Read the thread history. It started, not with a Christian saying "Einstein's belief legitimises mine", it started with an atheistic troll saying "All religious people are fucking stupid".
Einstein wasn't brought up as a confirmation of belief, he was brought up as a counter-example. And even if that particular example isn't a great one (Einstein wasn't a Christian, but he didn't outright reject the notion of divinity, so he's not really a star witness for either side), there are plenty more to fall back on.
You were missing my point. I wasn't saying people went back to Newton/Einstein because there were no modern Christian scientists, I was saying there were no famous modern scientists (Christian or otherwise) these days. Of the pople you listed, I only know three (Dyson, Knuth and Bakker), and I'm significantly more interested in that sort of thing than the average person. If you asked the guy on the street, they might know Dyson, because of vacuum cleaners. That's about it.
So, if you pay $10 for line rental, yet the phone company charges you more when you actually use it to make a call, is that gouging too?
These sort of services are really expensive to run while a site's under attack. You basically need to have a whole TON of extra capacity to divert all the requests to. So they charge a basic fee for monitory/setup/syncing/whatever - just keeping the service up and ready - and when you start getting millions of requests per second being thrown at it, the price bumps up.
It is the asshole pushing them in an asshole'ish fashion and INSISTING that his "freedom" is more important than anyone else's freedom to NOT have his religious beliefs inflicted upon them AT WORK.
The GPs point was that "assholeishness" is a subjective term, and some people are willing to label any appearance of an opinion that doesn't mesh with their own as "assholeishness". Nobody gets fired for talking about their weekend at work, despite that being a non-work related subject (unless they do it to a degree that they aren't doing their work any more). The danger is in allowing someone to get fired for talking about an unpopular non-work related subject.
Maybe you should follow the thread of this conversation. The original post was:
Religious people are fucking stupid, delusional idiots anyway.
Bringing up Einstein and Newtown wasn't a case of arguing from authority, it was bringing a specific example of well-known, intelligent people, to counter the sweeping general claim that all religious people are stupid.
There just aren't that many famous present-day scientists. Everyone was taught about Newton and Einstein in school, so they know about them. Hawking is probably the only other scientist that might get recognition, and even that's largely because his disability makes him a talking point, rather than his contributions to science (which most laypeople don't really have a grasp on).
Exchanging your control of the device for having every piece of information scanned, categorized, and resold by Google would be reason enough for someone to buy a Win RT tablet
Well, gee, it's lucky Google doesn't scan, categorize and resell very piece of information on your device then, isn't it? FUD much?
Security cameras are totally sociopathic (they're inanimate, they have to be). He's behaving like a sociopath in plain view to draw attention to the sociopaths hiding in the corners.
Well, if a religious organization is allowed to come into public schools to teach "after the 3'oclock bell rings", then I think secularists should be allowed to come to churches after mass and preach their philosophy
And if churches were owned and operated by the state in the same fashion schools are, you might have a point
Um, deploying armed forces into a sovereign nation without permission is generally considered an act of war too. If it pans out the way you say, it won't the Pakistanis who started the war.
Give Bill G an extra $10 and sure he'll probably invest it but that will not significantly flow back into the economy
What do you think investing is, if not flowing back into the economy? "Significantly" is a meaningless qualification, unless you'd care to define it further.
I know you said your example was grossly simplified, but it's also simplified to the point of misrepresentation. Rich people don't just let their money sit there. If they did, they'd become less rich through inflation. The hypothetical Bill Gates sequence runs more like this:
You -> Bill Gates -> Investment Manager -> Expanding Business -> Employee -> Supermarket + Landlord + Gas Station -> Farmer + Logistics Company + Oil Company ->...
Now, whether that actually benefits low socio-economic groups is another question, but the rich don't generally just sit on their cash.
Have you ever considered the possibility that some people actually *value* a walled garden? Like nearly everyone who isn't a tech geek? Which is like 99% of the people buying these devices?
Most people who aren't tech geeks don't even realize they're in a walled garden.
Pulseaudio still craps out on me pretty regularly. My wife's Linux Mint frequently gets confused when connecting/disconnecting a USB headset. That pulseaudio device priority list on her computer has 100s of entries now, because it keeps adding a new one every time the device is connected.
The thing is, whenever something gets stable in linuxland, the devs seem to think it means that the time is ripe for a rewrite. As a dev, I get that. You learned lesson developing the last iteration that you'd like to see implemented. But what it ends up becoming is a permanent sea of instability - and the features that are added often seem like they're done because they seem cool to the devs rather than practical reasons (does anyone even use that Nepomuk crud that kept popping up errors on my system?)
I'm not sure what parallel you're trying to draw - because one piece of software on Linux failed to sell, all Linux software is doomed to fail too? Because I can point you to quite a few dead-in-the-water apps on proprietary platforms too.
It depends. If I only need to move a fraction of a centimetre, I'll go for the far more efficient, and better suited for the job, snail. Also, what's the relative price of horse vs snail food?
The reason ARM's getting a look-in now is that many devices are over-engineered for the uses people are putting them to. The cost of power in desktop computing is going up, and obviously, the power budget in mobile devices is becoming more and more crucial as sheer processing power becomes overkill.
The term "retina display" is a marketing term that means "you won't see pixelation", and that's actually a useful thing to know.
No, the term "retina display" is a marketing term that means "you won't see pixelation AND the hardware was made by Apple". Even if their displays have equivalent pixel density, non-Apple companies can't say their panels are retina displays, because the term is owned by Apple. That's what's turned a somewhat-useful marketing term, into a marketing crowbar.
an effective way to convey an idea that consumers wouldn't normally understand.
That's a good marketing term. What makes Apples bullshit, is that they trademark Retina, and then start crowing about how they're the only ones who have Retina displays, when other players have displays quantatively as good or better than Apple's but cannot claim to have "Retina displays" due to legal restraint.
The thin blue line should be thinner around consensual crime, and around extracting cash from motorists by parking themselves on mis-zoned "speeding hotspots", and thicker around thefts and violent crime.
The police near us regularly set up speed traps along a six-lane, divided road zoned at 60kmh (it was zoned thus 20 years ago, when it was just a two-lane road, and hasn't been changed as the road's grown) or just before the onramp to the freeway, where the speed limit changes from 60kmh to 110kmh over a few hundred metres.
Meanwhile, when some friends of ours were robbed, the police just told them to call their insurance company, and check out the local pawn shops.
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Read the thread history. It started, not with a Christian saying "Einstein's belief legitimises mine", it started with an atheistic troll saying "All religious people are fucking stupid".
Einstein wasn't brought up as a confirmation of belief, he was brought up as a counter-example. And even if that particular example isn't a great one (Einstein wasn't a Christian, but he didn't outright reject the notion of divinity, so he's not really a star witness for either side), there are plenty more to fall back on.
You were missing my point. I wasn't saying people went back to Newton/Einstein because there were no modern Christian scientists, I was saying there were no famous modern scientists (Christian or otherwise) these days. Of the pople you listed, I only know three (Dyson, Knuth and Bakker), and I'm significantly more interested in that sort of thing than the average person. If you asked the guy on the street, they might know Dyson, because of vacuum cleaners. That's about it.
So, if you pay $10 for line rental, yet the phone company charges you more when you actually use it to make a call, is that gouging too?
These sort of services are really expensive to run while a site's under attack. You basically need to have a whole TON of extra capacity to divert all the requests to. So they charge a basic fee for monitory/setup/syncing/whatever - just keeping the service up and ready - and when you start getting millions of requests per second being thrown at it, the price bumps up.
It is the asshole pushing them in an asshole'ish fashion and INSISTING that his "freedom" is more important than anyone else's freedom to NOT have his religious beliefs inflicted upon them AT WORK.
The GPs point was that "assholeishness" is a subjective term, and some people are willing to label any appearance of an opinion that doesn't mesh with their own as "assholeishness". Nobody gets fired for talking about their weekend at work, despite that being a non-work related subject (unless they do it to a degree that they aren't doing their work any more). The danger is in allowing someone to get fired for talking about an unpopular non-work related subject.
Maybe you should follow the thread of this conversation. The original post was:
Religious people are fucking stupid, delusional idiots anyway.
Bringing up Einstein and Newtown wasn't a case of arguing from authority, it was bringing a specific example of well-known, intelligent people, to counter the sweeping general claim that all religious people are stupid.
There just aren't that many famous present-day scientists. Everyone was taught about Newton and Einstein in school, so they know about them. Hawking is probably the only other scientist that might get recognition, and even that's largely because his disability makes him a talking point, rather than his contributions to science (which most laypeople don't really have a grasp on).
Well, thank goodness I've got your assurances Anonymous Coward.
Exchanging your control of the device for having every piece of information scanned, categorized, and resold by Google would be reason enough for someone to buy a Win RT tablet
Well, gee, it's lucky Google doesn't scan, categorize and resell very piece of information on your device then, isn't it? FUD much?
Security cameras are totally sociopathic (they're inanimate, they have to be). He's behaving like a sociopath in plain view to draw attention to the sociopaths hiding in the corners.
Mass destruction, not cash destruction
Well, if a religious organization is allowed to come into public schools to teach "after the 3'oclock bell rings", then I think secularists should be allowed to come to churches after mass and preach their philosophy
And if churches were owned and operated by the state in the same fashion schools are, you might have a point
How does the vendor's storefront have anything to do with the openness of their product?
because i don't do anything very complex
As many people don't do with their laptops. There's a reason the GP didn't say 100% of laptop sales in his post. You're obviously not one of the 30%
Um, deploying armed forces into a sovereign nation without permission is generally considered an act of war too. If it pans out the way you say, it won't the Pakistanis who started the war.
Give Bill G an extra $10 and sure he'll probably invest it but that will not significantly flow back into the economy
What do you think investing is, if not flowing back into the economy? "Significantly" is a meaningless qualification, unless you'd care to define it further.
I know you said your example was grossly simplified, but it's also simplified to the point of misrepresentation. Rich people don't just let their money sit there. If they did, they'd become less rich through inflation. The hypothetical Bill Gates sequence runs more like this:
You -> Bill Gates -> Investment Manager -> Expanding Business -> Employee -> Supermarket + Landlord + Gas Station -> Farmer + Logistics Company + Oil Company -> ...
Now, whether that actually benefits low socio-economic groups is another question, but the rich don't generally just sit on their cash.
Have you ever considered the possibility that some people actually *value* a walled garden? Like nearly everyone who isn't a tech geek? Which is like 99% of the people buying these devices?
Most people who aren't tech geeks don't even realize they're in a walled garden.
Pulseaudio still craps out on me pretty regularly. My wife's Linux Mint frequently gets confused when connecting/disconnecting a USB headset. That pulseaudio device priority list on her computer has 100s of entries now, because it keeps adding a new one every time the device is connected.
The thing is, whenever something gets stable in linuxland, the devs seem to think it means that the time is ripe for a rewrite. As a dev, I get that. You learned lesson developing the last iteration that you'd like to see implemented. But what it ends up becoming is a permanent sea of instability - and the features that are added often seem like they're done because they seem cool to the devs rather than practical reasons (does anyone even use that Nepomuk crud that kept popping up errors on my system?)
I'm not sure what parallel you're trying to draw - because one piece of software on Linux failed to sell, all Linux software is doomed to fail too? Because I can point you to quite a few dead-in-the-water apps on proprietary platforms too.
It depends. If I only need to move a fraction of a centimetre, I'll go for the far more efficient, and better suited for the job, snail. Also, what's the relative price of horse vs snail food?
The reason ARM's getting a look-in now is that many devices are over-engineered for the uses people are putting them to. The cost of power in desktop computing is going up, and obviously, the power budget in mobile devices is becoming more and more crucial as sheer processing power becomes overkill.
The term "retina display" is a marketing term that means "you won't see pixelation", and that's actually a useful thing to know.
No, the term "retina display" is a marketing term that means "you won't see pixelation AND the hardware was made by Apple". Even if their displays have equivalent pixel density, non-Apple companies can't say their panels are retina displays, because the term is owned by Apple. That's what's turned a somewhat-useful marketing term, into a marketing crowbar.
an effective way to convey an idea that consumers wouldn't normally understand.
That's a good marketing term. What makes Apples bullshit, is that they trademark Retina, and then start crowing about how they're the only ones who have Retina displays, when other players have displays quantatively as good or better than Apple's but cannot claim to have "Retina displays" due to legal restraint.
Just three levels deep? What an optimist.
The thin blue line should be thinner around consensual crime, and around extracting cash from motorists by parking themselves on mis-zoned "speeding hotspots", and thicker around thefts and violent crime.
The police near us regularly set up speed traps along a six-lane, divided road zoned at 60kmh (it was zoned thus 20 years ago, when it was just a two-lane road, and hasn't been changed as the road's grown) or just before the onramp to the freeway, where the speed limit changes from 60kmh to 110kmh over a few hundred metres.
Meanwhile, when some friends of ours were robbed, the police just told them to call their insurance company, and check out the local pawn shops.
Uh, so? Did the product suck less because she was involved in it, or something?