But those aren't consumer rights, those are just basic principles of trading.
Consumer rights in Denmark include 2 years guarantee on all hardware (first 6 month is on the seller to prove the customer improperly handled the equipment, last 18 months are on the consumer - but in practice companies will provide free service for the full 24 months).
Our rights include stringent monitoring of quality. The right to cancel a buy if the seller doesn't live up to stuff like reasonable RMA time (usually a month maximum) - that means that even after using the product for 6 months, the seller has to provide good care for the product or might end up having to refund the customer.
A company advertising is not allowed to hide costs, for instance when buying a mobile phone on plan they have to provide you with the full minimum expense for the period in plain sight - that means you aren't even allowed to make a star and print it with small letters.
Of course these rights comes at an expense, generally we pay a bit more for our hardware compared to US prices, but then again - we are usually shipped the stuff with lower faults since faulty stuff will be send right back to the supplier. (Samsung for instance has a specific line of tellies for supplying the Nordic region, these comes with quite a lot added guarentees, but are generally more expensive than parallel imports)
But they are more important, thats how you protect the consumer. Same goes for Denmark, we don't have insane binding periods with our mobile phones because the consumer has more rights than the company selling a product.
How could she possibly know the content of the EULA before buying the computer? It isn't represented to the person until boot. On top of that, most sane courts in the EU laughs at contracts like the EULA.
Also you totally missed the point about the rights of the consumer in France, seeing your sig you are obviously from the US which is probably why you never heard of consumer rights.
And the last thing - most of us wouldn't mind if MS packed their backs and got the fudge out of EU.
depends, if we talk about it compared to the original movies, the first prequel sucked and I wanted to kill myself - however, if we are considering the movie as it self without comparing it to the stories to follow it, it was entertaining, had some nice fights and "car" chases. The problem is I went to see the first part of the star wars saga and was seriously let down.
While I do agree it wasn't on par with the rest of them, calling it hell-a bad isn't fair. Watched it the other day, while the special effects wasn't anything to write home about these days, I do remember back then finding it really cool and convincing - and I still enjoyed watching it.
SMS is expected to arrive instantly these days. Here in Denmark SMS can cost down to 1 øre while just making a call is 25 øre, so people have begun using SMS as communication instead of calls - and thus expect it to be instant.
SMS is for most people instant messaging - just like E-mail has become. Yes this is not what was intended, but this is what consumers expect. If a telecom doesn't deliver SMS within a very small timeframe people will find a new carrier.
A feature can easily be a security issue in the hands of the wrong person. Getting rid of these features removes some of the most common attack vectors on PHP sites.
The stuff addressed are some of the widest security holes. On top of that the old way of programming PHP and most guides out there encouraged the usage of these bad functions, getting them totally removed is a huge step forward.
Write me a program then that absolutely makes sure that no vote gets lost.
Adding to a counter isn't that simple - what if it fails, how do you recover? What if the recovery fails? Creating exception safe programs is extremely hard - Oh you want it on a higher level language? How do you PROVE! that said language is safe?
This is not a simple problem, and thus should default to simplest possible solution - have humans from both/all camps count all votes under supervision from volunteers.
And what is it with people and answering a statement totally out of context and thus proving a point towards themselves that wasn't even raised to begin with?
Yes MySQL and PHP get hit all the time, but not by multiple statements in one query since its impossible to do in PHP with MySQL (just to be pedantic since people obvisously cant read between the lines)
Well lamp isn't as vulnerable as MS SQL is - not because of better security mind you, but due to lack of support for multi queries in PHP.
When injecting in PHP/MySQL environment you are limited limited to what you can do inside the query provided by the server (or of course if some retard has put the whole query as an get/put you got free pickings.)
Taking one out of rotation might (along with what others have noted) cause the load on other servers to become just high enough that you risk maximizing the load should a sudden rush occur. Or even better, some part of the system doesn't respect the DNS load balancer(or whatever you have) and tries to keep on connecting to the box currently down.
You also got situations where a client will only talk to the machine its registered with (even in a load balanced situation) - so taking the server out means calls going for that client can't be routed until the client re-registers with some other part of the cluster. Not having to reboot is a nice feature.
Not sure if this is only applicable in Denmark, but I'm pretty sure the law stems from EU. We have to put on the advertisements/price listings what the minimum total will be, if a phone is costing a minimum of 18.000SEK, people are probably gonna go for a Nokia or Samsung instead.
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So they are all the same, except everything is different?
But those aren't consumer rights, those are just basic principles of trading.
Consumer rights in Denmark include 2 years guarantee on all hardware (first 6 month is on the seller to prove the customer improperly handled the equipment, last 18 months are on the consumer - but in practice companies will provide free service for the full 24 months).
Our rights include stringent monitoring of quality. The right to cancel a buy if the seller doesn't live up to stuff like reasonable RMA time (usually a month maximum) - that means that even after using the product for 6 months, the seller has to provide good care for the product or might end up having to refund the customer.
A company advertising is not allowed to hide costs, for instance when buying a mobile phone on plan they have to provide you with the full minimum expense for the period in plain sight - that means you aren't even allowed to make a star and print it with small letters.
Of course these rights comes at an expense, generally we pay a bit more for our hardware compared to US prices, but then again - we are usually shipped the stuff with lower faults since faulty stuff will be send right back to the supplier. (Samsung for instance has a specific line of tellies for supplying the Nordic region, these comes with quite a lot added guarentees, but are generally more expensive than parallel imports)
But they are more important, thats how you protect the consumer. Same goes for Denmark, we don't have insane binding periods with our mobile phones because the consumer has more rights than the company selling a product.
How could she possibly know the content of the EULA before buying the computer? It isn't represented to the person until boot.
On top of that, most sane courts in the EU laughs at contracts like the EULA.
Also you totally missed the point about the rights of the consumer in France, seeing your sig you are obviously from the US which is probably why you never heard of consumer rights.
And the last thing - most of us wouldn't mind if MS packed their backs and got the fudge out of EU.
depends, if we talk about it compared to the original movies, the first prequel sucked and I wanted to kill myself - however, if we are considering the movie as it self without comparing it to the stories to follow it, it was entertaining, had some nice fights and "car" chases. The problem is I went to see the first part of the star wars saga and was seriously let down.
While I do agree it wasn't on par with the rest of them, calling it hell-a bad isn't fair. Watched it the other day, while the special effects wasn't anything to write home about these days, I do remember back then finding it really cool and convincing - and I still enjoyed watching it.
Or you could be aiding in rick rolling us.
//crawls under his table and puts on his tin-foil hat
The plot thickens!
The numbers coming out are pretty accurate. Last news broadcast said around 20.000 - both from officials and outside estimates.
No they wont.
SMS is expected to arrive instantly these days. Here in Denmark SMS can cost down to 1 øre while just making a call is 25 øre, so people have begun using SMS as communication instead of calls - and thus expect it to be instant.
Yeah because its ever so more secure having the customer standing and slowly punching the keypad in plain view because the numbers have moved around.
No they can't.
SMS is for most people instant messaging - just like E-mail has become. Yes this is not what was intended, but this is what consumers expect. If a telecom doesn't deliver SMS within a very small timeframe people will find a new carrier.
and you are telling me this because what?
A feature can easily be a security issue in the hands of the wrong person. Getting rid of these features removes some of the most common attack vectors on PHP sites.
"and a bunch of stuff removed"
The stuff addressed are some of the widest security holes. On top of that the old way of programming PHP and most guides out there encouraged the usage of these bad functions, getting them totally removed is a huge step forward.
A computer scientist would clearly have seen the real truth - an off by one error!
Just because people can do sing-along to something being blasted through the radio 10 times a day doesn't mean they will actually buy the music.
You of course are aware that Cuba has way better medical care for its citizens than the US does?
Think they'll like to pass on getting US style medical.
is it that simple?
Write me a program then that absolutely makes sure that no vote gets lost.
Adding to a counter isn't that simple - what if it fails, how do you recover? What if the recovery fails? Creating exception safe programs is extremely hard - Oh you want it on a higher level language? How do you PROVE! that said language is safe?
This is not a simple problem, and thus should default to simplest possible solution - have humans from both/all camps count all votes under supervision from volunteers.
Now that I would pay for.
Does it now?
What version of PHP are you using?
And what is it with people and answering a statement totally out of context and thus proving a point towards themselves that wasn't even raised to begin with?
Yes MySQL and PHP get hit all the time, but not by multiple statements in one query since its impossible to do in PHP with MySQL (just to be pedantic since people obvisously cant read between the lines)
That will only work on languages supporting multiple statements. PHP/MySQL which is the most commonly used will just throw an error at you.
Well lamp isn't as vulnerable as MS SQL is - not because of better security mind you, but due to lack of support for multi queries in PHP.
When injecting in PHP/MySQL environment you are limited limited to what you can do inside the query provided by the server (or of course if some retard has put the whole query as an get/put you got free pickings.)
He is most likely running some sort of warm failover and thinking he is safe (or the data isn't time critical enough to care that its only warm data).
Taking one out of rotation might (along with what others have noted) cause the load on other servers to become just high enough that you risk maximizing the load should a sudden rush occur. Or even better, some part of the system doesn't respect the DNS load balancer(or whatever you have) and tries to keep on connecting to the box currently down.
You also got situations where a client will only talk to the machine its registered with (even in a load balanced situation) - so taking the server out means calls going for that client can't be routed until the client re-registers with some other part of the cluster. Not having to reboot is a nice feature.
Not sure if this is only applicable in Denmark, but I'm pretty sure the law stems from EU. We have to put on the advertisements/price listings what the minimum total will be, if a phone is costing a minimum of 18.000SEK, people are probably gonna go for a Nokia or Samsung instead.
PG is a nice database, but it does not provide instant failover, and thus does not provide what I need.