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  1. Re:Finally! on US House, Senate Agree on Anti-Spam Bill · · Score: 1

    > > Where does 95% of spam come from?
    >
    > The USA. Well, maybe not exactly 95%, but certainly the vast majority is
    > sent by people in the USA, plugging "products" targeted at US citizens.

    You're smoking crack. A good 40% of the world's spam is written in ideographic
    character sets (gb2312, big5, ...). Another 25% is written in Hangul or the
    Japanese Syllabary. About 25% is in English, and yes, most of *that* involves
    a US citizen or company in some way. The other 10% is an assortment of
    European and Slavic languages, Tagalog, or no language at all (messages with
    no body or only a URI, markov chains, viruses, random strings of digits,
    random octet streams, and so forth; most of these are not sales pitches and so
    are not covered under this bill).

    Interestingly, I have never received spam in an African or Hindustani language,
    as far as I am aware. The former makes sense, because no single African
    language is common enough, and anybody in Africa with access to a computer
    knows a little French or English, probably some of both. The latter I find
    a bit surprising. I would expect, all factors being equal, to receive some
    spam in Hindi, Urdu, or other Hindustani languages. There are trainloads of
    people who speak these languages, and I would think they'd be on average at
    least as likely to have access to email as a random person who speaks Spanish
    or Portuguese, yet I get plenty of spam in those languages. Maybe I'm not
    recognising it because of a lack of handling for those character sets on
    my system? That seems unlikely; I get the Asian $#@! just "fine". But I
    suppose it's possible. (It's not pure ignorance on my part; I know what
    Devanagari looks like -- not well enough to read it, but certainly plenty
    well enough that I'd know it if I saw it. Same goes for Arabic.)

  2. Re:great... wait... on US House, Senate Agree on Anti-Spam Bill · · Score: 1

    > How is this not an international
    > please-spam-me,-here's-my-favorite-and-most-privat e-email-address list?

    Yeah, but they already have my address. That battle has been lost. I can't
    keep my address away from the spammers and still let people have it who have
    a legitimate need to contact me.

    Get a new address? Yeah, I could, but if I want it to actually be useful,
    I have to make it public, which means the spammers will get it. Quickly.

    Sure, if you only exchange email with a closed set of friends and family, you
    might not want to give out your address to the list, but if you only exchange
    email with a closed set of people, you don't have a big spam problem. Many
    of us for one reason or another (or several, in my case) *have* to make our
    addresses public. I maintain a usenet FAQ. news.answers moderator policy
    requires that my address be publically disclosed in the From field. I have
    content on my website that people need to be able to easily contact me about.
    I have to make the address public there. At work, patrons need to be able to
    easily contact me about technical issues.

    In short, a secret email address is no good to me. I need a public one.

  3. Re:Finally! on US House, Senate Agree on Anti-Spam Bill · · Score: 1

    > This has been a long time coming, I hope we're actually able to enforce it.

    Some parts of it are unenforceable, and most of the rest will be difficult
    to enforce on spammers who operate entirely outside the US, but nevertheless
    this seems like a useful bill to me. Some particulars...

    > It permits, but does not require, the Federal Trade Commission to establish
    > a "do not spam" registry

    The FTC has to know this would be a very popular thing for them to do. They
    won't do it right away, because they'll want to get some data on how well the
    DNC registry is working, how it impacts the ecconomy (my guess: not at all),
    and so forth first. But having a law that specifically permits them to set
    up a national do-not-spam registry is a potentially very meaningful thing.

    > overrides many state law

    The state laws in question were in practice going to be virtually impossible
    to enforce in any meaningful way, IMO. Not that they were bad, but because
    they were *state* laws, there are too many ways to get around them. A
    federal law, even if it's technically weaker, is preferable, because you
    only have to determine that anyone in the US is involved with sending the
    spam in question and you know you have something actionable. Also, the
    provision that allows a national do-not-spam registry will (if such a
    registry is in fact eventually established) take the teeth out of opt-out.
    The main reason opt-out is bad is because if you have to opt out from each
    spammer's list, you never get done opting out. If you can opt out once and
    have done, it's very nearly as good as an opt-in setup.

    > The final bill says spammers may send as many "commercial electronic mail
    > messages" as they like--as long as the messages are obviously advertisements
    > with a valid U.S. postal address or P.O. box and an unsubscribe link at the
    > bottom. Junk e-mail essentially would be treated like junk postal mail,
    > with nonfraudulent e-mail legalized until the recipient chooses to
    > unsubscribe.

    This is mostly useless. (A valid unsubscribe link is no good if one in
    five hundred of them gets you on the "we know this address is read by a
    human" list.) However, the valid US address requirement is a good thing.
    That'll make 'em easier to track, not to mention easier to filter.

    Things it prohibits:
    > Falsifying e-mail header information

    This, assuming it's done right (in terms of the wording being such that
    it really prohibits falsification without preventing, say, using your
    home email address in From when sending from work), is priceless. Just
    prohibiting the forging of Received: headers would be a major step forward.
    Yes, you'll still get mail from Asia with all the headers forged six ways,
    but if you can tie it to a US company, you can go after them. Well, not
    individually, probably, but in class action. Anyway, A US company will
    have a hard time justifying the risk. That's a good thing.

    > using either a mail server or open relay to "deceive or mislead
    > recipients" about the origin of a commercial e-mail message

    This provision betrays at least some technical knowledge. Somebody involved
    with the formation of this bill knows more about the issue than would normally
    be expected of a politician. It's a good provision. I hope this becomes law.

    > Also outlawed is registering for "5 or more" e-mail accounts or "2 or more
    > domain names" with false information and using them to send commercial
    > e-mail messages

    This won't be directly useful for individual consumers, but I think it might
    make it easier for ISPs who aren't spam-friendly to keep the spammers out.
    It certainly doesn't *hurt* anything. Nobody has a legitimate privacy need
    for more than five addresses with falsified credentials. A coherent argument
    could be made for one such address (I'm not saying I'd agree, only that the

  4. Re:How about Phoenix? on Universities Dispute with Red Hat over 'Fedora' · · Score: 1

    If I were to compile a list of the top ten most overused trademarks, words used
    more times for more products and services in more industries than could possibly
    be considered reasonable, Phoenix would be probably second on the list, after
    "Zip". "Zip", of course, is the ultimate indefensible trademark, having been
    used dozens of times in the software industry alone, for everything from
    virtual machines to compression and archival to modem software. Of course
    it's also been used for cleaning products, shoes, food and drink, ... I
    honestly believe "The" is at least as defensible a trademark at this point as
    "Zip" (assuming you only try to protect "The" used as the product name, not
    every use of the word in product descriptions). Phoenix is not far behind.

  5. Re:Trademarks... on Universities Dispute with Red Hat over 'Fedora' · · Score: 1

    > The example I've always seen is that you cannot trademark the word "orange"

    There is a qualitative difference in frequency of use between "orange" and
    "fedora". "orange" is a third-tier word (first-tier words being the three
    articles and one or two coordinating conjunctions, and second-tier words
    being ones it's hard to write a chapter without using, such as "this" and
    "see"). "hat" is probably fourth-tier (someone studying English as a foreign
    language might get weeks into the course before learning it; "orange" is a
    first-week word almost for sure), and "fedora" a good-sized step beyond that.

    Trademarking "orange" in pretty much any industry is fairly unreasonable.
    "hat" would be borderline; you surely couldn't get away with it in any industry
    related in even the most tangential way to clothing or other accessories, but
    you conceivably might be able to trademark "Hat" as a brand of gasoline or
    software, perhaps. Maybe. (Red Hat, of course, combines two words, and so
    is more defensible than merely "Hat" would be, to say nothing of "Red" by
    itself, which obviously wouldn't fly.)

    "fedora" you couldn't trademark as a brand of hat, and probably not as a line
    of clothing or personal accessory either, but in an unrelated field such as
    cuisine (*that* could make an interesting ad campaign) or software it's almost
    certainly a fairly trademarkeable word, with the obvious limitation that you
    can't take over the word entirely for uses outside the industry in question
    (i.e., Red Hat can certainly not go after people selling hats with the word
    fedora on the label, and they'd be on pretty shaky ground going after someone
    selling cuisine or toothpaste, but software is another matter).

    All of this sidesteps the question of *which* entity has the right to use
    the "Fedora" trademark in the realm of software. It looks as if the
    universities have reason to believe they have a case, but I don't have
    enough solid and verifiable information to know for certain.

    For the record, I have a lot more sympathy for this Fedora project than for
    the Firebird DB people, on the grounds that "Fedora" is a much less common
    trademark than "Firebird". "Firebird" has been used, used again, used to
    death, and then used some more in roughly every single industry known to man,
    often by several companies in the same industry. Except *maybe* in the
    automobile industry, I seriously doubt that any company can make a trademark
    on the word "Firebird" stick. (Though, if there's a word that's been used
    *more* often as a product name in *more* industries, Phoenix is it.) OTOH,
    "Fedora" seems unusual enough to be defensible, for a software product.

  6. Re:Alternate Names on Universities Dispute with Red Hat over 'Fedora' · · Score: 1

    > [how many PHB's or joe-sixpacks or even college students do you really
    > expect know what the hell a Fedora is anyway]

    Most of them. After the stocking cap and the baseball cap, it's probably the
    third most common and well-known variety of hat. Well, maybe fourth after
    the cowboy hat.

    Articles of clothing tend to be on the whole fairly well understood by most
    folks. People who have trouble with the concept that Mexico isn't one of the
    United States can nevertheless tell you what a sombrero is, no problem.
    People who don't know exactly what cargo is still know what cargo pants are.
    I think most people know what a fedora or a stetson is, too.

  7. Re:They will lose. on SCO Hints at *BSD Lawsuits Next Year, And More · · Score: 1

    > AT&T tried. They lost their case

    Yes, but SCO *has* to attack that verdict and get it turned over. I made the
    prediction weeks ago that they'd have to try to get it overturned. That was
    before I knew they intended to go after BSD directly. The whole AT&T/BSD
    settlement is seriously harmful to their case in the IBM suit, because the bulk
    of their case rests on "Intellectual Property" that they ostensibly obtained
    from Novell who ostensibly bought it from AT&T but which AT&T had previously
    *lost* in court. Yeah, yeah, there's the contract angle, but their claims are
    too grandiose for that. They need those IP rights that AT&T lost to UC
    Berkeley. Without them, the whole thing is (eventually) going nowhere for
    them. So, yeah, of *course* they're going to try to get the AT&T/BSD
    decision changed. I'm not sure *how* they're planning to do that, and I
    suspect they're still trying to figure that out themselves, but it's something
    they've got to try, unless they want to put their tail between their legs and
    go back to the obscurity from whence they came.

  8. Re:Why not use Z-Code / TADS? on 2003 IFComp Award Winners Announced · · Score: 2, Informative

    > Because some authors are familiar with a certain programming environment,
    > and lack the time / skill to learn a new one?

    This is a FAQ. The short answer is, it would take more than 50 times as long
    (that's a conservative estimate) to write a moderatley decent parser (in *any*
    language, even Perl) as it would take to learn e.g. Inform, which is quite
    easy and has the additional benefit of coming with a more than merely
    moderately decent parser. (The Inform standard library parser is the best
    natural language parser I have ever seen, by a significant margin.)

    The only real reason to write IF in a general-purpose language is if you
    specifically want to spend most of your effort writing the parser, as an
    exercise. Yes, there are people who do it for this reason.

    Every year there's somebody who enters the competition who wrote in a non-IF
    language for some *other* reason (usually, the one you gave). Every time the
    reviews of that game concentrate on how the parser sucked so badly that the
    game was basically unplayable; seldom is very much said about the story or
    the characters or the atmosphere of such a game, and what is said about the
    puzzles is generally dominated by parser issues, of the "I knew what I had
    to do, but I couldn't figure out the $@#! syntax" sort.

    You can read the DM and teach yourself Inform in a week. If you write a
    decent natural-language parser in less than a year, you need to win a much
    larger prize than the IF competition is giving out.

  9. Router / Proxy logging, if you must on Rules for Teenage Internet Access? · · Score: 1

    First off, the *good* solution for this problem is to put the internet in the
    living room or family room or someplace like that. This then applies equally
    to everyone (parents, teens, younger kids) and so while they can complain about
    wanting it in their room, they can't produce a coherent argument to the effect
    that you're being tyrannical by keeping it in a "public" area, as long as it's
    a consistent policy. Note that this does not preclude having more than one
    computer, so that more than one person can use it at a time -- in the same
    room together. (This is great for network games...)

    Failing that, however, he who controls the connectivity controls all. If all
    the computers go through one connection, whoever controls the router can as
    necessary (or as desired, for that matter) log and monitor anything. If it's
    only the web you are concerned about (which would be a bit naive, frankly),
    you could block outgoing port 80 to force all the browsers through a proxy
    that logs everything. For that matter, the router itself, assuming it's a
    PC (with BSD or whatever) functioning as a router, can just log all the
    traffic that goes through; even with pretty small logsize limits, you have
    a few minutes to check anything. (Except encrypted traffic, but the only
    thing they're *likely* to be doing that would be encrypted, unless they're
    computer geeks, is https. I'm not certain, but I *think* you can put https
    traffic through a proxy.) One note about this: you do NOT want to keep
    the logging a secret. If you want them to be open about their use of the
    internet, you MUST be open about your use and monitoring of it. Openness
    goes both ways. "Do as I say, not as I do" doesn't work.

    As for the people saying "trust them", that may be the right approach with
    some kids, but others will require you to take a more active approach. It
    sort of depends on the kid. Some kids by age 10 have matured enough to have
    the discernment to use the internet in a responsible fashion; others you'll
    have to watch closely until they hit 18 and move out. This partly depends on
    how they've been raised up to that point, but it also partly just depends on
    the kid's personality. Note also that sometimes you'll have to monitor a
    kid you otherwise wouldn't have to, in order to avoid favoritism when a
    sibling needs to be watched. Fortunately, the kids who don't need to be
    watched will generally not chaffe under being watched. It's the ones you
    *need* to watch who don't *want* to be watched. (And, turning that around,
    if the kid really hates for you to know what he's doing, you've got a
    problem on your hands. Except in the bathroom, of course; very few kids
    want to be watched in the bathroom, and if they *did*, well, that would
    actually be scary.)

    Also you should be aware that they *will* be using the internet outside the
    home, in friends' homes, the public library, or wherever else they find it.
    But you knew that already.

  10. Re:IBM is evil on IBM Releases Desktop Linux Presentation · · Score: 1

    Well, IBM was one of the early pioneers in popularising FUD campaigns. That
    could be construed as evil. Okay, so that's a few years in the past now.

  11. Re:Powerpoint.... on IBM Releases Desktop Linux Presentation · · Score: 1

    > Maybe before developing for Linux, IBM should develop an alternative
    > to Powerpoint

    What for? Wouldn't it be better to develop something that's actually useful?
    Sure, in 1990, using the computer to present a glorified slideshow with
    cheesy transitional effects and swooshing sounds as the bullet points slide
    in was all modern and hip, but now that every eight-year-old and his dog has
    done it, the novelty has worn off, and it looks like what it is: chintzy.
    Power Pointless is passe. If the presentation is related to software, you
    do a live demo. If not, you print your visual aids on posterboard and/or
    distribute handouts. Much classier, assuming you do a decent job of it.

  12. OpenOffice. Really. on Tools for Publishing in Multiple Formats? · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you write your own major mode for Emacs, all these issues just go away.

    However, if you are lacking lisp-fu and absolutely must have a GUI-based
    WYSIWYG editor, OpenOffice may be a possible solution. You'll have to avoid
    workflows that result in creating styles with meaningless names. (For example,
    you can't just highlight some random text and start formatting it in various
    arbitrary ways. Instead, define your styles properly with names using the
    style catalog, and then apply your named styles to blocks of text. The styles
    you define should represent things that have meaning independent of the format,
    so that you can sensibly convert them into the various target formats.)

    Getting the XML out of an OO document is a simple matter of renaming it from
    foo.sxw to foo.zip and unzipping it. You can then use any XML parser you
    like (e.g., one of the XML modules off of CPAN) to transform it into DocBook
    or whatever. All of this can be automated.

  13. Re:4500 vs. 2700? on XL Compiler Bootstrapped · · Score: 1

    > That's a huge difference in line count between the two versions.

    Huge? Hardly. Statistically speaking, it's barely significant. It's
    within one order of magnitude, for crying out loud.

    If they'd written it in Perl, it'd be three hundred lines including comments
    and some clown over at perlmonks.org would be trying to golf it down small
    enough to fit into a signature.

  14. Re:CaptainAx? More like FootSoldierRubish on Security Affecting Microsoft's Bottom Line · · Score: 1

    > a computer device should not expose an user to nastiness and it should not
    > be possible to use it to launch attacks

    Umm, actually, *nix is better able to be used to launch attacks than Windows.
    Once you get control of it. The inherent network transparency and the more
    potent OOTB toolset make it far more dangerous in the wrong hands. *nix admins
    have to rely on their ability to make it hard for an attacker to get control of
    the system in the first place.

  15. Re:What's the big deal? on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    Also, LOTR does not inspire stuff like this.

  16. Re:What's the big deal? on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > (except *maybe* the bible but I think he beat that too?)

    No, not even close. LOTR is a massively major piece of literature, formitive
    for an entire genre, on par with Hamlet, the Illiad, and a very small handful
    of other major works -- but it does not approach the Bible, not in terms of
    the number of copies printed, not in terms of the number of people who have
    read it, not in terms of the number of times it has been translated, not in
    terms of the number of hours people spend studying it, and not in terms of
    the influence it has had on other literature. In my house we have two
    complete copies of LOTR, plus an extra copy of FOTR. We also have two of
    The Hobbit, one Silmarillion, a Smith of Wotten Major and Farmer Giles of
    Ham, and a Tolkein Reader. Care to guess how many copies of the Bible we've
    got sitting around? (Hint: more than all those put together, easily.)
    Care to guess which sees more use?

    This is not to demean LOTR. It's one of perhaps three or four works in the
    English language that people who don't speak English natively might seriously
    want to learn English in order to study (international trade language issues
    aside). That's a big deal. There are three or four such works in Greek
    (the New Testament, the Illiad, and Socrates' Dialogues (I don't consider
    Elements to be literature per se)), several in Sanskrit, a couple in Latin,
    some poetry in French, and a small handful of other works in assorted
    languages. Pretty elite company. (Then there's Klingon... but Trekkies
    are fanatics.) Nobody's learning English so they can better understand the
    Matrix. But *lots* of people learn *two* languages -- both of them *dead*
    languages -- for the sole purpose of studying the Bible. A few of people
    even learn a third one (Aramaic) for studying just a few passages (mainly,
    the middle part of Daniel). Then they spend decades of their lives,
    double-digit hours per week, studying it. Thousands of people do this.
    LOTR gets pretty good devotion, but not like that.

  17. Re:What's the big deal? on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > Even 9+ hours isn't enough.

    Not by half. The movies don't *tell* the story. They sort of expose you to
    bits and *pieces* of the story. Entire major action scenes are ommitted, to
    say *nothing* of important subplots, major characters, huge amounts of dialog
    and character development, ... in short, most of the story is left out, in
    order to somehow *squeeze* the thing into nine measley hours.

    It's a fourty-hour story, at least, if you read it. It could probably have
    been squeezed into eighteen hours (six three-hour installments) for movie
    purposes and would have been excellent and not felt slow at all. That's
    leaving out the entire wealth of information in the appendix, almost all of
    the information from the other books (including Bilbo's There and Back Again),
    and some of the less essential details from the main body of LOTR, as well as
    reducing the descriptive passages to quick camera shots and other usual types
    of movie-adaptation-shortening, and condensing a lot of the dialog to the
    minimum amount that would convey the most interesting and vital information.

    If you doubt this, you need to read the books. There's a LOT more stuff in
    there than the movies portrayed. Six books, actually -- bundled as two books
    per volume, traditionally, with the appendix added to the last volume. There
    ought to have been six movies: "Flight to Rivendell", "The Nine Walkers",
    "Isengard", "Road to Mordor", "Gondor's Defense", "Mount Doom". Only the
    last might reasonably have been shorter than three hours, without leaving
    out very much important stuff. (The ending of the book has a lot of long,
    anticlimactic partings, which could have been greatly abbreviated for the
    movies, without losing a great deal, though they are included in the books
    for good reasons.)

  18. Re:What's the big deal? on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > "Hamlet" didn't provoke any life-altering questions about the state
    > of reality... it's still a pretty darn good story.

    Hamlet may not discuss the nature of reality, but it does discuss some
    equally interesting questions, most notably the nature of sanity. IMO,
    it is Shakespeare's best work.

  19. Re:What's the big deal? on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > IT'S JUST A GREAT STORY

    There's one thing you may have missed: it's a little bit on the subtle side
    (particularly compared to the Matrix, which is about as subtle as water is
    dry), but LOTR is intended to be viewed initially as a story, but, once you
    get into it and develop mimesis, you are intended to think of it as history,
    or, perhaps, something out of prehistory, of our own Earth.

    LOTR does also have philosophical elements to it, but they aren't the point.
    The philosophical questions (e.g., regarding the role of fate) are approached
    in the normal, everyday sort of way as the characters wrestle with the events
    of their lives.

  20. Re:Not Ridiculous at All on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > So yeah, it was rather powerful.

    Indeed. Samwise carried the thing once, for less than a day, yet even after
    the ring and its master were destroyed, he was never the same and ultimitely
    left Middle Earth and went west over the sea, like the immortal elves, after
    Rose died.

  21. Re:There is no big deal in the Matrix on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > To call the ending "luck" is simply not fair to Tolkien

    No, it doesn't. I'm not sure there's any luck there at all, but it's
    certainly not pure luck. It is Frodo's mercy (which he acquires after Gandalf
    speaks to him about Bilbo's pity), in combination with a certain minimum of
    shrewdness (in forcing the oath) that results in, err, the result. Fate,
    perhaps, but there are definitely more causes than blind luck. You could as
    well say that Bilbo found the ring by blind luck, but we know better: the
    ring chose to leave with him, rather than remain in the cave, because its
    master was gaining power (and, in fact, was about to be driven out of Dul
    Guldir by the White Council and return to Mordor). Further, Bilbo didn't
    end up in that part of the cave where the ring was by blind luck, either. He
    was only present on the journey at all because of who he was (a relative of
    the Old Took), and the party went down that tunnel because Gandalf led them
    there (which he was able to do only because Bilbo's scream warned him), and
    Bilbo was separated from the party because he was being carried -- again,
    because of who he was, a hobbit. Note that: it was because he was a hobbit
    that he was the member of the party who found the ring. It comes out in the
    LOTR, later, that hobbits of all the races are least corrupted by the ring
    and best able to endure its influence. Fate? Yes, there's a heavy dose of
    fate in LOTR.

    It is also interesting that Smeagol (Gollum before he found the ring) was
    a Stor, and the Tooks of all Hobbit families have the largest amount of Stor
    blood in them. (You have to read the appendix of LOTR to get some of this.)
    So the story of the One Ring is very much a story of Stors, and of how they
    differ from the other races generally and men particularly. Bonus points if
    you pick up the implication that the English are (quite remotely) descended
    at least partly from Hobbits. (This last point requires reading between
    the lines somewhat, but I'm almost certain Tolkein intended this conclusion.)

  22. Re:What's the big deal? on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > I don't think you can compare it to LOTR in it's depth. Maybe it's because
    > I've read the books...

    It's because you've read the books, defnitely. The LOTR movies are so
    abbreviated, they leave out too much for you to pick up on the depth, unless
    you have also read the books. The first movie is like a race, and the second
    is like an action adventure. Neither contains much of the lore that makes
    the books so interesting.

  23. Re:The Bullshit Answer on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > In the movie (and the book), Gandalf told a moth to fetch Gwaihir.

    Moth? No, it was Radaghast in the book.

  24. Re:What's the big deal? on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    > Why do people lash out viciously at movies that actually make an attempt a
    > real depth (Matrix), while simultaneously holding up the LotR as the
    > cinematic "Gold Standard?"

    Okay, it may be a bit hard to tell from just the movies, but if you read the
    books, LOTR has a good deal more depth than the Matrix. If they hadn't had to
    shorten the movies so much, they might have done a little better. (When I
    first heard they were going to do the LOTR in three movies, I was disgusted.
    There's enough materiel in them for at *least* five movies, and that's if you
    cut everything you can cut, cut some more, and make the movies 3 hours long.
    The movies as they stand don't do much more than give you a small taste; they
    certainly don't have the rich epic historical "lore" flavour of the books.)

    > But there's really nothing cool to discuss about them, is there?

    If you want to know enough to discuss them, you need to read the books. The
    movies are just showing you snapshots; they don't *explain* anything. They
    don't even include all the major *action* scenes, much less the things worth
    discussing.

    Does the Matrix have depth? A little. It goes into the nature of reality,
    the basic epistemological question, and has a little time left for the
    characters to disagree about the role of fate. The LOTR (books) also
    discuss all of these things, and a great many more things as well. The
    discerning reader will discover (among other things) that Tolkein intended
    for you to realise that these events are deep in the past of our Earth, a
    part of our own prehistory. You can see it in the etymology of words, in
    bits and pieces of lore that we've inherited as small sayings and nursery
    rhymes that don't make complete sense until you read LOTR, and in the small
    bits of information that come out in the interactions between the characters,
    which require reading the whole work for you to piece them together and get
    the whole picture.

    If you haven't read the LOTR books, you should. They're easily the single
    most significant work in the fantasy genre, and formitive for almost all
    other works in the genre; that in itself is good enough reason to read them.
    The movies don't begin to do them justice.

  25. Re:Long movies and Intermissions on LOTR: Two Towers Extended Edition Reviewed · · Score: 1

    First off, the average includes females (who have a couple of extra organs
    crowding the bladder), children (who just have a smaller capacity generally),
    and the elderly (ditto). I suspect 32oz capacity is common for an adult male.
    Second, I think you'd be surprised at how much perspiration is normal; I
    doubt half of what you drink ends up in your bladder, on average, though of
    course it varies from person to person and from day to day based on an
    assortment of factors.

    Is 64oz capacity extra-large? Probably, but the other poster seemed to be
    claiming that 32oz was more than twice the maximum anyone can handle, which
    seems absurd to me.