I'd consider dependency on word documents part of their infrastructure.
I'd consider desktops part of the infrastructure. servers won't be a problem. desktops will. desktops will also be the most difficult to change, and save them the most in the long run.
the best I can recommend is to start small. Let everyone know that you'll be making some changes. the fisrt step is openoffice/mozilla. the training for that will be relatively little. go one office at a time; first IT, then accounting, etc.
Use that as a yardstick. gauge the companies relative stupidity/oblivious user.
Mozilla will be easy. it might be as simple as sending a tech traininer to each dept's next meeting and saying "we're upgrading IE, it will look a little different, but it's almost the same.(use the modern skin- people tend to think of it as more of an 'upgraded' look)
next try openoffice. this will be your key. it will require retraining stupid people. This means you taking the time to document it and create a FAQ and a 'how do i...' list.
if they can make it this far with relatively little pain, then try converting a few company servers to linux(webservers are a good start.) then try the IT dept. measure how difficult it is for each person. figure out the basics of exactly how long it takes the fairly tech-saavy people to get it. then take it one office at a time.
I agree. something is fishy here. how many trojans? let's add up a list here, eh? tcp wrappers openssh bitchx sendmail util-linux it seems this seems a little more relavent now. can anyone else add to this list?
We seriously need to start looking at the way things are done. yes I am a paranoid lunatic, but we definitely have a traitor in our midst.
When we find out who is doing this, we need to severly punish them as a community. publish their names once their found guilty. blacklist them from other opensource projects. we need to do something. I only hope that this is just crazed individuals and not a case of industrial espionage...not that we have big, mean, law-breaking enemies, right?
actually, you should consider this book a primer or an intro for the unleashed series. they're not as dry as some of the orielly series.
I personally love the 24 hour series. I decide, "I wanna learn something new," and go randomly pick out a 24 hour book. I can get through it quickly and decide if I want to spend my time on the actual subject... if so I go get an Unleashed, 31 days or Bible. The 10 minutes series are also handy references the the memory impaired. Just looking around my room I see (24 hours) Html and xml asp java 2 unix linux perl
That only makes up a small percentage of the books I have(~40) however, it does make it easier to pick out the stinkers technology-wise(like asp).
Only 3 out of the 24 links were related to slashdot, altho slashdot did report most of them.
Most of the links were from respectable sites(as respectable as internet news sites go.) I actually went to the trouble of trying to track down legitimate sources, however some(like the anti-switch campaign) were removed, as well as the google cache. I wrote that to help remind people of the things Microsoft has done. People have a bad habit of forgetting things like this.
I tried to to hold back most of the bias, but that's impossible when talking about a subject like that. Aside from the obvious grammar and spelling mistakes, please, point out any inaccuracies in what I wrote. Show me where I was wrong.
and as for the "same drivel" that's on slashdot every day... don't come back. If you don't like it, please, I beg of you, either go away and don't come back or get an account so we can permanently mod you down. your not irritating or annoying, your just sad. If your sole source of enjoyment is trolling on a web forum, well.... you need to seriously evaluate your life.
Your right. I'm not proud of it, but I still wanted to play. I had the os already. Damage was done. I don't use it except to play that one game, and that's mainly because my girlfriend is addicted to it as well. yes, I am a hypicrite. however, the only reason I bought it was to support bioware. I figure since I have it I might as well enjoy it.
As for my article, people have replied saying saying I'm stupid, I'm a hypocrite, no one will listen because of my spelling errors- but guess what? I wrote that in one stint, and haven't had a chance to proof read it. I wasn't even planning on publishing it or making it available on my website... but guess what? I did. I saw the article, and I said "what the hell" and put it up knowing that it would get torn apart. But I don't care. I've gotten several responses to it, and I still haven't even looked at it to change it. I'll fix it when I get time.
As for my sig- I was planning on changing it when I got around to it later today(I've had that sig for around 6 months I think), but every time someone complains(your the second person to do so) I keep it for another month. Why? I don't know.
Well, the actual linux client was supposed to be released with the windows client but that never happened. I bought the game to support the company's decision to support linux. I've also wrote them several time telling them this. Since it wil hopefully be done soon, I'll be able to reconvert that partition back to linux. If it makes you feel better, I was off of microsoft for about 6 months before I bought this game. I wasn't too happy that it's taking this long.
I let people KNOW that I'm embarrassed I have it, and that I plan on changing it as soon as the client is released. if the client isn't released soon, you can bet it will be the last bioware game I buy for a loong time.
I actually just finished an article on my website about why I will not support microsoft by purchasing or stealing copies of their software. I stand strongly behind my morals. I don't give a serial killer a 4th chance to prove himself reformed.
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool my twice, shame on me."
Please, read what I wrote and tell me if you would still support Microsoft.
and I apologize for any spelling errors. I haven't had a chance to proofread yet.
because they can't waste their precious time doing a little research
they are a user. you are a programmer. it's your code. They have no obligation to spend any more time on it than they feel like(conversely, you don't have to spend time on them either).
You must remember, they're doing you a favor by reporting a problem with your code. keep that in mind.
don't alienate them by telling them they have to fill out a 4 page questionaire and search a huge database for related bugs. For some people that's just more time than they want to spend.
I understand what your saying, but most bug reporters are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. If they are treated like shit because they are new to bug reports and do something wrong, you can bet that'll be the last they fill out.
then ask yourself this- can you see your grandmother filling out a bug report? imagine it from her shoes if you want real insight.
I group "paper mcse"'s with/as script kiddies. They're an annoyance, but not so much a threat as the one's who've devoted their lives to it. I'm worried about the one's who've spent their lives doing one thing, and now that it's going away have little left to do. *shrug*
is that so? "Apache 22859123 63.51%" "Microsoft 9139785 25.39%"
according to your logic, apache should have... 3x the number of worms and viruses.... oh that's right, apache also runs on microsoft operating systems, unlike IIS, so that should increase it's vunerability even more.
I'm not here to start a war, and I could have easily ignored you until you were "-1 flamebait"'ed into nonexistince.
my point was a companion to the one you slopped out- obviously there's gonna be your general nutjobs and script kiddies making viruses, but they're not the ones I'm worried about. I'm worried about the industrial espionage level stuff.
Don't think it'll happen? don't think the companies will stoop that low? Ask all those dead voters that sent letters of support to the justice department in the "right to innovate" campaign......come to the dark side... you know you want to:)
As much as I hate saying this, I fear it's going to get a lot worse. As/If Linux gains popularity on all systems, including desktops, you can expect there are going to be a lot of disgruntled windows people out there who will become unemployed because they can't grow with technology. I'm expecting to see a lot of linux software start getting messed with and drastic increase of linux trojans and viruses.
don't believe me? Look at how much software has been backdoored lately- bitchx, ssh, and sendmail. That's a BIG FUCKING DEAL. As we continue, expect the crosshairs to be levelled towards us. There's gonna be a conspiracy. I'm not making any accusations, but keep in mind that the opensource movement is putting pressure on a group of companies that aren't exactly known for their ethical behavior.
of course I know I'm probably just a paranoid nut, but hey, that's a good thing to be in our field.....and this is one of the few times where my sig doesn't apply.
The parent post made me think of something. I'm a geek type with a little(very little) experience programming, and I'm competent with linux... what/how exactly could I help beta test a kernel? what does it entail? I'm guessing it's more than just compiling it on my system and going "ok, it worked!" Perhaps someone can give me some pointers so "people like me" can help too.
it's really great when they tell you it while holding an ibook:)
but now on to the topic- BeOS was my first alternate OS. I went from 98 to BeOS 4.52 it rocked. the only problem it had was with my video card, so I had to keep switching in an older one to get it to work. That was also the reason I finally quit using it. If you want to know more about the BeOS, I'd highly recommend reading the BeOS Bible. It was a very well written book for someone who(at the time) didn't know much aobut computers.
same thing here, I taste and hear colors. nothing like being half asleep in a meijers parking lot with your girlfriend, and saying, "that van looks like it tastes good," pointing at a bright red van.
boy did I get a weird look.
oh well. btw, npr did a couple of stories on this a few years back, that's when I found out that's what I had. try checking their archives to find the story.
refines as in not having OTHER stuff added to it. say, throwing it that week-old cake, + a bunch of other chemicals. that would just take the fun outta it.
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I'd consider dependency on word documents part of their infrastructure.
I'd consider desktops part of the infrastructure.
servers won't be a problem. desktops will.
desktops will also be the most difficult to change, and save them the most in the long run.
the best I can recommend is to start small. Let everyone know that you'll be making some changes. the fisrt step is openoffice/mozilla.
the training for that will be relatively little. go one office at a time; first IT, then accounting, etc.
Use that as a yardstick. gauge the companies relative stupidity/oblivious user.
Mozilla will be easy. it might be as simple as sending a tech traininer to each dept's next meeting and saying "we're upgrading IE, it will look a little different, but it's almost the same.(use the modern skin- people tend to think of it as more of an 'upgraded' look)
next try openoffice. this will be your key. it will require retraining stupid people. This means you taking the time to document it and create a FAQ and a 'how do i...' list.
if they can make it this far with relatively little pain, then try converting a few company servers to linux(webservers are a good start.) then try the IT dept. measure how difficult it is for each person. figure out the basics of exactly how long it takes the fairly tech-saavy people to get it. then take it one office at a time.
start small. baby steps.
ok, lemme think of this...radiation.....
"why do they call it a LAPtop?"
no thanks, I don't like nuclear balls.
I agree. something is fishy here. how many trojans?
let's add up a list here, eh?
tcp wrappers
openssh
bitchx
sendmail
util-linux
it seems this seems a little more relavent now.
can anyone else add to this list?
We seriously need to start looking at the way things are done. yes I am a paranoid lunatic, but we definitely have a traitor in our midst.
When we find out who is doing this, we need to severly punish them as a community. publish their names once their found guilty. blacklist them from other opensource projects. we need to do something.
I only hope that this is just crazed individuals and not a case of industrial espionage...not that we have big, mean, law-breaking enemies, right?
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guess what? most filtering agents would now ban this slashdot page.
filters just don't work that well. I've seen a few spam blockers, but I wouldn't bet my life on them.
I've had 3 10gigs, a couple of 5 gigs, a 6 gig a 2 gig and a 20 gig all RMA'd back to WD.
don't make blanket statements. wd is all I buy, and they're not immune either.
actually, you should consider this book a primer or an intro for the unleashed series. they're not as dry as some of the orielly series.
I personally love the 24 hour series. I decide, "I wanna learn something new," and go randomly pick out a 24 hour book. I can get through it quickly and decide if I want to spend my time on the actual subject... if so I go get an Unleashed, 31 days or Bible. The 10 minutes series are also handy references the the memory impaired.
Just looking around my room I see
(24 hours)
Html and xml
asp
java 2
unix
linux
perl
That only makes up a small percentage of the books I have(~40)
however, it does make it easier to pick out the stinkers technology-wise(like asp).
I can only think of two good uses for shockwave or flash....
joe cartoon and Killfrog
that's ok, I have a beowulf cluster...
now THAT's multithreading!
hey, be nice to Michael, his job is hard enough...
your forgetting the grandaddy to all of this... the JETSONS!
Only 3 out of the 24 links were related to slashdot, altho slashdot did report most of them.
Most of the links were from respectable sites(as respectable as internet news sites go.) I actually went to the trouble of trying to track down legitimate sources, however some(like the anti-switch campaign) were removed, as well as the google cache. I wrote that to help remind people of the things Microsoft has done. People have a bad habit of forgetting things like this.
I tried to to hold back most of the bias, but that's impossible when talking about a subject like that. Aside from the obvious grammar and spelling mistakes, please, point out any inaccuracies in what I wrote. Show me where I was wrong.
and as for the "same drivel" that's on slashdot every day... don't come back. If you don't like it, please, I beg of you, either go away and don't come back or get an account so we can permanently mod you down. your not irritating or annoying, your just sad. If your sole source of enjoyment is trolling on a web forum, well.... you need to seriously evaluate your life.
Your right. I'm not proud of it, but I still wanted to play. I had the os already. Damage was done. I don't use it except to play that one game, and that's mainly because my girlfriend is addicted to it as well. yes, I am a hypicrite. however, the only reason I bought it was to support bioware. I figure since I have it I might as well enjoy it.
As for my article, people have replied saying saying I'm stupid, I'm a hypocrite, no one will listen because of my spelling errors- but guess what? I wrote that in one stint, and haven't had a chance to proof read it. I wasn't even planning on publishing it or making it available on my website... but guess what? I did. I saw the article, and I said "what the hell" and put it up knowing that it would get torn apart. But I don't care. I've gotten several responses to it, and I still haven't even looked at it to change it. I'll fix it when I get time.
As for my sig- I was planning on changing it when I got around to it later today(I've had that sig for around 6 months I think), but every time someone complains(your the second person to do so) I keep it for another month. Why? I don't know.
Well, the actual linux client was supposed to be released with the windows client but that never happened. I bought the game to support the company's decision to support linux. I've also wrote them several time telling them this.
Since it wil hopefully be done soon, I'll be able to reconvert that partition back to linux. If it makes you feel better, I was off of microsoft for about 6 months before I bought this game. I wasn't too happy that it's taking this long.
I let people KNOW that I'm embarrassed I have it, and that I plan on changing it as soon as the client is released. if the client isn't released soon, you can bet it will be the last bioware game I buy for a loong time.
so it would block wordperfect, openoffice, staroffice, mozilla, and opera as well as AIM, icq, yahoo messenger and trillian?
I actually just finished an article on my website about why I will not support microsoft by purchasing or stealing copies of their software. I stand strongly behind my morals. I don't give a serial killer a 4th chance to prove himself reformed.
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool my twice, shame on me."
Please, read what I wrote and tell me if you would still support Microsoft.
and I apologize for any spelling errors. I haven't had a chance to proofread yet.
because they can't waste their precious time doing a little research
they are a user. you are a programmer. it's your code. They have no obligation to spend any more time on it than they feel like(conversely, you don't have to spend time on them either).
You must remember, they're doing you a favor by reporting a problem with your code. keep that in mind.
don't alienate them by telling them they have to fill out a 4 page questionaire and search a huge database for related bugs. For some people that's just more time than they want to spend.
I understand what your saying, but most bug reporters are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. If they are treated like shit because they are new to bug reports and do something wrong, you can bet that'll be the last they fill out.
then ask yourself this- can you see your grandmother filling out a bug report? imagine it from her shoes if you want real insight.
I group "paper mcse"'s with/as script kiddies. They're an annoyance, but not so much a threat as the one's who've devoted their lives to it.
I'm worried about the one's who've spent their lives doing one thing, and now that it's going away have little left to do.
*shrug*
is that so?
...come to the dark side... you know you want to:)
"Apache 22859123 63.51%"
"Microsoft 9139785 25.39%"
according to your logic, apache should have... 3x the number of worms and viruses.... oh that's right, apache also runs on microsoft operating systems, unlike IIS, so that should increase it's vunerability even more.
I'm not here to start a war, and I could have easily ignored you until you were "-1 flamebait"'ed into nonexistince.
my point was a companion to the one you slopped out- obviously there's gonna be your general nutjobs and script kiddies making viruses, but they're not the ones I'm worried about. I'm worried about the industrial espionage level stuff.
Don't think it'll happen? don't think the companies will stoop that low? Ask all those dead voters that sent letters of support to the justice department in the "right to innovate" campaign...
This is relatively tame.
...and this is one of the few times where my sig doesn't apply.
As much as I hate saying this, I fear it's going to get a lot worse. As/If Linux gains popularity on all systems, including desktops, you can expect there are going to be a lot of disgruntled windows people out there who will become unemployed because they can't grow with technology. I'm expecting to see a lot of linux software start getting messed with and drastic increase of linux trojans and viruses.
don't believe me?
Look at how much software has been backdoored lately- bitchx, ssh, and sendmail. That's a BIG FUCKING DEAL. As we continue, expect the crosshairs to be levelled towards us. There's gonna be a conspiracy. I'm not making any accusations, but keep in mind that the opensource movement is putting pressure on a group of companies that aren't exactly known for their ethical behavior.
of course I know I'm probably just a paranoid nut, but hey, that's a good thing to be in our field..
The parent post made me think of something.
I'm a geek type with a little(very little) experience programming, and I'm competent with linux... what/how exactly could I help beta test a kernel? what does it entail? I'm guessing it's more than just compiling it on my system and going "ok, it worked!" Perhaps someone can give me some pointers so "people like me" can help too.
probably the same one that makes ballmer do his monkey dance.
it's really great when they tell you it while holding an ibook:)
but now on to the topic- BeOS was my first alternate OS. I went from 98 to BeOS 4.52
it rocked. the only problem it had was with my video card, so I had to keep switching in an older one to get it to work. That was also the reason I finally quit using it. If you want to know more about the BeOS, I'd highly recommend reading the BeOS Bible. It was a very well written book for someone who(at the time) didn't know much aobut computers.
same thing here, I taste and hear colors.
nothing like being half asleep in a meijers parking lot with your girlfriend, and saying, "that van looks like it tastes good," pointing at a bright red van.
boy did I get a weird look.
oh well. btw, npr did a couple of stories on this a few years back, that's when I found out that's what I had. try checking their archives to find the story.
refines as in not having OTHER stuff added to it.
say, throwing it that week-old cake, + a bunch of other chemicals.
that would just take the fun outta it.