be because my sysadmin doesn't do DNS checks at the SMTP server... Especially mail with the From header set to a Hotmail address is often spoofed. Unfortunately, this address might exists and the owner can't help it. As for hotmail, spoofs are easy to filter out without actually parsing the Received headers. But if I feel like replying or sending abuse mail, I *always* parse the received headers.
I imagine the poor bastard who's email you posted is just some guy that you have some gripes with. Most readers will, I believe, ignore you, but if only 20% get in the trap, this guy's e-mail is toast.
If he's really a spammer, post some proof of it, non-anonymously.
Sigged!
Sign him up with every mailing list for porn magazines, and several Christoid magazines. Also pay a few bucks for an order of Jack Chick tracts (www.chick.com).
Better still, spoof his IP, and create accounts on known Al Qaeda supporter websites, so the next knock he gets on the door will be from the FBI. Imagine his glee when all his funds are snatched up as money tagged to support terrorism.
Just because you can mod me down, doesn't mean you're right. Shoes for industry!
Why re-post old news when there's new news available? Interesting new news, as a matter-of-fact. See:
http://www.freep.com/money/tech/mwend13_20021213.h tm
Suff That Matters, eh? Right.
Social justice is a beautiful thing. You know, I bet Fritz Hollings' mailbox isn't very heavy...
Bored with karma, be a fan/freak
Tracking a package to Santa
South Haven photojournalist David McCreery uses Federal Express a lot and is fascinated with the tracking feature on the FedEx Web site (www.federalexpress.com) that lets you watch as your package makes its way to its destination.
"I send FedEx packages every few weeks," he says. "Once, I sent a package to Bowling Green and watched it leave Michigan via Flint for Memphis, come back to Flint and then drive to Ohio."
So, this being the holiday season, he decided to FedEx a letter to Santa, wondering: "How far would a package to the North Pole go? How would it get there? Where would it end up? Who would sign for it?"
You can follow the progress of his letter on his personal Web site (www.davidm.net), where he posted his letter and the FedEx tracking number.
Read the results, linked from here, over here.
This story has been posted before, but it's a welcome reminder of how justice is one of the ideals of our country. :-)
Don't become a regular here, you will become retarded. -- Yoda the Retard
Very interesting and sure to be controversial study that suggests most /. editors don't read the papers they cite. This means that if one paper misreads a work the misreading propagates. It's a very interesting study and has big implications for geeks, in my opinion. /. has a good overview of the work. Given that most attention to work has been in sloppy work on the experimental side (poor methadology or outright fraud) this suggests a whole other problem. A lot of the ultimate problem is that many in /. are concerned more about publishing than in solving the issues they investigate. Ideally the point both in science and in academics in general is to understand the ideas. Yet those of you who've looked up footnotes realize that actually engaging the ideas of other editors typically falls by the wayside. Often footnotes are there simply because references are needed. Engaging others works is secondary. I've always thought that the hard geeks were more immune to that effect than the humanities. I guess not."
Considering that /. listed the lawyer's address as well, what is happening to the lawyer and the law firm?
www.eFax.com are spammers
Yeah. I agree. Perhaps we could come up with some sort of identification network where we could try and pin point spammers, get their addresses, and then send them tons and tons of letters.
Hell we could even sign them up for magazines and catalogs. Then maybe they would understand how much pain they bring us.
--If only there was a license required to use a computer.
And it was interesting 9 days ago, too... after we started it. Here... on Slashdot... you know Slashdot?
Congrats on your marriage. Now, could you get caught up on previous posts before putting anything else up?
- I am made of meat.
PRinting up pages of mailing labels and putting then on every postage paid return to sender for subscription postcard would speed this up. Vary the name slightly every too weeks to make sure he gets lotsa duplicates. Hypothetiaclly, of course.
Ali aka oGALAXYo, will you let it go already ? Stop sucking so badly.
Click here and click ALL THE ADVERTS! Its CPC, so they LOSE REAL MONEY every time you click! If every one on slashdot did it! They would be in ruins!
About a year ago a certain Finnish TV channel did the same in an effort to track down Osama bin Laden. The poor postman is probably still out there in Afganistan, trying to catch the bastard.
"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them." -- George H. W. Bush
I wouldnt mind, but not only has it been covered TWICE by /. already, it was BECAUSE it was on /. that the article referenced was even written!!!!
ARRGGHHH!!!!
If you haven't already heard...
Taken from http://www.spamhaus.org
found here
Alan M. Ralsky
Telephone: 248-926-0688
Current email address: amr777@comcast.net
Address : 6747 MINNOW POND DR Property ID: 18-31-177-002
City/State/Zip: W BLOOMFIELD MI 48322-2663
Owner Name : RALSKY ALAN M Latitude : 42.5460
Taxpayer Addr.: 6747 MINNOW POND DR Longitude : 83.4284
City/State/zip: W BLOOMFIELD MI 48322-2663 Census Tract: 1566.00
Block Group : 9
City/Vill/Twn : WEST BLOOMFIELD
Subdivision : BLOOMFIELD PINES SUB NO 2
School Dist : WALLED LAKE CONSOLIDATED SCHOOLS
Prop Category : RESIDENTIAL
Land Use : SI SUBURBAN IMPROVED, TOWNSHIP ONLY
"In a Democracy, people get the kind of government they deserve." -Winston Churchill
With his money, he can hire someone to sort his mail
This man's ailment is clearly a lack of empathy.
Truly a common human deficiency.
He will not be missed when the agents of karma take him out.
Sorry to sound crass, but I really dislike spammers, trolls, and other annoyances.
Uhh...this link has nothing to do with spam at all. It's a very left-wing diatribe about 'Amerika' by a liberal SF tabloid. Please mod the parent down.
Besides, honestly... even if one's seen it before, doesn't seeing it a second time (spam king Ralsky getting his just desserts) bring a smile to one's face? I could wake up to a story like this every day. :)
Please forward questions, complaints, and replies to:
ALAN M RALSKY
6747 MINNOW POND DR,
WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Seller: BING CONSTRUCTION CO
Property Address: 6747 MINNOW POND DR, WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Sale Date: 8/28/2002
Recorded Date: 9/12/2002
Sale Price: $ 740,000
Did you forget to sign up Laura Betterly? Shame on you people. Send her all the Pron she can handle. Sign her up for free condoms...fun and funny too!
I mean, to send this guy all that junk mail... I thought my fellow slashdotters were more mature than that. I mean, nobody deserves to be harassed. Spam, be it junk snail OR e-mail, is annoying and resource consuming.
Besides what did this guy ever do to... er... oh.
"Everything you know is wrong. (And stupid.)"
Moderation Totals: Wrong=2, Stupid=3, Total=5.
Hmmm... it sounds like what we really need is
a mail transsender that strips the header, adds one of a number of randomly selected "please stop paying spammers" messages, and then mails the spam back to the spammer... or to the company that did it. The way to properly do this would be to only check out domain first, though.
Then just automatically forward all spam to the anti-spam-bot, and let it go from there. 4000 emails to symantec? No problem.
Correct Horse Battery Staple: 72 bits of entropy. Enter "Correct H" into google. When it generates the phrase, that's
Anybody got Taco's snail mail address? ;-)
Fried ice cream is a reality. - George Clinton
Please??
This was definitely already up here, reeeeeeedundant! :)
Give a hand, not a hand-out.
Let's make 'dup think' work for good, not evil...
Spammer of the week.
Ya' know - a puff piece profile. Who they are, what they do in their spare time, what their favorite color is, name address and phone number, shirt size...
I'm serious. Why not?
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
"They've signed me up for every advertising campaign and mailing list there is. These people are out of their minds. They're harassing me."
Aww... cry me a river, jackass. The only difference between this and what you're doing is that this is using paper. (pity there isn't a more environmental solution available). What makes you think that the rest of the world likes the crap that you're sending out, hmm?
So... um... if he actually succeeds with his harrassment lawsuit, where do I send the cheque for the harrassment counter-suit?
If you believe everything you read, you'd better not read. - Japanese proverb
This is much, much better. You don't have to give away your e-mail address, and you can be rest assured that they'll be getting email forever. Just make one post with their email address anywhere on Usenet. They'll be on spam lists for years, possibly even getting their own spam. Just one little post will set it off. A few spammers will pick it up, use it, sell it, re-sell it, etc.
This is great, but he will eventually straighten this out, hire someone to sort out his real mail, or learn to deal. This will not deter him. To make this guy REALLY miserable, we should send the junkmail to his neighbors addresses with his name on it! This would be especially effective using the porn junkmail!!!
I went to www.drudgereport.com shortly after reading this article on /. Turns out this is a very common way to aggravate your opposition. A news reporter ran a story about a government contractor involved with creating a database on all citizens that included name/phone number/address/relatives address and criminal history.
...from Ralsky, or an associate.
. 2mbit.com/egg/
http://www.vatnebok.no/eggplant/
mirrors:
http://home.broadpark.no/~tareiers/
http://www
Spammer makes millions submitting the same story to slashdot over and over again.
Call it...
a Lifestyles of the Kitsch and Shameless...?
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
Alan Ralsky, who may just be the world's biggest sender of internet spam, has been getting a taste of his own medicine. But now the tide may be turning, he reports.
"They've signed me up for every advertising campaign and mailing list there is." he says. "But, I will get even. I know who they are and I know what to do." he adds with a mischievous grin.
Reports have been coming in from all around the internet about the duplicates. First there was just one or two. Then there was ten. Yesterday there were a few hundred. And today, over twenty five thousand duplicate stories have been posted on the famous geek forum called Slashdot, where the campaign against Ralsky was hatched.
"It's not me." says Ralsky, interviewed outside his home, which is surrounded by hundreds of postal bags because no more room remains inside. He adds "I don't do story submissions. Hell, I didn't even know the place existed until a few weeks ago."
Another truck arrives, and 3 postmen deliver 25 more bags of mail. Over half the yard is covered in bags now.
"I know who these guys are now. My lawyers were looking into this, but I've never heard back from them, so I just had to take matters into my own hands." says Ralsky as small snicker shows up in his grin. "It's all about getting even, and I know what these people hate the most; it's duplicate stories." he goes on saying "In Soviet Russia we didn't have people doing things like this; mail bags would deliver you away."
Ask when all this might come to an end, Ralsky replied "You just wait until I try out all the mod points I managed to get."
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Hoo!
Damn, and I thought this was going to be a story about another dipsh!t getting his due.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Quote from original story, from Dec. 6:
... Ralsky is indeed annoyed. He says he's asked Bloomfield Hills attorney Robert Harrison to sue the anti-spammers.
:-)
"They've signed me up for every advertising campaign and mailing list there is," he told me. "These people are out of their minds. They're harassing me."
Quote from new story, Dec. 13:
Ralsky, who is one of the biggest senders of unsolicited bulk e-mail in the world, says anti-spammers have been harassing him for the past year. Lately, said Ralsky, anti-spammers started flooding him by snail mail with coupons, brochures and ads. "I just toss them right into the wastebasket," he said. "It doesn't bother me."
Gee, Alan, it bothered you enough a week ago to whine about it to a lawyer. What happened?
He's become desensitized to the junk mail in a week-- time to redouble our efforts! Someone sign him up for the NAMBLA newsletter. Better yet, send him child pornography and tip off the cops when it arrives.
~Philly
... I know this woman who was getting pretty pissed becasue of all the spam she got. So she started to reply, threatening to sue the companys in question. And it worked! Just make it soundlike you're a lawyer and know what you're talking about.
Thanks :) I am that poor bastard.
Yes, this is the new tactic of Ali Akcagaac, who has already
1) Writen to my boss to try to get me fired
2) Signs me up for mailing lists every weekend
3) Has signed me up to numerous spam sites
4) Started clicking on the "Email this article to a friend" links and filling my email address in.
Oh, and I star in one of his anti-gnome rant "essays"
All because I called him immature.
He seemed to miss the irony.
Hoohum, This is a new one though, put the /. effect to work so you don't have to.
Does this mean I have a stalker?
The repost makes me wonder: are there any legitimate updates to the story? Is he still recieving tons of s-mail? How's his legal action going? Has he had an insight, and sworn off spamming? Anyone? Anyone?
Don't listen to him. It might not have to do with spam, and you might not like the particular article he linked to, but the story is pretty relevant. It's about people on the internet, using the internet, to give people a taste of their own medecine. Whether spam, or "total information awareness", the stories are pretty similar.
That's not a taste of his own medicine.
A taste of his medicine would mean everyone keeping track of where he is going and what he is doing. e.g. everyday someone sticks gps modules on his cars and puts the info on a website. Someone pointing a webcam at his front door (not his bedroom window).
People calling up his home phone number and pestering him or his wife is something totally different. That's like telemarketing.
BTW the article sucks too. No imagination. Sure you don't like that person or what he's doing, but how does asking members of the public to call his home phone help?
The article also talks about California seceding. Where does CA get water from? They are going to have to build a lot more waterworks from north to south. Not sure if north CA has enough water to cover the south's needs as well as its own. I'm sure some states would be fine with CA leaving, since they'll have a better chance of getting their fair share of water. Mexico might even start seeing the Colorado _river_ again.
The US-ca could start charging California a lot more for electricity from the Hoover Dam too.
Then the US-ca could indulge in a bit of schadenfreude: watching everyone in California battle each other over the power and water issue: the usual "no nuclear power", "no fossil fuel plants", "not in my backyard" etc.
Silly article.
Yes, this is definitely stalking, and if you can collect enough evidence, do take legal action. I hope your boss is aware of the situation.
Good luck!
Sigged!
Funny... I thought Groundhog day wasn't until February...
I'll have something intelligent to add one of these days...
Mate, I'd just suggest gettign a new email addy and letting him know it's restraining-order time if he keeps it up.......
Conflict resolution..It's anifty thing.
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
How hard can it be to implement a link check in submissions? It can check for older articles, say a month or so, to see if that link was referenced in another article. (it should not check the entire article database because that would be expensive!)
Why are the editors so clueless? Do they read what they post? (i think they do since they deny so many articles)
Well they should have better memory than we do
Open Source Java Web Forum with LDAP authentication
Now that everyone knows who he is I get the feeling some crazed anti-spammer is going to go kill the poor guy. I mean, some of us really do hate spam that much, don't we?
void women (int money, time_t time);
There are usually 2 sides of the Blade. You can't blame the one and ignore the mistakes of the other. Go to http://www.gnomesupport.org/ and other places and look how Iain Holmes permanently attacks Ali. Every complaint or negative comment on certain lists (even those from various countries) are placed into the catgegory of Ali by Iain without proper proves. You give the right of the one to take any legal actions and take the other the right to do the same ? Go there and look yourself.
- Baltasar
Every complaint or negative comment that comes from the t-dialin.de IP range I claim is ali, simply because the grammar and content is usually the same.
I guess you're all interested in this, ok, more or less :) Yes, the Jaguar actually followed the spotter and he got threaten on his voice mailbox. Mirrors here.
He's made a few modifications to reflect the business that he runs from his house. (Hope he's got a business licence for that.) Enjoy!
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
I was looking up some information about Sir Walter Raleigh and I came across a new word!
'Ralsky'
SYLLABICATION:
ralsky
PRONUNCIATION:
ral - skee
ADJECTIVE: Inflected forms: ralskeer , ralskyest 1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse. 2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes. 3. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake. 4. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied. 5. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job. 6. Boasting to a newspaper writer ill- advisedly
ex.He ralskyed about his windfall and then the IRS confiscated his belongings Huh! Go figger...
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
We don't like direct marketers, but we should have the least amount of venom for the The Direct Marketers Association. They maintain legitimate opt-out lists for email, telephone, and junk mail. Not every "marketer" uese 'em, but those that do use the lists only use them to opt customers out.
If it reduces just some of the harassment, isn't it worth it?
Less junk mail
Fewer telemarketers
Less spam
And BTW: don't be lazy and use the $5 Internet option. Print out the page and pop it in the post for less than 10% of the cost.
Support a few technologists in Washington.
In Soviet Russia - people queue up for spam...
;)
And that's just to _look_ at the one and only can (it's not for sale after all).
as a verb...
Stupid dictionary.
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
Man, the Internet seems like it's becoming an ad zone. Banner ads aren't bad, but it's the popups that drive me crazy. I've tried a few programs to stop them but none of them seemed to work. Does anyone have any kickass foolproof method (other than pitching their computer out the window)?
- Health, Fitness, and Weight Loss News
Mac
That works.
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
Maybe that is the long sought general cure for spammers. Give their addresses to other spammers...
In the each spam mail there is some contact info. Well, the email headers may be falsified but the advertisements with a false contact info to a advertised product/ company are plain stupid.
When thousands of emails start coming after hiring "direct marketing company" for a campaign, even moron CEO will understand that it is not reasonable policy.
..the world trade towers have been hit by hyjacked planes. News at 11.
Question - How does one get Mr. Ralsky included on telemarketing lists. Home number and pager /cellphone ( if applicable) would surely be more annoying than junk mail - do to a /. increase in telephone calls.
Doesn't Californina and a few other states have anti-spam laws? Why not just give him a summons to small claims court? Waste his time and get $5,000 in the process.
Funny, he said he was pis*** from getting "junk mail" last week. This week he says it doesn't bother him as he just throws it out. Now which one is it?
...and want to have the satisfaction of signing Mr. Ralsky up for a few more mass mailers, here's his address which was posted the last time this story appeared.
Buyer: ALAN M RALSKY
Buyer Mailing Address:
6747 MINNOW POND DR, WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Seller: BING CONSTRUCTION CO
Property Address: 6747 MINNOW POND DR, WEST
BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Sale Date: 8/28/2002
Recorded Date: 9/12/2002
Sale Price: $ 740,000 (Full Amount)
I was always impressed by Steve Job's comment to the guy who was writing the Mac bootstrap code. The guy was complaining that it wasn't worth optimising the bootstrap loader any more because it was fast enough already. I don't Steve's exact words - but it was something like: We will sell 100 million of these machines - if each of those people boots their machine once a day for five years - then that's 15 billion reboots. If you can save just one second from the reboot time of the Mac then that's 480 YEARS saved.
So shaving one second of the boot time is like saving the lives of 50 people. What
could be a more noble activity than saving human lives like this.
So - applying that math to this spammer: If he sends out ten million spams a day and it takes 1 second to delete each one - and if this guy does that every day for five years - then that's morally equivelent to murdering 50 people.
Just because the damage he does to each individual is small, the cumulative damage is huge.
There is another story (probably apochryphal) about the guy writing the banking system software who changed the code to take the roundoff error (less than a half cent) from every interest calculation and direct it into his personal account. The story goes that he made tens of thousands of dollars a week. This story probably isn't true - but should such a person be considered any less a criminal because the money he stole was spread so thinly? Obviously not - he stole those thousands of dollars and that's that.
This spammer deprived the people of the world of 50 human lives - he should be considered a mass murderer and treated accordingly.
www.sjbaker.org
Hehe - I just ran a e-mail validation on that mail-adress:
[Contacting mx00.comcast.net [24.153.64.1]...]
[Connected]
220-mtain01 -- Server ESMTP ("Comcast Messaging System")
220 Unsolicted bulk mail prohibited; spammers will be prosecuted
HELO Network-Tools.com
250 mtain01 OK, [66.46.181.116].
VRFY amr777
252 2.5.0 Possible remote address not checked.
RSET
250 2.5.0 Ok.
EXPN amr777
550 5.7.2 EXPN command has been disabled.
RSET
250 2.5.0 Ok.
MAIL FROM:
250 2.5.0 Address Ok.
RCPT TO:
250 2.1.5 amr777@comcast.net OK.
QUIT
221 2.3.0 Bye received. Goodbye.
[Connection closed]
"If you keep an open mind people will throw a lot of garbage in it."
It says that even non-members can 'take advantage' of the opt-out email list.
So... any bets on how many of those non-members actually swipe the emails?
They say they only provide the companies with the lists so that they can remove them, but how exactly do they go about *checking*?
I knew it was a dupe when the link was the "already clicked" color.
/. wins the Award for Redundancy Award!
Once again,
For people involved with the TIA program....like the CEO's of the contracting companies.
Give the press something to chew on....
I had a thought. Rasky's activities may be in violation of Michigan Law.
g e= getObject&objName=mcl-750-411h&queryid=2419960&hig hlight=stalking
Michigan is one of the states that has ammended harassment/stalking laws to include electronic means of communication.
Anti-Spam lawyers might want to look at MCL 750.411h.
Rasky would definitely fall into the "Unconsented Contact" category.
Full text at:
http://www.michiganlegislature.org/mileg.asp?pa
Anonymous Cowards generally receive no replies because you're a coward and I'm a bitch
In particular note the bit about the fish and seaweed being mailed: "postal supervisor warned our mailing specialist that he could be fined for mail service abuse, even as a recipient, should this happen again."
I think just signing the guy up for mailing lists is missing out on the truly beautiful possibilities offered by the USPS.
I hope you're not pretending to be evil while secretly being good. That would be dishonest.
California should be able to buy a few decent desalinization plants. The only reason they don't is that it is cheaper to get the water elsewhere.
On a more serious note, however, I have just right now been struck by a great (original) idea, and have decided to write this, a spontaneous and completely original, post:
To add and update a bit to this:
... and takes you back home (... or to the "big house" ... remember, as soon as you stop moving on the public way, you are "loitering" and thus subject to arrest).
... and official language once again doesn't match unofficial intent.
(I modeled this prediction on the experience of a petroleum engineer and his wife (a teacher) when they moved to New Zealand for a year.
NZ required them to have $50K on hand just to get into the country.)
... it's going to arrive anyway, so you'll find out eventually.
Some guy came up with a plan to fill bags (100ft wide and 800ft long) with Northern CA river water (in excess) and tow them to Southern CA (where it's needed). Recently, this plan was shelved since one of the first steps (California-wise, at least) involved environmental-impact studies for the rivers the bags would be filled from. The studies would have cost $1 million per river.
I think this sums up CA's problem; progress is definitely dampened by such reluctance to move into the unknown, and the level of assurance desired is simply too expensive. That, and the fact that you shouldn't build cities in the desert or even an arid land.
To expand upon this article with personal opinion:
I think the USA has more than lost national identity and will Balkanize within a generation. But like the Congress thinking that declarations of war are "anarchronistic" (ref. Rep. Ron Paul), actual secession will also be an anachronism. The secession will be accomplished by other means. A mixture of official and unofficial methods will be used to make sure that Californians stay in, and non-Californians stay out. We kind of have that kind of thing now, scattered over America as local policy; if you are a Black man, try wandering around your town's wealthier sections and see how long it takes before a cop stops you
To dimly predict, it might occur that the CA legislature votes for an "assurance bond" for people moving into CA. To live there, you must present $10000 in cash or a bond good for same to local authorities. Of course, this doesn't say "you can't live in CA", but for people unable to come up with $10K, it does say that
Time will tell. That's the good part about the future
[also misbehaves on Kuro5hin as Peahippo]
Is ther so little real news that we have to see articles twice. This isn't the first time. The brittle star lens article ran about a year ago. We still haven't seen any new lenses from the research yet. Or maybe it was the BBC repeating them selves.
Delicious irony...
And news so nice, it's best posted twice!
Substitute the Internet for teleportation and if, instead of "Flash Crowds", he'd called them "Slash Crowds"... :^)
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
..what was the snail mail address of this spammer? please email chris@frognet.net with this information that i will not use in any way other than for strictly informational and educational puposes. thanx!
The slashddot editors are spamming us with the same article over and over again!!!
Disco Stu was talkin' to you.
http://www.freep.com/money/tech/mwend13_20021213.h tm Seems he has hired a hitman/bodyguard now.
If that prick or his attorney is reading this, I hope they realize the glee everyone shows about Ralsky's "distress" is going to be indicative of what they get if they take this to any jury.
This is bullshit. FedEx and UPS require an address to send your item to. You can't just write "santa clause" on it. You have to give them a name AND a destination.
Can you say "fake"?
And hope some of the cartons break!
This is just another attempt of you to make Ali look like a bad guy. You have no proves of what you are claiming. If you do have than instead of trolling in here show them. Prove it, otherwise shut up and stop placing real names all over. I have been reading some posts around and the only thing i can see coming out of your mind is Ali's name. This can only let me think that you are incredibly jalous and/or that he made you face a truth you do not like.
http://www.freep.com/money/tech/mwend13_20021213.h tm
And then post those pix too.
Since DARPA is trying to develop a scent indentifier gizmo, mail him a stinky sock: "Hey Poindexter SMELL THIS!"
I think this one should be a weekly reminder. 'Cause I wrote down the address last time, but by now I almost forgot about it!
Hey let's go further, let's give his phone number to telemarketers. He is a supposed millionaire, I am sure he would be delighted to receive wonderful business opportunities by phone.
I'm sure some slashdot reader knows someone who can insert him in some databases of people to "telemarket".
Oh wait, why not sell his information. After all, others do it every day otherwise I wouldn't receive those calls for a security for my house.
(Sorry if this post is redundant, I haven't read all the posts)
Men are born ignorant, not stupid; they are made stupid by education. Bertrand Russel
Check out this article [sfweekly.com]. They've got his address and everything.
Um, yeah. And I've got George W. Bush's address too. (1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington D.C.) It's called "being a public figure".
t-dailin.de has nearly as bad a reputation amongst network and mail admins as does wanadoodoo.fr. Not a big surprise your harassing luser lives in that net space.
What's a wonder to me is that the owners of those networks don't seem to care that their networks are becoming pariahs on the 'net. I've got both networks blocked for FTP access on all my Corp gateways due to repeated abuse, for example. And at least wanadoodoo blocked for FTP on my personal server.
Yes, this is a rerun. Would somebody tell me when he actually files the lawsuit?
This sig no verb.
Are the /. editors going to keep posting this same story every week?
12/6 Story: HOWTO: Annoy a Spammer
11/25 Story: Spam King Lives Large off Others' E-Mail Troubles
11/22 Story: Another Millionaire Spammer Story
11/13 Story: The Economics of Spam
Enough already.
.. snail mail with coupons, brochures and ads. "I just toss them right into the wastebasket," he said. "It doesn't bother me."
/sarcasm
That's interesting, weren't you complaining about this last time? I am betting this is not how you really feel, you are probably using this as PR to cover up that it did bug you, got a "I'm pissed off" reaction from you. I bet the person who chased Rich Clark and made the treats might be you(with something that changed his voice) or one of your spamming friends.
As for the just tossing them into a waste bin, I wonder if something important, for example a bill for his house, might get lost in all that clutter.
And we all know how with email we don't have to go through all the spam, we can just delete it all and will certainly not miss anything important.
Has anyone taken any photos of his /.ed mail box and put them online?
Mod this down as redundant, but I think the "editors" should hold themselves to the same standards they apply to everyone else.
I thought that was this spammer who would not do porn.
Ms. Betterly says she refuses to send e-mails about adult fare, because it "disgraces society."
A spammers private details such as address and even an aerial view of his neighbourhood were posted to slashdot. This enabled thousands of users around the world to subscribe him to every mailing list they knew of. In short, he got what he deserved.
Lots of people I know have been helping this guy out finding the right companies to invest in. It's really easy to get investor kits from companies through their online forms, so it's no wonder he has ordered so many kits to his house. I don't know what he's going to do with 80 kits dating back to 1980 from microsoft, but theres alot of other great companies out there who are eagar for investments from millionaires!
Especially when his lawyer told him "No way in hell I'm taking this case and get deluged the same way."
hes been getting tons of investor packs from me as well, through those convenient online forms that most companies have easy links to on their websites :-)
I think this sums up CA's problem; progress is definitely dampened by such reluctance to move into the unknown, and the level of assurance desired is simply too expensive. That, and the fact that you shouldn't build cities in the desert or even an arid land.
California's real problem is that it is so self-righteously "green". They've regulated themselves out of alternatives, which they displayed so well during the power outages (all the while claiming the problem was "deregulation").
Now, the only course left is for California to use its huge congressional contingent to pass legislation that keeps upstream states from taking water from the Colorado river. I'm an ex-Angelino, and I think the solution to California's problems is to nuke LA. It couldn't be any more unlivable than it is now.
I used to get Green Mountain Power, but California did something to the legal climate that made them fold up shop. How this is categorized as "self righteously green" I can't imagine.
C//
A friend if mine is beta testing a new tool based on the Spambayes Python tool kit, that does a lot more then just filtering spam. Apparently this tool has a means of tracking the path the spammers use, and following the money trail, locates them rather effectively. With very little effort on the part of the user, it collects the spam, builds up a database of "repeat offenders", and compiles a complete report, and builds up lists of ISP's they use, and follows the money trail.
We already know the FTC is getting 40,000 spam complaints a day, there is no way they can catch them all, but this tool puts together a report the FTC prefers, giving them all the info they need to go after them. I'm told by anonymous sources in the FTC they give these reports a much higher priority, because most of the work is done for them.
It also verifies the authenticity of opt out email addresses and web site links.
It's rumored it might possibly be shown at the anti-spam conference in Boston this Jan.
I'm not at liberty to say who they are (for fear of the slashdot effect), but I'm sure you'll hear about it soon enough.
It was written with the intent that if enough people provide the right kind of information for the prosicutors to catch the spammers, they would have an easier time to stop them.
The really cool thing is this new tracking system they use, as spammers are getting a lot more clever about hiding their tracks.
-sc
They talk about this somewhere in the FAQ that a simple link check often does work. So we get dupes even where the links are identical?
The sanity check could compare the language of the cited articles for overlap, or a preponderance of keywords. I know the slashdot software is under continuous development, who knows what is in the works.
But here, I think a pretty quick check for the spammer's name or the link would have done the trick. I don't know whether it was attempted, but if not that small time savings for the editor consumes many times the time of the posters.
I, personally LIKE getting more FIGHT BACK stories about spammers. Keeping the issue alive is important, and the fact that spam mail has now exceeded legit mail in overall volume.
In fact, it would be great to hear other people's stories on what they are doing to fight back. So Yes, keep the stories coming, but lets strive for some origionality and new stuff, and keep the FIGHT going.
What really puzzlies me, is why people are'nt actually contacting their local representitives about this issue. With web sites and the internet, it's getting a lot easier to bring these issues to them. People ARE having success. I guess people are not quite pissed off enough to get to that stage and wear out their delete button instead.
Every spam message I get, I sent to the FTC (uce@ftc.org) and am one of 40,000 others that do the same thing. My sources tell me they HAVE prosecuted more then 100 in the past month, handing down jail sentences and heavy fines.
People are also not aware they can file Computer Abuse charges against spammers, because there are really NO federal laws keeping spammers in check, but there ARE laws against computer abuse. You just have to find a "gung ho" prosecutor to take your case.
So, in conclusion - PLEASE LETS KEEP THE ISSUE alive, but also lets be creative and talk about what we CAN do to stop them, instead of bitching about it.
-o
Sorry - my bad...
uce@ftc.gov is the right address
If I understand your comment, you proved my point. California regulated a lot of companies out of business in the name of environmental goodness (green). California is loudly pro-environment but expects all the other states to provide it with power and water.
Oh, wait. That was a joke, wasn't it?
WE KILL SPAMMERS!
This leads to another of my predictions which I've advocated (yes, I mean "I support enthusiastically the idea of") for years: the water wars out in the American West.
There are just too many urban areas in too arid of climates. They draw so heavily on available water that rivers fail to reach the sea and aquifiers drain so much that the land sinks. Their appetite for water (and to be fair, that of farmers and industries) is simply too high. So they must use force in some respect to get more water.
I live near a Great Lake, and have seen more than enough attempts to get some of that water out West. If we let them, California alone would pipe out Lake Erie until the lake became a river.
As time goes on, the demand will just get worse, and there must be instances of crisis when a drought hits. The Californians will indeed bend the national Congress over their knee and spank them until they pass a law making Midwestern states dig the Great Lake pipeline. And then the shooting will start in ernest. (After all, there's no way to secure a pipeline; a little dynamite can always be brought into the argument, making CA's need and authorization a moot point.)
[also misbehaves on Kuro5hin as Peahippo]
Rent a storage locker somewhere with Ralkskeys info. Fill with illegal/toxic substances.
Send him child porn from overseas.
Example: Dear Mr Ralkskey,
We're sorry, but the movie Willy and his Horny Daddyis not currently available. We're very sorry for the inconveniance, so here are a couple of movies about little boys in golden showers, and also, about small girls with large dogs. We hope you enjoy them. We're in the process right now of making a new movie about Little Tommy, his 11 year old sister, 30 year old mother, and her 65 year old girlfriend. We'll inform you as soon it is ready. Once again, we're sorry for the inconveniance.
Sincerly,
Pete Peadophile
Manufacture (or steal from his trash) a bunch of junkmail addressed to him. Then mix it in with some other household trash and dump it along a highway or in a protected area like a watershed.
Don't think he'd getting enough attention? Get a line mans telephone and call every single carpenter, service, caterer, etc to his house at the SAME time. Order about 200 pizzas as well. Then call the news media, police and fire department at the last minute (this part from a pay phone). Should be funny as hell.
send letters in his name to every church and missionary service you can think of, confessing his various sins. (see above).
for more ideas, see books by George Hayduke. I don't think I have to tell you that carrying out most or all of this is highly illegal, and shouldn't be done. This post is just for humor and karma whoring purposes.
"[Connected]
:-)
220-mtain01 -- Server ESMTP ("Comcast Messaging System")
220 Unsolicted bulk mail prohibited; spammers will be prosecuted"
Oh the irony
Hijack his machine and send out Al-Qaeda spam. :-)
That'll get him shut down in a hurry.
West Bloomfield - Pizza Hut - Phone: 248-8516230
of well-known spammers? Like an entire list of snail-mail addresses that someone has harvested? Just curious.
Marklar: marklar
I wish I could forward the couple hundred pieces of spam I get a day to this guy. Spammers should have to pay to use the internet then take the money to help maintain the internet infrastructure. Truckers and other commericial vehicles have to pay extra fees for using the interstate system of highways to run their business. I don't see have spammers are any different using the internet for business.
I should be able to charge spammers for the percent of my bandwitdh they are using that I have to pay for. I hate junk snail mail, but at least they have to pay postage, that in long run helps pay for running the post office system.
To dimly predict, it might occur that the CA legislature votes for an "assurance bond" for people moving into CA. To live there, you must present $10000 in cash or a bond good for same to local authorities.
Article I, section 7, "[Congress shall have the power] To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes." If memory serves me, inconveniences in commerce was one of the reasons the United States was formed.
Balkanization may happen, but that law {w,sh}ould be struck down very quickly.
It's working fairly well @ the moment and has done for months.
Sure I need to use Outlook rather than OE, but the calendar I found useful anyhow.
(yes I know some of you think Outlook is evil, as well as Windows, but if a SMART user uses it, virus problems = nil and I'm not a linux man, sorry - sue me)
Problem with spamnet seems to be a few blocked thins which SHOULDN'T be blocked (dilbert mailout for one!)
Besides that though, it's nailing about 70% of my spam for me, which makes the job much easier - a damn good idea
www.cloudmark.com
Keep the pressure up. Somebody go here and make sure he gets a *real* treat.
:)
I tell you, some people really know how to shoot themselves in the foot. I'm glad he's getting snail-spammed.
Anybody in the area want to march back in front of his house carrying signs?
Meta-discussion here. Note the signatures of Gorge Bush and Oliver White displayed prominently at top right.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
How hard can it be to read the FAQ?
Send a bounce to all of the addresses listed, if it succeeds, add the email address to a list, poison a few random fake blogs with it, and auto-subscribe it to every web site with a form on it that you've found from spidering links in spam. Fight spam with spam, excellent idea! Just sending the bounce will make the bouncing address a spam target, so after a while you wouldn't even need user intervention, since most of the weird form field questions would have been answered and your addresses would really be out there. Your spam-harvesting spammer introduction agency would have hit critical mass. (-:
As a side issue, you could listen for worms and email viruses, sending the attacking machines a gratis copy of the Debian installer, with a suitably educated, er, bootloader. (-:
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
`here' is a unique, randomly-generated email link like this one: `Bill-Me-USD1000-and-Read-This.-1243363468-3707143 8@$COMPANY' and `payable' is a link to a page describing terms:
Never once had a second piece of spam to those addresses, and that domain's got the least spam of any in my possession. (-:
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
...were you representing the DA's office and asking them about Ralsky's drug charges or checking to see whether the lawyers were on drugs because they represent him?
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
Looks a bit like Bates Motel if u ask me.
http://2mbit.com/egg/gallery/
No, I don't think you get it. Green Mountain Power was an alternative clean power company. California's regulatory climate put the only accessible environmentally conscious power company available in southern california out of the direct power business. Wierd, eh?
C//
go popfile!
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
Actually, one large problem with the "liberalisation" California style was that they also regulated themselves out of a market based approach, basically regulating themselves out of the power saving alternative. Had the moon prices been allowed to be handed down to the consumers, the spirit of free enterprise could have taken hold to try to consume less electricity (consumers and industry alike).
Just my c2.
Hurricane Application Group, Dept of Meteorology Control, Ministry of Proactive Defense
What, and get slapped with a stalking charge if I'm caught once again? Nah, I have other operatives who can do that dirty work for me.
http://www.spambouncer.org/ - Procmail-based, also includes this feature. Also easy to rip out the bounce subroutine and integrated it with your own recipes if you wish, as I have.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
If his neighbors don't know who he is and what he does for a living, calmly educate them as to wheir the shit in their mailbox is coming from.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
It's obvious that he used your license plate to get your name and address from DMV records.
I suggest you do something similar - Find out if Ralsky owns a black Jaguar.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
Now if I could just manage the same with telemarketers, the universe would be in balance.
15 years ago in college 2 friends of mine sent in like 200 cards they collected from recruitment posters around their college campus. They requested information about graduate programs in all kinds of different stuff with a 3rd guy's name and address.
That dude's roommates called them up later and bitched that they got 750 pieces of mail in the first few weeks, and it didn't stop for months!!!
Somebody here has to be on a campus and have time to pick up some of those reply cards . . . .
well I can't say that I'm a defector, but I can suggest to all that as an ex-friend of his, he should have some, let's say, miscalculations on his income statements.. It would be just too obvious for me to call the IRS though, seeing as he could find out it was me.
I was thinking about how painstaking it was for me to send Al investor information packets from every publically traded company website I could think of. I was feeling rather hopeless when I realized I sent him a ton of kits to his old address. I sure hope he has mail temporarily forwarded to his new house, or whoever lives there now will be so kind as to tell the nice postal carrier to send it to the new address. So I got around to thinking further.. If all of this is what it takes to harass Al, it might be even better if it were an automated process, as a program that would submit the information in the background too all of those websites, which is normally a simple 1 page form. Some websites use slightly different input identifyers but at one point, every website I visited, I was able to use autocomplete to speed the whole thing up; copy & paste just wasn't fast enough. some other thoughts.. * piss on his front door * get a big ol' pile of manuer, and put it all up near the front door. might need a uhaul to do this, but being careful to remove any license plates and hiding any thing that could identify the vehicles (and it would be suggested to use ski masks or something to obscure your face) The flys, the smell, the attractiveness of his house. oh joy. BTW Alan's middle name is MURRAY, if anyone needs that.
ralsky went to www.msnld.com and signed up for long distance services. i hope he remembered to use his new phone number. and i hope hes not actually saving money with them.. hrm.
I HATE spam, i don't want to know. If i wanted porn i'd go looking for it if i wanted to gamble i go to the bookmakers. These low-life, good-4-nothing spamming slime should be BANNED from the internet. All they are doing is pissing us all off and cloging servere with unwanted crap, TAKE THE HINT SPAMMERS, STOP AND STOP NOW!!!!
Green Mountain Power in SoCal? When was this? I left in '91, when the handwriting was on the wall. I think I was current with the issues (especially concerning the SCAQMD), but I don't recall that name.
I don't know when they started providing. They ended during the Power Crisis. Think that was early 2001, maybe. Or late 2000. I had them for a year or two. Funny part was, I couldn't get our office "environmental nut" to get them. The power cost about the same, but it was _cleaner_. No go. Friggin' hypocrit.
C//
The primary cause of failure in electrical appliances is an expired
warranty. Often, you can get an appliance running again simply by changing
the warranty expiration date with a 15/64-inch felt-tipped marker.
-- Dave Barry, "The Taming of the Screw"
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