They mentioned that they're green because the don't use freon. Great. Most compressor based heat pumps have used something greener than freon for years.
AFIAK, compressor based heat pumps are still WAY more efficient than a peltier. So if you replace a cooling gas with a 400% increase in power usage... You lose?
Doubtful... I'm sure the support agreement will only include those parts of the distribution which Oracle deems to be a requirement for Oracle's product. MySQL clearly doesn't fall into that category. My guess is that only a small subset of the full RedHat distro will be covered.
Hate to tell you pal, but it doesn't matter what the currency is backed by; there will always be inflation or monetary fluctuation. Ever seen the price history on gold?
Fact is, 2% is historically VERY low inflation.
More to the point, though, in a fast paced field like technology, part of what the company is paying you to do is keep up with the field, ie. become more skilled. If you're not training on the state of the art, you're not being a professional, and don't deserve a raise.
Yes, electronic equipment has gotten significantly cheaper in the past 20 years, but the video game industry has also grown significantly. I'd be willing to bet that the demand for video games and thier consoles has gone up far more than the additional 33% inflation adjusted price increase.
I have tried to export files from OO to MS Word at work, as part of my own little open-source advocacy project... It works well for simple files, but as soon as you try to convert a more complex file, such as a user's manual, with images, multiple columns, headers, footers, etc..., the deficiencies of the filter becomes quite apparent.
OO is a great program, but as far as MS Office inter-operability, it's not quite ready for prime-time.
Maybe Microsoft just wants a peek at the code SCO claims has been stolen by Linux. While I understand that M$ owned all or part of this code in the 1980's, maybe they want to see what has changed since they sold it off.
If the M$ lawyers think that SCO has a real case, they'll buy the IP and take over the lawsuits that SCO has been grumbling about... They will probably make little, if any, profit from the IP and lawsuits directly, but if they can manage to hurt one or more of the major distros, it could be enough to make some of the major consumers of high-end server OS's think twice about using Linux in the future.
While I don't claim to know anything about the portions of code that SCO claims have been stolen, and IANAL, perhaps now is the time for the developers/maintainers of the affected packages to reexamine the code, just to be sure. If the code is based on SCO, it is probably rather old, and may need attention anyway. There's no need to admit any liability, but if the code is no longer recognizably 'SCOish' it may be easier to claim that there is no claim...
Linus recommends a version of gcc in the README file included with the linux source. If you don't have this version, the documentation in the recommended version of gcc should tell you if you need to upgrade your libc. This is not a difficult procedure, but it is important to follow the instructions.
From the kernel 2.4.20 README file:
Make sure you have gcc 2.95.3 available. gcc 2.91.66 (egcs-1.1.2) may also work but is not as safe, and *gcc 2.7.2.3 is no longer supported*. Also remember to upgrade your binutils package (for as/ld/nm and company) if necessary. For more information, refer to./Documentation/Changes.
Now, why on earth would anyone think that it's either of thier faults that the new gcc won't compile the kernel. Linus has told you that it probably won't...
Users don't WANT entirely abstract systems, They don't care what is actually going on. They just want thier computer to work well enough that they can do thier job.
Walk up to twenty people on the street, and ask them how much memory thier computer has. I'll bet over half won't know, and a quarter will be confused between memory and disk space.
Yes, more and more people are beginning to understand computers, but the vast majority do it out of need, and not love. They need to use the computer for work, and know only what is needed for them to do thier work. They think thier hard drive is the large beige box on the floor next to them, they don't know the difference between two partitions and two drives, and the certainly don't know how to access a network share if it isn't mapped into 'My Computer'.
The funny thing is, they don't care, either. I think they may be right, though. Though computers have, in many ways, enabled our society to progress much faster than they would have been able to without them, they have also dramatically complicated the lives of people who have other things to worry about. The information hiding employed by Microsoft is silly to those of us who know what a computer is, and aren't afraid, but is very important to the average accountant, secretary, manager, lawyer, doctor, etc...
Maybe it is incredibly naive to think that patching MS software will ever result in a 'truly' secure system, but as long as there are vunerablities published, someone is probably writing an exploit. If I'm using MS, I'd better do my best to keep up with the patches; I don't really have any other choice.
Disclaimer: Yes, Linux is better. I use it at home. At work, it's not an option.
I have a SX1040B, and between the filter and "positive pressure" airflow in the case, it stays remarkably clean... A smart way to accomplish positive pressure is to use "smart fans", (you know, the ones that self-regulate thier speed) for exhaust, and standard fans for intake. That way, the intake fans are always pushing X amount of air, and the exhaust fans are pulling just enough to keep the case cool.. Works great, easy to do,...
My roommate has one, and it seems to work pretty well, when it's clean... If you havn't seem them, they don't have filters, they just accumulate crap on a set of metal plates. If you have a lot of dust, smoke, or pet hair, get ready to clean the bastard every day.... Not worth the price tag, but it does work fairly well.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the topic about how over-expensive dual proc systems are? I put up one option for a cheap solution. If you've got a better one, great! I priced out an entry level dual proc system that would be aaffordable to most people. You priced out a really high end system; is there any wonder that yourss costs more? You may not have a compeling need to to upgrade to a 2X2 GHz system, but if you were running 2x400MHz as your main system, it might be more attractive to you.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you really ought to take a trip over to Dell... If you look here you'll see that you can get a dual capable workstation for under $1000!! Now, I don't know what you consider reasonable, but add in another Xeon, and you get a dual proc system for $1100; that seems eminantly reasonable to me. I hate to sound like a Dell ad, but you really have no reason not to upgrade, if all you're waiting for is affordable SMP. Sure, the system listed could use some more RAM, but RAM is cheap. I'd be willing to bet you can add enough stuff to make you happy for less than $1500. Sub-$1000 systems are nice and all, but for a niche like dual proc workstations, $1500 seems pretty cheap to me.
It seems to me that > 4GB memory is expensive regardless of platform. Until very recently, I was an 'average college student', and there's no way that I would have been able to drop the cash for 4GB RAM.....(~US$1200, for the modules alone)
I realize that there are other benefits to a 64-bit processor, but it seems to me that the memory limit isn't something that 'the average college student' is likely to run into.
Last time I checked, you were allowed to use Microsoft products AND read Slashdot....
It's comments like these that frighten average people away from Linux. The 'RTFM' and 'Bomb Redmond' attitudes have got to go, or Linux will rot. Linux-nazis are probably more harmful to the promotion of Linux than any of it's technical deficiencies. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of Linux, and it's come a long way, but the aggressive power trip of some linux zealots makes being a linux newbie really suck.
In addition to the added cost, CISC processors are not as well suited to large amounts of cache as RISC chips. Of course, it helps, but the added performance is much smaller than the boost that a Sparc gets for doubling the cache. AMD is just trying to squeeze a few more months out of the Athlon architecture while waiting for Hammer.
IMHO, this chip looks to be a flop. The added cache didn't really help enough, and the PR numbers seem too high for the benchmark scores. If I were in the market for a state-of-the-art PC, I'd either wait for Hammer or just get Intel.
As many others have clearly pointed out, there are significant problems with this system as an anonymous p2p, internet backup. Primarily, your data is scattered out there, and there's no way to know if you can get it back, and you can be sure that it will take a long-ass time to download 200Gb when you need to restore. Also consider that someone will have to provide enough space.
This would be very useful for smaller quantities of critical data (Say, 100MB) Reserve 400MB on your drive, for other people's stuff, and store yours on four people's drives. You'd have added insurance that you'd be able to get it back, and
with the smaller investment of space, potentially more users. The storage algorithm would be fairly complex, involving a mad amount of handshaking with the remote storage computers, to be sure that your stuff is still out there, but I think it could be done.
EVERYTHING can be done with the GUI - and better than in Windows.
Then perhaps you can help me out... I've been looking for a good GUI to configure iptables. I use a linux box as a router for my home network, and have been having a hell of a time with the configuration tools I've found. They've either not worked at all, or the resulting configurations have had odd quirks, like 'forgetting' which ports were supposed to be left open and not functioning when used with dhcp. I've resorted to using a floppy distro (Coyote) becuase I've been able to get things working properly with it.
The problem has been that I can't set up Apache, MySQL, or sendmail from a floppy, all of which I'd like to try. I too am using windows as my primary computing environment, but I'm using linux as a firewall/router, to try to avoid the worms that are out there. I'd also like to route all of my mail through linux, so that I can pre-filter the spam. I see this as using the two OS's for thier strengths. Windows is typically easier to use, from day to day, whereas linux, once properly configured, is a wonderful tool for all sorts of slightly esoteric crap.
I'm currently in my senior year of engineering school. As one of our requirements, we must take a course in Technical Communication, which is basicly the art of writing memos and proposals. I wasn't really looking forward to the class, but I was ok with an easy class before graduation. Well... The technical communications instructor writes in chat speak. Her communication skills are ok, but I would expect her to teach by example, yet every one of her e-mails to the class has used u->you, r->are, etc. This is a college instructor in technical communication, and she can't even remember when to use proper grammar!!
That's not a particularly flattering comparison. Microsoft did a couple of things right with WinXP, but WinME was a huge flop. I've never had so many problems with an OS; the registry was a horrid mess, and ended up corrupt at least once a week. I ended up reformating and going back to Win98SE. Hopefully, 10.2 isn't as poorly tested as ME was.
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They mentioned that they're green because the don't use freon. Great. Most compressor based heat pumps have used something greener than freon for years. AFIAK, compressor based heat pumps are still WAY more efficient than a peltier. So if you replace a cooling gas with a 400% increase in power usage... You lose?
Doubtful... I'm sure the support agreement will only include those parts of the distribution which Oracle deems to be a requirement for Oracle's product. MySQL clearly doesn't fall into that category. My guess is that only a small subset of the full RedHat distro will be covered.
Hate to tell you pal, but it doesn't matter what the currency is backed by; there will always be inflation or monetary fluctuation. Ever seen the price history on gold? Fact is, 2% is historically VERY low inflation. More to the point, though, in a fast paced field like technology, part of what the company is paying you to do is keep up with the field, ie. become more skilled. If you're not training on the state of the art, you're not being a professional, and don't deserve a raise.
Inflation plays a large part in this.
s the original NES opened up at $159 in 1985. Using the Inflation Calculator http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ that equates to $282 in 2005 dollars.
According to http://www.usedgames.com/nintendo/nintendo.htm#ne
Yes, electronic equipment has gotten significantly cheaper in the past 20 years, but the video game industry has also grown significantly. I'd be willing to bet that the demand for video games and thier consoles has gone up far more than the additional 33% inflation adjusted price increase.
I'm hoping this was supposed to be funny... Otherwise, you're WAY overpaid. Linux 9.0? LOL
I have tried to export files from OO to MS Word at work, as part of my own little open-source advocacy project... It works well for simple files, but as soon as you try to convert a more complex file, such as a user's manual, with images, multiple columns, headers, footers, etc..., the deficiencies of the filter becomes quite apparent.
OO is a great program, but as far as MS Office inter-operability, it's not quite ready for prime-time.
Maybe Microsoft just wants a peek at the code SCO claims has been stolen by Linux. While I understand that M$ owned all or part of this code in the 1980's, maybe they want to see what has changed since they sold it off.
If the M$ lawyers think that SCO has a real case, they'll buy the IP and take over the lawsuits that SCO has been grumbling about... They will probably make little, if any, profit from the IP and lawsuits directly, but if they can manage to hurt one or more of the major distros, it could be enough to make some of the major consumers of high-end server OS's think twice about using Linux in the future.
While I don't claim to know anything about the portions of code that SCO claims have been stolen, and IANAL, perhaps now is the time for the developers/maintainers of the affected packages to reexamine the code, just to be sure. If the code is based on SCO, it is probably rather old, and may need attention anyway. There's no need to admit any liability, but if the code is no longer recognizably 'SCOish' it may be easier to claim that there is no claim...
From the Linux Kernel HOWTO:
./Documentation/Changes.
5.4. What version of gcc and libc do I need?
Linus recommends a version of gcc in the README file included with the linux source. If you don't have this version, the documentation in the recommended version of gcc should tell you if you need to upgrade your libc. This is not a difficult procedure, but it is important to follow the instructions.
From the kernel 2.4.20 README file:
Make sure you have gcc 2.95.3 available. gcc 2.91.66 (egcs-1.1.2) may also work but is not as safe, and *gcc 2.7.2.3 is no longer supported*.
Also remember to upgrade your binutils package (for as/ld/nm and company) if necessary. For more information, refer to
Now, why on earth would anyone think that it's either of thier faults that the new gcc won't compile the kernel. Linus has told you that it probably won't...
Users don't WANT entirely abstract systems, They don't care what is actually going on. They just want thier computer to work well enough that they can do thier job.
Walk up to twenty people on the street, and ask them how much memory thier computer has. I'll bet over half won't know, and a quarter will be confused between memory and disk space.
Yes, more and more people are beginning to understand computers, but the vast majority do it out of need, and not love. They need to use the computer for work, and know only what is needed for them to do thier work. They think thier hard drive is the large beige box on the floor next to them, they don't know the difference between two partitions and two drives, and the certainly don't know how to access a network share if it isn't mapped into 'My Computer'.
The funny thing is, they don't care, either. I think they may be right, though. Though computers have, in many ways, enabled our society to progress much faster than they would have been able to without them, they have also dramatically complicated the lives of people who have other things to worry about. The information hiding employed by Microsoft is silly to those of us who know what a computer is, and aren't afraid, but is very important to the average accountant, secretary, manager, lawyer, doctor, etc...
And it ain't broke?!?
Maybe it is incredibly naive to think that patching MS software will ever result in a 'truly' secure system, but as long as there are vunerablities published, someone is probably writing an exploit. If I'm using MS, I'd better do my best to keep up with the patches; I don't really have any other choice.
Disclaimer: Yes, Linux is better. I use it at home. At work, it's not an option.
I have a SX1040B, and between the filter and "positive pressure" airflow in the case, it stays remarkably clean... A smart way to accomplish positive pressure is to use "smart fans", (you know, the ones that self-regulate thier speed) for exhaust, and standard fans for intake. That way, the intake fans are always pushing X amount of air, and the exhaust fans are pulling just enough to keep the case cool.. Works great, easy to do,...
My roommate has one, and it seems to work pretty well, when it's clean... If you havn't seem them, they don't have filters, they just accumulate crap on a set of metal plates. If you have a lot of dust, smoke, or pet hair, get ready to clean the bastard every day.... Not worth the price tag, but it does work fairly well.
Or, you could RTFA, and learn that it's not powerful enough to cut metal... as could could the moderators who pushed this to +3 Insightful...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the topic about how over-expensive dual proc systems are? I put up one option for a cheap solution. If you've got a better one, great! I priced out an entry level dual proc system that would be aaffordable to most people. You priced out a really high end system; is there any wonder that yourss costs more? You may not have a compeling need to to upgrade to a 2X2 GHz system, but if you were running 2x400MHz as your main system, it might be more attractive to you.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you really ought to take a trip over to Dell... If you look here you'll see that you can get a dual capable workstation for under $1000!! Now, I don't know what you consider reasonable, but add in another Xeon, and you get a dual proc system for $1100; that seems eminantly reasonable to me. I hate to sound like a Dell ad, but you really have no reason not to upgrade, if all you're waiting for is affordable SMP. Sure, the system listed could use some more RAM, but RAM is cheap. I'd be willing to bet you can add enough stuff to make you happy for less than $1500. Sub-$1000 systems are nice and all, but for a niche like dual proc workstations, $1500 seems pretty cheap to me.
It helps if you learn to read. The article describes both the type of power for the unit, as well as the expected life of said power supply.
Being a laser knowledge challenged layman myself, I can't see how 1.91kW is anything to shake a stick at. Is that even visible in daylight?
Yeah, because only visible energy is dangerous. UV radiation, X-rays, and gamma radiation are perfectly safe....
Don't you think it would be a good thing if the beam were not visible? Think about it.
It seems to me that > 4GB memory is expensive regardless of platform. Until very recently, I was an 'average college student', and there's no way that I would have been able to drop the cash for 4GB RAM.....(~US$1200, for the modules alone)
I realize that there are other benefits to a 64-bit processor, but it seems to me that the memory limit isn't something that 'the average college student' is likely to run into.
Last time I checked, you were allowed to use Microsoft products AND read Slashdot....
It's comments like these that frighten average people away from Linux. The 'RTFM' and 'Bomb Redmond' attitudes have got to go, or Linux will rot. Linux-nazis are probably more harmful to the promotion of Linux than any of it's technical deficiencies. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of Linux, and it's come a long way, but the aggressive power trip of some linux zealots makes being a linux newbie really suck.
In addition to the added cost, CISC processors are not as well suited to large amounts of cache as RISC chips. Of course, it helps, but the added performance is much smaller than the boost that a Sparc gets for doubling the cache. AMD is just trying to squeeze a few more months out of the Athlon architecture while waiting for Hammer.
IMHO, this chip looks to be a flop. The added cache didn't really help enough, and the PR numbers seem too high for the benchmark scores. If I were in the market for a state-of-the-art PC, I'd either wait for Hammer or just get Intel.
As many others have clearly pointed out, there are significant problems with this system as an anonymous p2p, internet backup. Primarily, your data is scattered out there, and there's no way to know if you can get it back, and you can be sure that it will take a long-ass time to download 200Gb when you need to restore. Also consider that someone will have to provide enough space. This would be very useful for smaller quantities of critical data (Say, 100MB) Reserve 400MB on your drive, for other people's stuff, and store yours on four people's drives. You'd have added insurance that you'd be able to get it back, and with the smaller investment of space, potentially more users. The storage algorithm would be fairly complex, involving a mad amount of handshaking with the remote storage computers, to be sure that your stuff is still out there, but I think it could be done.
Then perhaps you can help me out... I've been looking for a good GUI to configure iptables. I use a linux box as a router for my home network, and have been having a hell of a time with the configuration tools I've found. They've either not worked at all, or the resulting configurations have had odd quirks, like 'forgetting' which ports were supposed to be left open and not functioning when used with dhcp. I've resorted to using a floppy distro (Coyote) becuase I've been able to get things working properly with it.
The problem has been that I can't set up Apache, MySQL, or sendmail from a floppy, all of which I'd like to try. I too am using windows as my primary computing environment, but I'm using linux as a firewall/router, to try to avoid the worms that are out there. I'd also like to route all of my mail through linux, so that I can pre-filter the spam. I see this as using the two OS's for thier strengths. Windows is typically easier to use, from day to day, whereas linux, once properly configured, is a wonderful tool for all sorts of slightly esoteric crap.
I'm currently in my senior year of engineering school. As one of our requirements, we must take a course in Technical Communication, which is basicly the art of writing memos and proposals. I wasn't really looking forward to the class, but I was ok with an easy class before graduation. Well... The technical communications instructor writes in chat speak. Her communication skills are ok, but I would expect her to teach by example, yet every one of her e-mails to the class has used u->you, r->are, etc. This is a college instructor in technical communication, and she can't even remember when to use proper grammar!!
That's not a particularly flattering comparison. Microsoft did a couple of things right with WinXP, but WinME was a huge flop. I've never had so many problems with an OS; the registry was a horrid mess, and ended up corrupt at least once a week. I ended up reformating and going back to Win98SE. Hopefully, 10.2 isn't as poorly tested as ME was.
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