"Subject to sections 107 through 121, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following:
(1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;...
(3) to distribute copies or phonorecords of the copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;"
Unless you want to present a crack-assed defense that uploading music is neither distributing it or copying it, then you have no argument.
Well, I agree on the first point. Stealing from the mafia is wrong. Stealing from Al-Qaeda is wrong. Stealing from Saddam's palace is wrong. (Unless of course you're getting back something they stole form you, but that isn't stealing...)
However, I disagree with the secand point you bring up, and I don't think the issue is black and white as you say. Simply stealing for your own pleasure is wrong, but ceases to be in other circumstances (such as "stealing for survival" as you put it). For instance, there's a psych test that measures moral development based on the following situation:
Bill [I'm maknig these names up] has a wife who has terminal cancer. The only cure is a $2000 bottle of medicine that a local store owner has. Despite putting in tons of effort, he is only able to raise $1000 (ok, a bit unlikely, so scale up the price and abount raised if you prefer). So he breaks in and steals the medicine. Is he in the clear, and why?
I think that he is, at least as long as he left the $1000 he had behind, and especially if he later paid the remaining half. So I don't think it's black and white.
(Note that I brought up the example as only one of where I think it would be okay to steal. The yes/no part of the answer has no effect on the score you get with the actual test; it's your reasing why that matters.)
Yes, I have. Specifically, it is violating the law while being fully aware and accepting of the consequences of violating it. The civil rights marchers didn't complain about the enforcement of the laws as we are doing here... MLK fully expected to be put into jail.
In short, downloading music then complaining when you're sued for it is NOT civil disobediance.
Given that many people on/. can't even agree on the meaning of the contents of the report, I think that's a bit of a stretch to say that Apple expected their customers to understand the report.
...because it's an undefined operation. Hence the set of classic proofs (of which this is an example):
let a = b Then: a - b - 2 = a - b - 2 (reflexive prop.) a(a-b-2) = b(a-b-2) a^2 - ab - 2a = ab - b^2 - 2b a^2 - ab = ab - b^2 - 2b + 2a a^2 - ab = ab + 2a - b^2 - 2b a(a - b) = a(b + 2) - b(b + 2) a(a - b) = (a - b)(b + 2) a = b + 2 b = b + 2 0 = 2
The step to get to a=b+2 is wrong because b-a=0 since a=b.
Think about it... if a number over zero *truely* equaled every rational number that exists, then by the transitive property every rational number would be equal to every other rational number which would kind of mane it difficult for math teachers who would no longer be able to say that 2+2!=5 since 4 = 5.
Same deal here. The computer we built when the Athlon 500 was near top-of-the-line is still the family computer, and it works just peachy. What's been replaced:
-a 40 gig hard drive was added, then removed for my personal computer -an internal CD-RW after swapping the printer and parallel-part based CD-RW we had* cracked the solder connecting the part to the mobo and it conked out -a USB to parallel port adaptor for the printer, also to fix the above problem -processor fans
To the best of my knowledge, that's it. Most of the components were bought new, but the sound card (AWE64) came from the previous computer, which got it when I bought it off a friend.
*Yes, I had a parallel port CD-RW. Such is the price of early adoption; I remember when $1 for a CD-R was a good price, so when a pack of 10 was $30 with a $20 rebate, we got 3 boxes.
No it doesn't... It comes with a default graphics pack. Of course, it still plays exactly like War2 and looks almost as close. I'm surprised this didn't happen before.
No kidding. I just ran some informal experiments, and from when I hit enter after entering "msn.com" it was 7 seconds before the Mozilla logo stoped to indicate that the site was fully loaded. Google leaded in less than 1. Search.msn.com took 4 sec. (A repeat in IE to test against possible caching got times of 11 vs. 3 1/2 sec. search.msn.com time wasn't timed before it was cached at which point it loaded essentially instantaneously, as did Google.)
This is true. The first couple hybrids were the only cars I've seen that get better milage around the city than on the highway. (Not that I follow cars...)
>>you are then steeling the paper not the content.
That's not the main problem because, as someone else pointed out, the actual printing costs are pretty cheap. The problem is that if you take a book from a bookstore, you are also preventing the store from selling said book.
I kinda suspect that Weta will start doing work for other movies. ILM probably still has the most rendering capability of any sfx house, and I kinda doubt that it goes to waste.
>>I sorry to say I can no longer play with it, I no longer have DOS
I've kept a copy of QBasic on all my computers because I still use it off an on if there's something I need to calculate quickly and I think it'll do the trick. (Actually, I may have found a replacement for that type of problem with ML, though certainly not yet as I have yet to get used to the functionalness of ML, but maybe next computer I won't have to transfor QBasic with everything else...)
I agree. Fellowship was almost perfect, with only very minor changes (the merging or a couple characters anh a couple character swaps). TTT was less accurate, but it was still quite close to what it covered. Faramir bringing Frodo back to Osgolath before releasing him was the biggest offense, and that's a minor change plotwise. It disrupts Faramir's character a bit, but it sounds like the extended edition will help fix that.
>>Ok ok, so I understand that some of you haven't read the books and believe that the additional scenes in FotR were trivial.
I take the opposite opinion... I hadn't read the books as of my viewing of the Fellowship extended version, and many of the extra scenes I felt did wonders to the understandability or the story.
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Both are illegal. See the USC Title 17, Sec. 106:
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"Subject to sections 107 through 121, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following:
(1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;
(3) to distribute copies or phonorecords of the copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;"
Unless you want to present a crack-assed defense that uploading music is neither distributing it or copying it, then you have no argument.
Well, I agree on the first point. Stealing from the mafia is wrong. Stealing from Al-Qaeda is wrong. Stealing from Saddam's palace is wrong. (Unless of course you're getting back something they stole form you, but that isn't stealing...)
However, I disagree with the secand point you bring up, and I don't think the issue is black and white as you say. Simply stealing for your own pleasure is wrong, but ceases to be in other circumstances (such as "stealing for survival" as you put it). For instance, there's a psych test that measures moral development based on the following situation:
Bill [I'm maknig these names up] has a wife who has terminal cancer. The only cure is a $2000 bottle of medicine that a local store owner has. Despite putting in tons of effort, he is only able to raise $1000 (ok, a bit unlikely, so scale up the price and abount raised if you prefer). So he breaks in and steals the medicine. Is he in the clear, and why?
I think that he is, at least as long as he left the $1000 he had behind, and especially if he later paid the remaining half. So I don't think it's black and white.
(Note that I brought up the example as only one of where I think it would be okay to steal. The yes/no part of the answer has no effect on the score you get with the actual test; it's your reasing why that matters.)
Standard data CD-Rs are not taxed; only Audio CD-Rs are.
Yes, I know it is the extreme unpopular view, but I too feel it is the right one.
Yes, I have. Specifically, it is violating the law while being fully aware and accepting of the consequences of violating it. The civil rights marchers didn't complain about the enforcement of the laws as we are doing here... MLK fully expected to be put into jail.
In short, downloading music then complaining when you're sued for it is NOT civil disobediance.
Given that many people on /. can't even agree on the meaning of the contents of the report, I think that's a bit of a stretch to say that Apple expected their customers to understand the report.
...because it's an undefined operation. Hence the set of classic proofs (of which this is an example):
let a = b
Then:
a - b - 2 = a - b - 2 (reflexive prop.)
a(a-b-2) = b(a-b-2)
a^2 - ab - 2a = ab - b^2 - 2b
a^2 - ab = ab - b^2 - 2b + 2a
a^2 - ab = ab + 2a - b^2 - 2b
a(a - b) = a(b + 2) - b(b + 2)
a(a - b) = (a - b)(b + 2)
a = b + 2
b = b + 2
0 = 2
The step to get to a=b+2 is wrong because b-a=0 since a=b.
Think about it... if a number over zero *truely* equaled every rational number that exists, then by the transitive property every rational number would be equal to every other rational number which would kind of mane it difficult for math teachers who would no longer be able to say that 2+2!=5 since 4 = 5.
Same deal here. The computer we built when the Athlon 500 was near top-of-the-line is still the family computer, and it works just peachy. What's been replaced:
-a 40 gig hard drive was added, then removed for my personal computer
-an internal CD-RW after swapping the printer and parallel-part based CD-RW we had* cracked the solder connecting the part to the mobo and it conked out
-a USB to parallel port adaptor for the printer, also to fix the above problem
-processor fans
To the best of my knowledge, that's it. Most of the components were bought new, but the sound card (AWE64) came from the previous computer, which got it when I bought it off a friend.
*Yes, I had a parallel port CD-RW. Such is the price of early adoption; I remember when $1 for a CD-R was a good price, so when a pack of 10 was $30 with a $20 rebate, we got 3 boxes.
The fact that Fritz is not enhanced for multiple processors doesn't mean it's not multithreaded.
No it doesn't... It comes with a default graphics pack. Of course, it still plays exactly like War2 and looks almost as close. I'm surprised this didn't happen before.
registration != payment
I used my last mod point earlier today... anyone want to give this a troll for me?
Yeah, I remember that too... which is why I was wholly surprised that msn.com still loaded significantly faster in Mozilla.
No kidding. I just ran some informal experiments, and from when I hit enter after entering "msn.com" it was 7 seconds before the Mozilla logo stoped to indicate that the site was fully loaded. Google leaded in less than 1. Search.msn.com took 4 sec. (A repeat in IE to test against possible caching got times of 11 vs. 3 1/2 sec. search.msn.com time wasn't timed before it was cached at which point it loaded essentially instantaneously, as did Google.)
This is true. The first couple hybrids were the only cars I've seen that get better milage around the city than on the highway. (Not that I follow cars...)
Which begs the question, if I go to Canada and buy said electronics, what do I have to do to bring them back to the US (legally)?
>>you are then steeling the paper not the content.
That's not the main problem because, as someone else pointed out, the actual printing costs are pretty cheap. The problem is that if you take a book from a bookstore, you are also preventing the store from selling said book.
My guess is that they'd use nonpotable (impotable? not potable?) water.
Then grep the matches between Linux and SCO code it see if it's in BSD. If not, it's not from BSD.
I saw a picture of Bush kind of in midair above one of them lying on the ground...
>>it makes me think that The Return of the King will probably show very little, if any, of the scourging of the Shire
Apparently Jackson has stated Return will end with the weddings. A pity really...
I kinda suspect that Weta will start doing work for other movies. ILM probably still has the most rendering capability of any sfx house, and I kinda doubt that it goes to waste.
>>I sorry to say I can no longer play with it, I no longer have DOS
I've kept a copy of QBasic on all my computers because I still use it off an on if there's something I need to calculate quickly and I think it'll do the trick. (Actually, I may have found a replacement for that type of problem with ML, though certainly not yet as I have yet to get used to the functionalness of ML, but maybe next computer I won't have to transfor QBasic with everything else...)
I agree. Fellowship was almost perfect, with only very minor changes (the merging or a couple characters anh a couple character swaps). TTT was less accurate, but it was still quite close to what it covered. Faramir bringing Frodo back to Osgolath before releasing him was the biggest offense, and that's a minor change plotwise. It disrupts Faramir's character a bit, but it sounds like the extended edition will help fix that.
>>Ok ok, so I understand that some of you haven't read the books and believe that the additional scenes in FotR were trivial.
I take the opposite opinion... I hadn't read the books as of my viewing of the Fellowship extended version, and many of the extra scenes I felt did wonders to the understandability or the story.