Its not even an arguement as to whether or not IM or IE or WMP etc... comes bundled w/ windows. Every OS has its installed programs - they can be uninstalled.
~*~ HOWEVER ~*~
1 f**king MSWindows security update or a service pack later, the sh*t's all back.
That's what pisses me off. Especially in a working/commercial environment
thats going to be a growing problem for Microsoft 'cause the market is already saturated w/ MC**s that making them a dime'o dozen. Hell, I would hire a dozen for that price (they could replace heatsinks and install desktops and stuff). . . leaves more funds for hiring one or two seasoned multiplatformed techs.
"Your mockery of it reflects poorly on your journalistic credibility."
True. Though it may also be a reflection of the authors ignorance of the entire subject (be it copyright laws; GPL; GNU; OSS; etc.). regurgitating FAQ sheets and reports without real understanding of content seems to be the "norm" when it comes to journalistic integrety.
I agree that the results are skewed BUT you neglected to also mention the fact that when presented with the option to send the error report to micro$oft, many people don't bother answering "yes".
"they also want to use an operating system that does not suck ass. So Linux is out for them, you see."
Do you lack the intelligence needed for responding w/ a valid argument or are you just one of the sheep who hasn't what it takes to learn anything that doesn't have a collection of '...for dummies' books. I would have posted anonymously too.
the operative word here is 'market'... because that is all MS is - and i will give them that, they are a great marketing company - it is where MS shines 'cause they certainly don't as a software company.
it's not a matter of what is grasped by the "brainiacs" or the "novice". the point of the matter is that the majority of the "Linux problems" that get sighted on a regular basis ie: not user friendly, confusing installs, driver/module issues; they are resolved daily by those of us who know linux.
I honestly don't care if linux is popularized on the desktop side. If you aren't smart enough to be able to use it...Don't. But rest assured, when the "point&click People" are pointing and clicking - traversing the internet, they are probably doing so on a Unix/Linux powered machine. . . and that is why the Unices own the internet.
Linux is for Literate... once you become literate it is a very powerful OS.
I tire of all these MS amatures (the point&click People)... the truth is, most of them are only as smart as their Microsoft-Press books and they tend to lash out when they realize that they are under-educated.
as most of your exasperatingly long comment is full of sh*t you read out of a magazine - your bible or what?? I can tell from your rantings that you've never so much as installed linux let alone used it or configured it.
so get the knot out of your panties and leave the debates to the people with informed, educated, and original opinions.
when i got into the industry about five years ago - with absolutely no formal introduction or experience with computers, I too went the way of windows. Since such time, I have done ongoing contract work for a local school division, was employed by the local college and am now a sysadmin for a ever growing health district. I have configured and administered Linux (whatever flavor) -> Novel -> UNIX (Solaris) -> Mac? -> MS Windows.
At the Workstation end, I like Window 2000 (very stable) especially since workstation users typically only use one or two apps - ever. At the server side though, I am LINUX all the way. it uses fewer resources; its better adaptable to multi-platform networks; no need to reboot for reasons other than adding/replacing hardware (Novel is the only thing i've seen with better uptimes than linux); it's also more securable and more scaleable.
I dont see Windows severs "crashing" too often but we have all seen the swap on NT fill-up (running out of virtual memory)and needing to be rebooted simply because it stops responding. thats the way of windows. Not to mention since MS' VDM, many still used DOS apps are now utililizing 98-100% of the CPU - whats that about??
MS should stick to thier niche and improve upon that - the desktop; 'cause they're very good at it - But they're archaically behind on the server front and should leave it to Unix/Linux.
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another problem is that the antivirus companies won't treat spyware like trojans
mcafee v8 & EPO does - but the resource usage is unbelievable.
Its not even an arguement as to whether or not IM or IE or WMP etc... comes bundled w/ windows. Every OS has its installed programs - they can be uninstalled.
~*~ HOWEVER ~*~
1 f**king MSWindows security update or a service pack later, the sh*t's all back.
That's what pisses me off. Especially in a working/commercial environment
thats going to be a growing problem for Microsoft 'cause the market is already saturated w/ MC**s that making them a dime'o dozen. Hell, I would hire a dozen for that price (they could replace heatsinks and install desktops and stuff). . . leaves more funds for hiring one or two seasoned multiplatformed techs.
By the look in his eyes, I would say day 3 of a weeks supply of coke
yes, please. . .
we don't want to exhaust this thread do we?
btw, we have lots of beaver up hear in canuckland. even the biguns that'll keep you warm@night.
...Great, you went and ruined the entire movie for everyone who hasn't seen it... You shoulda let watching the movie ruin it for them!!
I didn't see any windoze blue screening or ilegal operation errors. . . The effects were probably created using a linux box . . .
and this from a company who, a decade ago, said the internet was going nowhere.
ignorance IS bliss i guess - pull your head outta your ass and give it a shake
"Your mockery of it reflects poorly on your journalistic credibility."
True. Though it may also be a reflection of the authors ignorance of the entire subject (be it copyright laws; GPL; GNU; OSS; etc.). regurgitating FAQ sheets and reports without real understanding of content seems to be the "norm" when it comes to journalistic integrety.
Ya know! Like CNN.
I agree that the results are skewed BUT you neglected to also mention the fact that when presented with the option to send the error report to micro$oft, many people don't bother answering "yes".
Might I suggest KNOPPIX.
"they also want to use an operating system that does not suck ass. So Linux is out for them, you see."
Do you lack the intelligence needed for responding w/ a valid argument or are you just one of the sheep who hasn't what it takes to learn anything that doesn't have a collection of '...for dummies' books.
I would have posted anonymously too.
I have an LCD projector and a 11'x 8' silverscreen in my basement.
give me a DVDrip and popcorn and i couldn't be happier - who wants to pay to go to a movie theatre anyway.
GO LTSP. . . it will give you the option of trimming down the workstations and keeping a central control at the server end
"And that is why Microsoft owns the market"
the operative word here is 'market'... because that is all MS is - and i will give them that, they are a great marketing company - it is where MS shines 'cause they certainly don't as a software company.
it's not a matter of what is grasped by the "brainiacs" or the "novice". the point of the matter is that the majority of the "Linux problems" that get sighted on a regular basis ie: not user friendly, confusing installs, driver/module issues; they are resolved daily by those of us who know linux.
I honestly don't care if linux is popularized on the desktop side. If you aren't smart enough to be able to use it...Don't. But rest assured, when the "point&click People" are pointing and clicking - traversing the internet, they are probably doing so on a Unix/Linux powered machine. . . and that is why the Unices own the internet.
Linux is for Literate... once you become literate it is a very powerful OS.
... the truth is, most of them are only as smart as their Microsoft-Press books and they tend to lash out when they realize that they are under-educated.
I tire of all these MS amatures (the point&click People)
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BLAH. . . BLAH. . . BLAH
as most of your exasperatingly long comment is full of sh*t you read out of a magazine - your bible or what?? I can tell from your rantings that you've never so much as installed linux let alone used it or configured it.
so get the knot out of your panties and leave the debates to the people with informed, educated, and original opinions.
In partial defence of the newly employed one:
when i got into the industry about five years ago - with absolutely no formal introduction or experience with computers, I too went the way of windows. Since such time, I have done ongoing contract work for a local school division, was employed by the local college and am now a sysadmin for a ever growing health district. I have configured and administered Linux (whatever flavor) -> Novel -> UNIX (Solaris) -> Mac? -> MS Windows.
At the Workstation end, I like Window 2000 (very stable) especially since workstation users typically only use one or two apps - ever. At the server side though, I am LINUX all the way. it uses fewer resources; its better adaptable to multi-platform networks; no need to reboot for reasons other than adding/replacing hardware (Novel is the only thing i've seen with better uptimes than linux); it's also more securable and more scaleable.
I dont see Windows severs "crashing" too often but we have all seen the swap on NT fill-up (running out of virtual memory)and needing to be rebooted simply because it stops responding. thats the way of windows. Not to mention since MS' VDM, many still used DOS
apps are now utililizing 98-100% of the CPU - whats that about??
MS should stick to thier niche and improve upon that - the desktop; 'cause they're very good at it -
But they're archaically behind on the server front and should leave it to Unix/Linux.