It is not easy to remove, I have played with one of these. If you try to take it off while it is locked then a alert is sent to the call center, but the watch wont come off (unless you do what the previous poster a few comments up said).
Yhis could just be me still being ticked that MS even tried a stunt like this, but does anyone know how much Dell actually pays for a license for each box. This is hypothetical, but lets say that MS GIVES them the os (or for like $10) a box, because they know that end user is probably going to use Exploder, MSN, and probably buy and Office product, not to mention the data it gathers on people who use the "free" Passport. So maybe the cost is the same or very close to the same for Dell to sell a Osless Pc and A windows PC. Like I said I don't know these things for sure it is just a stab in the dark. Also all those asking why no Linux OS, can you imagine how hard it would be to get a commitee together to decide which linux to ship, and we all know how fanatical Linux users can get (I know I am one) I can see all over the place "What the hell is Dell thinking shipping Corel Linux, its such a Piece of crap, they should have shipped (insert your fave distro here)" so the freedos is a great idea!
I admit I thought that Dell was going to bend over and just take it, I am glad to see they were inventive and found a way to get around a truly unfair business practice. Good Job Dell!!!
I hope more companies that get bullied (and I mean even if this wasn't slashdot I think most people would agree that this was bullying) by MS will come up with different ways to follow thier stupid restrictions and still give it to MS. Again good goin Dell!
The problem is that the people coming up with these are short sighted and *HOPE* that something else will come around and replace barcodes, but a little foresight and planning would do these people some good, make it a 16 or 20 digit bar code, that way in case the replacement hasn't come around by the time the 13 digits run out we won't be in the same place we are now.
I am a CTO at a company and maybe I am too close to it to be objective, but if anything Overvalued is not the word I would use for me. I am the first one in, and the last one out EVERY day, and have never had a weekend where a client didn't call me, heaven forbid I get a vacation. While I do agree with the software and hardware spending I keep my shop running as lean and mean as possible because I also realize that for a company to survive and thrive they need to be frugal. I am not complaining about having to work all the time, because I love what I do but I don't think me or any of my assistants (only 2) are Overvalued. While there are for sure companies out there that are (were) spending too much on IT, it is still a very important part of any successfull company nowadays.
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Sometimes you know you are going to lose (see Ralph Nader), but its better to create a loud noise and change at least a few peoples minds than to not have done anything at all (again see Ralph Nader). Change is sometimes slow, becuase sometimes education on certain subjects are slow, but it is a move in the right direction.
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Thats an interesting thought, take a collection at each lug and use the money to show people the stability and ease of use of linux. I am sure RedHat and possibly even apple would help as well.
I will definitely be joining in next week! Its nice to see people using some of thier rights to insight change instead of just complaining, sure its not curing world hunger but this is a good thing. If more programmers would get involved in goverment even on a local scale and teach some of the less knowledgeable politicians, maybe not so many foolish decisions would be made in government concerning technology (especially Open Source and Fair Use).
Is this an opportunity for the WTO or the G8 to do something good for once and "encourage" the patent holders to forgo thier patents so we can help the under nourished? I'd like to see that happen but thats about as likely as Bill gates buying the corn rights and giving it away to the 3rd world. Gee I love this wonderful new free market economy we have that supposed to make everything fair and help the impovourished!
I actually don't think it is bad at all. I run servers so I need the upstream and realize I am more than the average customer so I should pay more for a premium service, but along with that I hope I get premium customer service on thier end (not sure if that is the case or not). This way I can run my servers and not have to pay business prices!
This is just my opinion but I think the fact that Mozilla did do it right by not making it be different on every platform. I use OS X mainly but have a unix and winblows box and I like the fact that I can go to any three and have my tabs and they all have the OS X theme so it looks good on top of that.
And this is a question just for ponderence (probably not a word) why should an app have to be a windows feeling app? As long as th UI is good, I'd prefer it to not have a windows UI because then that means the Unix and Mac versions get stuck with a UI that I didn't like to begin with. I know a lot of programers go to the system ui on each OS, but I have had too many windows feeling apps on my Mac to deal with.
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Damn FUNNY I am listening to that Pixie song as I was reading post, I know off topic but very cool!
Silly Rabbit... we were attacked once so now we can take away who ever's freedom we want, oh and geneva convention thats just on old piece of paper like that constitution thing. Seriously, do you think a country who is using a terrorist attack as an excuse to take away thier own citizens freedom are gonna care about an international law?
Probably one of the best anime films I have seen sice Akira and Vampire Hunter D (Which is an amazing DVD). It would be great to see an American film company do this but I think on Miramax or Sony Classics could pull it off, I mean c'mon spieldberg and co think good film is better than crappy but big money maker, I don't think so, I think I smell another Pokemon movie.
Oh I wish I could program like this, I would spend every waking moment on Open Office, not because it is free but because we desperately need an alternative to Office. While I think Office for X is amazing, we need competition and we need to be prepared for when the Apple-M$ deal goes south (it's closer than many think). Unix geeks and Mac Lovers should unite for a common goal in Open Office, the biggest problem is many users have no idea what fink is and are scared of the command line so we need a true OS X port of it, but I will be downloading it today!
That depends, if you have a decent employer and have a good argument I believe some employers would understand. A client wanted us to create an email system so they could spam people and I told my bosses I didn't feel right about doing it, talked to them about invasion of privacy, rudeness and how would we really want our company's name associated with something that is so intusive to people. Well we told the client that we were not going to do it and I still have my job, I know a lot of employers aren't like that but if we keep quiet how can we invoke standards in the work place. People have some balls and stand up for the end-users rights.
I disagree strongly, we can't take away the states rights to legislate, they are already losing thier power to a large central gov't that is seperated from the people by enourmous margin. Also the biometric card is something very scary, then it can be used for tracking more so than my SSN, what happend to innocent until proven guilty and my rights to be free?
I am american and I believe a lot of Global conflicts are because we want to protect our money and money making interests around the world with out always getting our hands dirty. We need to learn to mind our own business and if a country wants to not be capitalist then let them not be. Thats why we have the UN if we'd just let them do thier job instead of trying to control them subversively.
Sorry this is not a flame, just my opinion:
Thats a bit dangerous to throw around a statement without saying where the data is from, (not saying you did) maybe you saw it on the National Enquirer or maybe you saw it on the Wall Street Journal, depending on your viewpoint one is much more trust worthy than the other (up to you to decide which). I wonder how many of those conflicts involved christians, because in my experience in the world christians aren't very good at "Turning the other cheek" and in fact like to stir up a bit of trouble themselves.
Trust me, it's easier to get forgiveness than permission
Ain't that the truth brother, preach it! What sucks is my wife just let me buy a PS 2 last month, I have been so busy working that I haven't even had a chance to play it yet, and yes I am one of Squarsofts Bitches, when FF11 comes out I HAVE to get it so......
What PS3 honey, oh you mean that PS3... I don't know how that got there.
I agree! Without this man and all of the BSD crew where would computing be today? There is a reason Apple chose BSD to be the core of the greatest operating system to date. Thank you very much!
Strange... You are awfully certain of that. While I am not saying it is the true age one way or another, I would keep an open mind and get more facts before such a closed statement.
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Just what I need another thing to keep me from working.... Has anyone done a study on the effect of productivity as new games come out?
It is not easy to remove, I have played with one of these. If you try to take it off while it is locked then a alert is sent to the call center, but the watch wont come off (unless you do what the previous poster a few comments up said).
Yhis could just be me still being ticked that MS even tried a stunt like this, but does anyone know how much Dell actually pays for a license for each box. This is hypothetical, but lets say that MS GIVES them the os (or for like $10) a box, because they know that end user is probably going to use Exploder, MSN, and probably buy and Office product, not to mention the data it gathers on people who use the "free" Passport. So maybe the cost is the same or very close to the same for Dell to sell a Osless Pc and A windows PC. Like I said I don't know these things for sure it is just a stab in the dark. Also all those asking why no Linux OS, can you imagine how hard it would be to get a commitee together to decide which linux to ship, and we all know how fanatical Linux users can get (I know I am one) I can see all over the place "What the hell is Dell thinking shipping Corel Linux, its such a Piece of crap, they should have shipped (insert your fave distro here)" so the freedos is a great idea!
I admit I thought that Dell was going to bend over and just take it, I am glad to see they were inventive and found a way to get around a truly unfair business practice. Good Job Dell!!!
I hope more companies that get bullied (and I mean even if this wasn't slashdot I think most people would agree that this was bullying) by MS will come up with different ways to follow thier stupid restrictions and still give it to MS. Again good goin Dell!
The problem is that the people coming up with these are short sighted and *HOPE* that something else will come around and replace barcodes, but a little foresight and planning would do these people some good, make it a 16 or 20 digit bar code, that way in case the replacement hasn't come around by the time the 13 digits run out we won't be in the same place we are now.
I am a CTO at a company and maybe I am too close to it to be objective, but if anything Overvalued is not the word I would use for me. I am the first one in, and the last one out EVERY day, and have never had a weekend where a client didn't call me, heaven forbid I get a vacation. While I do agree with the software and hardware spending I keep my shop running as lean and mean as possible because I also realize that for a company to survive and thrive they need to be frugal. I am not complaining about having to work all the time, because I love what I do but I don't think me or any of my assistants (only 2) are Overvalued. While there are for sure companies out there that are (were) spending too much on IT, it is still a very important part of any successfull company nowadays.
Sometimes you know you are going to lose (see Ralph Nader), but its better to create a loud noise and change at least a few peoples minds than to not have done anything at all (again see Ralph Nader). Change is sometimes slow, becuase sometimes education on certain subjects are slow, but it is a move in the right direction.
Thats an interesting thought, take a collection at each lug and use the money to show people the stability and ease of use of linux. I am sure RedHat and possibly even apple would help as well.
I will definitely be joining in next week! Its nice to see people using some of thier rights to insight change instead of just complaining, sure its not curing world hunger but this is a good thing. If more programmers would get involved in goverment even on a local scale and teach some of the less knowledgeable politicians, maybe not so many foolish decisions would be made in government concerning technology (especially Open Source and Fair Use).
Is this an opportunity for the WTO or the G8 to do something good for once and "encourage" the patent holders to forgo thier patents so we can help the under nourished? I'd like to see that happen but thats about as likely as Bill gates buying the corn rights and giving it away to the 3rd world. Gee I love this wonderful new free market economy we have that supposed to make everything fair and help the impovourished!
I actually don't think it is bad at all. I run servers so I need the upstream and realize I am more than the average customer so I should pay more for a premium service, but along with that I hope I get premium customer service on thier end (not sure if that is the case or not). This way I can run my servers and not have to pay business prices!
This is just my opinion but I think the fact that Mozilla did do it right by not making it be different on every platform. I use OS X mainly but have a unix and winblows box and I like the fact that I can go to any three and have my tabs and they all have the OS X theme so it looks good on top of that.
And this is a question just for ponderence (probably not a word) why should an app have to be a windows feeling app? As long as th UI is good, I'd prefer it to not have a windows UI because then that means the Unix and Mac versions get stuck with a UI that I didn't like to begin with. I know a lot of programers go to the system ui on each OS, but I have had too many windows feeling apps on my Mac to deal with.
Damn FUNNY I am listening to that Pixie song as I was reading post, I know off topic but very cool!
Hey you forgot those damn pesky Canadians
Silly Rabbit... we were attacked once so now we can take away who ever's freedom we want, oh and geneva convention thats just on old piece of paper like that constitution thing. Seriously, do you think a country who is using a terrorist attack as an excuse to take away thier own citizens freedom are gonna care about an international law?
Probably one of the best anime films I have seen sice Akira and Vampire Hunter D (Which is an amazing DVD). It would be great to see an American film company do this but I think on Miramax or Sony Classics could pull it off, I mean c'mon spieldberg and co think good film is better than crappy but big money maker, I don't think so, I think I smell another Pokemon movie.
Oh I wish I could program like this, I would spend every waking moment on Open Office, not because it is free but because we desperately need an alternative to Office. While I think Office for X is amazing, we need competition and we need to be prepared for when the Apple-M$ deal goes south (it's closer than many think). Unix geeks and Mac Lovers should unite for a common goal in Open Office, the biggest problem is many users have no idea what fink is and are scared of the command line so we need a true OS X port of it, but I will be downloading it today!
That depends, if you have a decent employer and have a good argument I believe some employers would understand. A client wanted us to create an email system so they could spam people and I told my bosses I didn't feel right about doing it, talked to them about invasion of privacy, rudeness and how would we really want our company's name associated with something that is so intusive to people. Well we told the client that we were not going to do it and I still have my job, I know a lot of employers aren't like that but if we keep quiet how can we invoke standards in the work place. People have some balls and stand up for the end-users rights.
I disagree strongly, we can't take away the states rights to legislate, they are already losing thier power to a large central gov't that is seperated from the people by enourmous margin. Also the biometric card is something very scary, then it can be used for tracking more so than my SSN, what happend to innocent until proven guilty and my rights to be free?
I am american and I believe a lot of Global conflicts are because we want to protect our money and money making interests around the world with out always getting our hands dirty. We need to learn to mind our own business and if a country wants to not be capitalist then let them not be. Thats why we have the UN if we'd just let them do thier job instead of trying to control them subversively.
Sorry this is not a flame, just my opinion: Thats a bit dangerous to throw around a statement without saying where the data is from, (not saying you did) maybe you saw it on the National Enquirer or maybe you saw it on the Wall Street Journal, depending on your viewpoint one is much more trust worthy than the other (up to you to decide which). I wonder how many of those conflicts involved christians, because in my experience in the world christians aren't very good at "Turning the other cheek" and in fact like to stir up a bit of trouble themselves.
Trust me, it's easier to get forgiveness than permission
Ain't that the truth brother, preach it! What sucks is my wife just let me buy a PS 2 last month, I have been so busy working that I haven't even had a chance to play it yet, and yes I am one of Squarsofts Bitches, when FF11 comes out I HAVE to get it so...... What PS3 honey, oh you mean that PS3... I don't know how that got there.
I agree! Without this man and all of the BSD crew where would computing be today? There is a reason Apple chose BSD to be the core of the greatest operating system to date. Thank you very much!
Also SuSE has a great PPC distro, before OS X I was running SuSE on an old 604 as a mail, php, mysql server
Strange... You are awfully certain of that. While I am not saying it is the true age one way or another, I would keep an open mind and get more facts before such a closed statement.