Uhhhh. What is "PERL"? Closest match I found is "Perl", a scripting language heavily used in system maintenance procedures. Kind of important if you want to, say, install packages and stuff. (Actually I don't know about RH8, which is what we're presumably talking about here, but a lot of Debian packages require a minimal Perl install to support the packaging scripts.)
Hello Nitpick, PERL still is and always has been an abbreviation of "Practical Extraction and Reporting Language" and as far as I have learned, abbreviations are spelled with all caps. Actually including dots between each letter as well, but that's kind of redundant because people who got a clue what PERL is, also know PERL is an abbreviation and hence it is also very correct when spelled in all caps. That still leaves one entire issue about the fact I was talking about desktop issue and you start about Debian. I like Debian myself, but I wouldn't consider it a desktop distro, especially not for the average computer user.
What, praytell, do you propose to replace it with?
Something else. Like I stated before, who here actually USES the client-server capabilities of X? Apart from a small bunch of people, I presume almost none. It's old, it's archaic and it's in need of something sleek, small and fast to follow it up. Sadly I can't code good enough yet and designing an graphics sustem would be quite impossible for me atm. I'm pretty sure there are people working on alternatives atm though.
Then you should listen less to people who don't know what they're talking about. (Yes, that means reading less Slashdot.) On my box X takes about 3 seconds to start. This is so dwarfed by the startup time for GNOME, it's not even funny. If I logged in and out often enough for it to matter (hmmm, looks like my last login was 1 Dec), I think I'd switch back to vanilla fvwm2.
There is a huge line several miles wide between what is useful for servers and what is/could possibly be useful for desktops. Unfortunately, this line is so wide most people would fail to notice it even if they hit said line head first. I often see that so called "desktop distros" include stuff such as PERL, Apache, MySQL, PHP, ProFTPd... What the hell would one random computer user do with these programs? And with "random computer user" I mean those kind of people who do nothing about security at all, double click everything that contains the word "naked" "nude" or the name "anna kournikova" and their parents/ofspring/aunts/cousins/grandparents/lovers/mistresses/pets, you name it. I'm not even going to mention out-dated FTP/HTTP/SSH servers that might be exploited because random users don't ever update or turn off programs... ("But I like having so many programs running...")
On the other hand, we have so called "professional" distros that are far better. If you want to use them as a desktop, sure, click anything you want. Server? Just select everything you want for that one. However, these distros will never be destined for the normal user ("Where is my mouse? Yes, I know it's on my mouse mat, just where is it on my screen!? GPM? Wha? Not in X yet?") unless installed and secured by one random friendly non-introverted Linux hacker from around town...
So, get rid of all the stuff people never use on desktop distros such as Apache and the like. The people who DO use it prolly aren't happy with the default included package and will most likely build their own anyways. The professional distros are fine with me atm, no-nonsense and no marketeer buzzwords. (Yes, I just visited redhat.com)
Although the one thing that could improve all of linux is the removal of X. God, it is SLOW, Windows 98 booted faster on my p300 with 64mb and this is an AMD at 1667mhz with 1024mb! While I haven't seen the source code myself (yet), I heard it is about as bloated and obscure as it is. Lose it, replace it with smaller, non-server client orientated graphic systems. Random users want SPEED, not the ability to link up 100+ terminals to the computer.
No, 1994 actually because that's when my server was built. I got it cheaply on some online trading site. Don't forget I'm a student, so I must keep an eye the budget. Besides, it's not like a SMB/HTTP/NAT server requires allot of proc power, does it?
1. Found obscure cult involving aliens.
2. Ask "tithes" for support and basic nescecities. (6 acres of land, 4 million USD villa, heated swimming pool, turkish sauna, botanic garden, 4 wives, 4^n children, 3 Mercedes', 2 BMWs, 2 Cessnas, 1 Learjet, 1 converted Boeing 727 and a division of lawyers to keep the 4 wives from running away with all aforementioned "nescecities".)
3. Profit!
Remember people, 1,5 megaBIT, not byte. Stop packing your stuff and forget about the 17 bucks T1 line. 1,5 megabit / 8 = 0,1875 megabyte per second or about 192 kb/sec. In other words, below common cable internet speeds.
So either this new powerline ISP is crap, the original author typoed or my math is fucked.
At least they aren't using the standard XP toolbar (yet). The original XP toolbar has to be the most vile and horrific concept ever dreamed up by Microsoft. Sure, the insecurities are tolerable to a certain level, the incompatibility with most things I used was not a great concern, the fact the XP install made 4gb of (semi-legal)[1] MP3s vanish wasn't too bad either as is the fact it INSISTS to log on to my linux server as "$servername\Guest", but the toolbar... In Eris' name, the toolbar made me want to gauge my own eyes out with the install CD...
[1] Semi legal being illegal really, but it were FF8 soundtrack mp3s and I have the PC version with glorious midi sound. Listing to the midis made me feel like someone was shoving a chainsaw in my ears and twisting it, so I wanted something better for my money. Besides, the PSX version had digital music and both the PC and the PSX version were priced the same.
For your GUI, take a look at GNUstep [gnustep.org]. It supports Linux, the BSDs, Solaris and Windows and is (pretty much) compatible with Cocoa.
For your 3D graphic stuff, take a look at the GNU 3DKit [gnu.org].
Better change the name of whatever you want to code to "GNU/$ORIGINAL_NAME" lest you want to wake up one night with RMS next to you with a hockey mask and GNU/chainsaw.
To have a team of lawyers looking for loopholes and ways to manipulate the law is by some viewed as competition. Others view it as cheating the intent of the law.
Except that clogs are still seen and tulips account for 40 percent of the whole of Duch agriculture earnings at over 150 million dollars worth per year. Sounds pretty here-and-now to me.
Yes well, we don't keep track of drug sales because it's quite illegal to export and and thus no one keeps track of it really. But I'm very willing tp bet it's quite a lucrative business. The clogs are "out". The regular dutch person would rather be caught dead then wearing clogs. Wait untill May though and you can join in on our raw-herring eating festivities! (almost) Nothing beats enjoying a herring and seeing a bunch of foreigners freak out.
Good points, but remember the game was and still is largely a recruiting tool used to get people interested into the army. You used to see army leaflets and ads in magazines, then online and FPSers are a hit, so why not make one huge Army FPS advertisement?
The game itself though is fun IMHO, because it's so much focussed on realism then any other FPS game, except maybe the Delta Force series, but I got no experience with those and it is highly unlikely that breathing in incorporated into DF. I would HATE to play a game with such emphasis on reality online though, because I'm more of the simple "blast em to kingdom come, with style" type. Combined warfare that is featured in BF1942 is far more interesting to me, at least.
Have you ever fired a 40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher (MK19) off the top of a HMMWV?
No, and screw the grenade launcher, I want the hummer:) Those babies are rarer then diamonds overe here in the Netherlands and I want one!
Sure, I respect Linus for his work and contributions to the IT world and the "liberation" from propertairy software and unethical licenses. However, the REAL heroes on that page are two victims of "zinloos geweld" as we dutch people call it, or "senseless violence" if translated into english. These two people I'm talking about are René Steegmans and Meindert Tjoelker (both on the same page as Linus) who were killed for no reason at all. Maybe not such a big thing in the US, but remember that the Netherlands is about 1/232th the size of the US. (according to the CIA factbook, ahem) Meindert Tjoelker was killed when trying to calm a fight between a few people and René Steegmans was killed when he questioned a bunch of guys wether they had any respect for an old lady who they almost ran over on scooters. They are real heroes to us Dutchies.
Unfortunately. I can not begin to describe the immense hatred I have for Flash, but it is on par with pop-ups and pop-unders. Fortunately, Mozilla is quite nice and has allowed me to disable Flash mostly (woohoo!) and thus allows get away from all the horrible sites who abuse Flash. Flash as a concept might be recovered though, as soon as people realize that Flash is made for ANIMATIONS, not entire goddamned websites. It is impossible to link to a document embedded in Flash, it is impossible to bookmark in-site thing for the same reason. Is is impossible to turn of the Flash music that get enforced through my speakers and I am not even going to mention printing information in a Flash file. And most Flash sites just are a disaster to use because the book "Flash for Idiots" doesn't handle basic GUI design (apparently).
So right now, I hope that Flash dies a slow horrible death along with Quicktime and Realmedia Player.
I mean, seriously, why waste good money on a bunch of people who don't believe that the NASA went to the moon? I mean, sure, some point they make are compelling about lack of stars, flag wave while there is no wind. But each and everyone one of those points been tackled by claims like overexposure, not so perfect cameras, etcetera. So why waste money on a bunch of idiots who do not believe the NASA? Besides, even IF you would prove it to them, there will always be a few retards who will still refuse to believe it all, claiming that the evidence was set up as well and more of such claims.
NASA should realize that there also are idiots on this planet who should be ignored.
We? No, our main exports include synthetic and organic drugs and the occasional spazzed out french tourist. The clogs and tulips are from the past, my dear.
Congratulations on missing the point by a few parsecs. You see, Slashdot is more like a news site with some comment system in it that came originally from weblogs. True weblogs are about the personal affairs or doings of a certain individual or a group of individuals. (oxymoron?) Slashdot is more centered around current news in the computer hardware and software business, centered around open-source development and the implications of notorious US laws on said development. Trust me, Slashdot would NOT have as many followers if it was purely about Taco's nightly adventures with his wife or his latest kernel compile. (Which technically could be the former, I don't know what the guy does with his wife at night. "Honey, let's compile a kernel!" - "I've got a headache...")
This is in sharp contrast to most weblogs out there, which are mainly focussed about what happens to a single person. I can't really bring myself to give a damn about Fred's personal live or Mary's rants about something that isn't my concern to start with. It simply doesn't interest me, though I'm pretty convinced that there are people with certain voyeuristic tendecies who are interested. But that isn't the issue around here at the moment. Slashdot simply is NOT one of those way too common and boring weblogs that infect the net.
That, and the parent had a problem with the term "blog", which is imho the most overhyped and retarded-sounding word which was spawned by the dot-com catastrophe.
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Hello Nitpick, PERL still is and always has been an abbreviation of "Practical Extraction and Reporting Language" and as far as I have learned, abbreviations are spelled with all caps. Actually including dots between each letter as well, but that's kind of redundant because people who got a clue what PERL is, also know PERL is an abbreviation and hence it is also very correct when spelled in all caps. That still leaves one entire issue about the fact I was talking about desktop issue and you start about Debian. I like Debian myself, but I wouldn't consider it a desktop distro, especially not for the average computer user.
Something else. Like I stated before, who here actually USES the client-server capabilities of X? Apart from a small bunch of people, I presume almost none. It's old, it's archaic and it's in need of something sleek, small and fast to follow it up. Sadly I can't code good enough yet and designing an graphics sustem would be quite impossible for me atm. I'm pretty sure there are people working on alternatives atm though.
Hmm... ... Pass.
There is a huge line several miles wide between what is useful for servers and what is/could possibly be useful for desktops. Unfortunately, this line is so wide most people would fail to notice it even if they hit said line head first. I often see that so called "desktop distros" include stuff such as PERL, Apache, MySQL, PHP, ProFTPd... What the hell would one random computer user do with these programs? And with "random computer user" I mean those kind of people who do nothing about security at all, double click everything that contains the word "naked" "nude" or the name "anna kournikova" and their parents/ofspring/aunts/cousins/grandparents/lovers /mistresses/pets, you name it. I'm not even going to mention out-dated FTP/HTTP/SSH servers that might be exploited because random users don't ever update or turn off programs... ("But I like having so many programs running...")
On the other hand, we have so called "professional" distros that are far better. If you want to use them as a desktop, sure, click anything you want. Server? Just select everything you want for that one. However, these distros will never be destined for the normal user ("Where is my mouse? Yes, I know it's on my mouse mat, just where is it on my screen!? GPM? Wha? Not in X yet?") unless installed and secured by one random friendly non-introverted Linux hacker from around town...
So, get rid of all the stuff people never use on desktop distros such as Apache and the like. The people who DO use it prolly aren't happy with the default included package and will most likely build their own anyways. The professional distros are fine with me atm, no-nonsense and no marketeer buzzwords. (Yes, I just visited redhat.com)
Although the one thing that could improve all of linux is the removal of X. God, it is SLOW, Windows 98 booted faster on my p300 with 64mb and this is an AMD at 1667mhz with 1024mb! While I haven't seen the source code myself (yet), I heard it is about as bloated and obscure as it is. Lose it, replace it with smaller, non-server client orientated graphic systems. Random users want SPEED, not the ability to link up 100+ terminals to the computer.
... otherwise they'd be the number one most shameful game. Taking bets at which community they will buy out and kill next.
Just install catterpillar tracks under your SUV then, problem solved and it looks spiffy, too.
Well, if DVD burning is anything like CD burning, then we can also expect the first DVD coasters in 2004...
No, 1994 actually because that's when my server was built. I got it cheaply on some online trading site. Don't forget I'm a student, so I must keep an eye the budget. Besides, it's not like a SMB/HTTP/NAT server requires allot of proc power, does it?
Coward.
Another two hour compile coming up for my dual p100 :( I want two bloody p233 mmx instead, that ought to speed the whole thing up a bit...
Incidently, kudos for adding in the GD image library. Though people will still need appropriate libraries for jpgs, pngs, etc, as far as I know.
1. Found obscure cult involving aliens.
2. Ask "tithes" for support and basic nescecities. (6 acres of land, 4 million USD villa, heated swimming pool, turkish sauna, botanic garden, 4 wives, 4^n children, 3 Mercedes', 2 BMWs, 2 Cessnas, 1 Learjet, 1 converted Boeing 727 and a division of lawyers to keep the 4 wives from running away with all aforementioned "nescecities".)
3. Profit!
Remember people, 1,5 megaBIT, not byte. Stop packing your stuff and forget about the 17 bucks T1 line. 1,5 megabit / 8 = 0,1875 megabyte per second or about 192 kb/sec. In other words, below common cable internet speeds.
So either this new powerline ISP is crap, the original author typoed or my math is fucked.
At least they aren't using the standard XP toolbar (yet). The original XP toolbar has to be the most vile and horrific concept ever dreamed up by Microsoft. Sure, the insecurities are tolerable to a certain level, the incompatibility with most things I used was not a great concern, the fact the XP install made 4gb of (semi-legal)[1] MP3s vanish wasn't too bad either as is the fact it INSISTS to log on to my linux server as "$servername\Guest", but the toolbar... In Eris' name, the toolbar made me want to gauge my own eyes out with the install CD...
[1] Semi legal being illegal really, but it were FF8 soundtrack mp3s and I have the PC version with glorious midi sound. Listing to the midis made me feel like someone was shoving a chainsaw in my ears and twisting it, so I wanted something better for my money. Besides, the PSX version had digital music and both the PC and the PSX version were priced the same.
Better change the name of whatever you want to code to "GNU/$ORIGINAL_NAME" lest you want to wake up one night with RMS next to you with a hockey mask and GNU/chainsaw.
Oh, you mean the MS marketing department?
Yes, but some other "dutchies" can go straight to hell.
Yes well, we don't keep track of drug sales because it's quite illegal to export and and thus no one keeps track of it really. But I'm very willing tp bet it's quite a lucrative business. The clogs are "out". The regular dutch person would rather be caught dead then wearing clogs. Wait untill May though and you can join in on our raw-herring eating festivities! (almost) Nothing beats enjoying a herring and seeing a bunch of foreigners freak out.
Good points, but remember the game was and still is largely a recruiting tool used to get people interested into the army. You used to see army leaflets and ads in magazines, then online and FPSers are a hit, so why not make one huge Army FPS advertisement?
The game itself though is fun IMHO, because it's so much focussed on realism then any other FPS game, except maybe the Delta Force series, but I got no experience with those and it is highly unlikely that breathing in incorporated into DF. I would HATE to play a game with such emphasis on reality online though, because I'm more of the simple "blast em to kingdom come, with style" type. Combined warfare that is featured in BF1942 is far more interesting to me, at least.
No, and screw the grenade launcher, I want the hummer :) Those babies are rarer then diamonds overe here in the Netherlands and I want one!
You're new to trolling aren't you? Try harder next time. Oh, and don't be an AC, you'll never get famous with that.
You mean like "America's Army: Soldiers"?
Sure, I respect Linus for his work and contributions to the IT world and the "liberation" from propertairy software and unethical licenses. However, the REAL heroes on that page are two victims of "zinloos geweld" as we dutch people call it, or "senseless violence" if translated into english. These two people I'm talking about are René Steegmans and Meindert Tjoelker (both on the same page as Linus) who were killed for no reason at all. Maybe not such a big thing in the US, but remember that the Netherlands is about 1/232th the size of the US. (according to the CIA factbook, ahem) Meindert Tjoelker was killed when trying to calm a fight between a few people and René Steegmans was killed when he questioned a bunch of guys wether they had any respect for an old lady who they almost ran over on scooters. They are real heroes to us Dutchies.
Unfortunately. I can not begin to describe the immense hatred I have for Flash, but it is on par with pop-ups and pop-unders. Fortunately, Mozilla is quite nice and has allowed me to disable Flash mostly (woohoo!) and thus allows get away from all the horrible sites who abuse Flash. Flash as a concept might be recovered though, as soon as people realize that Flash is made for ANIMATIONS, not entire goddamned websites. It is impossible to link to a document embedded in Flash, it is impossible to bookmark in-site thing for the same reason. Is is impossible to turn of the Flash music that get enforced through my speakers and I am not even going to mention printing information in a Flash file. And most Flash sites just are a disaster to use because the book "Flash for Idiots" doesn't handle basic GUI design (apparently).
So right now, I hope that Flash dies a slow horrible death along with Quicktime and Realmedia Player.
I mean, seriously, why waste good money on a bunch of people who don't believe that the NASA went to the moon? I mean, sure, some point they make are compelling about lack of stars, flag wave while there is no wind. But each and everyone one of those points been tackled by claims like overexposure, not so perfect cameras, etcetera. So why waste money on a bunch of idiots who do not believe the NASA? Besides, even IF you would prove it to them, there will always be a few retards who will still refuse to believe it all, claiming that the evidence was set up as well and more of such claims.
NASA should realize that there also are idiots on this planet who should be ignored.
We? No, our main exports include synthetic and organic drugs and the occasional spazzed out french tourist. The clogs and tulips are from the past, my dear.
Don't mind Taco, he's prolly on cheap crack.
Oh dear...
Tom Hanks: Uh... Slash Asterisk Hash Include Opening Tag Windows Ninety-Five Closing Tag Asterisk Slash... Hey, why has that fat guy just fainted?
Gates: Ballmer? He's expendable and so are you, to me at least. Forget that last line right now, minion!
Congratulations on missing the point by a few parsecs. You see, Slashdot is more like a news site with some comment system in it that came originally from weblogs. True weblogs are about the personal affairs or doings of a certain individual or a group of individuals. (oxymoron?) Slashdot is more centered around current news in the computer hardware and software business, centered around open-source development and the implications of notorious US laws on said development. Trust me, Slashdot would NOT have as many followers if it was purely about Taco's nightly adventures with his wife or his latest kernel compile. (Which technically could be the former, I don't know what the guy does with his wife at night. "Honey, let's compile a kernel!" - "I've got a headache...")
This is in sharp contrast to most weblogs out there, which are mainly focussed about what happens to a single person. I can't really bring myself to give a damn about Fred's personal live or Mary's rants about something that isn't my concern to start with. It simply doesn't interest me, though I'm pretty convinced that there are people with certain voyeuristic tendecies who are interested. But that isn't the issue around here at the moment. Slashdot simply is NOT one of those way too common and boring weblogs that infect the net.
That, and the parent had a problem with the term "blog", which is imho the most overhyped and retarded-sounding word which was spawned by the dot-com catastrophe.