Someone with a lot of literary skills needs to come up with some sort of alert that claims that those bastard liberal media companies and those
^^^^^^^ liberals in Congress (I said sensationalist) ^^^^^^^^
Imagine. If Tim Berners-Lee hadn't invented the World Wide Web, MSFT would have this huge component of their operating system hanging around with nothing to do, and there would be nothing they could do about it.
MS Guy #1: What's this program over here? MS Guy #2: I call it "iexplore.exe" #1: What's it do? #2: Well, nothing yet. I mean, it sends requests
to servers, captures the results and
displays them, but there aren't any servers
it works with, so... #1: So.... why is it here? #2: Well, I'll be damned if I know why, but the
operating system just kept crapping out until
I wrote the thing. So, I guess we're stuck
with it. #1: Sounds good to me.
I know I'm going off on a tangent here, and it's off-topic, but please bear with me.
The phone company doesn't tap converstations, but they sure as hell have a database of which line called which number, when, and for how long.
Can someone explain why the Good Guys always have to keep the Bad Guy on the line for something like three minutes in order to trace the call, when all they should have to do is call up the Phone Company (on another line) and ask them to punch up the number of the person calling this number right now?
Just like the way people do when reverse-engineering and re-implementing, except now you apply the same concept to writing reviews in compliance with EULAs. For example, Bob buys WhizBang version 1.0 with his own money. He installs it on his own computer and starts using it. Alice sits down next to him and watches him use it. Alice never touches the media, or the computer. She just asks Bob questions like "What happens if you click that thing over there", and takes notes while Bob does all the work. Alice can then write any review she wants, without violating any EULA that she never agreed to, explicitly or implicitly, in the first place.
I'm forfeiting moderator ability to post here. And I'm capped at 50, so this can only hurt me. That having been said...
SHAME on anyone here who has ever had to reinstall Windows just because "the registry got messed up" - and did not voice their opinion on this case.
Anyone who responded to the public comment opportunity for this case with remarks that even REMOTELY resembled "I support/oppose this settlement because I had to reinstall Windows after my registry got messed up" has done less-than-nothing for their cause.
I admit I haven't been following the tivo thing too closely, and I knew you had to dial in with the thing to get the service, but this is the first time I've heard that they monitor your every move.
It will be a cold day in hell before one of those things ever enters my house.
this doesn't really contradict the first thing he said. the first part was saying thant since inte's compiler is not opensource, and will not be accepted in an opensource world.
Are you saying he was making two completely different and unconnected points? At best, his example is a non-sequitur. At worst, it contradicts what he said. I still see an implication that if something isn't open source, it's not going to be successful, followed by an example showing a case where business model doesn't affect success.
1) Microsoft platform = closed source(*). Microsoft Office is loaded on practically every single corporate PC out there and at least half of all home machines.
2) Linux platform = open source(*). GCC is open source. GCC is on every single linux server and desktop with the development stuff loaded.
This was exactly my point. These similarities between the successes of opposing business models serve to refute the notion that something won't be accepted if it isn't open source.
I don't see the contradiction
I'll try to contain my surprise
You might see it if you were a pedantic asshole only concerned with logic instead of a realistic world view
I disagree. DVDs may be more prone to damage, but if you're careful with them and don't damage them, they won't deteriorate. With tapes, on the other hand, deterioration is inevitable and has nothing to do with how careful you are.
First you suggest that the key to wide distribution is Open Source alone:
The article itself states the compiler itself is not open source. So how's this going to cause it to be chosen over GCC when it (probably) won't be distributed to the same degree as GCC?
Then you make the following analogy:
Q: Why do people use MS-Office?
A: Because its there.
Q: Why will people use GCC?
A: Because its there!
You just contradicted yourself. MS-Office is not Open Source and it appears to be doing just fine.
Why can't I freeze down the process and thaw it back up at a later time? It ought to be possible to take all the connected memory pages and save them in some way, preserve file handles and pointers, and everything. Maybe net-connections would die, but that's understandable. Has any work been done in this field?
Yes, in Redmond. It's called "Hibernate Mode", and it's been around for a while now. If the truth hurts, go ahead and mod me down. My karma's capped at 50 right now anyway.
The sampling theorem is considered to have been articulated by Nyquist in 1928 and mathematically proven by Shannon in 1949. Some books use the term "Nyquist Sampling Theorem", and others use "Shannon Sampling Theorem". They are in fact the same sampling theorem.
Disabling services and recompiling kernels are very different things indeed. The latter is something no end-user should ever have to do. And if the latter is seen as the appropriate way to accomplish a particular result desired by the end user, then you haven't designed the system well enough.
If you can turn of services in Linux too, then what is Aunt Tillie tryint to accomplish that she needs to do my recompiling her kernel?
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..."unsinkable" is to "ship"
Someone with a lot of literary skills needs to come up with some sort of alert that claims that
those bastard liberal media companies and those
^^^^^^^
liberals in Congress (I said sensationalist)
^^^^^^^^
You misspelled "conservatives".
I'll take "jingoism" and "nationalism" from Column A, and "heritage" from Column B.
Oh, and bring me my fortune cookies first so I can see how much the check is going to be.
I'll do it for $5 million a year!
Me too. I'm just not sure how I'd come up with the money.
Imagine. If Tim Berners-Lee hadn't invented the World Wide Web, MSFT would have this huge component of their operating system hanging around with nothing to do, and there would be nothing they could do about it.
MS Guy #1: What's this program over here?
MS Guy #2: I call it "iexplore.exe"
#1: What's it do?
#2: Well, nothing yet. I mean, it sends requests
to servers, captures the results and
displays them, but there aren't any servers
it works with, so...
#1: So.... why is it here?
#2: Well, I'll be damned if I know why, but the
operating system just kept crapping out until
I wrote the thing. So, I guess we're stuck
with it.
#1: Sounds good to me.
...when programs were measured in inches
Inches long? Or inches thick?
...to just walk around Redmond with a big "Sue Me" sign on their backs?
I know I'm going off on a tangent here, and it's off-topic, but please bear with me.
The phone company doesn't tap converstations, but they sure as hell have a database of which line called which number, when, and for how long.
Can someone explain why the Good Guys always have to keep the Bad Guy on the line for something like three minutes in order to trace the call, when all they should have to do is call up the Phone Company (on another line) and ask them to punch up the number of the person calling this number right now?
Just like the way people do when reverse-engineering and re-implementing, except now you apply the same concept to writing reviews in compliance with EULAs. For example, Bob buys WhizBang version 1.0 with his own money. He installs it on his own computer and starts using it. Alice sits down next to him and watches him use it. Alice never touches the media, or the computer. She just asks Bob questions like "What happens if you click that thing over there", and takes notes while Bob does all the work. Alice can then write any review she wants, without violating any EULA that she never agreed to, explicitly or implicitly, in the first place.
I'm forfeiting moderator ability to post here. And I'm capped at 50, so this can only hurt me. That having been said...
SHAME on anyone here who has ever had to reinstall Windows just because "the registry got messed up" - and did not voice their opinion on this case.
Anyone who responded to the public comment opportunity for this case with remarks that even REMOTELY resembled "I support/oppose this settlement because I had to reinstall Windows after my registry got messed up" has done less-than-nothing for their cause.
I admit I haven't been following the tivo thing too closely, and I knew you had to dial in with the thing to get the service, but this is the first time I've heard that they monitor your every move.
It will be a cold day in hell before one of those things ever enters my house.
you abviously dont rent many DVD's or talk to the clerks at the DVD rentral shop [...]
And you obviously didn't read the post you replied to.
this doesn't really contradict the first thing he said. the first part was saying thant since inte's compiler is not opensource, and will not be accepted in an opensource world.
Are you saying he was making two completely different and unconnected points? At best, his example is a non-sequitur. At worst, it contradicts what he said. I still see an implication that if something isn't open source, it's not going to be successful, followed by an example showing a case where business model doesn't affect success.
Open up your brain and adjust a few things:
You're off to a bad start already.
1) Microsoft platform = closed source(*). Microsoft Office is loaded on practically every single corporate PC out there and at least half of all home machines.
2) Linux platform = open source(*). GCC is open source. GCC is on every single linux server and desktop with the development stuff loaded.
This was exactly my point. These similarities between the successes of opposing business models serve to refute the notion that something won't be accepted if it isn't open source.
I don't see the contradiction
I'll try to contain my surprise
You might see it if you were a pedantic asshole only concerned with logic instead of a realistic world view
Ad hominem: -1
I disagree. DVDs may be more prone to damage, but if you're careful with them and don't damage them, they won't deteriorate. With tapes, on the other hand, deterioration is inevitable and has nothing to do with how careful you are.
Does this mean Region Code Enhancement [...] scripting [...] would be banned in Oz?
No, it just means scripting isn't considered software, which we all knew already. Sorry, kiddies.
Then you make the following analogy:
You just contradicted yourself. MS-Office is not Open Source and it appears to be doing just fine.
How is what you're suggesting different from Hyper-Threading or "Jackson" technology?
Why can't I freeze down the process and thaw it back up at a later time? It ought to be possible to take all the connected memory pages and save them in some way, preserve file handles and pointers, and everything. Maybe net-connections would die, but that's understandable. Has any work been done in this field?
Yes, in Redmond. It's called "Hibernate Mode", and it's been around for a while now. If the truth hurts, go ahead and mod me down. My karma's capped at 50 right now anyway.
I presume you're impersonating the robot on "Lost In Space". The family's name is Robinson.
... building a Dolby Pro-Logic encoder for an Edison Cylinder Phonograph
e don't care what the vendor thinks we should and should not do
I didn't say "no end-user should ever do". I said "no end-user should ever HAVE TO do". There's a difference.
This has nothing to do with granny compiling a kernel, it's about making the build process *better*.
That makes more sense now. Thanks for the clarification.
The best way to accelerate a windows box is at 9.8 meters per second square.
Shouldn't that be "squared"?
Disabling services and recompiling kernels are very different things indeed. The latter is something no end-user should ever have to do. And if the latter is seen as the appropriate way to accomplish a particular result desired by the end user, then you haven't designed the system well enough.
If you can turn of services in Linux too, then what is Aunt Tillie tryint to accomplish that she needs to do my recompiling her kernel?