Twilight Princess may very well be better than Link to the Past, and I prefer LttP to Ocarina.
If you could throw/shoot your sword at full health, and the twilight world was a bigger part of the endgame(which would've necessitated another couple temples, and two more zones), I'd hands down call it for Twilight Princess.
Also Metroid Prime 1/2, RE4(if you don't have the PS2 version), and Eternal Darkness(if you don't mind the rather dated graphics) are top-notch.
Well, the longer you wait, the cheaper the console gets and the more games get released for it. More games also start flowing into the used pipeline. It'll also become available and you might be able to find component cables.
I still had a *huge* backlog on the DS/PS2 when I nabbed my Wii, but I'm justifying it to myself by saying that Zelda is Awesome, the multiplayer stuff is a blast, christmas is coming up and I'll be traveling, so I can work through the DS backlog then, and at least I'm set for almost all of next summer. If by some miracle, I clear through my backlog before next year, I'll probably finally pick up my own 360. PS3 will be 2008 at the earliest(and hopefully they have PS2 adapters by then, so I can play custom controller games on the thing).
DIYs use LCD overhead panels(because they were designed for that), which are 480p on the high-end, and many of them are pretty latent, but we're talking DIY there and sub $200. You could use any LCD panel that can stand the heat off the overhead, so it would be a bit of a crapshoot, but probably worth it if you can get a cheap/decent LCD panel off craigslist or via other means.
By 720p I was referring to actual store-bought projectors, they have budget DLPII 720p ones in the $1000 range(HD70/HD72). They also make 1080p projectors, but those are pricey, like > $5k pricey.
The other great thing about projectors(and why I got one to replace the aging CRT I had), is that since I'm in IT, and consult/train people from time to time, I can claim it's for on-site presenting(and I've used mine as such actually)/work. Boom, instant adjustment, so that worked out to be about 15% off in my case courtesy Uncle Sam.
The VC games I've downloaded so far are perfectly emulated, they play precisely like the originals do. The genesis ones in particular impress me, because I've yet to find a really good genesis emulator that doesn't do odd things in full-screen mode on my TV(for some reason the refresh rates on the emulators I've tried and my TV do *NOT* get along).
Only issue/annoyance is it doesn't autoshift the aspect ratio on your TV, so you have to do that by hand. And the selection is pretty limited atm... no Dungeon Explorer or Gunstar Heroes yet. Supposedly more games coming this weekend though.
The other annoyance is that I can't frickin' find a classic controller anywhere. Everything Wii is in short supply.
Also, you may want to nab a few of the better gamecube games. There were some good ones, and you can find em dirt cheap in the used sections of stores these days.
It's actually not a fabulous screen. It's an awesome screen for the money(which is why I went front projection, huge image, great quality, and lower cost apart from the bulbs) and I'm amazed at what the surface does for my picture quality(like, we laugh at TV prices at best buy when they're running HD content picture quality), and the nigh invisible waves(oh, they're there, but you can't see them apart from a very slight keystone effect in the upper right-hand corner) non-tensioned.
Optoma Panoview Greywolf screen.
AVS Forums link for the old model. Good price on it over at Visual Apex92", 106"120".
Also good in that price range is the Da-Lite Hipower.
You just have a bad HDTV. Poor upconverter. Very common, since the cheaper/deal HDTVs tend to be cheap because they really skimp there.
I've been playing the PS2(over composite no less, not component) for months now on a 108" screen(glass-beaded, so it has an anti-aliasing effect) using a decent 720p(what you want for gaming, progressive, 60 fps) native projector. I don't see any of the problems people describe, and I could fit 4 of those $6000 fancy plasmas inside my viewing area.
The Wii looks great, the Gamecube over component looks great, DVDs look great(even w/o using the upconverting feature on the DVD player). The 360 I borrowed looked better at 720p sure, but not $250 and $10 a game better.
Having the exact same problem. The cursor will suddenly center itself and jump around. Zelda is fine, Monkey Ball is fine, Rayman is fine, etc.
Nothing else has those issues. Going to try covering my glass coffee table and adjusting where the Sensor bar is(currently below a 106" 1.8 gain screen).
Why? FF started on the NES. And hell FFVII was originally supposed to be an N64 title.
There is nothing stopping Square from moving FF off Sony, so I wouldn't count on FFXIII being Playstation exclusive until you have it in your hands. No matter what the plans are atm(and we'll presume you don't know them, since your handle here postdates said screens which may or may not exist), they can and have changed in the past.
Also, knowing Square, I'd be surprised if XIII came out any earlier than 2008.
Yea, it's payback for Sony using Nintendo as a model for the dualshock. It's also going along the *exact* same thought process that created the dualshock.
The original Playstation controller was an SNES pad with an extra set of shoulders and extended grips(picture a dualshock minus the analogs, dogbone shaped where the buttons are). In response to the analog stick on the N64 controller, Sony introduced the dualshock. They placed the analogs the only place they could really put them w/o messing up the SNES-style pad, and put two in for balance, and because well, two is better. The dualshock 2 is of course a dualshock, with rumble(err, I mean vibration, because they totally didn't add it in response to the rumble pack) tacked on. The second one(on the original dualshock) mostly went unused as you would recognize it today, for years.
Sony hasn't once been a larger publisher than EA or Nintendo by units sold or total $ amount sold, ever.
If you want to factor all PS sales, by all parties, against all Gamecube/N64 sales, by all parties, then yes, both iterations of playstation comes out ahead by approximately the margins you state, but that's *not* Sony. That's Take 2, EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Square-Enix, Atlus, Konami, Capcom, et all. And they only published for the PS2 over the XBox and Gamecube because that's where the market was. And the market got that way, on the PSX because Sony dropped their stupid no-RPG shit and got Square with FF7, and on the PS2 because it went unopposed for a year.
If they chose to publish elsewhere, then Sony is left alone, and unfortunately for them, they just don't produce more than 1 quality title every two years or so, and certainly nothing of the iconic calibur of Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto, Mario, Zelda, Halo or Metroid apart from Gran Turismo. And yes, I was one of the 5 people that bought Ico in North America. I'm aware of their other titles, by and large, with few exceptions they suck. Hell, Mark of Kri, a SCEA title a few people like to toss up there, isn't even memorable enough to have a wikipedia entry.
Anyway, as to Sony. They can't produce enough units anytime soon to be anything other than a distant third, they've abused their PS2 status by forcing devs to make games on the nigh-zero profit margin PSP(because they just don't sell), they've tried to mandate silly shit like 20% new content on ports. They have the most expensive media format to master and press, mandated. They have the most expensive console. Their launch lineup is atrociously bad, and doesn't get any better until next year. And on top of all that, they can't push enough units out into the chain for any game to be really profitable until Q2 of next year, at the earliest, if they meet their targets, which considering the PS3 was originally supposed to come out early *this* year, isn't likely. They've alienated tech culture via shutting down Bleem, shutting down Lik Sang, and rootkits(and those are just the top 3). Sony atm, looks truly and goodly fucked, Nintendo with their N64 blunders fucked, and if you can't see that, there's no hope for you.
Those publishers I mentioned earlier may go to the Wii, they may go to the 360, they may hedge their bets and do 360/PS3/PC(which is the most likely for next year) or do all 4 platforms, but unless things change drastically over next year, Sony will not enjoy the successes they've had in the past. Which means they won't have the games they had in the past, and Sony itself sure as hell can't make up for that. The PS3 may limp on(hell MGS4 and FFXIII should allow them to do that in much the same way Zelda, Mario and Metroid do for Nintendo, if they stay exclusive on the system), but if you define success as outdoing the PS1 and PS2, and failure as not, it's hard not to place the thing in the failure category. That's as sure a bet as you can make atm. Gaming isn't driven by console brand, it's driven by games, and regardless of where "the most profitable demographic" may be now, that can shift. If it couldn't/wouldn't, Sony wouldn't even be in the game.
And god help them if Nintendo pulls off their blue ocean strategy(they don't need to for Sony to "lose"). If that occurs, then Nintendo takes this round and next round gets *really* interesting.
Nice, thanks for the link. Hopefully I can pick some up at the local shop, or worst comes to worst, the big blue evil. Twilight Princess in 480p should look pretty damn good, especially once my upconverter works it's magic on it.
I dunno how huge it is, honestly, or how important it is. I would guess not very. There are a metric fuck-ton of people who cut their teeth on the Atari 2600, NES, MSX, Sinclair and the like who still have warm fuzzies for certain games on those systems. Hell, most of the people I know in geekdom got into it because of now-ancient computer games that they'll still get slightly misty about. I wouldn't place them in that group.
Honestly, the PS generation didn't come into it's own until FFVII, which was only 9 years ago. Most of em aren't old enough to have the disposable income to flat-out afford graphics splurges on HDTVs, Projectors, $400-$600 consoles and a few $60 games a month. Plus student loans if they're just out of college, rent and the like. Not to mention retirement, other entertainment expenses(such as going out), kids/a family if you have one. Well, at least not reasonably and responsibly.
In a few years, yea. But I have quite a bit of faith in the purchasing power and tastes of that 25-35 sweet spot, who largely aren't part of that generation, and in the case of the older ones, and are less liable to spend that kind of money because, well, ya know, the wife. That's why I think Nintendo is poised to clean up this generation, there's pretty much no other time their current strategy could work. Wait til next generation, and compete at the same level and prices in the soon to be current generation, and you're boned. Sweep in the elders, and you steal the market.
I wouldn't expect it to look leaps and bounds better than FFXII, it's at heart a gamecube game. Which means a little prettier than the PS2 w/o the load times(gah, PS2 load times, I can't go directly from the cube to the PS2, like say from Fire Emblem to Disgae 2... therein lies the path to madness.) or frame stuttering(Shadow of the Collosus, Resident Evil 4...).
I don't find FFXII to be painful to play on a 108" diagonal screen(apart from the afforementioned load times, but that has nothing to do with resolution), and I don't have component video cables for my PS2(480p helps my upconverter a lot), so I'm not worried.
Oh and the "better looking = better" gamers out there are part of the playstation cinematic generation. Everything before this, even stuff by us, sucks. They're all, imo, fucking tools. If I hadn't been pleased with PS2/Gamecube titles, I wouldn't have bought them. That doesn't change when a new console hits and raises the bar for the visuals. Then again I still play pre-N64/PS stuff, and run my @ away from the Ds.
The only thing I'm disappointed about is that it's less than 3 weeks until launch, and I still have no clue when I'll be able to get Wii component cables. Supposedly they'll be available at least off the online Nintendo store, and probably at Nintendo world in NYC, but other than that, no idea. Can't preorder them either. That's irritating, I want them that Sunday, monday at the latest.
What lore? They pretty much threw strict adherance to whatever lore they had out the window when they took away the ability of the forsaken to speak common. This was before release. Then they continued to allow them to speak common in their own literature(including the Arathi Basin teaser).
Exactly. You're an idiot if you buy a PS3 on the strength of Sony's brand. Or banking on enough other idiots buying it to make yourself have an effective crystal ball.
After all, what matters is the games, and that is basically in no way up to Sony(unless you really, really love gran turismo. Or PS1/PS2 titles, in which case buy a PS2 and save yourself $120-$480). It's all up to us. Hence the console wars on the internets.
Pick your poison. We'll see how things turn out.
Pick your side. The one that says FF/MGS would still be FF/MGS no matter where they appear, or the one that's hoping, nay, praying they stay exclusive to the console produced by a company that thought criminal activities were acceptable. The one that says everything that came before has value, or the one that says everything produced before this, well, it sucks. You need our shiny new thing it's more shiny.
From a gaming standpoint, always bet on Nintendo. From a business standpoint, hope it's even-ish so your investments aren't forced into putting money into shitty ROI platforms like the PSP(where all of 6 people will buy it), and no one can dictate terms like that.
You just about summed up how collosally stupid/herd mentality Sony fans are. Good job. You get a gold star.
PS. The dual shock is a shit controller. It's an SNES pad with extended grips and two analog sticks tacked on(because two is better and it needs balance). We're just all so used to it by this point it no longer matters.
PPS. Yea, I call the console with the branch prediction capabilities and clock for clock int-op performance of a graphing calculator "well-designed." Heh. Want to see well-designed? Look at the gamcube. $30 cheaper than the PS2 and it outperforms it by every meaningful metric apart from game library. It's constructed from wolverine's bones and pixie dust to boot. Fuck sony.
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Twilight Princess may very well be better than Link to the Past, and I prefer LttP to Ocarina.
If you could throw/shoot your sword at full health, and the twilight world was a bigger part of the endgame(which would've necessitated another couple temples, and two more zones), I'd hands down call it for Twilight Princess.
A hippo or elephant would fit the description. It's "moveth it's tail like a cedar" not "tail like a cedar"
Both Hippos and Elephants move their tails in a manner that could fit that description, and the rest works. It's not a very good description.
Also Metroid Prime 1/2, RE4(if you don't have the PS2 version), and Eternal Darkness(if you don't mind the rather dated graphics) are top-notch.
Well, the longer you wait, the cheaper the console gets and the more games get released for it. More games also start flowing into the used pipeline. It'll also become available and you might be able to find component cables.
I still had a *huge* backlog on the DS/PS2 when I nabbed my Wii, but I'm justifying it to myself by saying that Zelda is Awesome, the multiplayer stuff is a blast, christmas is coming up and I'll be traveling, so I can work through the DS backlog then, and at least I'm set for almost all of next summer. If by some miracle, I clear through my backlog before next year, I'll probably finally pick up my own 360. PS3 will be 2008 at the earliest(and hopefully they have PS2 adapters by then, so I can play custom controller games on the thing).
Sigh.
DIYs use LCD overhead panels(because they were designed for that), which are 480p on the high-end, and many of them are pretty latent, but we're talking DIY there and sub $200. You could use any LCD panel that can stand the heat off the overhead, so it would be a bit of a crapshoot, but probably worth it if you can get a cheap/decent LCD panel off craigslist or via other means.
By 720p I was referring to actual store-bought projectors, they have budget DLPII 720p ones in the $1000 range(HD70/HD72). They also make 1080p projectors, but those are pricey, like > $5k pricey.
The other great thing about projectors(and why I got one to replace the aging CRT I had), is that since I'm in IT, and consult/train people from time to time, I can claim it's for on-site presenting(and I've used mine as such actually)/work. Boom, instant adjustment, so that worked out to be about 15% off in my case courtesy Uncle Sam.
The VC games I've downloaded so far are perfectly emulated, they play precisely like the originals do. The genesis ones in particular impress me, because I've yet to find a really good genesis emulator that doesn't do odd things in full-screen mode on my TV(for some reason the refresh rates on the emulators I've tried and my TV do *NOT* get along).
Only issue/annoyance is it doesn't autoshift the aspect ratio on your TV, so you have to do that by hand. And the selection is pretty limited atm... no Dungeon Explorer or Gunstar Heroes yet. Supposedly more games coming this weekend though.
The other annoyance is that I can't frickin' find a classic controller anywhere. Everything Wii is in short supply.
Also, you may want to nab a few of the better gamecube games. There were some good ones, and you can find em dirt cheap in the used sections of stores these days.
HAH! You'd think I'd know to preview by now(unclosed < w/o the code ate the comment).
Add another grand onto that for a decent budget projector like an Optoma HD70, and you have a 120" 720p display for < $1400 shipped.
As long as you have controlled lighting, it's great.
Or, if you don't mind being hackish, you can do a DIY projector.
Overhead Projector: $35
LCD Overlay/TFT Display: $110
Quality isn't as good as a premade one, but you can't beat the price.
Instructions are here.
Add another grand onto that for a decent budget projector like an Optoma HD70, and you have a 120" 720p display for here.
It's actually not a fabulous screen. It's an awesome screen for the money(which is why I went front projection, huge image, great quality, and lower cost apart from the bulbs) and I'm amazed at what the surface does for my picture quality(like, we laugh at TV prices at best buy when they're running HD content picture quality), and the nigh invisible waves(oh, they're there, but you can't see them apart from a very slight keystone effect in the upper right-hand corner) non-tensioned.
Optoma Panoview Greywolf screen.
AVS Forums link for the old model. Good price on it over at Visual Apex92", 106" 120".
Also good in that price range is the Da-Lite Hipower.
I can snap some pictures for you if you want.
You just have a bad HDTV. Poor upconverter. Very common, since the cheaper/deal HDTVs tend to be cheap because they really skimp there.
I've been playing the PS2(over composite no less, not component) for months now on a 108" screen(glass-beaded, so it has an anti-aliasing effect) using a decent 720p(what you want for gaming, progressive, 60 fps) native projector. I don't see any of the problems people describe, and I could fit 4 of those $6000 fancy plasmas inside my viewing area.
The Wii looks great, the Gamecube over component looks great, DVDs look great(even w/o using the upconverting feature on the DVD player). The 360 I borrowed looked better at 720p sure, but not $250 and $10 a game better.
Having the exact same problem. The cursor will suddenly center itself and jump around. Zelda is fine, Monkey Ball is fine, Rayman is fine, etc.
Nothing else has those issues. Going to try covering my glass coffee table and adjusting where the Sensor bar is(currently below a 106" 1.8 gain screen).
Why? FF started on the NES. And hell FFVII was originally supposed to be an N64 title.
There is nothing stopping Square from moving FF off Sony, so I wouldn't count on FFXIII being Playstation exclusive until you have it in your hands. No matter what the plans are atm(and we'll presume you don't know them, since your handle here postdates said screens which may or may not exist), they can and have changed in the past.
Also, knowing Square, I'd be surprised if XIII came out any earlier than 2008.
That's the munchkin, aka the power gamer.
We don't talk about munchkins. Munchkins don't talk about munchkins, because they're of course one of the other types... except in MMOs.
Yea, it's payback for Sony using Nintendo as a model for the dualshock. It's also going along the *exact* same thought process that created the dualshock.
The original Playstation controller was an SNES pad with an extra set of shoulders and extended grips(picture a dualshock minus the analogs, dogbone shaped where the buttons are). In response to the analog stick on the N64 controller, Sony introduced the dualshock. They placed the analogs the only place they could really put them w/o messing up the SNES-style pad, and put two in for balance, and because well, two is better. The dualshock 2 is of course a dualshock, with rumble(err, I mean vibration, because they totally didn't add it in response to the rumble pack) tacked on. The second one(on the original dualshock) mostly went unused as you would recognize it today, for years.
Those entries have been in various states of lockdown since E3. FYI.
Sony hasn't once been a larger publisher than EA or Nintendo by units sold or total $ amount sold, ever.
If you want to factor all PS sales, by all parties, against all Gamecube/N64 sales, by all parties, then yes, both iterations of playstation comes out ahead by approximately the margins you state, but that's *not* Sony. That's Take 2, EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Square-Enix, Atlus, Konami, Capcom, et all. And they only published for the PS2 over the XBox and Gamecube because that's where the market was. And the market got that way, on the PSX because Sony dropped their stupid no-RPG shit and got Square with FF7, and on the PS2 because it went unopposed for a year.
If they chose to publish elsewhere, then Sony is left alone, and unfortunately for them, they just don't produce more than 1 quality title every two years or so, and certainly nothing of the iconic calibur of Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto, Mario, Zelda, Halo or Metroid apart from Gran Turismo. And yes, I was one of the 5 people that bought Ico in North America. I'm aware of their other titles, by and large, with few exceptions they suck. Hell, Mark of Kri, a SCEA title a few people like to toss up there, isn't even memorable enough to have a wikipedia entry.
Anyway, as to Sony. They can't produce enough units anytime soon to be anything other than a distant third, they've abused their PS2 status by forcing devs to make games on the nigh-zero profit margin PSP(because they just don't sell), they've tried to mandate silly shit like 20% new content on ports. They have the most expensive media format to master and press, mandated. They have the most expensive console. Their launch lineup is atrociously bad, and doesn't get any better until next year. And on top of all that, they can't push enough units out into the chain for any game to be really profitable until Q2 of next year, at the earliest, if they meet their targets, which considering the PS3 was originally supposed to come out early *this* year, isn't likely. They've alienated tech culture via shutting down Bleem, shutting down Lik Sang, and rootkits(and those are just the top 3). Sony atm, looks truly and goodly fucked, Nintendo with their N64 blunders fucked, and if you can't see that, there's no hope for you.
Those publishers I mentioned earlier may go to the Wii, they may go to the 360, they may hedge their bets and do 360/PS3/PC(which is the most likely for next year) or do all 4 platforms, but unless things change drastically over next year, Sony will not enjoy the successes they've had in the past. Which means they won't have the games they had in the past, and Sony itself sure as hell can't make up for that. The PS3 may limp on(hell MGS4 and FFXIII should allow them to do that in much the same way Zelda, Mario and Metroid do for Nintendo, if they stay exclusive on the system), but if you define success as outdoing the PS1 and PS2, and failure as not, it's hard not to place the thing in the failure category. That's as sure a bet as you can make atm. Gaming isn't driven by console brand, it's driven by games, and regardless of where "the most profitable demographic" may be now, that can shift. If it couldn't/wouldn't, Sony wouldn't even be in the game.
And god help them if Nintendo pulls off their blue ocean strategy(they don't need to for Sony to "lose"). If that occurs, then Nintendo takes this round and next round gets *really* interesting.
Nice, thanks for the link. Hopefully I can pick some up at the local shop, or worst comes to worst, the big blue evil. Twilight Princess in 480p should look pretty damn good, especially once my upconverter works it's magic on it.
I dunno how huge it is, honestly, or how important it is. I would guess not very. There are a metric fuck-ton of people who cut their teeth on the Atari 2600, NES, MSX, Sinclair and the like who still have warm fuzzies for certain games on those systems. Hell, most of the people I know in geekdom got into it because of now-ancient computer games that they'll still get slightly misty about. I wouldn't place them in that group.
Honestly, the PS generation didn't come into it's own until FFVII, which was only 9 years ago. Most of em aren't old enough to have the disposable income to flat-out afford graphics splurges on HDTVs, Projectors, $400-$600 consoles and a few $60 games a month. Plus student loans if they're just out of college, rent and the like. Not to mention retirement, other entertainment expenses(such as going out), kids/a family if you have one. Well, at least not reasonably and responsibly.
In a few years, yea. But I have quite a bit of faith in the purchasing power and tastes of that 25-35 sweet spot, who largely aren't part of that generation, and in the case of the older ones, and are less liable to spend that kind of money because, well, ya know, the wife. That's why I think Nintendo is poised to clean up this generation, there's pretty much no other time their current strategy could work. Wait til next generation, and compete at the same level and prices in the soon to be current generation, and you're boned. Sweep in the elders, and you steal the market.
I wouldn't expect it to look leaps and bounds better than FFXII, it's at heart a gamecube game. Which means a little prettier than the PS2 w/o the load times(gah, PS2 load times, I can't go directly from the cube to the PS2, like say from Fire Emblem to Disgae 2... therein lies the path to madness.) or frame stuttering(Shadow of the Collosus, Resident Evil 4...).
I don't find FFXII to be painful to play on a 108" diagonal screen(apart from the afforementioned load times, but that has nothing to do with resolution), and I don't have component video cables for my PS2(480p helps my upconverter a lot), so I'm not worried.
Oh and the "better looking = better" gamers out there are part of the playstation cinematic generation. Everything before this, even stuff by us, sucks. They're all, imo, fucking tools. If I hadn't been pleased with PS2/Gamecube titles, I wouldn't have bought them. That doesn't change when a new console hits and raises the bar for the visuals. Then again I still play pre-N64/PS stuff, and run my @ away from the Ds.
The only thing I'm disappointed about is that it's less than 3 weeks until launch, and I still have no clue when I'll be able to get Wii component cables. Supposedly they'll be available at least off the online Nintendo store, and probably at Nintendo world in NYC, but other than that, no idea. Can't preorder them either. That's irritating, I want them that Sunday, monday at the latest.
compare to Shadow of the Colossus and other recent games
Twilight Princess looks better. Less jagged, more texture depth, no frame stuttering. Any other insights?
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Dark Elves are in the trailer. There's what I presume is a witch elf fighting a high-elf loremaster.
Anyway, they're confirmed to be in the game.
What lore? They pretty much threw strict adherance to whatever lore they had out the window when they took away the ability of the forsaken to speak common. This was before release. Then they continued to allow them to speak common in their own literature(including the Arathi Basin teaser).
Exactly. You're an idiot if you buy a PS3 on the strength of Sony's brand. Or banking on enough other idiots buying it to make yourself have an effective crystal ball.
After all, what matters is the games, and that is basically in no way up to Sony(unless you really, really love gran turismo. Or PS1/PS2 titles, in which case buy a PS2 and save yourself $120-$480). It's all up to us. Hence the console wars on the internets.
Pick your poison. We'll see how things turn out.
Pick your side. The one that says FF/MGS would still be FF/MGS no matter where they appear, or the one that's hoping, nay, praying they stay exclusive to the console produced by a company that thought criminal activities were acceptable. The one that says everything that came before has value, or the one that says everything produced before this, well, it sucks. You need our shiny new thing it's more shiny.
From a gaming standpoint, always bet on Nintendo. From a business standpoint, hope it's even-ish so your investments aren't forced into putting money into shitty ROI platforms like the PSP(where all of 6 people will buy it), and no one can dictate terms like that.
You just about summed up how collosally stupid/herd mentality Sony fans are. Good job. You get a gold star.
PS. The dual shock is a shit controller. It's an SNES pad with extended grips and two analog sticks tacked on(because two is better and it needs balance). We're just all so used to it by this point it no longer matters.
PPS. Yea, I call the console with the branch prediction capabilities and clock for clock int-op performance of a graphing calculator "well-designed." Heh. Want to see well-designed? Look at the gamcube. $30 cheaper than the PS2 and it outperforms it by every meaningful metric apart from game library. It's constructed from wolverine's bones and pixie dust to boot. Fuck sony.
PPPS. We got haircuts.
Or, like the gamecube, you can use hardware based compression(9:1 in the case of the cube IIRC).
If the cube had taken full DVDs, you could've crammed 81GB of texture data onto it.