how did i know this would end in prostitution, and a reference to chinese girls?
loser.
Re:Refuting Evolution
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"A frantic orthodoxy is not rooted in faith, but in doubt." can be attributed to Reinhold Niebuhr. FYI, 'not' should read 'never', but then I'm nitpicking.
television is an entertainment device and if people are entertained by "culture" then let them.
I suppose there's some validity to this statement, but I think the probblem is the presentation of our culture, not so much its entertainment value. We package things in such a way as to make people think they can't live without all the crap they see on TV, or that there's something wrong with a person if they're not like the guy or girl on show X.
Re:Will Thee Move Thy Horseless Carriage?
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the scary thing is that it's probably easier to stay under radar in this country than outside of it. it also helps that they don't have quite enough money to make them a viable market.
well, i don't think i'm being naive in the respect to which you're referring. i think i'm being naive in assuming that our culture/society is capable of the self-discipline necessary to override something like this.
The Artists and record companies are the minority, the people should have some say.
We do have some say.
Don't buy their records.
This is a market economy- if you want something (or a system surrounding something) to go away, don't support it and it usually will. or am i just being hopelessly naive?
well actually, only when there's a large enough ad market to support a show. this applies in the case of shows like friends, where there's a broad market appeal (and by "broad" i mean "idiot"). this doesn't work as well with shows like family guy, where i suspect something like this would have shown a devoted core of viewers, and probably a slightly larger viewership than originally thought, but in the end the advertiser dollars probably wouldn't have been there (due to the occasionally racy content, etc.). hopefully this makes sense, as i seem to be on one of my ether-induced hallucinations.
come on, give the F/V/B/D line some credit. especially the 34th st. station. the rubber soles on my shoes started to melt down there this morning. good thing i'm wearing a nice wool suit and a tie or all the water in my body might escape!
You're of course assuming that Dell would continue to offer HP printers. But I didn't read the article, so maybe it says as much. Anyway, this isn't about printers exclusively- this is about two organizations that are quickly becoming direct competitors on more than the desktop/server/enteprise markets. I think it makes competitive sense for HP, as they'll probably sell to Dell through another distributor, as someone mentioned higher up the thread.
Don't kid yourself- this is endemic of Western civilization, not just the US. Although arguably the majority of what we consider Western civliziation is US in nature, but I digress.
I don't know if I would draw a love/hate line in such terms, and I'm sure you're generalizing, but there is meat to your statement. Americans have become rather docile, due to media saturation and a general ambivalence which is part and parcel of capitalism. Not that I'm a commie or anything, but few people have perspective on the system in which they live. I strongly recommend reading Erich Fromm's Escape from Freedom, which I'm actually going through right now. It draws on the reformation as a baseline (specifically Luther and Calvin and their systems and the transition from medieval to free market economics) and illustrates how we have the opportunity to be free, but couch ourselves in pursuits that do anything but- i.e. the passive viewing of television, etc. Anyway, I think I'm starting to hallucinate from lack of sleep, so I'll shut up. Read the book if you get a chance.
I would venture to say that they don't necessarily care. Most of the revenue from a show comes from first-run advertising (and to a lesser extent syndication fees), the cost of which isn't based on recordings of shows. They only care if you're watching it when it runs, as its difficult to argue this point (recorded viewings) with advertisers. This is akin to pass-along readership with magazines, etc. - you can only go so far in mesuring this number, at least from the standpoint of direct correlational to ad costs. Anyway, all the other stuff, such as merchandising, is really ancillary to revenue generated from the actual run, although there are probably exceptions somewhere. Sorry, bored and rambling and should be working.
...post his replies verbatim (except for minor HTML formatting) soon after he sends them to us.
Guys, forgetting to close your tags, while technically 'formatting', isn't really an achievement. Seriously though, why aren't these interviews ever formatted properly? Half the time there are at least a few questions that run into the answers...what the hell are we paying you guys for?
In response to you, cockmaster:
1. I'm not
2. If they sell addresses to spammers, why don't I get spammed?
3. Then prove it.
4. If I'm a moron, and I'm your daddy, what does that make you?
5. True, everybody does hate me. But at least I don't have to have sex with my hand, or some kind of synthetic material. Cockmaster.
Gator does inform them -- in a slimy way -- but it does inform them.
This won't necessarily hold in a court of law though- there's a term for this, but I forget it. Essentially though, unless this is very clearly stated and understood by the user (within reason and certain constraints), it's unenforcable. I'd have to check on my girlfriend with the specifics of this (she's in law school), but I do remember this being the case in certain circumstances.
Good points, but would you be willing to concede that opening the floodgates, even if just enough for a trickle, significantly increases the chance of a torrent? I realize that most people can't cut their lives into discrete packages (or we'd all be badass cyborgs like bill leeb, but I digress), but I find it difficult not to do so with issues of government. Objectivity is required in pluralistic socieities, or as much as possible. And we're not all religious or monotheists either....
admittedly i haven't gone through the 6x10^23 posts surrounding this issue, but where is your geekiness in suggesting alternatives? Why hasn't someone suggested the obvious change:
Slashdot Mirror
That was a nice read. Something to smile about. I'm happy to see that we can still help eachother sometimes.
how did i know this would end in prostitution, and a reference to chinese girls?
loser.
"A frantic orthodoxy is not rooted in faith, but in doubt." can be attributed to Reinhold Niebuhr. FYI, 'not' should read 'never', but then I'm nitpicking.
television is an entertainment device and if people are entertained by "culture" then let them.
I suppose there's some validity to this statement, but I think the probblem is the presentation of our culture, not so much its entertainment value. We package things in such a way as to make people think they can't live without all the crap they see on TV, or that there's something wrong with a person if they're not like the guy or girl on show X.
the scary thing is that it's probably easier to stay under radar in this country than outside of it. it also helps that they don't have quite enough money to make them a viable market.
well, i don't think i'm being naive in the respect to which you're referring. i think i'm being naive in assuming that our culture/society is capable of the self-discipline necessary to override something like this.
The Artists and record companies are the minority, the people should have some say.
We do have some say.
Don't buy their records.
This is a market economy- if you want something (or a system surrounding something) to go away, don't support it and it usually will. or am i just being hopelessly naive?
well actually, only when there's a large enough ad market to support a show. this applies in the case of shows like friends, where there's a broad market appeal (and by "broad" i mean "idiot"). this doesn't work as well with shows like family guy, where i suspect something like this would have shown a devoted core of viewers, and probably a slightly larger viewership than originally thought, but in the end the advertiser dollars probably wouldn't have been there (due to the occasionally racy content, etc.). hopefully this makes sense, as i seem to be on one of my ether-induced hallucinations.
oooh! poppin' fresh!
danke herr nelson.
pray tell, what's the name of the book?
come on, give the F/V/B/D line some credit. especially the 34th st. station. the rubber soles on my shoes started to melt down there this morning. good thing i'm wearing a nice wool suit and a tie or all the water in my body might escape!
You're of course assuming that Dell would continue to offer HP printers. But I didn't read the article, so maybe it says as much. Anyway, this isn't about printers exclusively- this is about two organizations that are quickly becoming direct competitors on more than the desktop/server/enteprise markets. I think it makes competitive sense for HP, as they'll probably sell to Dell through another distributor, as someone mentioned higher up the thread.
It's basic business. It happens everywhere.
80 past 10 on February 1st, right? :)
Don't kid yourself- this is endemic of Western civilization, not just the US. Although arguably the majority of what we consider Western civliziation is US in nature, but I digress.
I don't know if I would draw a love/hate line in such terms, and I'm sure you're generalizing, but there is meat to your statement. Americans have become rather docile, due to media saturation and a general ambivalence which is part and parcel of capitalism. Not that I'm a commie or anything, but few people have perspective on the system in which they live. I strongly recommend reading Erich Fromm's Escape from Freedom, which I'm actually going through right now. It draws on the reformation as a baseline (specifically Luther and Calvin and their systems and the transition from medieval to free market economics) and illustrates how we have the opportunity to be free, but couch ourselves in pursuits that do anything but- i.e. the passive viewing of television, etc. Anyway, I think I'm starting to hallucinate from lack of sleep, so I'll shut up. Read the book if you get a chance.
I don't think a pacemaker would -EVER- be hooked up to the internet
You're of course assuming that no one has figured out how to run Apache on a pacemaker. Would bring a whole new meaning to slashdotting...
I would venture to say that they don't necessarily care. Most of the revenue from a show comes from first-run advertising (and to a lesser extent syndication fees), the cost of which isn't based on recordings of shows. They only care if you're watching it when it runs, as its difficult to argue this point (recorded viewings) with advertisers. This is akin to pass-along readership with magazines, etc. - you can only go so far in mesuring this number, at least from the standpoint of direct correlational to ad costs. Anyway, all the other stuff, such as merchandising, is really ancillary to revenue generated from the actual run, although there are probably exceptions somewhere. Sorry, bored and rambling and should be working.
...post his replies verbatim (except for minor HTML formatting) soon after he sends them to us.
Guys, forgetting to close your tags, while technically 'formatting', isn't really an achievement. Seriously though, why aren't these interviews ever formatted properly? Half the time there are at least a few questions that run into the answers...what the hell are we paying you guys for?
You make it sound like we give a damn what the rest of the world thinks. We don't, btw. Especially Europe.
In response to you, cockmaster: 1. I'm not 2. If they sell addresses to spammers, why don't I get spammed? 3. Then prove it. 4. If I'm a moron, and I'm your daddy, what does that make you? 5. True, everybody does hate me. But at least I don't have to have sex with my hand, or some kind of synthetic material. Cockmaster.
god i love slashdot.
for the love of christ, the times does not spam people! there is an obnoxious and incestuous ignorance around here that really has to stop.
Gator does inform them -- in a slimy way -- but it does inform them.
This won't necessarily hold in a court of law though- there's a term for this, but I forget it. Essentially though, unless this is very clearly stated and understood by the user (within reason and certain constraints), it's unenforcable. I'd have to check on my girlfriend with the specifics of this (she's in law school), but I do remember this being the case in certain circumstances.
Who has time to look at $10,800 worth of pr0n?
Taco, some things in life you make time for.
Good points, but would you be willing to concede that opening the floodgates, even if just enough for a trickle, significantly increases the chance of a torrent? I realize that most people can't cut their lives into discrete packages (or we'd all be badass cyborgs like bill leeb, but I digress), but I find it difficult not to do so with issues of government. Objectivity is required in pluralistic socieities, or as much as possible. And we're not all religious or monotheists either....
admittedly i haven't gone through the 6x10^23 posts surrounding this issue, but where is your geekiness in suggesting alternatives? Why hasn't someone suggested the obvious change:
under root ?
as far as most of us are concerned, that's god.