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Desktop Laser Cutting/Engraving

bwags writes "I ran across this VersaLaser desktop Laser Cutting and Engraving printer. I really do not know what I want to do with it, but you gotta admit it is cool. Maybe make some balsa wood airplanes. At only $10K, I want the purple one!"

147 comments

  1. battle bots by minus_273 · · Score: 5, Funny

    after reading what the laser will cut through.. man i wish they could have one of those on a battle bot :-p

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    1. Re:battle bots by BMojo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I just wouldnt want to be in the croud as that thing gets flipped over.

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    2. Re:battle bots by halo8 · · Score: 1

      LOL!!!

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    3. Re:battle bots by Saeger · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      The guy I replied to got modded down for laughing at a politically incorrect joke, and that pissed me off, so I added some sarcasm to see if I'd get modded down too. (By the end of the day this post will probably be -1 Offtopic, and the previous one will be -1 Flamebait, but that's okay: easy come, easy go.)

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    4. Re:battle bots by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      after reading what the laser will cut through.. man i wish they could have one of those on a battle bot :-p

      I thought of doing it... it is possible to take a system like this off-grid... but directed-energy weapons are not allowed :(

      Oh and this would be perfectly safe. The frequencies at which this operates are stopped by glass.

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  2. Hmmm.. by pdbogen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not just wood, but a variety of materials, too..

    I wonder if it can fabricate keys. "Government Property - Do Not Duplicate," here I come.

    1. Re:Hmmm.. by roseblood · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This would be great for cutting out the internal structures for model aircraft. Do you know how many spars and struts are in a 1:24th scale model of an F-14?

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    2. Re:Hmmm.. by ebuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When I worked for a univeristy that had such keys, we could never get them replicated. Well, that was until we put a piece of colored tape over the "warning" message and wrote the room number of the key on the tape.

      After that, there was never a problem.

    3. Re:Hmmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      now you've gone and done it...their company will have to close down now since they hsve really been selling a security circumvention violation...

    4. Re:Hmmm.. by deblassc · · Score: 1

      " Do you know how many spars and struts are in a 1:24th scale model of an F-14?"

      how about a 146" wingspan b-24.

      a friend of mine cuts these by hand the aeroplane works

      he describes it as a flying lumberyard

      here is the designers page.

    5. Re:Hmmm.. by Phronesis · · Score: 1

      I never even bothered to tape them over. They guy at the hardware store would ask me whether I wanted him to stamp "Do not duplicate" on the copy, though.

  3. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you shave your arm, numb it a bit, adjust the power, you have a home laser tattoo machine.

    1. Re:Well by wotan2525 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually I sell used equipment like this, very similar machines made by the same company (www.ulsinc.com). I've burned myself a few times on them and it doesn't leave a permanent scar, but it does hurt like a crazy mofo! www.usedlasers.com is mine, if you're interested. Good Luck, Rob

  4. $10k!! by SpanishInquisition · · Score: 5, Funny

    Imagine the price of a replacement cartidge on that one...

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  5. This makes sense.... by WookieOnTheRun · · Score: 0, Redundant

    There is a definate need for these. Think about all the times you've gone to the mall and seen those "personalize this P.O.S for your loved one" They need engravers that are small as possible.

    Now all I need is something to engrave my CD's so people stop yanking them.

  6. I envision... by philovivero · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...a (slashdotted) website actually hosted on one of these with content along the lines of "AOL CD in the Microwave" showing how you can carve an AOL CD into a cease-and-desist letter in five seconds flat.

  7. Sad story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Our company bought something like this to engrave the company name in our laptop computers. (about 60 of them) However, we realized too late that the power was too high. We ended up wrecking about 15 of them. When I turned mine on afterwards, smoke actually came out of it.

    1. Re:Sad story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You and your company have more money than brains. Are you people clinically stupid or what? What the hell is wrong with the old fashioned burring machine? Or a heated plate?
      Idiots.

    2. Re:Sad story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      turn it into a success: sell them as shape laptops

    3. Re:Sad story by wotan2525 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunetly thats just not possible because these machines have 0 - 100% power adjustments in .1% increments. If it was too hot, you could have just turned it down. Thats why you're just acting like a fool. I play with these machines everyday. www.usedlasers.com rob

  8. Slowly it's dying.... by miketang16 · · Score: 0

    You can tell the server is in the process of being slashdotted, the main image took about a minute to load.

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    1. Re:Slowly it's dying.... by polished+look+2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      here is that particular page.

  9. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I have a portable unit to engrave "Made For Linux" on company laptops.

  10. Do you expect me to talk Goldfinger?? by TechnoGrl · · Score: 5, Funny

    "No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!"

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    1. Re:Do you expect me to talk Goldfinger?? by pvcf · · Score: 1

      Choose your next witticism carefully Mr. Bond, it may be your last.

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    2. Re:Do you expect me to talk Goldfinger?? by TechnoGrl · · Score: 1

      Touche! (g)

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    3. Re:Do you expect me to talk Goldfinger?? by Boogaroo · · Score: 1

      If you could get James Bond, or anyone in one of these machines I'd be amazed. Looks to me they'd have to be six inches tall first...

      Now, where was that matter reducer invention I saw advertized....

    4. Re:Do you expect me to talk Goldfinger?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, DUH, just use the de-big-ulator! Not to be confused with the 're-big-ulator' - the idea of which is just totally preposterous.

  11. so... I wonder... by Drakin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How many request for a free sample will VersaLaser be getting. (For those who haven't been to the site, they offer a free sample of material cut with the lazer)

    More junk to collect!

    1. Re:so... I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a LASER, it's an acronym. Don't s/s/z/ in everything. bloody americans.

  12. 3D Copying by RADIV · · Score: 1

    I've seen this somewhere before. Nice tool for creating prototypes and models of vehicles, espesially air-planes. However I didn't know this technology was available for PC. And for what a price!

    1. Re:3D Copying by casius_longinus · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing. My suggestion to them was to flood college workshops with them. $10k is still high for a hobbyist to buy it and learn how to use it. However, if they can go to a local community college and sign up for a course, they can learn it pretty quickly. The price point and the ease of setup is what leads to revolutions in engineering and economics. Now that it is reasonably priced, they just need to seed the market for learning the technology. Computers were that way for some time.

    2. Re:3D Copying by sydlexic · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've seen this somewhere before.

      yeah, slashdot about a month ago. we call this the RAINs effect: Redundant Array of Infinitely-repeating News stories.

    3. Re:3D Copying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could always just check out a used system.... even larger ones:

      www.usedlasers.com

    4. Re:3D Copying by RADIV · · Score: 0

      Hmm... Interresting. This looks like a industrial-sized laser. I guess you get get a real good quality versus price deal, by looking for a used lasers. The one for sale at www.usedlasers.com was prised at $13K.

    5. Re:3D Copying by Rain · · Score: 1
      from the keep-remaining-fingers-out-of-the-equipment dept.
      bwags writes "I ran across this VersaLaser desktop Laser Cutting and Engraving printer. I really do not know what I want to do with it, but you gotta admit it is cool. Maybe make some balsa wood airplanes. At only $10K, I want the purple one!"

      ( Read More... | 11 of 93 comments )


      (I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist. Hope it's not too subtle.)

  13. As seen on TechTV by cheezycrust · · Score: 4, Informative

    As they mention on their site, TechTV did a short story about it (it's the last item on the list).

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  14. Wonderful. by mrseigen · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now our children's limbs can atrophy further, because we no longer have need for scissors and manual dexterity. Thanks, technology! In 2048 when children are routinely born with no arms I'll be thanking this widget after fitting the little buggers for hoversleds.

    1. Re:Wonderful. by jrockway · · Score: 1

      Not really. If you, for instance, use this to cut out parts of model aircraft, you still have to glue the aircraft together. That, to me, sounds a bit harder than cutting it out. This is not technology causing lasiness; rather, it will allow the hobbiest to make a higher-quality model.

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    2. Re:Wonderful. by jcr · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you, for instance, use this to cut out parts of model aircraft, you still have to glue the aircraft together. That, to me, sounds a bit harder than cutting it out

      You haven't built any model airplanes, have you?

      Laser-cut parts have been all the rage in R/C modelling for the last several years. We used to spend a hellaciously long time cutting out small parts from sheets of balsa wood, (and re-cutting when we broke a piece, or cut too far, etc.)

      At these prices, it's probably within the reach of a model airplane club to buy one. Fantastic!

      -jcr

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    3. Re:Wonderful. by bsartist · · Score: 1

      We used to spend a hellaciously long time cutting out small parts

      Another big time-sink was convincing our parents that we weren't getting high from the "dope" used to shrink-seal the paper skin to the balsa frame. ;-)

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    4. Re:Wonderful. by jcr · · Score: 1

      Speak for yourself. I used MonoKote.

      -jcr

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  15. Laser Stereography ? by zymano · · Score: 1
    I didn't see the article because server was busy but this sounds like laser stereography.

    Very cool stuff.

    Alot of companies use this type of machine to make paper models of buildings for architecture . Fast prototyping stuff.

    1. Re:Laser Stereography ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's just a 2D thing. All it does I think is scan like a regular laser printer only scanning the medium instead of a drum -- with a more powerful laser, of course.

    2. Re:Laser Stereography ? by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 1

      I think that he meant laser lithography. You know, where you write stuff with a laser.

      That is actually quite similar to how it works.

  16. I don't think it requires replacement cartridges.. by slimsam1 · · Score: 1

    It's a laser, isn't it?

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  17. PCB Routing by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder if these could be used as an inexpensive way of routing PCBs. It seems it would be more reliable way to make boards without using a drill bit which would definately be niced. They don't seem to mention it being usable on metals though.

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    1. Re:PCB Routing by ahecht · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem with using lazer cutting on metals is that a lot of the light will reflect back up and fry the lazer. You would need to put a non-reflective coating on first. If you've ever bought stainless steel that had a white plastic sheet on it that you had to peel off, it was probably lazer cut, because the white plastic was the above mentioned non-reflective coating.

    2. Re:PCB Routing by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 1

      Thats what I was guessing it was. It would be interesting if there was a way to focus through the upper non-reflective layer w/o damaging it to isolate traces below the reflective layer. Then use a different intensity/setting/whatever to burn off the reflective insulation above where you want solder pads.

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    3. Re:PCB Routing by Compuser · · Score: 1

      Couldn't you position laser at an angle to reflect
      somewhere else?

    4. Re:PCB Routing by qqtortqq · · Score: 1

      Then you'd cut at an angle.

    5. Re:PCB Routing by kidlinux · · Score: 1

      If you click on the tab that says "What VersaLaser Does", you'll find that they mention metal alot. However, it says that it does "Marking or Engraving Only" on metal and circuit boards, among other things.

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    6. Re:PCB Routing by wotan2525 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunatly they cannot do anything in metal... you'd need about 400 watts of CO2 to get close.

      Regards,

      Rob
      www.usedlasers.com

    7. Re:PCB Routing by Compuser · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't matter for PCBs. Or any other thin slabs
      of metal.

    8. Re:PCB Routing by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 1

      Marking or engraving would be all you'd want on metal. You'd be cutting fiberglass, but only isolating the metal.

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    9. Re:PCB Routing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then they must be falsely advertising as it's right on their website.

    10. Re:PCB Routing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's a CO2 laser. Metal at that wavelength is plainly opaque, as is most of the solids mentioned. That's the whole reason it can cut--if it were "light" in the visible sense, it couldn't cut the glass because it would be passing through it. That's why there are 2 lasers in the product--the one is used as pointer (visible spectrum) to show where the invisible beam is (CO2 laser, which does the cutting).

      More likely the wattage is not strong enough to cut metal, but is on the other materials. 500W seems weak, but I don't know what electronics they are messing with.

      btw, the protective plastic sheet on the stainless steel was unlikely there because it was laser cut. The plastic sheet is used to protect the metal during processing and shipping; when you ship this stuff, it usually is the same material against the same material (meaning, other pieces can damage neighboring pieces sufficiently). They do this with stainless steel, aluminum, many glass types, acrylic, and polished steel. While stainless steel isn't that easily scratched (and if it is, you can polish/buff it out), many have a certain finish that you don't want to mess with or want returns due to a stray deep scratch.

    11. Re:PCB Routing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, it's been a long time ago, but my Thermodynamics tells me you're full of shit.

      400W applied to a 0.10mm (a fairly large trace by today's standards) radius area is going to make a metric assload of heat in that area, assuming that nothing vaporized instantly.

      For christ's sake, we're talking about etching some copper on a PCB with fiberglass on the other side. Nobody said they wanted to burn a hole through their desk.

      By the way, your blatent, repetative, self-advertisement is disgusting. Reminds me of the suck-up, brown-nosing, sons-of-bitches I used to work with.

    12. Re:PCB Routing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not saying you're wrong, but could you maybe expand on this a bit...it's got a 500W supply. How bad is the loss with a CO2 setup like this?

      I would like that the loss of 500W is enough to cut metal, just not sufficiently unless the user is really insanely patient (e.g. good enough to cut thin material and engraving, not to cut blocks or do mini statue making (where you should cast anyways)).

    13. Re:PCB Routing by oman_ · · Score: 1



      I was thinking the same thing. It doesn't look like it would work although I bet you could cover your copper board with an etchant resist and burn that off with a laser.
      Then you could put the board in a chemical bath.

      I bet there are much less expensive ways to do this though :)

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    14. Re:PCB Routing by c_oflynn · · Score: 1

      Um maybe i'm missing the point, but why not just buy a machine designed specificially for making circuit boards. The price is about the same...

      Slashdot even had an article on making your own PCB milling machine a while ago

    15. Re:PCB Routing by NormalVisual · · Score: 3, Informative

      In several years of working for a large laser marking/engraving system manufacturer, I've never seen reflection from the workpiece damage a laser (not sure how it could, really). If you're getting a lot of reflection, it means that the beam is not coupling well into the workpiece, which usually means you're using the wrong laser for the job. I always get a chuckle when I hear of customers trying to mark on wood with a Nd:YAG rail and complaining of poor performance.

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    16. Re:PCB Routing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lasers are used in drilling PCBs.

      http://www.esi.com/products/appnotes/apg/laser.a sp

    17. Re:PCB Routing by wotan2525 · · Score: 1

      I dont know enough about the properties of PCB to let you know why this doesn't work.... I mean... I have no thermodynamics background at all. What I do know is that I've had plenty of customers that had grand visions of doing PCB with a machine like this. It doesn't work.... if you want to cut just the fiberglass, it works just fine.... no problems. This sort of laser is just simply not designed to do metal cutting. There are products available for marking metal, but this is a completely different process. And I'm sorry about the self-advertising, but I'd be willing to put money on the fact that I have more experience than any any other slashdotter with this type of machine. Rob (url omitted)

    18. Re:PCB Routing by wotan2525 · · Score: 1

      It can cut the fiberglass in PCB, but not the copper. It can mark on metals, but can't cut them. Clarify at all?

      Rob
      www.usedlasers.com

    19. Re:PCB Routing by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      CO2 cutting is well documented to work on a variety of materials...

      Including most metals. The beam itself has enough power that individual atoms are vaporized before heat conduction has enough to work. But expect your cutting rate to be kinda low with metals...

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    20. Re:PCB Routing by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 1

      Because the $10,000 T-Tech machine at my school sucks. It breaks bits. It creates burrs. It's a general pain in the ass.

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  18. Great idea! by slimsam1 · · Score: 1

    The metal film on the back of the CD would make a great engraving surface... (yes, joke)

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  20. Try before you buy... by PontifexPrimus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You could check here; they seem to have at least one laser cutter, plus several other 3d-fabricating machines. You can even submit your own CAD-files for jewelry, toys etc.

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    1. Re:Try before you buy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could drop $30k on a rapid prototype machine like the Dimension 3D Printer (http://www.dimensionprinting.com/) and be able to print in ABS plastic in 8"x8"x12" right from a CAD file. They can make some pretty amazing parts.

    2. Re:Try before you buy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No... Check http://www.herobuilders.com/ first.

  21. Do you expect me to talk Austin Powers?? by T-Kir · · Score: 1

    "sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads"

    or..

    Just add the sharks!

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  22. $10k? Here's a cheaper one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I cant tell if this one's like the cutter in the article since their server is /.ed. But for under $7k it must be a bargain.

    Desktop Laser Engraver/Cutter

  23. Moil 2000! by mindgam3r · · Score: 0

    It's the perfect new-baby gift for any family. The brand-new Moil 2000 comes with hyper-circumcision laser. Just imagine the fun... *not responsible for anyone inserting penis into machine*

  24. Re:Try before you buy...Or buy your own! by t0qer · · Score: 3, Informative


    Those are all professional grade machines, I never saw those before and thank
    you for the link.


    However have you ever seen the
    stuff Roland puts out? They make a desktop CNC mills for under $1500
    that can produce small items. Leases start at $100 @ mo. They have
    desktop laser 3D scanners (put a real world object in, produces 3d model) too.



  25. BAD BUSINESS MODEL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Scan in printer
    2. Print printer
    3. PROFIT!!!
    4. goto step 1.

  26. Yes, now my counterfeit plates ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    will produce even cleaner and crisper $100 bills.

  27. Re:Woah by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 1
    Like the ones that I saw in the RobotStore catalog. They have a 3d scanner and a 3d "carver".

    Go calculate something.

  28. The scean from Goldfinger is one step closer! by imaniack · · Score: 1

    James Bond: Do you expect me to talk, Goldfinger?
    Auric Goldfinger: No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to die.
    [A laser is about to cut Bond in half.]
    James Bond: I think you made your point. Thank you for the demonstration.
    Auric Goldfinger: Choose your next witticism carefully Mr. Bond, it may be your last.

  29. Re:Woah by wotan2525 · · Score: 1

    Actually these machines can do 3d relief mapping which is really cool. The software is expensive to do it but you can take a greyscale relief map (ala bryce 3d) and the machine will create a 3d engraving. It's really neat -- I play with these machines all the time because our company sells them used. www.usedlasers.com Thanks, Rob

  30. Re:I don't think it requires replacement cartridge by wotan2525 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually they use a patented quick change co2 laser cartridge with a lifespan of ten to twelve THOUSAND hours of use. After that you trade it back in and get a new one at the cost of about $1500. www.usedlasers.com -- we sell these machines used. Thanks, rob

  31. Engrave Windows CD by SpikyTux · · Score: 3, Funny

    I find one use of it - If you can't get a refund of your unused Windows CD, engrave it with the words "It sucks! Give me back my money!" and send it to Microsoft.

  32. Re:I don't think he was being serious.. by slimsam1 · · Score: 1

    Of course, I was playing along.... yeah

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  33. Re:I don't think he was being serious.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking retard

  34. But can you... by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 3, Funny

    But can you attach it to a fricken shark's fricken head?

    1. Re:But can you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, limited to sea bass...

  35. Case Modding by sharph · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You could use this to put windows in your case, as well as etch designs into the window.

    1. Re:Case Modding by aes12 · · Score: 1

      Or, you could RTFA, and learn that it's not powerful enough to cut metal... as could could the moderators who pushed this to +3 Insightful...

    2. Re:Case Modding by sharph · · Score: 1

      You sound pretty mad about this...relax, its a slashdot comment.

  36. URL for their demo video by metlin · · Score: 3, Informative

    The URL for their demo video is here -http://www.versalaser.com/english/techtv.wmv

    It is kinda slowing down, right now am getting about 20kbps.

  37. You could by kingkade · · Score: 3, Funny

    just use a hamster.

    "Now Mr. Shaggles, I'm going to dress you up in this miniature tuxedo I took of of my sister's Goin' Out Tonight Ken (TM) doll, and then I'm going to strap you to a 1/25th-scale mock-up of the table in Gold Finger made out of popsicle sticks. Then, I will dismember you with this high-powered, laser engraving printer. Any objections? No? (Hamster beginning to visible cry) Excellent."

  38. Re:Um, or they'd tell you to fuck off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you hate "lunix zealots" so much, *why* in the name of all things homosexual do you still come to this site?

  39. Re:Try before you buy...Or buy your own! by Saeger · · Score: 1
    You reminded me of a business idea I had a few years ago (and since I'm not going to impliment it, and with 6+ billion ppl on the planet there's no way it's an original idea, so keeping it "secret" is just selfish & stupid):

    Basically, I thought it would be really cool to combine a camera (get color), 3D laser-scanner (get shape), styrofoam mill (make shape), and airbrush (put color). Then, place the device beside the traditional PhotoBooth in malls across america, and people would be lining up for their own "instant 3D statues" ... until the fad died out.

    Obviously, it's still a bit too expensive to make such a "3D photobooth".

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  40. Re:Um, or they'd tell you to fuck off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come for the (non-linux) articles,
    stay for the trolling.

  41. How about bigger projects? by cgleba · · Score: 3, Informative


    For bigger projects there is a company called
    Photomachining (http://www.photomachining.com)
    that has some pretty serious laser systems that
    sell for about $100k. Check it out. . .some
    pretty neat stuff.

    They'll also laser machine just about anything for
    you in any custom way. Anything from PCBs to
    medical devices to laser-etched guitar picks.

  42. Re:Try before you buy...Or buy your own! by Detritus · · Score: 1

    It's already been done, except for the paint part. The company went bankrupt.

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  43. you'd end up cutting the ceiling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The problem with reflection isn't just that it can bounce back into the laser, the problem is that by reflecting the energy, the metal isn't absorbing much.

    If the metal doesn't absorb much energy, your ability to cut it will be limited.

  44. It can't cut metal? What good is it, then? by MsGeek · · Score: 1

    So much for using this for evil leet case modding...bleah.

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  45. Re:Try before you buy...Or buy your own! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I bet you a thousand dollars that something like this is already patented, and the guy who patented it is just waiting around to sue whoever builds it first. That's how the system works now.

  46. It's called a hardware store! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They'll fabricate keys for you! Even one's that say do not duplicate or "restricted"- as long as you tip the the guy $5.

  47. they are quite nice, ey? by Retarded+Penguin · · Score: 1

    My uncle has something similar to this, just a few years old. He can do some pretty cool stuff, he just does a greyscale image in corel draw and sends it to the engraver. He can do batch jobs and such, hes making good side money by doing things for weddings such as mirrors with a picture of the couple cut out of the silver...etc He got his used for less than 5000$...Quite intersting stuff

  48. FYI Movie Taken offline by VectorLinux · · Score: 1

    Took movie offline today while investigating DDOS attacks. Will make the movie active again shortly.

  49. You mean something like this? by mikeophile · · Score: 1
    Yamaha DiscT@2

    It utilizes unused disc space to visually burn labelling onto the CD itself.

    Last I heard, it's street price was around $150.

  50. Every time I try to do desktop laser cutting by WillASeattle · · Score: 3, Funny

    The teacher starts yelling at me.

    Something about "public property".

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    1. Re:Every time I try to do desktop laser cutting by VectorLinux · · Score: 1

      Movies back online.

  51. Use it to make more servers by dagnabit · · Score: 1



    they should use it to replicate themselves another web server or two to handle the /. load...

  52. REALLY intricate holiday cookies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    One shudders to think what Martha Stewart would do with one of these things...

  53. Jesus Tapdancing Christ! by NETHED · · Score: 2, Insightful

    500 WATTS!??! Even if a third of that power actually goes to lasing, thats a really powerful laser!

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    1. Re:Jesus Tapdancing Christ! by NormalVisual · · Score: 2, Informative

      I didn't see anything on the site indicating the actual laser power, but I'll bet money it's under 25 watts. It's quite common to see 100 watt lasers draw 7-8 kW, most of which goes to heat.

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    2. Re:Jesus Tapdancing Christ! by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      500 WATTS!??! Even if a third of that power actually goes to lasing, thats a really powerful laser!

      Most lasers have a power efficiency of about 1%... sealed CO2 lasers happen to have an efficiency of up to 20%... which is why they're used for stuff like this... but still not too much to get excited about.

      100 W of heat is a good amount, but not really spectacular when it comes to cutting...

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  54. So, you read PC magazine? by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    that's where I say it today, the ad on Pg 116

    thanks for looking up the price, I was going to hit the website later
    today and you saved me the trouble..

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  55. Not a cure-all by cybermace5 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's great for actually cutting stuff, for when you're using flat materials; fast, and a very small kerf.

    As such it's just a 2D device. Can't do some of the more useful CNC work such as fly-cutting surfaces, pocket cutting, and 3D slopes.

    If you want to do the same thing and can live with an 1/8" or 1/16" kerf, you can build a homebuilt CNC machine for an incredibly low price. Depending on what parts you make and where you get them, the price can range from near nothing to $750. Plus you get 3D profiling and a much more flexible machine: put a pen in it and sign lots of certificates, put a woodburning iron in it and make a cool clock face, put a small router in it and engrave your logo into your valve covers.

    Just do a Google search for "homebuilt CNC" and you'll find plenty of good links.

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  56. Re:I don't think he was being serious.. by slimsam1 · · Score: 1

    Anonymous Coward

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  57. erm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I wonder what would happen if I took the laser off they cutting table and used it freehand to cut.... other things... I'd like to see my cat chase that dot :)

  58. Another Slashdot Advertorial by Animats · · Score: 0, Troll

    Wow, notice how the ads at the top are for the item advertised in the story!

  59. swords by Mr+Thundercleze · · Score: 1

    I could sharpen my sword collection with that

  60. Ooooold news by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 1

    After all, didn't they already have one of these things in the movie "goldfinger"? Admittedly that only printed onto huge blocks of gold, or secret agents.

  61. Calm down by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Informative
    500 WATTS!??! Even if a third of that power actually goes to lasing, thats a really powerful laser!

    Calm down....electrical input and lased light output have NOTHING to do with each other.

    Most cutting/welding lasers are usually no more than 100W lased light output(and we're talking BIG units here, for cutting thick, strong metals, and doing so quickly). In fact, if you look at the parent company's website for this "junior" unit, you can see they offer modules from 20W to about 60W. I'm guessing the "junior" unit has a 20W supply.

    Still, 20W is a lot; around 5mW you're getting power levels capable of doing damage to the eye(this is calculated based on the time it takes for the brain to think "BRIGHT LIGHT!" and for the eyelid to respond; past a certain power level, damage occurs before the brain+eyelid can react).

    I wonder how they get around the licensing restrictions on high-power laser systems(yes, believe it or not, over a certain power level, they're 'controlled' devices, given the trouble they can cause.)

    1. Re:Calm down by ipsuid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Licensing is via the CDRH (part of the FDA). According to the specifications for the printer:

      "Class 1 safety enclosure for CO2 laser beam. Class IIIa for red laser pointer."

      This means that the CO2 laser is fully enclosed when the cover is closed (which would be opaque to infared red) and the cover would have a interlock switch to turn off the laser when open.

      If the beam were exposed, then it would be a class IV device, require a key switch, and all kinds of other fun stuff.

      The best CO2 lasers can approach 30% efficiency, so the laser in this is definately less then 150W, most likely much less.

      100W for a CO2 laser is nothing... the big CO2 cutting lasers have light outputs in the kilowatts.

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  62. OOS it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Come on hackers... somebody GPL a design so we can all roll our own with parts from radioshack!

    why spend $10k when you can spend $1k and built it yourself?

  63. One of my customers does this.. by wotan2525 · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of my customers: http://www.laserlizard.com/ does this exact thing.

    Rob
    www.usedlasers.com

  64. engraver +old disposable camera = flash projector! by robdeadtech · · Score: 1

    Engrave some little 35 millimeter metal sheets, gut a disposed disposable camera, and pow! the flashpoint projector!

    http://www.hactivist.com/flashpoint/

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  65. cd marking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is this highly advanced technological device used by people to mark CD's.. its called... A Sharpie

  66. Antique Car Parts by saihung · · Score: 1

    I'm a member of an antique auto club, and as time passes a lot of the perishable plastic parts from the 50's and 60's are becoming unavailable new. The plastic from those years eventually got brittle and disintegrated. It would be lovely to be able to reproduce these parts using 3d printing tech, but is that even possible given today's state of the art?

  67. Nice little machine, I work as a laser engraver... by _GNU_ · · Score: 1

    I use a LaserPro Mercury 50W machine at work, and can cut up to 20mm thick acrylic.. only our imagination limits the use of the machine... it's real fun work sometimes :)

  68. Water Block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A buddy and I were looking for a good way to make water blocks for CPU cooling, making custom laser cuts on computer cases/fan grills/cats..

    The versalaser is cool for engraving, but that is it. Too bad these things are so expensive. We are looking at a kit to put a plasma torch on a CNC rig, you could also add a router or whatever.

  69. Give the guy a break by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

    By the way, your blatent, repetative, self-advertisement is disgusting.

    aw come on, the guy finally get's a story that's about his subject area and he want's to participate and contribute his knowledge.

    If you bothered to contribute positively to the world you'd be promoting it too.

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  70. Harley Davidson, by Vaughn+Anderson · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of an old TV commericial...

    "It can cut through everything I threw at it, it was beautiful. I watched it all day long, cutting random shapes from a mandelbrot generator I coded in Pascal... what an experience..."

    "So, where is your laser cutting printer?"

    *sob* "I bought aluminum siding!" *sob*