Where the F are my mod points when I need them. Microsoft has done more to retard the state of technology than anyone but Intel. RAMBUS, Itanium, please! What software developer of the "next big thing" is not deterred by the fact that Microsoft would just make a lowball offer, or throw money at a substandard knock off to kill off any potential killer product.
Where would the would be without Microsoft? Running a superior OS and application suite W/O fear of being run into the ground by substandard, over-marketed software. Go away, Bill and let your beast DIE!
"I find it disturbing that so many define their relationship with companies in the IT world in terms of hatred (whether lack of or intensity of)."
Come on. Don't fuck it up does not mean anything?
It sure would be nice if Google were to win something.007Mhz or something. They could parlay that into SOMETHING. I'll be dammed if they do not launch their own cell network or the like. Please got let Google kill Sprint Verizon AT&T or something. Those providers suck.
"Michael Jackson who had real talent."
Really? I am skeptical as to whether the talent resided with Jackson or the producers of his music. Granted, Thriller was an exceptional album but, how much of that was Jackson?
You got half of it. Modern diseases would not be as adept at infecting a Human from 5000 years ago. What modern diseases would the Iceman be immune or resistant to without being from the modern gene pool? Perhaps that genetic code might contain the key to defeating malaria or AIDS?
Why should I suffer my system running at 90%-50% capability, 100% of the time, when I can suffer that loss instead for only the few %of the time I am looking for something. I have yet to see indexing actually reduce search times, while I can noticeably tell the difference in performance and response time between enable/disable.
Paul and Jamie are not exactly the ideal candidates for the 0G myths I'd like to see busted. Of course I'm thinking more along the lines of Girls Gone Wild...in Space! Peter North and a few Czech sorority girls though...
"But could this have other implications - like easier homebrew development for consoles?"
I am pretty sure that is NOT what EA is looking for. I am pretty sure they enjoy the high cost of entry that the console market provides. If they had any sack, they would develop their own X-Box like system and develop to that. I think that they have enough licenses in the sports arena alone to drive sales. Hell find a partner, negotiate an exclusive agreement and go.
My understanding of the situation was the Intel was giving Dell a "discount" on their processors for staying Intel only, but was giving the same "discount" to HP. If true, I doubt Dell was amused.
"Inappropriate?" I don't get it. It is a GAME, and a tame one at that. There are far worse horrors in the Bible itself to be concerned about if one is of that bent. How many crucifixions, global floods or human sacrifice take place in Halo?
"The effective exec recognizes design talent and recognizes that the best way to create great work is to leave them be and support them when necessary."
Seems to me that this strategy would lead to another Duke Nukem Forever.
I would have to disagree with your assessment. It is my experience that, for the level of competence that you define in your scenario, an Indian or Chinese programmer will cost the same as anywhere else.
The basic code monkey, IS much less expensive. However with the regions I work with in China and India there is a 20 - 40% annual turnover rate at that level. Which make high level, sustained efforts challenging.
My business has had to learn the hard way, that at the top 10% skill level, there is NO cost savings for using offshore talent and quite a bit of extra work, unless our projects are managed at the regional level. Even then, the quality of the product is not comparable to equivalent, domestically run efforts.
A key thing to remember is that in India and China, labor necessarily the only factor to consider. The cost per square foot for Powered, lighted and climate controlled is a component our migration planners failed to take into account. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-04/05/content_320651.htm
In our initial assessments of the potential cost savings, it was proposed that there was a 10 to 1 ratio for the work produced when using regional talent per dollar. However, in reality it is more like 1.2 to 1 for equivalent projects and the falling Dollar on track to wipe that out before we recoup our start up costs.
Well, doctors and lawyers have trade associations that can artificially limit the supply. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing in the case of the lawyers. Also, in IT, if one makes a critical error, it is much less likely that some one could die.
The interesting or sad thing, depending on one's perspective is that for companies who buy processors, and systems in quantities, is that they run their own benchmarks using their own applications before they buy in bulk. So no matter what the marketing spin the chip vendors run, they must perform before they can sell.
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Clearly, being a consent decree violating monopolist, has it's advantages. If only Gore had won...
Where the F are my mod points when I need them. Microsoft has done more to retard the state of technology than anyone but Intel. RAMBUS, Itanium, please! What software developer of the "next big thing" is not deterred by the fact that Microsoft would just make a lowball offer, or throw money at a substandard knock off to kill off any potential killer product. Where would the would be without Microsoft? Running a superior OS and application suite W/O fear of being run into the ground by substandard, over-marketed software. Go away, Bill and let your beast DIE!
Brilliant! HA!
"I find it disturbing that so many define their relationship with companies in the IT world in terms of hatred (whether lack of or intensity of)." Come on. Don't fuck it up does not mean anything?
It sure would be nice if Google were to win something .007Mhz or something. They could parlay that into SOMETHING. I'll be dammed if they do not launch their own cell network or the like. Please got let Google kill Sprint Verizon AT&T or something. Those providers suck.
Who are you? I tried messaging at Storm~ but the Captcha thing does not seem to work. You write well and I am curious as to your mendacity.
"Michael Jackson who had real talent." Really? I am skeptical as to whether the talent resided with Jackson or the producers of his music. Granted, Thriller was an exceptional album but, how much of that was Jackson?
My sister didn't tell me she got married!
You got half of it. Modern diseases would not be as adept at infecting a Human from 5000 years ago. What modern diseases would the Iceman be immune or resistant to without being from the modern gene pool? Perhaps that genetic code might contain the key to defeating malaria or AIDS?
Why should I suffer my system running at 90%-50% capability, 100% of the time, when I can suffer that loss instead for only the few %of the time I am looking for something. I have yet to see indexing actually reduce search times, while I can noticeably tell the difference in performance and response time between enable/disable.
I concur. The generally seem to be less offensive than the other "looking for a greater meaning" types. Once the Bible thumpers go in to politics...
Paul and Jamie are not exactly the ideal candidates for the 0G myths I'd like to see busted. Of course I'm thinking more along the lines of Girls Gone Wild...in Space! Peter North and a few Czech sorority girls though...
"But could this have other implications - like easier homebrew development for consoles?" I am pretty sure that is NOT what EA is looking for. I am pretty sure they enjoy the high cost of entry that the console market provides. If they had any sack, they would develop their own X-Box like system and develop to that. I think that they have enough licenses in the sports arena alone to drive sales. Hell find a partner, negotiate an exclusive agreement and go.
I agree, one that was not as funny.
My understanding of the situation was the Intel was giving Dell a "discount" on their processors for staying Intel only, but was giving the same "discount" to HP. If true, I doubt Dell was amused.
"Inappropriate?" I don't get it. It is a GAME, and a tame one at that. There are far worse horrors in the Bible itself to be concerned about if one is of that bent. How many crucifixions, global floods or human sacrifice take place in Halo?
"The effective exec recognizes design talent and recognizes that the best way to create great work is to leave them be and support them when necessary."
Seems to me that this strategy would lead to another Duke Nukem Forever.
I would have to disagree with your assessment. It is my experience that, for the level of competence that you define in your scenario, an Indian or Chinese programmer will cost the same as anywhere else.
The basic code monkey, IS much less expensive. However with the regions I work with in China and India there is a 20 - 40% annual turnover rate at that level. Which make high level, sustained efforts challenging.
My business has had to learn the hard way, that at the top 10% skill level, there is NO cost savings for using offshore talent and quite a bit of extra work, unless our projects are managed at the regional level. Even then, the quality of the product is not comparable to equivalent, domestically run efforts.
A key thing to remember is that in India and China, labor necessarily the only factor to consider. The cost per square foot for Powered, lighted and climate controlled is a component our migration planners failed to take into account. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-04/05/content_320651.htm
In our initial assessments of the potential cost savings, it was proposed that there was a 10 to 1 ratio for the work produced when using regional talent per dollar. However, in reality it is more like 1.2 to 1 for equivalent projects and the falling Dollar on track to wipe that out before we recoup our start up costs.
Well, doctors and lawyers have trade associations that can artificially limit the supply. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing in the case of the lawyers. Also, in IT, if one makes a critical error, it is much less likely that some one could die.
As a guy, I can think of a good place...
Who are you, the PjM for Duke Nukem' Forever?
"potatoes"
Dan Q is that you?
BTW the line "President Quayle" no longer scares me.
Why is it that when a poster says something sensible I have not mod points. But when there is nothing but drivel on /. I have mods to burn?
The interesting or sad thing, depending on one's perspective is that for companies who buy processors, and systems in quantities, is that they run their own benchmarks using their own applications before they buy in bulk. So no matter what the marketing spin the chip vendors run, they must perform before they can sell.
Mmm, heat is a bitch, where is the power consumption in your metrics?