How many times have you gone into a store with no intentioned of buying something, but walked out with a product you didn't want, didn't need, but still feel great about purchasing it, and that you got a great deal.
None. This may work for the uninformed or the unprepared, but it doesn't work on me. I'm not afraid to hang up if they won't listen, and I'm not afraid to walk away from a salesman either. It's not my obligation to listen. And it's not the government's obligation to help people make money by tricking stupid people into buying stuff they don't need. If the people say they want no-call lists, then by all means we should have no-call lists.
That's hours of my time spent doing something that serves me no purpose and waste's someone else's time as well.
I think that second part is prtty important too. Why should telemarketers want to call people who obviously have no interest in buying their products? If their products are legit and they do have interested buyers somewhere, then they shouldn't be worrying about all the people who are going to hang up on them anyway. Every call they make that doesn't lead to a sale is lost money. Weeding out the futile calls should save them a lot of money.
If, on the other hand, their products are crap and NO ONE will want to buy it, save for the morons who can be talked into anything, then who cares if they can't sell them? I certainly don't. They need a better product, and a better marketing system.
This is just like the problem with internet ads. People spend so much time and effor (and money) on stupid methods of getting your attention (popups, animation, blinking, ads scrolling across the page, sounds, etc, etc, etc) because they know their products won't sell. They have no market, so they try to force their way into everyone's view hoping someone will bite. That's not how it works. Good businesses make products designed for a specific market and target their advertising to that market. I don't mind seeing an ad on slashdot for a compiler, and I'm likely to even click on that ad. That's good marketing. It's targeted well and it's a valuable product. There's no need for a popup there. However, I do mind seeing an ad (popup or otherwise) for a product completely unrelated to what I'm doing. An X10 ad popping up on my screen while I'm looking up programming references isn't going to lead to a sale. That's just ridiculous.
In summary, these people need to fire their marketing people (or maybe hire some if they don't have any) and try to actually sell a product instead of just throwing it out there hoping someone will see value in it.
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I remember "foolproof" from way back in the day (like 10 years ago or so)...one of my 6th grade teachers used it on his macs...we just rebooted while holding shift down and it wouldn't start. Great security...:)
I have been waiting impatiently to see someone make this point. Thank you for finally saying it.
Cookies are not magic. The only info they can store is tht which the browser sends to the server. They can't download your addressbook or your credit card info or bank account #, etc.
It's true that using an ID allows servers to track where you've been, but only on that server! The default settings in most browsers only allow cookies to be read by the same server that set them. So why is it a privacy concern for amazon.com to know which books you looked at so that they can suggest other books next time you visit?
I don't think this really fits his situation. We're talking about two distinct parts here: an OSS framework and a closed source codebase on top of that. The question is where to draw the boundary. It's not one codebase with 2 licenses; it's 2 codebases that are closely related, each with a different license.
So they're probably less qualified too? I feel sorry for the future programmers who will have to fix all the bad code that is produced by cheap programmers. I know from experience how annoying that can be.
So foreigners (a lot of Indians and Asians) come to America for our "superior education". Then they move back and work for much less money than we do and take over our jobs?
And yet the universities insist that diversity is good for us.
I think the big problem with passwords is when you don't use them enough to remember them. If that's the case, then by the time you have to use the password again you've forgotten how you described the inkblot. After 2 months I think the odds are pretty good that you might look at it a little differently (at least enough to change the first letter of ONE of them). In that case the password's lost. If this is to be used for passwords you use every day, then I think people won't have a problem remembering it without the inkblots.
But democracy and capitalism cannot coexist so nobody ever raised an eyebrow.
That's a pretty ridiculous statement. You can go on and on about ideals and how you think things should work, but we clearly live in a place that is both democratic and capitalistic by the actual definitions of both of those concepts. Whether it meets your ideal definitions of how a democracy or a capitalist society should work is beside the point.
Microsoft does not put AOL shortcuts on desktops. Microsoft puts MSN shortcuts on its desktops. OEMs might add AOL shortcuts, but that's a deal between AOL and the OEM.
I think that could be a good thing. It provides incentive for companies to produce open-source code. They get to develop something for free basically. And then other people get them to develop stuff for free.:)
I kind of like the idea now that I've thought about it.
I was also wondering about the tax status of this new organization. If they ARE tax exempt (I don't know the rules for that, so someone fill me in) could this be just an easy way for AOL to save money? Make part of your company that was non-profit already officially non-profit and then write off all your budget for it as a donation.
I'm not sure what I would think about that. It seems sneaky...but it's good for mozilla...hmmm...i'm torn....
No, actually it's not. A "rimshot" is hitting the drumhead and rim at the same time. It has nothing to do with the little "da-doo crash" thing people do after jokes. Everyone just misuses the word rimshot.
It wouldn't do any good to release it for the Zaurus, since the Zaurus's SD slot can only do memory. You can't use other devices. At least last time I checked that was the case...
So are they gonna just license the top X songs? I, for one, have no interest in the most popular music. I can't stand most popular music. It's uncreative and uninteresting. I do NOT want to pay for access to these crappy songs. So I think it's a pretty bad idea.
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How many times have you gone into a store with no intentioned of buying something, but walked out with a product you didn't want, didn't need, but still feel great about purchasing it, and that you got a great deal. None. This may work for the uninformed or the unprepared, but it doesn't work on me. I'm not afraid to hang up if they won't listen, and I'm not afraid to walk away from a salesman either. It's not my obligation to listen. And it's not the government's obligation to help people make money by tricking stupid people into buying stuff they don't need. If the people say they want no-call lists, then by all means we should have no-call lists.
That's hours of my time spent doing something that serves me no purpose and waste's someone else's time as well. I think that second part is prtty important too. Why should telemarketers want to call people who obviously have no interest in buying their products? If their products are legit and they do have interested buyers somewhere, then they shouldn't be worrying about all the people who are going to hang up on them anyway. Every call they make that doesn't lead to a sale is lost money. Weeding out the futile calls should save them a lot of money.
If, on the other hand, their products are crap and NO ONE will want to buy it, save for the morons who can be talked into anything, then who cares if they can't sell them? I certainly don't. They need a better product, and a better marketing system.
This is just like the problem with internet ads. People spend so much time and effor (and money) on stupid methods of getting your attention (popups, animation, blinking, ads scrolling across the page, sounds, etc, etc, etc) because they know their products won't sell. They have no market, so they try to force their way into everyone's view hoping someone will bite. That's not how it works. Good businesses make products designed for a specific market and target their advertising to that market. I don't mind seeing an ad on slashdot for a compiler, and I'm likely to even click on that ad. That's good marketing. It's targeted well and it's a valuable product. There's no need for a popup there. However, I do mind seeing an ad (popup or otherwise) for a product completely unrelated to what I'm doing. An X10 ad popping up on my screen while I'm looking up programming references isn't going to lead to a sale. That's just ridiculous.
In summary, these people need to fire their marketing people (or maybe hire some if they don't have any) and try to actually sell a product instead of just throwing it out there hoping someone will see value in it.
I remember "foolproof" from way back in the day (like 10 years ago or so)...one of my 6th grade teachers used it on his macs...we just rebooted while holding shift down and it wouldn't start. Great security... :)
You mean the more obvious, right?
I have been waiting impatiently to see someone make this point. Thank you for finally saying it.
Cookies are not magic. The only info they can store is tht which the browser sends to the server. They can't download your addressbook or your credit card info or bank account #, etc.
It's true that using an ID allows servers to track where you've been, but only on that server! The default settings in most browsers only allow cookies to be read by the same server that set them. So why is it a privacy concern for amazon.com to know which books you looked at so that they can suggest other books next time you visit?
I don't get it...How is this a concern?
I don't think this really fits his situation. We're talking about two distinct parts here: an OSS framework and a closed source codebase on top of that. The question is where to draw the boundary. It's not one codebase with 2 licenses; it's 2 codebases that are closely related, each with a different license.
Or maybe Doom Whenever?
So they're probably less qualified too? I feel sorry for the future programmers who will have to fix all the bad code that is produced by cheap programmers. I know from experience how annoying that can be.
So foreigners (a lot of Indians and Asians) come to America for our "superior education". Then they move back and work for much less money than we do and take over our jobs?
And yet the universities insist that diversity is good for us.
The movie industry had record profits last year.
No, I don't have references, but I read it in a news article maybe a few months ago. Google for it. I bet it's there.
I think the big problem with passwords is when you don't use them enough to remember them. If that's the case, then by the time you have to use the password again you've forgotten how you described the inkblot. After 2 months I think the odds are pretty good that you might look at it a little differently (at least enough to change the first letter of ONE of them). In that case the password's lost. If this is to be used for passwords you use every day, then I think people won't have a problem remembering it without the inkblots.
Nice :)
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Why download a zip of multiple results when in many cases just the first result is needed?
But democracy and capitalism cannot coexist so nobody ever raised an eyebrow.
That's a pretty ridiculous statement. You can go on and on about ideals and how you think things should work, but we clearly live in a place that is both democratic and capitalistic by the actual definitions of both of those concepts. Whether it meets your ideal definitions of how a democracy or a capitalist society should work is beside the point.
Microsoft does not put AOL shortcuts on desktops. Microsoft puts MSN shortcuts on its desktops. OEMs might add AOL shortcuts, but that's a deal between AOL and the OEM.
Drum fill would work.
:)
Or *drum hit* (like he said the first time
Hmmm...you may have a point...
I think that could be a good thing. It provides incentive for companies to produce open-source code. They get to develop something for free basically. And then other people get them to develop stuff for free. :)
I kind of like the idea now that I've thought about it.
I was also wondering about the tax status of this new organization. If they ARE tax exempt (I don't know the rules for that, so someone fill me in) could this be just an easy way for AOL to save money? Make part of your company that was non-profit already officially non-profit and then write off all your budget for it as a donation.
I'm not sure what I would think about that. It seems sneaky...but it's good for mozilla...hmmm...i'm torn....
No, actually it's not. A "rimshot" is hitting the drumhead and rim at the same time. It has nothing to do with the little "da-doo crash" thing people do after jokes. Everyone just misuses the word rimshot.
:)
I'm a drummer, I'm not just makin this up.
If you are young single and have no children you obviously value your work very highly.
What? Says who?
It wouldn't do any good to release it for the Zaurus, since the Zaurus's SD slot can only do memory. You can't use other devices. At least last time I checked that was the case...
How long before this is ruled illegal in the US?
Blockbuster also has a similar plan. My brother uses it. So that's at least two pretty large companies who will be looking to invalidate that patent.
So are they gonna just license the top X songs? I, for one, have no interest in the most popular music. I can't stand most popular music. It's uncreative and uninteresting. I do NOT want to pay for access to these crappy songs. So I think it's a pretty bad idea.