one thing that IS known to effect sperm development at least is heat during development. This corrilation might track closer to fathers that sit for the better part of thier day vs fathers that don't( nurses expected to have random distribution of both types of fathers of thier children? ( did they study male nurses? ) ). It would be interesting to see the data discected by type of engineer ( assuming for instance civil engineers probably sit a little less then electrical engineers.)
"russian components... american components... all made in japan... I'll show you how to fix it. ( flails wildly at components with wrech) This is how we fix things on russian space station. I want to go home. I don't want to do this anymore ( contiues flaing) equipment now begins to work properly and the survivors return home to tell the story.
just an FYI. There ARE still people in the this country ( everyone in my hometown for instance. ) who do not have street address. The ONLY address you can get if you live in the town of Audubon MN. is a P.O. Box. ( of coarse I supposed if someone wants to find you they only have about a 12 block area to search). Still, why should I have to provide the goventment with information that can be used in incriminate me if some bozo steals my car or impresinates me in some other way. Seems like a 5th amendment violation to me. ( not that i don't have the same problem with state id cards.) People should be able to live happy and productive lives with little or no publicly avaible record that they are alive at all. The only people who have any right to know who I am and where I live are.
People I want to. The real problem is we have become a society that trust paper work rather then a society where people trust you because they have personal contact with you.
Regards,
Christopher
you missed an important part. It was one of the first changes made to the constitution.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Seriously, I don't support being harmful to anyone but it is legally irresponsible to add gay and lesbian people to the civil rights codes for a very simple reason. Civil rights laws should not include behaviors.
Right now civil rights codes boil down to this.
Don't discriminate because what people believe. Don't discriminate because of what people look like (your sex being a physical trait as well).
It makes no sense to say "don't discriminate because of how people behave".
People are responsible for their choices and their actions if they are not then we no longer have any need for law whatsoever. (After all why punish or reward someone for an action they are not responsible for?) Now here comes all the people saying homosexuals can't help what they are? I can tell you without a doubt they CAN help what they do.
There is significantly MORE evidence the alcoholism is inherited TENDANCY then there is the homosexuality is an inherited TENDANCY. Should we make it illegal not to hire Alcoholics because of what they do, after all they can't help it?
As has been stated many times there is no way to tell a person who has homosexual feelings from a strait person... unless it is because of something they SAY or DO. It is what they SAY and DO that makes them fit the category of being homosexuals.
Just because somebody always wants to steal something a TENDANCEY doesn't mean they ever will It is only after they repeatedly give into that urge that they become thieves. We call this kleptomania and last time I checked no one was considering adding those people to the civil rights laws either. How is this giving oneself over to strong TENDANCY in kleptomania any different they giving oneself over to the TENDANCY of alcoholism or the TENDANCY of homosexuality? It isn't the only difference is moral and physical effects of disease the person suffers from.
Civil rights laws dictate hiring practices. Every employer should have the freedom to not hire people who are doing things that are immoral according the EMPLOYERS judgment. They should have the right not to associate themselves and force their customers to associate with people whom they believe have a poor moral character.
we are hard wired to fear?
May I offer a counter example?
I am not afraid of death, mine or the species. I expect and accept that both are inevitable and are good things in the end. My reason I believe in God
and believe that death is only a transition and very little of importance is really lost.
Since I am a counter example, your claim for genetic requirement is disproved. Your genetics don not require you to do or believe ANYTHING. They may disposition you but they do not require it.
Just thought I would point that out, because so many people go around claiming they are not responsible for what they do because they are "born that way". You can be born many ways, but you are still responsible for what you choose to do. I choose not to fear this. So may answer is to "Scary stuff" is not really.
Each of the many eggs is a viable human fetus.
destroying them is almost the same thing as an abortion, minus the many ill effects on the mother and to many religious people is of a nearly identical moral character. Of coarse the real moral issues is that they should NEVER have been brought together that way in the first place, ie in vitro fertilization of human eggs should be illegal. That however is considered by many a more difficult battle to fight so publicly people go after the "bigger fish" of abortion.
Microsofts documentation on sockets is very misleading. If you want to find out how misleading create an array of sockets each open on a different port. Pass the array to another thread within your program and then try to read something from one of the sockets. It won't work because of the way that windows handles messaging and the fact that socket objects have a message queue an therefore cannot be passed between threads. I know from painful expierence.
Here is an idea I have kicked around. I don't have time to do this myself but maybe someone else can pick up the thread. I say. port ALL of KDE to the windows world ( look and feel included). Give microsoft users a REAL choice. Gnome or KDE or Windows Native ect. The point being if you are already using KDE as your windows manager then the OS is nothing more then so much comodety. it is just the stuff that runs the underlying hardware.
So if we can get users away from both windows apps ( by having better replacements ) and the windows ( look and feel ). Why not. I mean aren't those the three areas of contention when windows users switch. 1 look and feel ( getting things done ) 2) apps 3) hardware.
FOSS can only do so much about hardware, but by offering the user different ( look and feel ) options and assuming apps are equal the kernal underneath loses alot of relavance. Most users are not concered about weather they are running windows/ BSD or AIX if the look and feel is the same as what they are used to and LIKE and the apps they are used to are all there.
I propose I simple law. Any corporation that wants to do business in the united states has to follow United states workforce law for all it's employees. If the conditions are unsafe or the employess paid below minimum wage you may not sell it here buddy.
This law would have 4 effects. 1) it would greatly raise the quality of life throught the developing world. 2) It would make certain people were being paid a reasonable wage for what they made ( far more then reasonble in some contries where our minimum wage would be something sort of like paying 90$ an hour but that would fix its self as 1 equalized. 4) It would make american companies and thus americans VERY popular with foreign citzens thus extending our world influence and power ( as good or bad as this may be).
There would only be 1 downshots massive price increases for american consumers. On the other hand there would be many jobs that would not be outsourced anymore.
Just a thought.
MMM... just wondering outload. But doesn't lying. even for those who are deciving themselves as they lie require an act of creativity? My suspicion would be the increased activity is seen because the person is in the act of actively creating the lie. This technique does not seem like it would be useful to prove the person is telling the truth, but might be useful to prove they are not Intentionally telling a lie about an unexpected question.
I believe that Judeo/Christian thought goes something like this. Although it has different hues depending on denomination.
We ( human beings ) are the only creatures on earth that are capable of really doing evil. We can choose to disobey God and attempt to oppose His will or desire for us. No other creature is capable of doing so. All other creatures simply are what they are and do what God intends them to do. It is a persons decision to be without God that the all loving God chooses to respect. Being without God after death IS hell. No other creature is given the ability to reject God so they are neither able to Merit heaven or it's absence. I think most people would at least agree that we are far more capable of being evil then any other creature on the planet. If , of coarse, you agree that such a thing as evil exists. Which , first requires you to believe there is a Right and a Wrong. ect.
Could this proliferation of poker-playing bots undermine the almost $1 billion online gambling industry?"
Fact- gambling games are exercise in statistics
Fact- EVERY game is worked out mathematically to GUARANTEE the house will profit.
Fact- some individuals may win big but the money they win come from all the other people who lose NOT the house who scrapes off a percentage either way.
In other words. If you had THE best BOTS all playing with OPTIMAL formulas and foresight some of them would win and some would lose but the HOUSE would still be the guaranteed a profit. So the answer to the above question is NO. Worse case is it might cut into their profit some , but it would certainly not stop them from making mega bucks.
Room temp from a science perspective usually means you have kept it between 65 F and 75 F. That is the most often reported range of comfort for most human beings. Thus the it is the temperature range of most rooms.
There is a definition here that coincides with my memory.
http://composite.about.com/library/glossary/a/bl de f-a157.htm
An adhesive that sets in the temperature range 20 to 30C.
The point of being salaried is that if something should happen that requires you to work say 45 or 50 hours one week you do it without complaint. On the other hand your employer should not have a problem if you want to work 38 hour or even 35 once in a while so long as you work is done.
As to the broadband issue. Is it something you would buy anway? if it is they what are you complaining about use it for work and play and you are out nothing you would not have been if yo didn't use it for work. If you would not have paid for it yourself for your own use then don't pay for it. It is your compainies responsibility to give you the materials and equipment needed to do the job they want done. If they don't they can't expect the work to be done.
Oh really, how do you know what is the cause of human intuition? Last time I checked it was an unexplained phenomena. Maybe we will understand it better when we have some idea how we store memories, but even that is almost unknown and very poorly understood. Intuition could be caused by all kinds of things we don't understand perhaps our brains have a relation to quantum physics that allows us to actually have some feeling as to what will happen in the future. My point is no one really knows... or even comes close to having an idea. You are stating a specific theory as if it is a fact and that is always dangerous. Or at least somewhat silly as many people who believed the earth was flat and the humors of the body had to be in balance for health could attest to if they were still alive.
My uncle. A local politician is fond of the saying. "Law is like sausage, anyone who likes either should never watch them being made".
Whoever says justice has nothing to do with politics, or claims law and its use is not always someone enforcing their morality on someone else, needs to take a look at this case.
As someone who is currently employed writing Microsoft software I can tell you that their documentation is not all that easy to read. It also often times contains self contradictory statements. It also sometimes contains outright lies because the documentation people talk to the marketing people before they finish their docs from what I can tell. I haven't done nearly as much Linux programming, but with the exception of the fact that their documentation can be written in a somewhat obscure fashion. If it is documented at all the documentation is usually as good as Microsoft's or better. Don't be fooled into thinking Microsoft documents everything they do either, especially their apps. I think the main reason their are so many Microsoft developers is because more corporations employ them. If you know anyone interested in hiring someone as an application developer for Linux systems let me know. Oh they need to be in the panama city Florida area too, and start me at about 70 k. for 5 years windows experience with at home Linux background.
you can still get to all those sites. You just have to REMEMBER the ip instead of depending on the computer to look it up for you;). TCP/IP was designed to have not centeral point of failure and still does it's job well. DNS was not quite designed in such a way.
>>I mean that You can't strip someone of knowledge
>Indeed but if you are fabricating data you are proving that you didn't have that knowledge in the first place.
having seen this sequence in several places may I point out that falsifying results means the person DID NOT learn everything the university was tiring to teach. Universities teach people NOT to falsify results AND to be "good/ Moral" scientists. That is how many of them view there job like it or not. Since he was not a "good" scientist he obviously did not learn all the lessons the university intended to teach.
This is an interesting augment, but why then to both the medical boards and the bar exam require that you first complete your degree before taking them. If they are sufficient in and of them selves to prove you qualified there should be no need for the to discriminate against the self educated.
The word "Doctor" or "doctorate" assocatied with a degree of PHD is latin for "teacher". Is a person a good teacher who lies about what he is teaching the public? Also, one should consider that even though they claim to be secularized many of the procedures and attitudes of colleges in the united states and other areas still reflect there roots as religious institutions, as all universities at one time were.
where? I know there are many people in the world who disagree with me, but IMHO if it doesn't have a recognizable meter and rhyme scheme it isn't a poem. It may be very creative prose or an interesting word salad, but just simply isn't a poem. I think it is defining other then this one that are partially responsible for the loss of interest in poetry that has been seen in recent years. Removing all the discipline and skill from poetry and making it little more then a word scrambling contest. How long would people continue to have interest in watching professional soccer ( football ) if we eliminated the score board and the goal posts, so it required no particular skill or even a basic knowledge of a structure to play the game. Also, remember no one now wins or loses and there is no player better then another no matter what they might do because there are no rules. Poetry is a discipline and there are different forms, but rhyme and rhythm are the two required elements.where? I know there are many people in the world who disagree with me, but IMHO if it doesn't have a recoginzable metter and rhyme scheme it isn't a poem. It may be very creative prose or an intersting word salad, but just simply isn't a poem. I think it is defining other then this one that are partially responsible for the loss of interest in poetry that has been seen in recent years. Removing all the discipline and skill from poetry and making it little more then a word scrambling contest. How long would people continue to have intrest in watching professional soccer ( football ) if we eliminated the score board and the goal posts, so it required no particular skill or even a basic knowledge of a structure to play the game. Also, remember no one now wins or loses and there is no player better then another no matter what they might do because there are no rules. Poetry is a discipline and there are different forms, but rhyme and rhythem are the two required elements.
I live in an area that is also famous for UFO sightings. The western panhandle of florida.
Funny thing is I also live near two large airforces bases. One that has a large research and development staff and the other that specializes in co-vert ops and secret equipment.
-- Seriously just becouse it is unidentified and flies doesn't mean people didn't make it.
WTL code has been avialible out on web sights and in Windows documentation for at least 3 years now ( I know because I used it in one of my apps) and the liscense for it was pretty much open source ( ie freely distributable / downloadedable ) all that time. Actually they tried to squash the thing for a while. It has been mostly user supported all that time because it is code that "accidentally" escaped from thier labs. Also, WTL is a alternative to using MFC's which is the technology they were pushing at the time. I think what they are doing is tring to get some free publicity in the OSS world by publishing something as OSS that already was. Either that or someone in microsoft who likes WTL wants to see it kept alive and sees this as the best way.
one thing that IS known to effect sperm development at least is heat during development. This corrilation might track closer to fathers that sit for the better part of thier day vs fathers that don't( nurses expected to have random distribution of both types of fathers of thier children? ( did they study male nurses? ) ). It would be interesting to see the data discected by type of engineer ( assuming for instance civil engineers probably sit a little less then electrical engineers.)
"russian components... american components ... all made in japan... I'll show you how to fix it. ( flails wildly at components with wrech) This is how we fix things on russian space station. I want to go home. I don't want to do this anymore ( contiues flaing) equipment now begins to work properly and the survivors return home to tell the story.
just an FYI. There ARE still people in the this country ( everyone in my hometown for instance. ) who do not have street address. The ONLY address you can get if you live in the town of Audubon MN. is a P.O. Box. ( of coarse I supposed if someone wants to find you they only have about a 12 block area to search). Still, why should I have to provide the goventment with information that can be used in incriminate me if some bozo steals my car or impresinates me in some other way. Seems like a 5th amendment violation to me. ( not that i don't have the same problem with state id cards.) People should be able to live happy and productive lives with little or no publicly avaible record that they are alive at all. The only people who have any right to know who I am and where I live are. People I want to. The real problem is we have become a society that trust paper work rather then a society where people trust you because they have personal contact with you. Regards, Christopher
you missed an important part. It was one of the first changes made to the constitution. Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
pun intended.
... unless it is because of something they SAY or DO.
Seriously, I don't support being harmful to anyone but it is legally irresponsible to add gay and lesbian people to the civil rights codes for a very simple reason. Civil rights laws should not include behaviors.
Right now civil rights codes boil down to this.
Don't discriminate because what people believe.
Don't discriminate because of what people look like (your sex being a physical trait as well).
It makes no sense to say "don't discriminate because of how people behave".
People are responsible for their choices and their actions if they are not then we no longer have any need for law whatsoever. (After all why punish or reward someone for an action they are not responsible for?) Now here comes all the people saying homosexuals can't help what they are? I can tell you without a doubt they CAN help what they do.
There is significantly MORE evidence the alcoholism is inherited TENDANCY then there is the homosexuality is an inherited TENDANCY. Should we make it illegal not to hire Alcoholics because of what they do, after all they can't help it?
As has been stated many times there is no way to tell a person who has homosexual feelings from a strait person
It is what they SAY and DO that makes them fit the category of being homosexuals.
Just because somebody always wants to steal something a TENDANCEY doesn't mean they ever will It is only after they repeatedly give into that urge that they become thieves. We call this kleptomania and last time I checked no one was considering adding those people to the civil rights laws either. How is this giving oneself over to strong TENDANCY in kleptomania any different they giving oneself over to the TENDANCY of alcoholism or the TENDANCY of homosexuality? It isn't the only difference is moral and physical effects of disease the person suffers from.
Civil rights laws dictate hiring practices. Every employer should have the freedom to not hire people who are doing things that are immoral according the EMPLOYERS judgment. They should have the right not to associate themselves and force their customers to associate with people whom they believe have a poor moral character.
we are hard wired to fear? May I offer a counter example? I am not afraid of death, mine or the species. I expect and accept that both are inevitable and are good things in the end. My reason I believe in God and believe that death is only a transition and very little of importance is really lost. Since I am a counter example, your claim for genetic requirement is disproved. Your genetics don not require you to do or believe ANYTHING. They may disposition you but they do not require it. Just thought I would point that out, because so many people go around claiming they are not responsible for what they do because they are "born that way". You can be born many ways, but you are still responsible for what you choose to do. I choose not to fear this. So may answer is to "Scary stuff" is not really.
Each of the many eggs is a viable human fetus. destroying them is almost the same thing as an abortion, minus the many ill effects on the mother and to many religious people is of a nearly identical moral character. Of coarse the real moral issues is that they should NEVER have been brought together that way in the first place, ie in vitro fertilization of human eggs should be illegal. That however is considered by many a more difficult battle to fight so publicly people go after the "bigger fish" of abortion.
Microsofts documentation on sockets is very misleading. If you want to find out how misleading create an array of sockets each open on a different port. Pass the array to another thread within your program and then try to read something from one of the sockets. It won't work because of the way that windows handles messaging and the fact that socket objects have a message queue an therefore cannot be passed between threads. I know from painful expierence.
Here is an idea I have kicked around. I don't have time to do this myself but maybe someone else can pick up the thread. I say. port ALL of KDE to the windows world ( look and feel included). Give microsoft users a REAL choice. Gnome or KDE or Windows Native ect. The point being if you are already using KDE as your windows manager then the OS is nothing more then so much comodety. it is just the stuff that runs the underlying hardware. So if we can get users away from both windows apps ( by having better replacements ) and the windows ( look and feel ). Why not. I mean aren't those the three areas of contention when windows users switch. 1 look and feel ( getting things done ) 2) apps 3) hardware. FOSS can only do so much about hardware, but by offering the user different ( look and feel ) options and assuming apps are equal the kernal underneath loses alot of relavance. Most users are not concered about weather they are running windows/ BSD or AIX if the look and feel is the same as what they are used to and LIKE and the apps they are used to are all there.
I propose I simple law. Any corporation that wants to do business in the united states has to follow United states workforce law for all it's employees. If the conditions are unsafe or the employess paid below minimum wage you may not sell it here buddy. This law would have 4 effects. 1) it would greatly raise the quality of life throught the developing world. 2) It would make certain people were being paid a reasonable wage for what they made ( far more then reasonble in some contries where our minimum wage would be something sort of like paying 90$ an hour but that would fix its self as 1 equalized. 4) It would make american companies and thus americans VERY popular with foreign citzens thus extending our world influence and power ( as good or bad as this may be). There would only be 1 downshots massive price increases for american consumers. On the other hand there would be many jobs that would not be outsourced anymore. Just a thought.
MMM... just wondering outload. But doesn't lying. even for those who are deciving themselves as they lie require an act of creativity? My suspicion would be the increased activity is seen because the person is in the act of actively creating the lie. This technique does not seem like it would be useful to prove the person is telling the truth, but might be useful to prove they are not Intentionally telling a lie about an unexpected question.
I believe that Judeo/Christian thought goes something like this. Although it has different hues depending on denomination. We ( human beings ) are the only creatures on earth that are capable of really doing evil. We can choose to disobey God and attempt to oppose His will or desire for us. No other creature is capable of doing so. All other creatures simply are what they are and do what God intends them to do. It is a persons decision to be without God that the all loving God chooses to respect. Being without God after death IS hell. No other creature is given the ability to reject God so they are neither able to Merit heaven or it's absence. I think most people would at least agree that we are far more capable of being evil then any other creature on the planet. If , of coarse, you agree that such a thing as evil exists. Which , first requires you to believe there is a Right and a Wrong. ect.
Could this proliferation of poker-playing bots undermine the almost $1 billion online gambling industry?" Fact- gambling games are exercise in statistics Fact- EVERY game is worked out mathematically to GUARANTEE the house will profit. Fact- some individuals may win big but the money they win come from all the other people who lose NOT the house who scrapes off a percentage either way. In other words. If you had THE best BOTS all playing with OPTIMAL formulas and foresight some of them would win and some would lose but the HOUSE would still be the guaranteed a profit. So the answer to the above question is NO. Worse case is it might cut into their profit some , but it would certainly not stop them from making mega bucks.
Room temp from a science perspective usually means you have kept it between 65 F and 75 F. That is the most often reported range of comfort for most human beings. Thus the it is the temperature range of most rooms.
l de f-a157.htm
There is a definition here that coincides with my memory.
http://composite.about.com/library/glossary/a/b
An adhesive that sets in the temperature range 20 to 30C.
The point of being salaried is that if something should happen that requires you to work say 45 or 50 hours one week you do it without complaint. On the other hand your employer should not have a problem if you want to work 38 hour or even 35 once in a while so long as you work is done.
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As to the broadband issue. Is it something you would buy anway? if it is they what are you complaining about use it for work and play and you are out nothing you would not have been if yo didn't use it for work. If you would not have paid for it yourself for your own use then don't pay for it. It is your compainies responsibility to give you the materials and equipment needed to do the job they want done. If they don't they can't expect the work to be done
Oh really, how do you know what is the cause of human intuition? Last time I checked it was an unexplained phenomena. Maybe we will understand it better when we have some idea how we store memories, but even that is almost unknown and very poorly understood. Intuition could be caused by all kinds of things we don't understand perhaps our brains have a relation to quantum physics that allows us to actually have some feeling as to what will happen in the future. My point is no one really knows ... or even comes close to having an idea. You are stating a specific theory as if it is a fact and that is always dangerous. Or at least somewhat silly as many people who believed the earth was flat and the humors of the body had to be in balance for health could attest to if they were still alive.
My uncle. A local politician is fond of the saying. "Law is like sausage, anyone who likes either should never watch them being made". Whoever says justice has nothing to do with politics, or claims law and its use is not always someone enforcing their morality on someone else, needs to take a look at this case.
As someone who is currently employed writing Microsoft software I can tell you that their documentation is not all that easy to read. It also often times contains self contradictory statements. It also sometimes contains outright lies because the documentation people talk to the marketing people before they finish their docs from what I can tell. I haven't done nearly as much Linux programming, but with the exception of the fact that their documentation can be written in a somewhat obscure fashion. If it is documented at all the documentation is usually as good as Microsoft's or better. Don't be fooled into thinking Microsoft documents everything they do either, especially their apps. I think the main reason their are so many Microsoft developers is because more corporations employ them. If you know anyone interested in hiring someone as an application developer for Linux systems let me know. Oh they need to be in the panama city Florida area too, and start me at about 70 k. for 5 years windows experience with at home Linux background.
you can still get to all those sites. You just have to REMEMBER the ip instead of depending on the computer to look it up for you ;). TCP/IP was designed to have not centeral point of failure and still does it's job well. DNS was not quite designed in such a way.
>>I mean that You can't strip someone of knowledge >Indeed but if you are fabricating data you are proving that you didn't have that knowledge in the first place. having seen this sequence in several places may I point out that falsifying results means the person DID NOT learn everything the university was tiring to teach. Universities teach people NOT to falsify results AND to be "good/ Moral" scientists. That is how many of them view there job like it or not. Since he was not a "good" scientist he obviously did not learn all the lessons the university intended to teach.
This is an interesting augment, but why then to both the medical boards and the bar exam require that you first complete your degree before taking them. If they are sufficient in and of them selves to prove you qualified there should be no need for the to discriminate against the self educated.
The word "Doctor" or "doctorate" assocatied with a degree of PHD is latin for "teacher". Is a person a good teacher who lies about what he is teaching the public? Also, one should consider that even though they claim to be secularized many of the procedures and attitudes of colleges in the united states and other areas still reflect there roots as religious institutions, as all universities at one time were.
where? I know there are many people in the world who disagree with me, but IMHO if it doesn't have a recognizable meter and rhyme scheme it isn't a poem. It may be very creative prose or an interesting word salad, but just simply isn't a poem. I think it is defining other then this one that are partially responsible for the loss of interest in poetry that has been seen in recent years. Removing all the discipline and skill from poetry and making it little more then a word scrambling contest. How long would people continue to have interest in watching professional soccer ( football ) if we eliminated the score board and the goal posts, so it required no particular skill or even a basic knowledge of a structure to play the game. Also, remember no one now wins or loses and there is no player better then another no matter what they might do because there are no rules. Poetry is a discipline and there are different forms, but rhyme and rhythm are the two required elements.where? I know there are many people in the world who disagree with me, but IMHO if it doesn't have a recoginzable metter and rhyme scheme it isn't a poem. It may be very creative prose or an intersting word salad, but just simply isn't a poem. I think it is defining other then this one that are partially responsible for the loss of interest in poetry that has been seen in recent years. Removing all the discipline and skill from poetry and making it little more then a word scrambling contest. How long would people continue to have intrest in watching professional soccer ( football ) if we eliminated the score board and the goal posts, so it required no particular skill or even a basic knowledge of a structure to play the game. Also, remember no one now wins or loses and there is no player better then another no matter what they might do because there are no rules. Poetry is a discipline and there are different forms, but rhyme and rhythem are the two required elements.
I live in an area that is also famous for UFO sightings. The western panhandle of florida. Funny thing is I also live near two large airforces bases. One that has a large research and development staff and the other that specializes in co-vert ops and secret equipment. -- Seriously just becouse it is unidentified and flies doesn't mean people didn't make it.
WTL code has been avialible out on web sights and in Windows documentation for at least 3 years now ( I know because I used it in one of my apps) and the liscense for it was pretty much open source ( ie freely distributable / downloadedable ) all that time. Actually they tried to squash the thing for a while. It has been mostly user supported all that time because it is code that "accidentally" escaped from thier labs. Also, WTL is a alternative to using MFC's which is the technology they were pushing at the time. I think what they are doing is tring to get some free publicity in the OSS world by publishing something as OSS that already was. Either that or someone in microsoft who likes WTL wants to see it kept alive and sees this as the best way.