I got this thing hooked up to my plant and it actually started singing:
Better wait a minute.
Ya better hold the phone.
Ya better mind your manners.
Better change your tone.
Don't you threaten me son.
You got a lot of gall.
We gonna do things my way.
Or we won't do things at all.
Ya don't know what you're messin' with.
You got no idea.
Ya don't know what you're lookin' at
When you're lookin' here.br
Ya don't know what you're up against,
No, no way, no how.
You don't know what you're messin' with,
But I'm gonna tell you now!
Get this straight!
I'm just a mean green mother from outer space
and I'm bad.
I'm just a mean green mother from outer space
and it looks like you been had.
I'm just a mean green mother from outer space,
So get off my back, 'n get out my face,
'Cause I'm mean and green
And I am bad.
This thing must be malfunctioning somehow... I wanted to talk to my roommate about it, but she's been missing for a couple of weeks.
I don't know about the second and the third, but the fourth one goes like this:
4. A robot must never place the long skinny ones horizontally, unless it leads to a long skinny vertical hole so 4 rows can be cleared at once the next time a long skinny one comes around.
That's EXACTLY what I thought. I mean, sometimes it's like a random guy gets killed and the case seems to be solved but one guy geta HUCNH that something is wrong. Therefore they have five professionals working around the clock FOR A WEEK, doing everything from dna- and blood tests, to simulating car crashes with REAL CARS and ordering pig fetuses to run comparative analysis on how fast body tissue decomposes in different circumstances. Wonder how much all that costs - and wether they have nothing else to do.
But of course the hunch turns out to be correct.:D
Are your parents able to GUESS the password? Are you telling me that there are so few words in the English language that a 7-year old know that her parents woud just guess it? How about "bicycle"? OF all the words she knows, when exactly would you guess THAT one? Or how about teaching her to type a word she didn't know beforehand? "windowsill"? Too long? "fork"?
How effective password-cracking parents are we talking about?
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
Hmm, wasn't there some international law against torture? And won't this new form of it be exactly as painful and devastating as the older ones? Shouldn't they, like, NOT be investigating this or at least not be letting us know about it?
Seriously, sometimes things happen for some weird cosmic coincidence that are so inherently and outrageously funny... It sort of makes life worth living it,
Think about: "Does it still sound good if you don't know the mathematics"? The piano (and most modern instruments) are tuned using an exponential function with base 2. Most people like music regardless of weather they know this or not. So, in this way the exponential is "musically interesting"... take it as "definition through examples" - I'll provide more of them if you want.
This is a very stretchable defintion and I am very fond of any kind of a mathematical experiment which might provide musical ideas. But at some point it becomes just math geeks jerking off. If that isn't clear, I can define "jerking off" for you if you want.
The AI guys are on their own.
Wouldn't a jazz musician who actually improvises more than he playes the melody to the song (which is common), be an "organic self-generative system" in this way? I'm surprised that Eno didn't talk about jazz at all. After all there are only a few "generative" rules like "staying in key" - if there is one - and "paying attention to the chord progression" - again, if there actually is one - in the making of a jazz solo. And live jazz is responsive to the audience, and is sensitive to whatever has happened to the person playing in his / her life and in recent days.
One notable difference is of course, that you can also have this happening in your living room with a computer system. It just surprises me that he didn't talk about jazz AT ALL. Isn't he supposed to know stuff about music or something?
But what's the point? Is it achivement in itself to make use of mathematics in music? I would think that the real justification for the whole thing was musical value, not mathematical. The whole idea should be that by bringing mathematics to music, you would be able to create music that sounds truly fascinating, but it sound from you that being able to use the mathematics at all is enough.
I am a little skeptic about bringing mathematics to music - sometimes it seems to be the end in itself, which it shouldn't be. But on the other hand, if the results are MUSICALLY interesting, that's another story. Like the mathematical construction of a truly bizarre polyrhythm. But that still doesn't go beyond simple modular arithmetic.
Some mathematical stuff in music just sounds superficial... like (actual) the idea of writing a piece which shifts the tempo with a ratio of pi : e. You might think it's cool, I don't know, but no one really cares if the ratio is pi : e or 1.2 or "just slightly faster". There is no intrinsic musical value in the idea. So... is it really worth it?
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I got this thing hooked up to my plant and it actually started singing:
Better wait a minute.
Ya better hold the phone.
Ya better mind your manners.
Better change your tone.
Don't you threaten me son.
You got a lot of gall.
We gonna do things my way.
Or we won't do things at all.
Ya don't know what you're messin' with.
You got no idea.
Ya don't know what you're lookin' at
When you're lookin' here.br Ya don't know what you're up against,
No, no way, no how.
You don't know what you're messin' with,
But I'm gonna tell you now!
Get this straight!
I'm just a mean green mother from outer space
and I'm bad.
I'm just a mean green mother from outer space
and it looks like you been had.
I'm just a mean green mother from outer space,
So get off my back, 'n get out my face,
'Cause I'm mean and green
And I am bad.
This thing must be malfunctioning somehow... I wanted to talk to my roommate about it, but she's been missing for a couple of weeks.
How is this funny? I'd have given it insightful or interesting! Throw the man a bone here (no pun intended, though)!
... it's just cool to be able to fly through walls and stuff.
I don't know about the second and the third, but the fourth one goes like this:
4. A robot must never place the long skinny ones horizontally, unless it leads to a long skinny vertical hole so 4 rows can be cleared at once the next time a long skinny one comes around.
That's EXACTLY what I thought. I mean, sometimes it's like a random guy gets killed and the case seems to be solved but one guy geta HUCNH that something is wrong. Therefore they have five professionals working around the clock FOR A WEEK, doing everything from dna- and blood tests, to simulating car crashes with REAL CARS and ordering pig fetuses to run comparative analysis on how fast body tissue decomposes in different circumstances. Wonder how much all that costs - and wether they have nothing else to do.
:D
But of course the hunch turns out to be correct.
Ok, hehe. I just thought the acronyms got a little too thick to navigate through, it was a little bit of a sarcastic outburst.
Mine read: "I have no idea what you just said", "how about actually writing..." uh, well I actually forgot the rest of it. But it's not important.
Are your parents able to GUESS the password? Are you telling me that there are so few words in the English language that a 7-year old know that her parents woud just guess it? How about "bicycle"? OF all the words she knows, when exactly would you guess THAT one? Or how about teaching her to type a word she didn't know beforehand? "windowsill"? Too long? "fork"?
How effective password-cracking parents are we talking about?
IHNIWYJS, HAAWTOIAW?
You mean he's not talking about amazon?
No, they don't. They have an o with dots above it instead. The Danish have the o with the line through it.
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
We should put warning stickers on hot women!
Hahaha! I actually agree with the one on the advertisements. :D
Hmm, wasn't there some international law against torture? And won't this new form of it be exactly as painful and devastating as the older ones? Shouldn't they, like, NOT be investigating this or at least not be letting us know about it?
Just asking...
Have you ever tried chewing tin-foil?
You'll be safe.
But lawyers can rotate too, I think. That is, if you pay them enough.
Don't forget the "Web sheriff"! :D
Seriously, sometimes things happen for some weird cosmic coincidence that are so inherently and outrageously funny... It sort of makes life worth living it,
*nitpick*
It's actually "money, money, money".
Well, all criticism aside... I am actually deeply intrigued. I've always liked the mathematics of music.
Come on now, be rational!
Ahhh, it's been done! Sorry, was a little too quick there.
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Think about: "Does it still sound good if you don't know the mathematics"? The piano (and most modern instruments) are tuned using an exponential function with base 2. Most people like music regardless of weather they know this or not. So, in this way the exponential is "musically interesting"... take it as "definition through examples" - I'll provide more of them if you want.
This is a very stretchable defintion and I am very fond of any kind of a mathematical experiment which might provide musical ideas. But at some point it becomes just math geeks jerking off. If that isn't clear, I can define "jerking off" for you if you want.
The AI guys are on their own.
Wouldn't a jazz musician who actually improvises more than he playes the melody to the song (which is common), be an "organic self-generative system" in this way? I'm surprised that Eno didn't talk about jazz at all. After all there are only a few "generative" rules like "staying in key" - if there is one - and "paying attention to the chord progression" - again, if there actually is one - in the making of a jazz solo. And live jazz is responsive to the audience, and is sensitive to whatever has happened to the person playing in his / her life and in recent days.
One notable difference is of course, that you can also have this happening in your living room with a computer system. It just surprises me that he didn't talk about jazz AT ALL. Isn't he supposed to know stuff about music or something?
But what's the point? Is it achivement in itself to make use of mathematics in music? I would think that the real justification for the whole thing was musical value, not mathematical. The whole idea should be that by bringing mathematics to music, you would be able to create music that sounds truly fascinating, but it sound from you that being able to use the mathematics at all is enough.
I am a little skeptic about bringing mathematics to music - sometimes it seems to be the end in itself, which it shouldn't be. But on the other hand, if the results are MUSICALLY interesting, that's another story. Like the mathematical construction of a truly bizarre polyrhythm. But that still doesn't go beyond simple modular arithmetic.
Some mathematical stuff in music just sounds superficial... like (actual) the idea of writing a piece which shifts the tempo with a ratio of pi : e. You might think it's cool, I don't know, but no one really cares if the ratio is pi : e or 1.2 or "just slightly faster". There is no intrinsic musical value in the idea. So... is it really worth it?