Surprisingly, I have had great success with Red Hat and later Fedora on both of my Sony Vaio laptops. Even when I had just purchased Sony's top-of-the-line, $3000 super-new one last year (two years ago?), the only thing I couldn't use under Red Hat was the Firewire port.
I have not had the courage to install Fedora 2 yet. I'm sitting on the CD's now wondering if I should try it. If you dual-boot Windows XP/2000, some combination of the new 2.6 kernel with Grub will destroy your partition table and disable access to Windows XP.
Parent is not a troll. I knew someone who came from Canada after waiting SIX months for an examination with a specialist. She died of cancer here in the States without ever even seeing a doctor in Canada. (She was a native Canadian, btw). She thought she had stomach cancer. It turns out that she DIDN'T! She just had a terrible infection. If she had been examined soon enough she would probably have lived. By the time she got help here in the U.S., it was too late.
What is more remarkable is that her sister's husband was a doctor who at one time was part of the Canadian national health care agency (I don't know what it is called). He got so fed up with it he moved his practice to the U.S. twenty years ago and has no desire to ever go back.
I'm not bashing Canada here... I mean they gave us Michael J. Fox didn't they? Seriously, Canada is a great country, but their health care system is not a model we should be following. Our own system is bad enough. (Can anyone say "tort reform"?)
My company buys Red Hat Enterprise licenses (because I advise them to). Personally I use Fedora. The good will Red Hat has built with me over the years is why I keep buying Red Hat licenses at work rather than Suse.
Your only mistake is in assuming that users of Fedora and RH Enterprise are different people. In many cases they are the same.
I've been using Fedora since day 1, and quite honestly I love it. I haven't played with the pre-release Core 2 stuff yet, but Core 1 runs like a dream.
As far as the interaction with Red Hat, think about it this way: What other distro allows you to post a message to a mailing list and get an answer from Alan Cox himself? Red Hat genuinely interacts with the users, listens to them and tries to help them.
I can't even count how many times I have seen the Red Hat guys help users who clearly aren't running any of their Enterprise products.
I don't recall anywhere indicating that the U.S is a utopia. As far as I'm concerned we are also headed down the socialist path and it is quite dangerous. There are a lot of wonderful things about Europe, but the socialist leanings are not among them!
Your hostility is quite telling. There was nothing hostile in my message, and yet you reacted with a fairly vitriolic tone. Perhaps I touched a nerve?
Actually my apologies. I did was speaking in general to socialist apologist and using your message as a vector to introduce that topic. I did not mean to target you specifically.
For all you Americans who make the mistake of glorifying the socialist countries in Europe, think again. Please stop portraying socialism as some kind of utopian wonderland.
Of course each country is somewhat different, but in general, the high taxes and expensive social programs have left Europe's economy in dire straits. The Euro is turning into a disaster. The EC is a failure and is descending into bickering and disagreement. Many of these socialist countries can no longer afford the huge government programs they have built, and they have stifled business to the point where their own business are fleeing as fast as possible.
In the U.S. we are worried about outsourcing, yet the fact is we are importing more (and higher-paying) jobs than we are exporting. In Europe, this is not the case. Their business is going out of the country at a fast-increasing rate. I'm sure someone from some specific European country will contradict this, but in GENERAL there are huge problems in Europe right now. The number of workers is falling rapidly, and is supporting a fast increasing dependent-class of entitlement recipients (freeloaders we call them in the U.S.)
Remember, nationalizing companies results in inefficiency and incompetence. With no competition and profit incentive, quality goes down the tubes.
Yes I am an American who actually reads European news sources.
Human beings create only a fraction of the CO2 in the atmosphere. The VAST majority comes from volcanos and forest fires.
All the doomsday whackos out there do not understand how shaky the global warming science really is. There is no evidence that human beings have an appreciable impact on the the global climate AT ALL. Sorry, hate to break it to you all. There is evidence that the climate is changing... of course it is! What would be more alarming is if the climate WASN'T changing. The normal pattern for the planet is for climate to change.
Not one of the climate models explains the very high temperatures from recent centuries where there were no fossil fuels, power plants, factories or automobiles. These same scientists that are whining about warming were the ones talking about a new ice age in the 70's.
All the wasted energy and money spent on trying to fight human-induced global warming could be far better spent on learning to ADAPT to a naturally changing climate.
I know I'll get modded down on this left-wing enclave, but the facts are the facts. There is no evidence humans have an appreciate impact on the climate.
The difference is that Windows ships with vulnerable services turned ON by default. No modern Linux ships with anything turned on except SSHD.
I have seen new Windows boxes compromised immediately after being installed while downloading the service packs for the OS. I mean literally within minutes. That is because Windows installs with all its services running on first boot. Moronic.
Why ship with RPC open to non-private network addresses by default? Morons.
First, I disagree with your characterization of Fox News. It is a pretty classy news organization. O'Reilly is NOT a reporter, he is a commentator.
Second, assuming that in fact a news organization does censor, that would still be different than government-enforced censorship. Fox News is a private business entity and has editorial license. Nobody goes to prison if Fox News reports or doesn't report something.
You are not making sense. Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. Also make sure you understand the DEGREE of censorship and relative punishment for violating it. In America, the media bashes Bush non-stop. We allow that. In China, you go to prison if you do that.
Being elected does not mean he deserves my respect or that he is qualified or ethically defensible.
From what I have read, Chirac was corrupt and nearly got thrown out of office in 1999 before he made backroom deals to survive. I do not claim to have all the information on this.
Chirac's closests friends have taken millions in bribes from Iraq. I am certain that somehow some of that money will get back to him when he leaves office-- either directly or through generous business deals of some kind.
"Democracy is not the best thing for every country. China is doing quite well without it."
Sure, forced abortions. Imprisonment of political dissidents. Censorship. I have a very close friend (over twenty years) who lives there now teaching English. Don't even start with me on China... you will lose. The people of China are wonderful, truly, but the government is a pile of dung.
Congratulations, you just made the stupidest comment ever made on Slashdot-- quite an accomplishment.
"I can't help but notice that Eastern Europe apparently is populated by some sort of sub-humans, below consideration, in your world view. Or, in your history books did the USSR and the entire Eastern Block abandoned to Stalin at the end of the war simply never exist?"
This statement was unreasonable. I never accused Eastern Europe of being populated by sub-humans.
As far as the other continents go, read some of my other posts. I have referred on numerous occasions to French imperialism in Africa, for example. India speaks English to this day because a EUROPEAN country conquered it. Poland was a former Soviet republic, and to this day honors Ronald Reagan for his tremendous contributions in freeing them from Soviet rule.
As far as Asia is concerned, there is no question China would like to conquer the rest of it. If the U.S.S.R. had survived, many believe it and China would have inevitably clashed as well. So which form of communism would you like to live in?
"Al Gore failed out because he had a child and had to work. The Bush administration didnt like to point this out in the election because it would get him the sympathy vote."
My mother worked three jobs, raising two kids on her own, and got straight A's going to school full time. Why didn't he just withdraw then?
I read more history books in a month than most people do in their entire lives. I am quite aware of Europe, and take every opportunity to talk to as many 'foreigners' as possible. The U.S. did not lie to the U.N. Why don't you talk about the BRIBES from Iraq to Germany, France, Russia, and numerous senior U.N. officials? That is the real story of corruption in this war. Do you think France opposed the war for idealogical reasons? Ha! France had billions in contracts with Saddam Hussein at stake.
The fact that Bush has oil ties is irrelevant. Has the U.S. taken a SINGLE DOLLAR from Iraqi oil? No. Therefore your tinfoil-hat theory is nothing but hyperbole.
No, I don't believe the way was done solely for the people of Iraq. I believe the adminstration absolutely believed the weapons were there, and that it is pretty embarrassing that they haven't found any stockpiles.
Nonetheless, the European attitude of appeasement and their support for terrorists like Yassar Arafat are inexcusable and ignorant. Appeasement only encourages terrorists and thugs. Talk about learning from history-- Europeans should have learned that from Hitler. Appeasement shows weakness. I notice that the terrorists are not very circumspect in targeting political targets only. Just ask the victims on the trains in Madrid. (Don't even THINK of excusing those attacks as retaliation for the war in Iraq. Those were INNOCENT people.)
> Stop splitting the world into American and > anti-American;
This was a very good comment. The fact is that many of these so-called foreign heads-of-state maintain their power by creating the Big Bad U.S. Enemy to distract their people from their own incompetence and corruption. The heads of France and Germany just did that in their last election because they were losing.
Hell, I was just sitting in a cab the other day and had the driver (Pakistani) tell me that the U.S perpetrated 9/11 on itself in order to make Muslims look bad. Ridiculous. His source for this insight (I'm not kidding): NPR and Al Jazeera
The world can kiss my butt then. I'm tired of it. If it weren't for America the whole world would be speaking German or Russian.
Maybe that missed opportunity is what makes the socialist Europeans so anti-American. They really wish the U.S.S.R. had won the cold war or that Hitler conquered Europe.
Sorry, but I'm just SO TIRED of America-bashing. The economic problems in the third-world are caused by two things far more than American imperialism.
1. Local corruption 2. SOCIALIST imperialism projecting anti-capitalist rules on these countries in the form of environmental laws and pressure not to use the natural resources to create local economies.
It is just easier for Europeans to blame America than face the role they ALSO took in creating the problems they now blame on the U.S.
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Surprisingly, I have had great success with Red Hat and later Fedora on both of my Sony Vaio laptops. Even when I had just purchased Sony's top-of-the-line, $3000 super-new one last year (two years ago?), the only thing I couldn't use under Red Hat was the Firewire port.
I have not had the courage to install Fedora 2 yet. I'm sitting on the CD's now wondering if I should try it. If you dual-boot Windows XP/2000, some combination of the new 2.6 kernel with Grub will destroy your partition table and disable access to Windows XP.
Parent is not a troll. I knew someone who came from Canada after waiting SIX months for an examination with a specialist. She died of cancer here in the States without ever even seeing a doctor in Canada. (She was a native Canadian, btw). She thought she had stomach cancer. It turns out that she DIDN'T! She just had a terrible infection. If she had been examined soon enough she would probably have lived. By the time she got help here in the U.S., it was too late.
What is more remarkable is that her sister's husband was a doctor who at one time was part of the Canadian national health care agency (I don't know what it is called). He got so fed up with it he moved his practice to the U.S. twenty years ago and has no desire to ever go back.
I'm not bashing Canada here... I mean they gave us Michael J. Fox didn't they? Seriously, Canada is a great country, but their health care system is not a model we should be following. Our own system is bad enough. (Can anyone say "tort reform"?)
Just a comment:
My company buys Red Hat Enterprise licenses (because I advise them to). Personally I use Fedora. The good will Red Hat has built with me over the years is why I keep buying Red Hat licenses at work rather than Suse.
Your only mistake is in assuming that users of Fedora and RH Enterprise are different people. In many cases they are the same.
I've been using Fedora since day 1, and quite honestly I love it. I haven't played with the pre-release Core 2 stuff yet, but Core 1 runs like a dream.
As far as the interaction with Red Hat, think about it this way: What other distro allows you to post a message to a mailing list and get an answer from Alan Cox himself? Red Hat genuinely interacts with the users, listens to them and tries to help them.
I can't even count how many times I have seen the Red Hat guys help users who clearly aren't running any of their Enterprise products.
Sorry, we have two of these and they are garbage. Very unreliable and lose their network connection all the time.
We'll never buy them again.
I don't recall anywhere indicating that the U.S is a utopia. As far as I'm concerned we are also headed down the socialist path and it is quite dangerous. There are a lot of wonderful things about Europe, but the socialist leanings are not among them!
Your hostility is quite telling. There was nothing hostile in my message, and yet you reacted with a fairly vitriolic tone. Perhaps I touched a nerve?
P.S. I don't read USA Today.
Actually my apologies. I did was speaking in general to socialist apologist and using your message as a vector to introduce that topic. I did not mean to target you specifically.
Highest per student funding in the U.S.:
Washington D.C. Schools
Smallest classroom size in the U.S.:
Washington D.C. Schools
Lowest Achievement Scores in the U.S.:
Washington D.C. Schools
Hmm.. what does funding have to do with it exactly?
For all you Americans who make the mistake of glorifying the socialist countries in Europe, think again. Please stop portraying socialism as some kind of utopian wonderland.
Of course each country is somewhat different, but in general, the high taxes and expensive social programs have left Europe's economy in dire straits. The Euro is turning into a disaster. The EC is a failure and is descending into bickering and disagreement. Many of these socialist countries can no longer afford the huge government programs they have built, and they have stifled business to the point where their own business are fleeing as fast as possible.
In the U.S. we are worried about outsourcing, yet the fact is we are importing more (and higher-paying) jobs than we are exporting. In Europe, this is not the case. Their business is going out of the country at a fast-increasing rate. I'm sure someone from some specific European country will contradict this, but in GENERAL there are huge problems in Europe right now. The number of workers is falling rapidly, and is supporting a fast increasing dependent-class of entitlement recipients (freeloaders we call them in the U.S.)
Remember, nationalizing companies results in inefficiency and incompetence. With no competition and profit incentive, quality goes down the tubes.
Yes I am an American who actually reads European news sources.
Bah back. I've been running Core 1 since it came out and I love it. I've tried them all, and I always return to Red Hat (now Fedora).
Gentoo-- clever distro, but just a bit too much work when you want to just USE your distro, not spends weeks compiling it.
Debian-- sorry, rudest user community I've ever seen. They need to take a lesson from Gentoo's users.
Mandrake-- French distro. Automatically suspect. Probably built with billions of bribe money from Saddam Hussein.
Suse-- I don't speak German. Some would argue that I also, in fact, don't speak English, but what do they know.
Human beings create only a fraction of the CO2 in the atmosphere. The VAST majority comes from volcanos and forest fires.
All the doomsday whackos out there do not understand how shaky the global warming science really is. There is no evidence that human beings have an appreciable impact on the the global climate AT ALL. Sorry, hate to break it to you all. There is evidence that the climate is changing... of course it is! What would be more alarming is if the climate WASN'T changing. The normal pattern for the planet is for climate to change.
Not one of the climate models explains the very high temperatures from recent centuries where there were no fossil fuels, power plants, factories or automobiles. These same scientists that are whining about warming were the ones talking about a new ice age in the 70's.
All the wasted energy and money spent on trying to fight human-induced global warming could be far better spent on learning to ADAPT to a naturally changing climate.
I know I'll get modded down on this left-wing enclave, but the facts are the facts. There is no evidence humans have an appreciate impact on the climate.
45 to 55k out of school? Sheesh... no way. Is that in Dog Dollars?
The difference is that Windows ships with vulnerable services turned ON by default. No modern Linux ships with anything turned on except SSHD.
I have seen new Windows boxes compromised immediately after being installed while downloading the service packs for the OS. I mean literally within minutes. That is because Windows installs with all its services running on first boot. Moronic.
Why ship with RPC open to non-private network addresses by default? Morons.
The guy thinks the word "exclusively" means "excluding".
Ugh.
Either he is being funny or just doesn't have a clue.
First, I disagree with your characterization of Fox News. It is a pretty classy news organization. O'Reilly is NOT a reporter, he is a commentator.
Second, assuming that in fact a news organization does censor, that would still be different than government-enforced censorship. Fox News is a private business entity and has editorial license. Nobody goes to prison if Fox News reports or doesn't report something.
You are not making sense. Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. Also make sure you understand the DEGREE of censorship and relative punishment for violating it. In America, the media bashes Bush non-stop. We allow that. In China, you go to prison if you do that.
Being elected does not mean he deserves my respect or that he is qualified or ethically defensible.
From what I have read, Chirac was corrupt and nearly got thrown out of office in 1999 before he made backroom deals to survive. I do not claim to have all the information on this.
Chirac's closests friends have taken millions in bribes from Iraq. I am certain that somehow some of that money will get back to him when he leaves office-- either directly or through generous business deals of some kind.
Chirac is a corrupt liar.
"Democracy is not the best thing for every country. China is doing quite well without it."
Sure, forced abortions. Imprisonment of political dissidents. Censorship. I have a very close friend (over twenty years) who lives there now teaching English. Don't even start with me on China... you will lose. The people of China are wonderful, truly, but the government is a pile of dung.
Congratulations, you just made the stupidest comment ever made on Slashdot-- quite an accomplishment.
"I can't help but notice that Eastern Europe apparently is populated by some sort of sub-humans, below consideration, in your world view. Or, in your history books did the USSR and the entire Eastern Block abandoned to Stalin at the end of the war simply never exist?"
This statement was unreasonable. I never accused Eastern Europe of being populated by sub-humans.
As far as the other continents go, read some of my other posts. I have referred on numerous occasions to French imperialism in Africa, for example. India speaks English to this day because a EUROPEAN country conquered it. Poland was a former Soviet republic, and to this day honors Ronald Reagan for his tremendous contributions in freeing them from Soviet rule.
As far as Asia is concerned, there is no question China would like to conquer the rest of it. If the U.S.S.R. had survived, many believe it and China would have inevitably clashed as well. So which form of communism would you like to live in?
"Al Gore failed out because he had a child and had to work. The Bush administration didnt like to point this out in the election because it would get him the sympathy vote."
My mother worked three jobs, raising two kids on her own, and got straight A's going to school full time. Why didn't he just withdraw then?
Cry me a river.
I read more history books in a month than most people do in their entire lives. I am quite aware of Europe, and take every opportunity to talk to as many 'foreigners' as possible. The U.S. did not lie to the U.N. Why don't you talk about the BRIBES from Iraq to Germany, France, Russia, and numerous senior U.N. officials? That is the real story of corruption in this war. Do you think France opposed the war for idealogical reasons? Ha! France had billions in contracts with Saddam Hussein at stake.
The fact that Bush has oil ties is irrelevant. Has the U.S. taken a SINGLE DOLLAR from Iraqi oil? No. Therefore your tinfoil-hat theory is nothing but hyperbole.
No, I don't believe the way was done solely for the people of Iraq. I believe the adminstration absolutely believed the weapons were there, and that it is pretty embarrassing that they haven't found any stockpiles.
Nonetheless, the European attitude of appeasement and their support for terrorists like Yassar Arafat are inexcusable and ignorant. Appeasement only encourages terrorists and thugs. Talk about learning from history-- Europeans should have learned that from Hitler. Appeasement shows weakness. I notice that the terrorists are not very circumspect in targeting political targets only. Just ask the victims on the trains in Madrid. (Don't even THINK of excusing those attacks as retaliation for the war in Iraq. Those were INNOCENT people.)
Bush got better grades than Gore in college and graduate school (Yale and Harvard don't forget)
Al Gore FAILED OUT of grad school twice.
Who's the moron?
> Stop splitting the world into American and
> anti-American;
This was a very good comment. The fact is that many of these so-called foreign heads-of-state maintain their power by creating the Big Bad U.S. Enemy to distract their people from their own incompetence and corruption. The heads of France and Germany just did that in their last election because they were losing.
Hell, I was just sitting in a cab the other day and had the driver (Pakistani) tell me that the U.S perpetrated 9/11 on itself in order to make Muslims look bad. Ridiculous. His source for this insight (I'm not kidding): NPR and Al Jazeera
The world can kiss my butt then. I'm tired of it. If it weren't for America the whole world would be speaking German or Russian.
Maybe that missed opportunity is what makes the socialist Europeans so anti-American. They really wish the U.S.S.R. had won the cold war or that Hitler conquered Europe.
Sorry, but I'm just SO TIRED of America-bashing. The economic problems in the third-world are caused by two things far more than American imperialism.
1. Local corruption
2. SOCIALIST imperialism projecting anti-capitalist rules on these countries in the form of environmental laws and pressure not to use the natural resources to create local economies.
It is just easier for Europeans to blame America than face the role they ALSO took in creating the problems they now blame on the U.S.
Iraq got diddly. Most of the money went to the U.S. military to pay for extravagant things like food for the soldiers to eat.
Or would you prefer they didn't eat?
Why in the world should a company pay you to do for $50/hour what someone can do elsewhere for $25/hour? Free markets work by supply and demand.
Protectionism only hurts the economy and costs MORE jobs in the long run. Of course liberals don't think that far ahead, assuming they think at all.