not true. ad nauseum describes your response b/c you are trying to be clever rather than supplying any proof. What's wrong with shareware? Spyware? If you install developer who's app "spys" on you that's your fault for stupidity and his fault for unethical design. Why's it wrong when they say most commercial quality games are developed for windows? OpenOffice is built for windows, so is Apache, Tomcat, OpenSSH, and many others. There are many other freeware apps, maybe not as much, i'll give you that, but i'd need some objective figures, not b/c you say so or b/c you "saw a bunch o stuff" at freshmeat:P.
I'm not confident enough in AMYTHING to post the url anywhere:) Doing so is just asking for it and would get me in trouble anyway. I distrust all software, BTW. Like I said its 90% the admin and 10% the actual SW no matter how "secure" anyone says it is. And if you insist: www.nsa.gov :D, j/k
excellent points, i'm running a slack box now but my dad can barely connect to the internet with w98 let alone figure out what happened when the latest nvidia drivers lock up x calling for a nice cold reboot... linux is for us nerds and an alternative platform for a server. It IS an alternative for a desktop just not as good as windows b/c of support (yes i've tried mandrake and they unfortunately make it a practice to have a distro with everything but the kitchen sink that has a but load of buggy progs overshadowing the good stuff)...and alot of that is due to either it being supported for free and MS's dominance...
and i've had running a win2k server/IIS 5.1, w/ nntp http smtp and ftp completely open as well with windows updates every 10 days or so for 1 and a half times as long as what you said with not one successful attack. IMHO: it's 90% the admins fault for a rooted server.
Ahhh, Slackware i've only been using it for a few months but i can say this is the tightest distro nix i've ever used (tried *BSD, mandrake, and redhat). Like the slack motto says: it tried to be as unix like and conform to standard (like file system layout) as much as possible. A lot of things need to be configured after an install but that's the fun part for me that is so annoying for this guy, which i understand, though. In my case i had to setup X (using xf86config and trial-n-error:), adsl pppoe SW, intellimouse (w/scrolling support!), my inkjet printer, sendmail, my burner. I still have to get my USB camera working;). Mandrake and RedHat were ok for the average user to install and use (except for using a DSL/Cable(?) connection, *doh*). But the problem that i always emphasize is the (un)stability of the distros bundled programs themselves (especially the gnome stuff) like gnorpm(!), etc that are ridiculously easy to crash. Also they install crap the avg user doesn't need by default like apaches, postgreSQL, mySQL, sendmail, etc. I also agree with the annoying rpm messages that i even get under slack, with dependencies that are satisfied but fail anyway, and the windows equivalent of "dll-hell" with there being 15 different versions of libs... But my move to Slack and KDE3 is been very smooth and i am one satisfied monkey!
probably the best thing for non-MS systems may ironically be.NET since it is open, so that could only be a *good* thing for the linux community, right? But MS can still make important sw like office run only on windows.NET framework if they wanted, im sure...
Why do you say mono is better than dotgnu?
aren't they both trying to develop a c# compiler and a web service as well as the exact same framework libs as MS architecture on top of the open.net bytecode spec?
just asking:)
Wow, you hit it right on the nose.
Every time I hear the claim that linux (and its apps) are sooo much mmore stable than windows I chuckle to myself and remember when i logged into my rh install and my gnome panel refused to start ever again:P.
or the many times times i've seen silly spelling mistakes and grungy-looking unpolished apps...or the many times i've crashed gnorpm, pan, package manager, rh user manager, and literally dozens of other apps.
And also the biggest windows complain of "dll hell" is the thing that makes me roll on the floor histerically when I can't even just install the gnome base rpm without having a dozen dependency problems and needing to update/add those dozen libraries...pot. kettle. black. I agree that its free but don't go around saying things that you know aren't true.
These crappy apps that aren't tested and make it into all the popular distros really make a bad name for those many other stable apps like apache and xmms for a couple examples!!
Why would you post this? It serves no purpose as to annoy people. Sure, Linux isn't as polished as Windows, or has as advanced a kernel in design, but at least its free. Anyone can contribute to it. The only problem i see w/ Linux is that distros include apps that are ridiculously buggy (arhmm -- pkg man) and therefore give it a bad view in some desktop users. I dual boot mandrake and xp and do just fine. That other fellow's right, at least most linux installs ask whether or not to overwrite the mbr unlike windows. That's why I always install windows first. Have a great day.
Whoa, didn't say that the above wasn't true. It is obvious, but if you actually reread my post you'll see that i highlighted that communist are by definition atheists. See? pro-communist, anti-religion is where they share some ground.
Anyways, i thought someone would have something more substantial to say. (no offense, benj)
This restriction seems to be around pro-commie and anti-religion (same?) sites, but real "extremists" like terrorists or are using an unsecure woreldwide network to coordinate activity will simply use appro tools (ssh anyone?). I guess this is restricting spreading dissent and anti-democratic ideas, but i don't know if this is allowed by their constitution. Either way i think it's wrong. There are a bunch of stupid white supremesist, black supremists, nazi, and jap nationalists site around the nets, im sure. Most of it hosted in America and totally protected by free speech, right?
Really? You never had any trouble with those drivers they put out at first? God bless. I was a bit pissed when i had to take the last ditch effort of re-arranging my pci cards to let IRQ resource mingle into a sharing that didn't result in my machine locking up after trying to do any HD-intensive work (shared w/ ATA controller card:) I'm not remebering correctly but i think the prob i had was with sigma designs taking forever to release w2k drivers which also sucked at first.
Other than that, the SW was okay except for always having to adjust the "border" and what-not with every DVD i tried to watch:P
I've also heard some complain about image quality, but i never noticed anything except for maybe some weird almost entirely unnoticable skinny horizontal "blips". It is most noticable on a black/dark scene in a dvd.
tell me about it, i built my machine about 3 years ago with their Real Hollywood Plus mpeg decoder and only until at least a year afterwards did they have drivers that didn't cause the blue-screen o' death (to be fair, windows insisted on sharing the irq with a video card, which might have not helped either:) and not to mention their flaky DVD Station software...
Are MPEG-4 decoders even necessary these days with a 800+ mhz machines?
Right sorry Mosaic was the pre-nutscrape GUI webbrowser. was trying to think of what the windowing system was called?
Limited prototype -- it was actually in a commercial system Star and Alto that were unsuccessful. google: Xerox PARC, WIMP
IMHO, of course apple and MS both improved on an idea "stolen" from Xerox. i say "stolen" b/c xerox just gave it away and i don't think you can patent the idea of a windowing sys/GUI. They also stole the mouse from those bright engineers..."do you actually expect ppl to use something called a 'mouse'?"
putting "ummmm" in front of your post doesn't make your point more obvious-seeming or make me feel stupid:) It's just fluff
you're right, ms was not the first to introduce a windowing system, neither was apple -- xerox was i believe (with Mosaic or something). Watch your language please. It just weakens your already misled argument.
Missing the point? No highlighting, IDE, he panicked, i understand. Just asked a question about Emacs:D
Agreed that the "kid" should get used to a variety of dev environment...for somestuff like writing web pages or scripts or simple java classes i just used textpad, ultraedit, (x)emacs...
Emacs does have syntax highlighting right? In fact it seems it overdoes it:) Colors...look...at...all the pretty colors.
colors enhance the readability so much. Auto-complete is great for beginners so they can browse the interface of a library/class and great for advanced ppl who are lazy and just type the first few chars and then press alt-space.
A is the only nonsense rule up there:) I agree with the other two...productivity and maintainabilty is important and thats what and IDE/highlighting/completion are for. Lacking that doesn't make you a better coder, just a slower one IMHO.
if the list is impl as an array then a binary search as he said, he probably didn't mean a linked/doubly-linked list
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Yeah, I thought gnome 1 was pretty nice -- except for the time i logged in and my gnome panel refused to start -- kinda annoying. But i'm *sure* they fixed such things by now.
PS: Just wondering if someone can actually try this before saying it is better than windows XP or just leave god damn windows out of the discussion. Don't praise something by defecating on something else.
I have such vivid memories from BGII (including many funny ones) I Can't Wait for NWN!
Aye, as do I, especially from BG 2:) Even though it sounds fruity, I remember one of the romances w/ a party member. Like with Arie (that right?), when i wanted to "let her down" i was *actually* concerned about hurting her feelings! And the npc's interacting with each other felt like a real party.
Or the betrayl with Yoshimo (if you had him in your party). When Irenicus (yep, im a dork) addressed him, and told him how well he had done his job, my heart just sank an i actually felt like i was [figuratively] stabbed in the back!
That game and that series truly set the bar, beyond what i though i could get from an rpg...the product of ppl who love what they're doing.
The ending was also rewarding and truly well done. Makes me want to buy the expansion just to see what happens...aww nuts, there goes 20 bucks...
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not true. ad nauseum describes your response b/c you are trying to be clever rather than supplying any proof. :P.
What's wrong with shareware? Spyware? If you install developer who's app "spys" on you that's your fault for stupidity and his fault for unethical design.
Why's it wrong when they say most commercial quality games are developed for windows?
OpenOffice is built for windows, so is Apache, Tomcat, OpenSSH, and many others. There are many other freeware apps, maybe not as much, i'll give you that, but i'd need some objective figures, not b/c you say so or b/c you "saw a bunch o stuff" at freshmeat
I'm not confident enough in AMYTHING to post the url anywhere :) Doing so is just asking for it and would get me in trouble anyway.
:D, j/k
I distrust all software, BTW. Like I said its 90% the admin and 10% the actual SW no matter how "secure" anyone says it is.
And if you insist: www.nsa.gov
hehe, me too. weird ppl out there, glad I haven't left my house since 1984...
excellent points, i'm running a slack box now but my dad can barely connect to the internet with w98 let alone figure out what happened when the latest nvidia drivers lock up x calling for a nice cold reboot...
linux is for us nerds and an alternative platform for a server. It IS an alternative for a desktop just not as good as windows b/c of support (yes i've tried mandrake and they unfortunately make it a practice to have a distro with everything but the kitchen sink that has a but load of buggy progs overshadowing the good stuff)...and alot of that is due to either it being supported for free and MS's dominance...
and i've had running a win2k server/IIS 5.1, w/ nntp http smtp and ftp completely open as well with windows updates every 10 days or so for 1 and a half times as long as what you said with not one successful attack.
IMHO: it's 90% the admins fault for a rooted server.
Ahhh, Slackware i've only been using it for a few months but i can say this is the tightest distro nix i've ever used (tried *BSD, mandrake, and redhat). Like the slack motto says: it tried to be as unix like and conform to standard (like file system layout) as much as possible. :), adsl pppoe SW, intellimouse (w/scrolling support!), my inkjet printer, sendmail, my burner. I still have to get my USB camera working ;).
A lot of things need to be configured after an install but that's the fun part for me that is so annoying for this guy, which i understand, though. In my case i had to setup X (using xf86config and trial-n-error
Mandrake and RedHat were ok for the average user to install and use (except for using a DSL/Cable(?) connection, *doh*). But the problem that i always emphasize is the (un)stability of the distros bundled programs themselves (especially the gnome stuff) like gnorpm(!), etc that are ridiculously easy to crash. Also they install crap the avg user doesn't need by default like apaches, postgreSQL, mySQL, sendmail, etc.
I also agree with the annoying rpm messages that i even get under slack, with dependencies that are satisfied but fail anyway, and the windows equivalent of "dll-hell" with there being 15 different versions of libs...
But my move to Slack and KDE3 is been very smooth and i am one satisfied monkey!
Thunderchicken (a new processor from AMD) 1700 million clucks per second !! yuck yuck yuck :P
That's gold, linzeal -- Gold!
probably the best thing for non-MS systems may ironically be .NET since it is open, so that could only be a *good* thing for the linux community, right? But MS can still make important sw like office run only on windows .NET framework if they wanted, im sure...
fubinis' theorem...ahhhh :)
Why do you say mono is better than dotgnu? .net bytecode spec? :)
aren't they both trying to develop a c# compiler and a web service as well as the exact same framework libs as MS architecture on top of the open
just asking
Wow, you hit it right on the nose. :P.
Every time I hear the claim that linux (and its apps) are sooo much mmore stable than windows I chuckle to myself and remember when i logged into my rh install and my gnome panel refused to start ever again
or the many times times i've seen silly spelling mistakes and grungy-looking unpolished apps...or the many times i've crashed gnorpm, pan, package manager, rh user manager, and literally dozens of other apps.
And also the biggest windows complain of "dll hell" is the thing that makes me roll on the floor histerically when I can't even just install the gnome base rpm without having a dozen dependency problems and needing to update/add those dozen libraries...pot. kettle. black.
I agree that its free but don't go around saying things that you know aren't true.
These crappy apps that aren't tested and make it into all the popular distros really make a bad name for those many other stable apps like apache and xmms for a couple examples!!
Why would you post this? It serves no purpose as to annoy people. Sure, Linux isn't as polished as Windows, or has as advanced a kernel in design, but at least its free. Anyone can contribute to it. The only problem i see w/ Linux is that distros include apps that are ridiculously buggy (arhmm -- pkg man) and therefore give it a bad view in some desktop users. I dual boot mandrake and xp and do just fine. That other fellow's right, at least most linux installs ask whether or not to overwrite the mbr unlike windows. That's why I always install windows first. Have a great day.
Whoa, didn't say that the above wasn't true. It is obvious, but if you actually reread my post you'll see that i highlighted that communist are by definition atheists. See? pro-communist, anti-religion is where they share some ground.
Anyways, i thought someone would have something more substantial to say. (no offense, benj)
In the U.S. the laws tend to protect extremists at the cost of our freedoms
i don't understand, elaborate please.
This restriction seems to be around pro-commie and anti-religion (same?) sites, but real "extremists" like terrorists or are using an unsecure woreldwide network to coordinate activity will simply use appro tools (ssh anyone?). I guess this is restricting spreading dissent and anti-democratic ideas, but i don't know if this is allowed by their constitution. Either way i think it's wrong. There are a bunch of stupid white supremesist, black supremists, nazi, and jap nationalists site around the nets, im sure. Most of it hosted in America and totally protected by free speech, right?
Really? You never had any trouble with those drivers they put out at first? God bless. I was a bit pissed when i had to take the last ditch effort of re-arranging my pci cards to let IRQ resource mingle into a sharing that didn't result in my machine locking up after trying to do any HD-intensive work (shared w/ ATA controller card :) I'm not remebering correctly but i think the prob i had was with sigma designs taking forever to release w2k drivers which also sucked at first.
Other than that, the SW was okay except for always having to adjust the "border" and what-not with every DVD i tried to watch :P
I've also heard some complain about image quality, but i never noticed anything except for maybe some weird almost entirely unnoticable skinny horizontal "blips". It is most noticable on a black/dark scene in a dvd.
tell me about it, i built my machine about 3 years ago with their Real Hollywood Plus mpeg decoder and only until at least a year afterwards did they have drivers that didn't cause the blue-screen o' death (to be fair, windows insisted on sharing the irq with a video card, which might have not helped either :) and not to mention their flaky DVD Station software...
Are MPEG-4 decoders even necessary these days with a 800+ mhz machines?
Right sorry Mosaic was the pre-nutscrape GUI webbrowser. was trying to think of what the windowing system was called?
Limited prototype -- it was actually in a commercial system Star and Alto that were unsuccessful. google: Xerox PARC, WIMP
IMHO, of course apple and MS both improved on an idea "stolen" from Xerox. i say "stolen" b/c xerox just gave it away and i don't think you can patent the idea of a windowing sys/GUI. They also stole the mouse from those bright engineers..."do you actually expect ppl to use something called a 'mouse'?"
putting "ummmm" in front of your post doesn't make your point more obvious-seeming or make me feel stupid :) It's just fluff
you're right, ms was not the first to introduce a windowing system, neither was apple -- xerox was i believe (with Mosaic or something). Watch your language please. It just weakens your already misled argument.
Missing the point? No highlighting, IDE, he panicked, i understand. Just asked a question about Emacs :D
Agreed that the "kid" should get used to a variety of dev environment...for somestuff like writing web pages or scripts or simple java classes i just used textpad, ultraedit, (x)emacs...
how cruel ;-)
Emacs does have syntax highlighting right? In fact it seems it overdoes it :) Colors...look...at...all the pretty colors.
colors enhance the readability so much. Auto-complete is great for beginners so they can browse the interface of a library/class and great for advanced ppl who are lazy and just type the first few chars and then press alt-space.
A is the only nonsense rule up there :) I agree with the other two...productivity and maintainabilty is important and thats what and IDE/highlighting/completion are for. Lacking that doesn't make you a better coder, just a slower one IMHO.
if the list is impl as an array then a binary search as he said, he probably didn't mean a linked/doubly-linked list
Yeah, I thought gnome 1 was pretty nice -- except for the time i logged in and my gnome panel refused to start -- kinda annoying. But i'm *sure* they fixed such things by now.
PS: Just wondering if someone can actually try this before saying it is better than windows XP or just leave god damn windows out of the discussion. Don't praise something by defecating on something else.
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I have such vivid memories from BGII (including many funny ones) I Can't Wait for NWN!
Aye, as do I, especially from BG 2 :) Even though it sounds fruity, I remember one of the romances w/ a party member. Like with Arie (that right?), when i wanted to "let her down" i was *actually* concerned about hurting her feelings! And the npc's interacting with each other felt like a real party.
Or the betrayl with Yoshimo (if you had him in your party). When Irenicus (yep, im a dork) addressed him, and told him how well he had done his job, my heart just sank an i actually felt like i was [figuratively] stabbed in the back!
That game and that series truly set the bar, beyond what i though i could get from an rpg...the product of ppl who love what they're doing.
The ending was also rewarding and truly well done. Makes me want to buy the expansion just to see what happens...aww nuts, there goes 20 bucks...