"Welcome to our world." Furthermore, this had better be the end of Europeans slamming Americans because they don't like the laws our legislators pass.
Ah well, after the political attitudes in Europe the last year, I guess a bit of gloating is a relevant reaction...:-)
(-: But, please understand, Bush just can't be popular here. For the Chomskyist crazies, Bush seems like Mugabe (except they probably like Mugabe!). We liberals have a hard time to differentiate Bush from Khomeini. Finally, the rightwing people are embarrassed by the lack of intellectualism.:-)
(I've never put a disclaimer on a joke before, but... the second joke was a bit of an exaggeration. It is bad enough to mod down, but no need to waste time to flame.)
Poor subsistence farmers are the population problem because when they get enough food which makes their large number of children survive.
So the best way forward is to make the world a better and richer place for everybody -- for both moral and logical reasons. This is happening now in India and China, which have large part of the total poor world population. (This optimism hurts for an old misanthrope. But what am I to do if my mind leads me somewhere?)
I'm sorry, but you seem to not have considered your opinions enough. You just bought some well chewed propaganda without looking seriously at all sides? I did the same when I also was a teenager a long time ago...
In the western world the destruction of nature has slowed dramatically the last few decades. Industrialization brings lots of environmental damage, but it gets smaller with time.
When and if global overpopulation becomes a problem, we might have to find a solution.
You are arguing to let (at a minimum) hundreds of millions of people die -- because you believe there might not be a solution.
I thought of myself as a bit of a misanthrope, but you have me beat by a laaarge factor.:-)
The first point was that I made a parallell between Israel/Palestina and all the other land losses in WW I&II.
It is the only loss of land area that is still a problem -- and other were much worse. See first post.
You answered that "Land losses are one thing, but where can you go if your country basically ceases to exist?", which is obviously not relevant when it never was a country and would have become a part of another country (Syria, or something.)
I am SO proud of you for managing [..] It is just delightful to be presented with such killer examples of why nobody likes anti-Microsoft zealots.
What I commented was criminals that got away with it -- without punishment.
I note you didn't argue against my description of Microsoft as a criminal that seems to buy their way out of punishment through buying politicians. Thus keeping their 80+% profit margins.
So what do we have left? A flame without content. Consider what kind of people write those. (You just forgot the Anon Coward checkbox?)
(Yes, yes -- I know this is offtopic. I just want to see if there is any good answer to this, which I've tried to get for years.)
Land losses are one thing, but where can you go if your country basically ceases to exist?
As the other commenter said, there were political and language continuity -- and as I wrote "It was not an existing country before and would, without the present state, have been part of another country. It should have been much less of a problem than many other areas.". The lost parts of e.g. Finland or the brutally kicked out German-speaking people had hardly more connection back to their respective countries.
In short -- you didn't answer my point. If you had an answer, you'd written it.
My example of Sudan was just one of a multitude. The point is that there are very, very different standards used for judging Palesina/Israel. You didn't answer that point either.
It seems to me you're really simplifying a complex matter.
Of course I do. It's a posting on Slashdot, not a 20-volume encyclopedia about the history of the Middle East.
You used extreme terms like "be a moron not to see", 'illegal', 'cruel', etc, etc. And can't answer simple questions?! (And seem to agree on that there are lots, lots examples that are much, much worse???)
If you had answered those, I would have added my other questions -- but I think you're a troll.
Uhm, you are generalizing over 290 million data points with a large standard deviation...
Helvete, most of my intellectual idols as a computer nerd are from USA.
It's the same as here in Europe -- lots of fools worship a ghod, Chomsky or a sport team. Those idiots should get along (according to their religions).
People that think try to judge by character, humour and personality. (For the record -- even some people that watch sport are OK. Or so they say.:-))
Many of them were quite unfair (Finland comes to mind), but the people from the lost areas moved out to neighboring countries -- and there is no problem today. Except for one case.
Now, tell me what makes it much worse with Israel?
It was not an existing country before and would, without the present state, have been part of another country. It should have been much less of a problem than many other areas.
(And then we have the literally hundreds of less criticism over literally hundreds of times worse treatment of non-muslims by muslims in Sudan over decades. Etc, etc, etc.)
It seems to me you're really simplifying a complex matter.
The high IQ criminals are not caught, not identified as criminals, and are not counted in the IQ scores for criminals.
Let's check with the most successful criminal gang I know of -- Microsoft.
They are well known for their crime, they earn lots of money -- and seems to have bought a presidential administration to get their court case dismissed, so they never had to pay back all the billions they earned from their crimes.
This is hardly a unique circumstance of USA. Big monopolies tend to have some political weight because of their size.
I'm not certain -- do people in US think of Microsoft (whose monopoly gives obscene margins and which lowers the software speed of development) as criminals?
If you've ever done a lot of traveling abroad, you'd be surprised to find the number of *Americans* who stick Canadian flags on their backpacks, etc. The general rule is that Canadians are much better respected globally than Americans for whatever reason.
That's sick!
[Even] I agree that people should be allowed to have any political opinions they want, but generalizing over 290 million people?!
People are morons.
Thanks, anyway. My misanthropic tendencies needed a boost.:-(
Uhm, you might want to take a new look. That rag has hit the bottom and is not what it was 20 years ago. For an example, see this on
nanotechnology .
(But I agree with you regarding Businessweek. I'm not competent to discuss their covering of economics, but when they write about something I understand well -- it seems to be sensationalistic garbage.)
The interesting part was that half the teachers in organic- and biochemistry had nervous tics or outright shivers. They were older guys that had been doing that work for 2-3 decades.
Despite the smells I loved to lab on organic chemistry since there were no need to measure weights to lots of decimal places.
But poisonous stuff that goes through the skin of my ten thumbs is NOT a long time plan...:-)
This is an excellent point. The solution to spam is to invent shit like that which really works, and put the spammers out of business.
No, it was NOT an excellent point!
Human greed and stupidity are probably infinite. The spammers will find something new to sell to the idiots.
I just made two terrible jokes about spam being a serious and growing career option (if it really is -- don't tell me, I'm misantrophic enough as is) and about making stuff grow that I get my spam about...
There was no deeper insights in my post!
That is truly an insulting insinuation. My latest moral outrage was at the sensitive end of the "Passion" -- in South Park. It made me sick.
Yes, totally correct description -- I agree. (I hadn't thought about getting a closure by accident -- thanks for the tip! Personally, I just don't "=head1 DESCRIPTION" methods that shouldn't be called, since I'm too lazy to read my own code and call anything non-documented!)
Your point was that you can't hire cheap inexperienced people that only know Perl and nothing else. I didn't get it, since most Perl people I know are impressive old Unix nerds -- Perl is quite a bit to learn.
(-: I just didn't understand you were so cheap, if you excuse the joke!:-)
But OK. Perl is a scripting language, so I guess there should be lots of people without longtime education/experience using it.
(What you're really saying is that you'd get acceptable results in e.g. Java with that hiring practice?! Wow, I'm impressed with Java!)
would not have been nearly so illegal had it not been so successful [etc]
It's not exactly a new insight that some behaviour that are legal for non-monopolists are illegal for monopolies. That is because it is bad for the economy and society.
I was arguing initially that Microsoft aren't so stupid. Not that they are the ``good guys''.;)
You noted that Microsoft do their disgusting things (ugly overcomplex products and standards they vary implementations of, etc, etc) to make certain of customers' lock in. That monopolist tactics isn't exactly news, either.
I usually add examples of how "fast" development of products are in areas that Microsoft control (e.g. IE and speed of development before/after the death of Netscape) and obvious parallells with classical monopolist strategies.
I can add that if you really care.
But, frankly, you seem to be totally unaware of the economic arguments regarding monopolies, so you really should study that subject minimally before having an opinion. (Which is what I try to do about the opinions I have.)
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(-: But, please understand, Bush just can't be popular here. For the Chomskyist crazies, Bush seems like Mugabe (except they probably like Mugabe!). We liberals have a hard time to differentiate Bush from Khomeini. Finally, the rightwing people are embarrassed by the lack of intellectualism. :-)
(I've never put a disclaimer on a joke before, but... the second joke was a bit of an exaggeration. It is bad enough to mod down, but no need to waste time to flame.)
And now they want people to care enough to vote?! Not me.
See e.g. this.
Poor subsistence farmers are the population problem because when they get enough food which makes their large number of children survive.
So the best way forward is to make the world a better and richer place for everybody -- for both moral and logical reasons. This is happening now in India and China, which have large part of the total poor world population. (This optimism hurts for an old misanthrope. But what am I to do if my mind leads me somewhere?)
I'm sorry, but you seem to not have considered your opinions enough. You just bought some well chewed propaganda without looking seriously at all sides? I did the same when I also was a teenager a long time ago...
When and if global overpopulation becomes a problem, we might have to find a solution.
You are arguing to let (at a minimum) hundreds of millions of people die -- because you believe there might not be a solution.
I thought of myself as a bit of a misanthrope, but you have me beat by a laaarge factor. :-)
Oh, I don't like those multinationals... no, I prefer our homemade international companies.
1/2 a :-)
It is the only loss of land area that is still a problem -- and other were much worse. See first post.
You answered that "Land losses are one thing, but where can you go if your country basically ceases to exist?", which is obviously not relevant when it never was a country and would have become a part of another country (Syria, or something.)
No, never mind -- I don't care. Good bye.
What I commented was criminals that got away with it -- without punishment.
I note you didn't argue against my description of Microsoft as a criminal that seems to buy their way out of punishment through buying politicians. Thus keeping their 80+% profit margins.
So what do we have left? A flame without content. Consider what kind of people write those. (You just forgot the Anon Coward checkbox?)
In short -- you didn't answer my point. If you had an answer, you'd written it.
My example of Sudan was just one of a multitude. The point is that there are very, very different standards used for judging Palesina/Israel. You didn't answer that point either.
You used extreme terms like "be a moron not to see", 'illegal', 'cruel', etc, etc. And can't answer simple questions?! (And seem to agree on that there are lots, lots examples that are much, much worse???)If you had answered those, I would have added my other questions -- but I think you're a troll.
Helvete, most of my intellectual idols as a computer nerd are from USA.
It's the same as here in Europe -- lots of fools worship a ghod, Chomsky or a sport team. Those idiots should get along (according to their religions).
People that think try to judge by character, humour and personality. (For the record -- even some people that watch sport are OK. Or so they say. :-))
There were lots of land losses after WW I & II.
Many of them were quite unfair (Finland comes to mind), but the people from the lost areas moved out to neighboring countries -- and there is no problem today. Except for one case.
Now, tell me what makes it much worse with Israel?
It was not an existing country before and would, without the present state, have been part of another country. It should have been much less of a problem than many other areas.
(And then we have the literally hundreds of less criticism over literally hundreds of times worse treatment of non-muslims by muslims in Sudan over decades. Etc, etc, etc.)
It seems to me you're really simplifying a complex matter.
They are well known for their crime, they earn lots of money -- and seems to have bought a presidential administration to get their court case dismissed, so they never had to pay back all the billions they earned from their crimes.
This is hardly a unique circumstance of USA. Big monopolies tend to have some political weight because of their size.
I'm not certain -- do people in US think of Microsoft (whose monopoly gives obscene margins and which lowers the software speed of development) as criminals?
14, 33, 39, 52, 63, 68, 89. (And probably more that I've forgotten.)
Unexpected large changes of the European political/military safety environment has been common! I can't see a reason to assume that it has stopped.
We in Sweden have stopped paying for our fire insurance...
[Even] I agree that people should be allowed to have any political opinions they want, but generalizing over 290 million people?!
People are morons.
Thanks, anyway. My misanthropic tendencies needed a boost. :-(
(Ten years ago, I heard a smoking friend really say she could quit anytime she wanted. I still needle her. :-)
(But I agree with you regarding Businessweek. I'm not competent to discuss their covering of economics, but when they write about something I understand well -- it seems to be sensationalistic garbage.)
The interesting part was that half the teachers in organic- and biochemistry had nervous tics or outright shivers. They were older guys that had been doing that work for 2-3 decades.
Despite the smells I loved to lab on organic chemistry since there were no need to measure weights to lots of decimal places.
But poisonous stuff that goes through the skin of my ten thumbs is NOT a long time plan... :-)
As a comeback, I'll comment on that there are theories in psychology and evolutionary psychology that we humans aren't built to be happy.
When we at long last get what we wanted so bad it hurt, then we soon begin to feel unfulfilled -- and start to work towards the next target...
This is obviously good motivation to get us working hard. (Insight regarding this is not rewarded evolutionary, either...)
So, based on this, the spammers and con men of the world will always have someone to fool.
Lost the URL, anyone know of it? It also had good and reasoned discussions of Emacs contra vi...
Human greed and stupidity are probably infinite. The spammers will find something new to sell to the idiots.
I just made two terrible jokes about spam being a serious and growing career option (if it really is -- don't tell me, I'm misantrophic enough as is) and about making stuff grow that I get my spam about...
There was no deeper insights in my post!
That is truly an insulting insinuation. My latest moral outrage was at the sensitive end of the "Passion" -- in South Park. It made me sick.
Consider the disaster for one of the few growth industries in IT!
What shams will the spam industry sell if we can start growing things medically?!
Quit the statistics courses, guys... there is no future in getting around the Bayesian analysis, anymore... :-(
What's next are virus/worm writers writing code so many millions of users claim over the net to listen to these mp3s. Just to be contrary.
So no one can be proved to have listened.
To counter that, laws will probably be run through congress that ignores if listening data might be wrong and that people have to pay anyway. :-(
I'm not certain, but probably:
:-)
(What you really meant was if we could understand the damn thing, too. At long last. Biochemists are obviously just lazy. :-)
Anyway, I agree -- the world would be a better place with Stevens still in it, writing books.
Your point was that you can't hire cheap inexperienced people that only know Perl and nothing else. I didn't get it, since most Perl people I know are impressive old Unix nerds -- Perl is quite a bit to learn.
(-: I just didn't understand you were so cheap, if you excuse the joke! :-)
But OK. Perl is a scripting language, so I guess there should be lots of people without longtime education/experience using it.
(What you're really saying is that you'd get acceptable results in e.g. Java with that hiring practice?! Wow, I'm impressed with Java!)
I usually add examples of how "fast" development of products are in areas that Microsoft control (e.g. IE and speed of development before/after the death of Netscape) and obvious parallells with classical monopolist strategies.
I can add that if you really care. But, frankly, you seem to be totally unaware of the economic arguments regarding monopolies, so you really should study that subject minimally before having an opinion. (Which is what I try to do about the opinions I have.)