coal stops being profitable when you can't get somebody else to pay for the clean up and the health problems caused by the pollution. Said it before, say it again. If you can't externalize costs it's not economical.
and I mean that. My family got hit with two major illnesses in 2008 right when the entire US economy collapsed thanks to Bush jr deregulating the main street and Walstreet banks. So fuck off.
I vote. I work hard. I convince numskulls like you what's in your own interests (assuming your not a Russian shill). What I can't abide by is having to compete with slave labor. 97% of Indians make less than $3950/yr. That little gem of a statistic is brought to you by CNN and the recent brouhaha over their attempts to get the remaining 3% to pay some mother fucking taxes. I can't compete with that. I can't compete with a country that still calls people "untouchable" (yeah, I know they're all equal now. Tell that to black men in the American south while you're at it).
You can't compete with that either if you live in the states. The 1% are gonna eat you alive. Enjoy a slow, painful death you dipshit. My anger's placed right where it needs to be.
because that's the question that gets asked everytime we talk about free or cheap college anymore. 66% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck (e.g. don't have $400 to their name). That's a _lot_ of folks who can't afford it.
People don't skip college because it's a liberal elite conspiracy. They skip college for money. Unless you can get Americans to suck down the taxes (in the face of declining wages) that's not gonna change.
Here's another option. Ever wonder how people from 2nd world countries can afford out of state tuition? Companies are paying it for them so they can work 'em to death as interns while they're in 'school' as 'interns'. You bring guys and gals in their 20s who've already been trained here and they work for you for peanuts. The cost of education is less than you woulda paid an American.
Shut that scam down for a start. Shut the whole H1-B program down and make companies _train_ again. We've got other visa programs for the Geniuses. We don't need more code monkeys, and Americans can do math just fine if we don't abandon our public schools.
and I'll defend him. His comments were surprisingly low key. And we of the left wing ignore & dismiss him at our peril. As a member of the working class trying to get a kid through college and seeing 70-80% of tech workers here on H1-B visas I want this addressed. There's no easy way to do it without talking about where those workers are coming from. He didn't just say Asia, he said "South Asia". He means India. If you and others like you dismiss him as a bigot you'll get more nasty surprises at the ballot box as folks like me give up on liberal socialism that feels like lip service and turn to guys like Trump to protect our jobs. Again, nothing to do with racism, everything to do with money.
diversity doesn't work because people are people. We're not as different as we like to tell ourselves. The only difference is how hard you can work someone based on how desperate their upbringing was.
When we're talking H1-Bs coming here taking entry level or just above entry level code monkey jobs that companies used to train Americans to do. Every tech worker on this forum has lost at least $30k/yr to wage depression from the H1-B program. My life is worse than my parents and my kinds life will be worse than mine. She'll graduate into a $50/$60/k yr job with $30k debt. Fuck that.
It's not racism, it's protectionism. My attitude is this: Don't come to my Country and drive down wages and make my life shit. Go make your country not a hell hole.
but I'm mostly seeing code monkeys. Meanwhile companies don't train anymore. Ever. I've watched every company I know fire their training departments and slash funding to pay for certifications. Ten years ago an ex-coworker of mine got $10k in Salesforce training that he took on company time. Me today? Not so much.
We can send the H1-Bs back and train Americans in 6 months to do their jobs. We don't want to. Trump got into office on the promise of doing that. Bannon is making motions to do that.
those crazy high college costs. Turns out companies bring them over here and pay for schooling so they can have them work as "interns" (there are no quotes big enough for the preceding). Far from subsidizing my kid's education they're so profitable that they're squeezing her out. She'll need a 4.0 just to get into her year 3 classes. That's not grade inflation either. Kids are retaking classes they get Bs in to maintain that 4.0.
Either that or fund schools enough that you can finish them with a C average. But right now there's not enough space in the 300 level courses for Americans. Sorry, but send them back. Bernie & Hilary lost so that's the best I can hope for...
CNN isn't left. MSNBC isn't either. Rachel F'n Maddow doesn't make MSNBC left. When I start seeing front page editorials demanding stronger Unions and Single Payer Health Care I'll start calling them left.
Oh, you meant social issues, right? Gays marrying and such? That's nice and all. But it doesn't pay the bills. The media is left on social issues and hard right on economic issues. When you take even a cursory glance at who owns them the reasons become obvious. You can't run anything bigger than Mother Jones without getting bought out by some billionaire. If all else fails they'll do to you what they did to Gawker.
this is what happens when you put people in charge of gov't that don't believe gov't can do anything. Christ, it's like people don't even know what NASA and the Post Office are or the miracles they represent.
unless he breaks with what his VP Pence and Paul Ryan are saying they're going to do then they're going to put it back to what it was when I was a kid. Any break in coverage and you're screwed. States will have a high risk pool that's either underfunded or not funded. People will die with completely treatable illnesses.
Like I always say: You can do anything to anybody with these 5 simple little words: Who's gonna pay for it?
when he back pedaled on that. See here. Specifically this part:
But he, Vice President-elect Mike Pence and House Speaker Paul Ryan have provided some insights into how Republicans would handle the thorny issue of insuring the sick.
They would set up a two-track system: one for those who maintain continuous coverage and one for those who don't. And they would replace the subsidies with a tax credit or deduction to help people pay their premiums.
This is exactly how it was when I was a kid. Any gap in coverage and you're screwed. Tax subsidies are worthless to someone who's chronically ill. You've probably just lost your job. Best case you're on FMLA with no money coming in to pay for anything. Tax cuts don't help when there's no income to tax.
as long as you focus on their actual goal, which is buying up companies that could one day effectively compete. Microsoft is not, has not and never will be a technology company. Sun was. DEC was. Look where it got them.
is that they're too small to realize the cost savings from screwing their customers over in little ways. A 10 minute wait isn't worth it for them. Ditto Saving $100 bucks on some switches by buying the cheap stuff. Those little costs savings are huge for a mega corp. Your lousy customer service is some mid grade VP's summer home.
then bring it. Right now. As long as you don't let your local right wing party under fund it then it'll be fantastic. The here in Arizona we passed a law mandating service levels at our DMV and made sure the funding was enough and it's pretty fantastic. Short waits, knowledgeable staff. Now, you do have to watch out for folks with that "Starve the Beast" mentality who'll slash funding and then say "See, Gov't can't do anything right!". But if you do that you'll be fine.
Put another way, I've yet to meet a Canadian or Brit who makes under $300k/yr and would trade their Health care system for mine.
that the right has been doing these things non-stop for 8 years, longer if include the KKK which we sorta pretend isn't a thing because the Media has been intentionally ignoring them.
The left is going a bit overboard out of fear. Very, very legitimate fear. If you have friends with life threatening medical conditions and they're not very, very well off they are going to die soon. That's not idle speculation. Their medical care came from the ACA, which is being gutted. If you're under 55 they're coming for your Medicare too. You're going to die in your 60s of something completely preventable. This is all happening. If you're not rich and not scared you're not paying attention.
vs decades of ideological beliefs. Liberals yelling out "I wish somebody would plant Mike Pence & Trump in the ground" didn't really start until the election ended and the fear set in. Until then everybody just assumed they were relatively harmless baboons. A bit of hyperbole is to be expected in the face of what's coming (hope you're health, you're about to lose pre-existing condition coverage unless you're rich enough to pay for COBRA).
The alt-right here have been on a non-stop campaign of hate and fear since day one. They're terrorists, and should be treated as such. People seem to forget what the KKK was (probably because they weren't black and living in the American South)....
US is a little fuzzier. The laws are written to take intent into consideration. In other words, if you follow the letter of the law and violate the spirit you get nailed. It's banking, which hurts people that matter though, so take that as you will.
on one of the major news networks today. And it wasn't Fox or MSNBC. So yeah, things are getting pretty crazy. The media just keeps right on pouring gasoline on the fire so long as it sells news.
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coal stops being profitable when you can't get somebody else to pay for the clean up and the health problems caused by the pollution. Said it before, say it again. If you can't externalize costs it's not economical.
and I mean that. My family got hit with two major illnesses in 2008 right when the entire US economy collapsed thanks to Bush jr deregulating the main street and Walstreet banks. So fuck off.
I vote. I work hard. I convince numskulls like you what's in your own interests (assuming your not a Russian shill). What I can't abide by is having to compete with slave labor. 97% of Indians make less than $3950/yr. That little gem of a statistic is brought to you by CNN and the recent brouhaha over their attempts to get the remaining 3% to pay some mother fucking taxes. I can't compete with that. I can't compete with a country that still calls people "untouchable" (yeah, I know they're all equal now. Tell that to black men in the American south while you're at it).
You can't compete with that either if you live in the states. The 1% are gonna eat you alive. Enjoy a slow, painful death you dipshit. My anger's placed right where it needs to be.
It's environmental. Apple can't just dump poison into ground water in the States.
Adding another $300 wouldn't phase me.
because that's the question that gets asked everytime we talk about free or cheap college anymore. 66% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck (e.g. don't have $400 to their name). That's a _lot_ of folks who can't afford it.
People don't skip college because it's a liberal elite conspiracy. They skip college for money. Unless you can get Americans to suck down the taxes (in the face of declining wages) that's not gonna change.
Here's another option. Ever wonder how people from 2nd world countries can afford out of state tuition? Companies are paying it for them so they can work 'em to death as interns while they're in 'school' as 'interns'. You bring guys and gals in their 20s who've already been trained here and they work for you for peanuts. The cost of education is less than you woulda paid an American.
Shut that scam down for a start. Shut the whole H1-B program down and make companies _train_ again. We've got other visa programs for the Geniuses. We don't need more code monkeys, and Americans can do math just fine if we don't abandon our public schools.
and I'll defend him. His comments were surprisingly low key. And we of the left wing ignore & dismiss him at our peril. As a member of the working class trying to get a kid through college and seeing 70-80% of tech workers here on H1-B visas I want this addressed. There's no easy way to do it without talking about where those workers are coming from. He didn't just say Asia, he said "South Asia". He means India. If you and others like you dismiss him as a bigot you'll get more nasty surprises at the ballot box as folks like me give up on liberal socialism that feels like lip service and turn to guys like Trump to protect our jobs. Again, nothing to do with racism, everything to do with money.
diversity doesn't work because people are people. We're not as different as we like to tell ourselves. The only difference is how hard you can work someone based on how desperate their upbringing was.
When we're talking H1-Bs coming here taking entry level or just above entry level code monkey jobs that companies used to train Americans to do. Every tech worker on this forum has lost at least $30k/yr to wage depression from the H1-B program. My life is worse than my parents and my kinds life will be worse than mine. She'll graduate into a $50/$60/k yr job with $30k debt. Fuck that.
It's not racism, it's protectionism. My attitude is this: Don't come to my Country and drive down wages and make my life shit. Go make your country not a hell hole.
but I'm mostly seeing code monkeys. Meanwhile companies don't train anymore. Ever. I've watched every company I know fire their training departments and slash funding to pay for certifications. Ten years ago an ex-coworker of mine got $10k in Salesforce training that he took on company time. Me today? Not so much.
We can send the H1-Bs back and train Americans in 6 months to do their jobs. We don't want to. Trump got into office on the promise of doing that. Bannon is making motions to do that.
those crazy high college costs. Turns out companies bring them over here and pay for schooling so they can have them work as "interns" (there are no quotes big enough for the preceding). Far from subsidizing my kid's education they're so profitable that they're squeezing her out. She'll need a 4.0 just to get into her year 3 classes. That's not grade inflation either. Kids are retaking classes they get Bs in to maintain that 4.0.
Either that or fund schools enough that you can finish them with a C average. But right now there's not enough space in the 300 level courses for Americans. Sorry, but send them back. Bernie & Hilary lost so that's the best I can hope for...
CNN isn't left. MSNBC isn't either. Rachel F'n Maddow doesn't make MSNBC left. When I start seeing front page editorials demanding stronger Unions and Single Payer Health Care I'll start calling them left.
Oh, you meant social issues, right? Gays marrying and such? That's nice and all. But it doesn't pay the bills. The media is left on social issues and hard right on economic issues. When you take even a cursory glance at who owns them the reasons become obvious. You can't run anything bigger than Mother Jones without getting bought out by some billionaire. If all else fails they'll do to you what they did to Gawker.
this is what happens when you put people in charge of gov't that don't believe gov't can do anything. Christ, it's like people don't even know what NASA and the Post Office are or the miracles they represent.
unless he breaks with what his VP Pence and Paul Ryan are saying they're going to do then they're going to put it back to what it was when I was a kid. Any break in coverage and you're screwed. States will have a high risk pool that's either underfunded or not funded. People will die with completely treatable illnesses.
Like I always say: You can do anything to anybody with these 5 simple little words: Who's gonna pay for it?
when he back pedaled on that. See here. Specifically this part:
But he, Vice President-elect Mike Pence and House Speaker Paul Ryan have provided some insights into how Republicans would handle the thorny issue of insuring the sick.
They would set up a two-track system: one for those who maintain continuous coverage and one for those who don't. And they would replace the subsidies with a tax credit or deduction to help people pay their premiums.
This is exactly how it was when I was a kid. Any gap in coverage and you're screwed. Tax subsidies are worthless to someone who's chronically ill. You've probably just lost your job. Best case you're on FMLA with no money coming in to pay for anything. Tax cuts don't help when there's no income to tax.
= completely blameless theft for mega corps. Gotta love it. Don't forget kiddos, coffee is for closers.
as long as you focus on their actual goal, which is buying up companies that could one day effectively compete. Microsoft is not, has not and never will be a technology company. Sun was. DEC was. Look where it got them.
is that they're too small to realize the cost savings from screwing their customers over in little ways. A 10 minute wait isn't worth it for them. Ditto Saving $100 bucks on some switches by buying the cheap stuff. Those little costs savings are huge for a mega corp. Your lousy customer service is some mid grade VP's summer home.
then bring it. Right now. As long as you don't let your local right wing party under fund it then it'll be fantastic. The here in Arizona we passed a law mandating service levels at our DMV and made sure the funding was enough and it's pretty fantastic. Short waits, knowledgeable staff. Now, you do have to watch out for folks with that "Starve the Beast" mentality who'll slash funding and then say "See, Gov't can't do anything right!". But if you do that you'll be fine.
Put another way, I've yet to meet a Canadian or Brit who makes under $300k/yr and would trade their Health care system for mine.
that the right has been doing these things non-stop for 8 years, longer if include the KKK which we sorta pretend isn't a thing because the Media has been intentionally ignoring them.
The left is going a bit overboard out of fear. Very, very legitimate fear. If you have friends with life threatening medical conditions and they're not very, very well off they are going to die soon. That's not idle speculation. Their medical care came from the ACA, which is being gutted. If you're under 55 they're coming for your Medicare too. You're going to die in your 60s of something completely preventable. This is all happening. If you're not rich and not scared you're not paying attention.
vs decades of ideological beliefs. Liberals yelling out "I wish somebody would plant Mike Pence & Trump in the ground" didn't really start until the election ended and the fear set in. Until then everybody just assumed they were relatively harmless baboons. A bit of hyperbole is to be expected in the face of what's coming (hope you're health, you're about to lose pre-existing condition coverage unless you're rich enough to pay for COBRA).
The alt-right here have been on a non-stop campaign of hate and fear since day one. They're terrorists, and should be treated as such. People seem to forget what the KKK was (probably because they weren't black and living in the American South)....
US is a little fuzzier. The laws are written to take intent into consideration. In other words, if you follow the letter of the law and violate the spirit you get nailed. It's banking, which hurts people that matter though, so take that as you will.
on one of the major news networks today. And it wasn't Fox or MSNBC. So yeah, things are getting pretty crazy. The media just keeps right on pouring gasoline on the fire so long as it sells news.
that was well established during the election. You're not really getting Trump except as a figure head.
"can lead to incorrect and non-reproducible results". I'd be bloody rich. I'd have just said: "Yeah, you got us again. How much you want this time?"