As with a lot of computer problems, not everyone will be affected.
I can tell you, though, that my 500-MHz Ti got its battery kicked in the nuts immediately after 10.2.4.
Apple is sending me a new one (yay AppleCare), and the word is that they're on back-order. (Yay for being a service provider... Oh, wait, I still won't get my battery before anyone else.)
If you do suspect your battery is hosed, CALL APPLE. The more reports they get, the sooner it will be acknowledged officially. Prevent future Q&A problems today.:-)
But what else are universities to do when their asshat students leave crap like KaZaA on 24/7?
Here's a nice little essay for you:
Here at Virginia Commonwealth University, we have very serious bandwidth./Very./ We're split into two campuses--medical and academic (perhaps you've heard of MCV Hospitals)--and we're actually not even in the same ZIP code, we're so large.
We have a lot--a LOT--of bandwidth in order to support the two campuses and the hospitals here. We have OC-3s and DS-3s and GTA-3s and See-Deez-Nutz... We have big-time pipes.
Here's our problem.
The residence halls alone are currently using 50% of the entire university's bandwidth to the outside world. Of this amount, roughly 90% of that is taken up by P2P apps like KaZaA and Gator.
I'm not making this statistic up, sadly.
The students come to us and say, "Why doesn't VCU just give us more bandwidth?"
We always reply, "Because that's what we used to do, and the only thing that happened was more file sharing."
This is simply obvious to any Slashdot reader.
Good: VCU has quarantined residence hall bandwidth. At my desk, I get great speed everywhere that hasn't been Slashdotted or Farked.;-) (700 KB to 1+ MB from Akamai-backboned stuff like downloads from Apple.com, for example). Go VCU.
Bad: This is easily solved, but not with...
Well...
Welcome to state schools. Apparently, some time in the past year or two, someone (I believe Dell, as the university higher-ups are suckers for anything with Mike D.'s logo on it, regardless of if it's not the best purchasing decision for the situation) sold--and I mean/sold,/ in the salesman sense--the university new networking hardware. I don't know what we replaced (some have told me it was Cisco hardware) but the decision has been one with terrible consequences.
Apparently, VCU doesn't have the ability to do anything at the individual node level, like impose speed or usage caps, other than turning a port ON or OFF; the only thing we've been able to do is quarantine the res halls' subnets from from the rest of the university.
I say this because it seems logical that if we/could,/ we/would have by now./ I wonder exactly what we've "upgraded" to/with, because it doesn't seem to be doing a very good job.
At least, that's what I would have done, had I any control over the situation--every student gets, essentially, N amount of kilobits/sec. Something reasonable, something fair. It doesn't take a TON of bandwidth to be enough for students in the residence halls who need to check their grades, download assignments, and do research--even enough for gaming and doing light Internet file sharing. (Where inter-LAN sharing doesn't have that restriction, of course.)
The students are responsible for themselves, like the adults they technically are. Wanna trade files over KaZaA all day? Fine, it's your node allotment, use it any way you wish. Don't complain about slow Internet speeds anymore, 'cause it's clearly demonstrated that it's/your fault./... But no, that's not how things are.
Of course, I'm not stupid. That has issues associated with it, too. Another idea would be to put/in writing/ for the students that abuse is against university Internet usage policy, look for abuse, track down the abusers, and actually enforce it. Abusers lose their bandwidth entirely, for example. Repeat offenders go on academic or residence hall probation.
No pun intended, this is all academic.
Everyone's at fault in a lot of universities, whether it's the students and a bad IT department or the students and bad adminstration. Here, the students want more to get work done and such, but when they get more, the/more/ gets abused and eaten up by the same people asking for it.
No, not everyone's abusing it. But as anyone on teh Intarweb knows, it's a very large percentage of the people. And even if it isn't, and the minority is hurting the majority, it's still up to BOTH the adminstration/IT people, to police their turf--and the students, to police themselves.
I'd be/really/ pissed off were it not confined to the residence halls.;-)
-/- Michael Watson Apple Service Representative Virginia Commonwealth University http://www.vcu.edu/
I don't know what the law is here, but in Virginia, you still may be screwed.
I work for Virginia Commonwealth University. We have unique ID numbers for the students, staff, and faculty--not our SSNs...
But every time you need something, almost ANYTHING, you have to give your SSN. Over the phone, in person, on a form, whatever.
When I got my university ID, some jackass had written down my SSN and NAME on a fucking Post-It and almost THREW IT AWAY when I got my little plastic card.
I said, "Whoa, give me that, dude. Don't throw it in the trash can." He looked at me like I was crazy.
No one around here understands why that kind of stuff is bad. I, on the other hand, ripped it into pieces and put it in two different trash cans.
Perhaps a bit paranoid, sure, but after I saw what happened to a friend of mine whose SSN and name were compromised (massive fraud around the city in his name, by some still-unknown individual), I don't care.
It's the same mentality that leads people not to password-protect their computers.
Until you factor in any court costs/missed work/other expenses that come from you tossing a CRT into the trash.
What?
Yeah, that's right--in many states, if not most, it's illegal to just throw out CRTs. In some states it's a violation of hazardous waste disposal laws.
(Any Apple service provider will tell you that the proper way to dispose of a CRT is "within accordance of local hazardous waste disposal laws".)
Pick your poison. This post is really stupid. The Newton 2000 and 2100s were really awesome, and still impress people when you show them around the things.
Big deal that it's a "dead" platform. Some people still have them, like them, use them, and want to keep using them until they no longer work.
What should you care if they do just that? Are they somehow infringing on your ability to use whatever PDA you have?
That is/quite/ a nifty idea, the screensaver thing. (Assuming there's any security with the phone range thing at all.)
How about some more:
say "Get back to your desk you slacker" -- going out of range
say "Help me, he's coming right for me" -- coming into range
tell application "Safari" set docList to index of every window as list repeat with theWindow in docList if URL of document theWindow contains "microsoft.com" then quit else if URL of document theWindow does not contain "microsoft.com" then end if end repeat end tell
Four weeks go by with me purchasing $10 or $20 on my card in total.
Suddenly, a big-ass purchase for a digital camera and some CF memory.
My card stopped working right after that. My bank had been paying attention to my spending habits, and saw an anomaly, so they suspended the card.
While I was happy that they were looking out for me--and themselves, since CC fraud hurts them, too--it still bothers me that someone (or something, if it was a computer program watching along at home) was tracking my spending habits.
Why is Twirlip's comment here moderated as -1, Troll?
I've tagged lots of people as trolls before, and/this/ is certainly not one I would have tagged, had I any moderator points when I read it, becaue, and get this--
He's right.
Having USB ports on the keyboard happens to be one of the nicest things I can think of about Apple's keyboards. It's so nice, in fact, that I can't get along well without them these days (no reason to reach around my PowerBook when I can just plug my Canon PowerShot into the side of the external keyboard I'm using), not to mention how other keyboard manufacturers have adopted the practice of including USB ports since Apple shipped the first iMac.
Twirlip's right on the money, here, whether the mod who tagged this one is an Apple fan or not.
Hope some lucky moderator gets to meta-moderate this one.
That doesn't help him at all, though, because he needed to get data off the drive before formatting.
Of course Disk Utility can format the drive. That isn't the issue. The issue is that his drive was too full to perform a reinstallation because something went wrong somewhere--he needed to rescue data and/then/ format the drive.
Get a Power Mac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) Software Install CD.
Get a Power Mac G4 (Digital Audio) Software Install CD.
Compare the two Mac OS ROM files in the System Folder of each CD. See how they're different?
With each hardware revision--notice those two logic boards are different--Apple updates Mac OS 9 to boot on the damned thing.
They do it with OS X, too, but it's not nearly as apparent.
So, why do they do that? The 1-MB bootROM of NewWorld machines, of course. It contains Open Firmware instructions that initialize an OS from a boot device. Change the hardware in certain places, change the software to accomodate. (Note that this is not always the rule, but it's the general practice here.)
Simply put, in the end, if Apple doesn't want you booting OS 9, dammit, you won't. (At least, not without some supa-leet hacksorin'.) The bootROM doesn't/have/ to initialize anything it doesn't want to--remember that OF can specify what toolbox ROM image gets loaded and which doesn't.
Yes, there is more OF code in the toolbox ROM image, and there's the bootinfo file in the master directory block, but what you're talking about is not something a low-level format will circumvent/solve/whatever.
Anyway, rather than exhaust myself explaining why you can't just low-level format a frickin' HD like you say--when have you ever needed to re-update the firmware on a Power Mac after a HD replacement?--I'll point you to some good reading you/should/ have done before making an ass out of yourself:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/hardware/Dev ic eManagers/pci_srvcs/pci_cards_drivers/PCI_BOOK.35. html
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1167.h tm l
If I'm wrong, I would love to know where and why. If Apple can be circumvented, who cares what Quark says? (Then again, who cares, anyway? Quark can eat a fat one.)
I don't find that a flaw at all. On the contrary, the student should always keep the teacher on his or her toes... Otherwise, no one's learning anything, and that's the whole point, right?
In time, the student will become the teacher. It's the teacher's job to learn from his or her students and make sure that doesn't happen just because some computers fall from the sky.
Slashdot Mirror
As with a lot of computer problems, not everyone will be affected.
... Oh, wait, I still won't get my battery before anyone else.)
:-)
I can tell you, though, that my 500-MHz Ti got its battery kicked in the nuts immediately after 10.2.4.
Apple is sending me a new one (yay AppleCare), and the word is that they're on back-order. (Yay for being a service provider
If you do suspect your battery is hosed, CALL APPLE. The more reports they get, the sooner it will be acknowledged officially. Prevent future Q&A problems today.
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Mikey-San
It sucks.
/Very./ We're split into two campuses--medical and academic (perhaps you've heard of MCV Hospitals)--and we're actually not even in the same ZIP code, we're so large.
... We have big-time pipes.
;-) (700 KB to 1+ MB from Akamai-backboned stuff like downloads from Apple.com, for example). Go VCU.
...
...
/sold,/ in the salesman sense--the university new networking hardware. I don't know what we replaced (some have told me it was Cisco hardware) but the decision has been one with terrible consequences.
/could,/ we /would have by now./ I wonder exactly what we've "upgraded" to/with, because it doesn't seem to be doing a very good job.
/your fault./ ... But no, that's not how things are.
/in writing/ for the students that abuse is against university Internet usage policy, look for abuse, track down the abusers, and actually enforce it. Abusers lose their bandwidth entirely, for example. Repeat offenders go on academic or residence hall probation.
/more/ gets abused and eaten up by the same people asking for it.
/really/ pissed off were it not confined to the residence halls. ;-)
This is a given.
But what else are universities to do when their asshat students leave crap like KaZaA on 24/7?
Here's a nice little essay for you:
Here at Virginia Commonwealth University, we have very serious bandwidth.
We have a lot--a LOT--of bandwidth in order to support the two campuses and the hospitals here. We have OC-3s and DS-3s and GTA-3s and See-Deez-Nutz
Here's our problem.
The residence halls alone are currently using 50% of the entire university's bandwidth to the outside world. Of this amount, roughly 90% of that is taken up by P2P apps like KaZaA and Gator.
I'm not making this statistic up, sadly.
The students come to us and say, "Why doesn't VCU just give us more bandwidth?"
We always reply, "Because that's what we used to do, and the only thing that happened was more file sharing."
This is simply obvious to any Slashdot reader.
Good: VCU has quarantined residence hall bandwidth. At my desk, I get great speed everywhere that hasn't been Slashdotted or Farked.
Bad: This is easily solved, but not with
Well
Welcome to state schools. Apparently, some time in the past year or two, someone (I believe Dell, as the university higher-ups are suckers for anything with Mike D.'s logo on it, regardless of if it's not the best purchasing decision for the situation) sold--and I mean
Apparently, VCU doesn't have the ability to do anything at the individual node level, like impose speed or usage caps, other than turning a port ON or OFF; the only thing we've been able to do is quarantine the res halls' subnets from from the rest of the university.
I say this because it seems logical that if we
At least, that's what I would have done, had I any control over the situation--every student gets, essentially, N amount of kilobits/sec. Something reasonable, something fair. It doesn't take a TON of bandwidth to be enough for students in the residence halls who need to check their grades, download assignments, and do research--even enough for gaming and doing light Internet file sharing. (Where inter-LAN sharing doesn't have that restriction, of course.)
The students are responsible for themselves, like the adults they technically are. Wanna trade files over KaZaA all day? Fine, it's your node allotment, use it any way you wish. Don't complain about slow Internet speeds anymore, 'cause it's clearly demonstrated that it's
Of course, I'm not stupid. That has issues associated with it, too. Another idea would be to put
No pun intended, this is all academic.
Everyone's at fault in a lot of universities, whether it's the students and a bad IT department or the students and bad adminstration. Here, the students want more to get work done and such, but when they get more, the
No, not everyone's abusing it. But as anyone on teh Intarweb knows, it's a very large percentage of the people. And even if it isn't, and the minority is hurting the majority, it's still up to BOTH the adminstration/IT people, to police their turf--and the students, to police themselves.
I'd be
-/-
Michael Watson
Apple Service Representative
Virginia Commonwealth University
http://www.vcu.edu/
I don't know what the law is here, but in Virginia, you still may be screwed.
...
I work for Virginia Commonwealth University. We have unique ID numbers for the students, staff, and faculty--not our SSNs
But every time you need something, almost ANYTHING, you have to give your SSN. Over the phone, in person, on a form, whatever.
When I got my university ID, some jackass had written down my SSN and NAME on a fucking Post-It and almost THREW IT AWAY when I got my little plastic card.
I said, "Whoa, give me that, dude. Don't throw it in the trash can." He looked at me like I was crazy.
No one around here understands why that kind of stuff is bad. I, on the other hand, ripped it into pieces and put it in two different trash cans.
Perhaps a bit paranoid, sure, but after I saw what happened to a friend of mine whose SSN and name were compromised (massive fraud around the city in his name, by some still-unknown individual), I don't care.
It's the same mentality that leads people not to password-protect their computers.
-/-
... Hit Software Update for the goodies.
Whee!
-/-
The dumpster is cheaper?
True.
Until you factor in any court costs/missed work/other expenses that come from you tossing a CRT into the trash.
What?
Yeah, that's right--in many states, if not most, it's illegal to just throw out CRTs. In some states it's a violation of hazardous waste disposal laws.
(Any Apple service provider will tell you that the proper way to dispose of a CRT is "within accordance of local hazardous waste disposal laws".)
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Mikey-San
-1, Troll
or
-1, Flamebait
or perhaps
-1, Overrated
Pick your poison. This post is really stupid. The Newton 2000 and 2100s were really awesome, and still impress people when you show them around the things.
Big deal that it's a "dead" platform. Some people still have them, like them, use them, and want to keep using them until they no longer work.
What should you care if they do just that? Are they somehow infringing on your ability to use whatever PDA you have?
What an asshat.
Think I'm a troll? One word. You.
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Mikey-San
Damn right coca is good. Where else can you get cocaine, but the coca plant? :-D
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Mikey-San
Yeah ... Can you say "spammer troll"?
Bleh. Just contact Microsoft directly at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh; EN-US;FEEDBACK
-/-
Mikey-San
TextEdit can do plain text.
Have a look under the Format menu.
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Mikey-San
That is /quite/ a nifty idea, the screensaver thing. (Assuming there's any security with the phone range thing at all.)
;-D
How about some more:
say "Get back to your desk you slacker" -- going out of range
say "Help me, he's coming right for me" -- coming into range
tell application "Safari"
set docList to index of every window as list
repeat with theWindow in docList
if URL of document theWindow contains "microsoft.com" then
quit
else if URL of document theWindow does not contain "microsoft.com" then
end if
end repeat
end tell
-- coming into range or going out of it!
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Mikey-San
"Liquor before beer."
"No, you don't want to find out if the Pop-Rocks-and-Pepsi urban legend is rooted in reality or not."
"Skip the prequels."
"Mod trolls down."
-/-
Mikey-San
I direct you to, no pun intended, /Applications/Utilities/Directory Access.
/etc/groups.
Authenticate and check "BSD Configuration Files". Now you can start using the BSD flat files, like
If I'm missing something, it's because it's early and even though I'm at my desk, I'm still at home in bed.
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Mikey-San
Ah, but they are looking out for me.
/means/ looking out for themselves. ;-)
Why?
Because looking out for the customer
Don't take my word for it. Go ask any successful business owner, local or non-local. (I know my bosses would tell you it's the truth.)
I try to have the same attitude with my clients, 'cause a happy client is a return client.
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Mikey-San
This happened to me last year.
Four weeks go by with me purchasing $10 or $20 on my card in total.
Suddenly, a big-ass purchase for a digital camera and some CF memory.
My card stopped working right after that. My bank had been paying attention to my spending habits, and saw an anomaly, so they suspended the card.
While I was happy that they were looking out for me--and themselves, since CC fraud hurts them, too--it still bothers me that someone (or something, if it was a computer program watching along at home) was tracking my spending habits.
Ups and downs, I suppose.
-/-
Mikey-San
Yes, this is exactly the bug that was squished flat.
;-)
I guarantee you Apple will always test logging out on portables from now on.
-/-
I mean, I know the PowerBook G4 gets pretty hot when it's running, but mine's never done /that!/ ;D
-/-
Mikey-San
And before someone makes a keyboard joke:
;D
s/becaue/because/
-/-
Why is Twirlip's comment here moderated as -1, Troll?
/this/ is certainly not one I would have tagged, had I any moderator points when I read it, becaue, and get this--
I've tagged lots of people as trolls before, and
He's right.
Having USB ports on the keyboard happens to be one of the nicest things I can think of about Apple's keyboards. It's so nice, in fact, that I can't get along well without them these days (no reason to reach around my PowerBook when I can just plug my Canon PowerShot into the side of the external keyboard I'm using), not to mention how other keyboard manufacturers have adopted the practice of including USB ports since Apple shipped the first iMac.
Twirlip's right on the money, here, whether the mod who tagged this one is an Apple fan or not.
Hope some lucky moderator gets to meta-moderate this one.
-/-
Mikey-San
You just posted that on Slashdot. Stop lying.
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Mikey-San
So Konqueror is foolish, as well?
It's not good to have multiple ways to do one thing? (I guess you like how so many sites are designed for IE, huh? Jackass.)
I can't believe the mods gave this guy +5. WTF, over.
I think it's a smart decision. Gecko is good, K is good. There's room for both.
That doesn't help him at all, though, because he needed to get data off the drive before formatting.
/then/ format the drive.
Of course Disk Utility can format the drive. That isn't the issue. The issue is that his drive was too full to perform a reinstallation because something went wrong somewhere--he needed to rescue data and
Wow, you don't read anything, do you?
-/-
Mikey-San
Here's a little experiment you can try at home:
/have/ to initialize anything it doesn't want to--remember that OF can specify what toolbox ROM image gets loaded and which doesn't.
/should/ have done before making an ass out of yourself:
v ic eManagers/pci_srvcs/pci_cards_drivers/PCI_BOOK.35. html
h tm l
Get a Power Mac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) Software Install CD.
Get a Power Mac G4 (Digital Audio) Software Install CD.
Compare the two Mac OS ROM files in the System Folder of each CD. See how they're different?
With each hardware revision--notice those two logic boards are different--Apple updates Mac OS 9 to boot on the damned thing.
They do it with OS X, too, but it's not nearly as apparent.
So, why do they do that? The 1-MB bootROM of NewWorld machines, of course. It contains Open Firmware instructions that initialize an OS from a boot device. Change the hardware in certain places, change the software to accomodate. (Note that this is not always the rule, but it's the general practice here.)
Simply put, in the end, if Apple doesn't want you booting OS 9, dammit, you won't. (At least, not without some supa-leet hacksorin'.) The bootROM doesn't
Yes, there is more OF code in the toolbox ROM image, and there's the bootinfo file in the master directory block, but what you're talking about is not something a low-level format will circumvent/solve/whatever.
Anyway, rather than exhaust myself explaining why you can't just low-level format a frickin' HD like you say--when have you ever needed to re-update the firmware on a Power Mac after a HD replacement?--I'll point you to some good reading you
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/hardware/De
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1167.
If I'm wrong, I would love to know where and why. If Apple can be circumvented, who cares what Quark says? (Then again, who cares, anyway? Quark can eat a fat one.)
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Mikey-San
I don't find that a flaw at all. On the contrary, the student should always keep the teacher on his or her toes ... Otherwise, no one's learning anything, and that's the whole point, right?
In time, the student will become the teacher. It's the teacher's job to learn from his or her students and make sure that doesn't happen just because some computers fall from the sky.
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Very cool, indeed!
Question to those who know: What happens if you turn journaling off, if anything at all?
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Oooh. Was not aware they're planning on adding that option only in 10.2.2 Server's Disk Utility's GUI.
:-(
:-)
Bummer.
Ah well, as long as there's $YOUR_PREFERRED_SHELL , everything's cool.
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