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PS3 Controller Flimsy, Wii Controller Fun
With the advent of new input styles in the PS3 and Wii, many gamers are wondering what it will be like to actually play with the new controllers. Via Aeropause, an article on IGN says that the SIXAXIS controller is flimsy and poorly designed. Meanwhile, via Joystiq, an article on British site Entertainmentwise reports that the Wii isn't physically exhausting at all, as some people feared. After two hours of playtime, in fact, they loved the experience. From the article: "Some gamers have shown concern that the activity level required to play Wii games, especially the sporty titles, may be too high. There are concerns that you have to stand for long periods of time and use body actions such as swinging your arm above your head or at the side of your body. After playing non stop for two hours, did this happen to me? No. I'm not exactly Wonder woman in terms of fitness and I can assure you, as a regular player there was enough action to warrant perhaps making sure one has access to a tap before playing (you're going to want a drink if you play for as long as we did!) and possibly ensuring plenty of moving around space in your living room. The key to the Wii control is that even the most active title on the launch line up, Wii Sports, doesn't require you to make large body motions unless you want to."
I love whoever came up with the title for this topic. Excuse me while I get into my flame proof bunker and hide this war out.
Everyone I have talked to about Wii was concerned about the need to constantly move around in order to interact with the system. Frankly people seemed concerned that they would look "stupid". I can't wait to try these games, I believe that the Wii Remote and Nunchuck controllers will allow real 3D control over 3D environments for the very first time, it seems like it's going to be nonstop fun.
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This post is grabbing one review for one piece of hardware and comaring it to a completely different review of another piece of hardware? That's just silly. Somebody let me know when there are some side-by-side comparisons of both controllers actually comparing the featuresets and performance of each.
I bet they both shatter nicely when I chuck them against a wall in anger
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I'm amazed how Zonk listens to the voices of his fans!
I also heard that the SIXAXIS controller ... only uses three axes :-(
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...PSP UMDs come flying out like throwing stars during normal gameplay all the time...
Forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical of a negative review of a Sony product before it is even released. I'll wait until I see a demo unit and judge for myself.
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The UK is in the last of the major regions to get these consoles, yet both articles originate here. How odd.
I wonder if Slashdot purposely tries to select negative PS3 stories... it certainly seems like it since there are some stories that are positive that are being skipped. Of course, Microsoft is probably also funding some anti-Sony blogs, as part of their marketing campaign.
I can't wait, im actually one of the ones who liked the idea of the controller for the need to move around. My kids love their gamecube and the idea of combining their "entertainment" with more exercise could only be a good thing. They dont spend too much time on their current console but with winter coming gaming becomes much more of a time waster. I am so glad Nintendo decided to include Wii sports as a pack-in, it looks to be a good title and a fun party game. Who cares what you look like, i cant play a good game without dodging and leaning anyway so this just means I will be doing it for a purpose.
I wonder if the bad feedback of the ps3 controller continues, if it will spark a redesign? Its not like it hasnt happened before, the original dual shock came out years after the lauch of the original playstation if I remember correctly. I wouldnt mind seeing the "boomerang" controller they showed off early in the design. Is the flimy feel a real problem or is it simply the loss of heft from the rumble motors?
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Wow, there seems to be some major issues with the PS3 at this late date. Even though its supposed to be out next month there are these problems outstanding:
- Final software have not been shipped to developers yet
- Final hardware have not been shipped to developers yet
- Final online specs have not been shipped to developers yet
Yet the developers are supposed to be producing games based on these shaky specifications? How are they possibly going to have time to beta test before manufacturing? How would they know how to add online support if the service isn't up yet?
Now the PS3 controller is supposed to be bad too. What a disaster!
Of all the things to be worried about in a console, getting some physical activity in (for the average person) should be the _least_ of ones concerns, and should instead be welcomed. Most should be able to come to grips with the fact that they likely don't get enough physical exercise as it is. I'm more worried about what the multiple purchases will do to my account than my arms. In the worst case scenario, think of it as a thermostat of sorts: when you spend too much time playing, you have feedback in the form of pain so you know its time to do something else.
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...as always, for your honest and responsible reporting of videogame news from a totally objective and unbiased point of view.
After all, half of the weight in the PS2 controller, the regular one, was down to the heavy vibration motors. The absence of these in any device would make it lighter than a device with the motors.
it shows Nintendo acting for the good of the community,
I suspect playing th wii will get those overweight americans back in shape
Nowhere in the article did it say the Sixaxis was "flimsy" or in fact "poorly designed" - they just didn't feel it was as much improved as the 360 controller. Basically if you read the whole thing it comes off with them rather thinking it's like a PS2 controller. And there were some aspects they liked, like the center button showing you to the minute how much battery life was left in your controller.
Attach the "Zonked" tag for such a blantant re-writing of article content.
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Quite frankly, hearing that the Wii controller is sturdy enough is great, as half of why I'm so interested is that it forces me or my son (and friends) to get up off the couch to play. Don't think we'll be diving behind the couch like they show in a lot of the trailers and movies, though.
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But I will have to vacuum and pick up a lot more regularly - there goes my stack of magazines
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Another thing. Have you ever watched someone play video games with a regular controller. Most people look pretty stupid.
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Yeah, I'd rather have people look in my window and see me getting a bit of exercise than resemble Cartman on the World of Warcraft episode of South Park.
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I would really like it if I could see an image of this controller. If you are like me here is an image of the ps3 controller:l er-final.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/ps3-control
Correct me if this is out of date, it looks like it's from May. Same style/feel of the PS2 dual shock.
nothing
More worrying still, the newly-designed lower L and R shoulder triggers feel more like they belong on an early controller prototype than the near-final model.
It is an early controller prototype. The PS3 they have won't even play DVDs. But don't let that stop a nice Sony bash Zonk, after all its all you've got going on in games.slashdot.
I'd edit him out of my visible list but then the games section would be empty. Probably worthwhile anyhow.
Yeah, except on page two where they did say pretty much the same thing:
"...the SIXAXIS [controller] feels cheap, plasticky, uncomfortable and disconcertingly light."
Cheap and plasticky means "flimsy" and uncomfortable means "poorly designed".
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Zonk is just upset because they canned their original "boomerang" shaped controller. He loved that thing.
One time I threw a brick at a duck.
he funny bit is that Nintendo has already lost the Next-Gen war.
The Japanese weekly games magazine Famitsu did a survey of over 4000 attendees of the Tokyo Game Show:
Which next-generation system are you most looking forward to:
PS3 58.3%
Wii 33.8%
Xbox 360 7.9%
The Wii Controller is not a physical burden, depending on how the developers use it. In one of the games I've played, there is a very fun but very tiring excercise that exists in a 1v1 mode. All other instances I have seen create negligible burden on the user. The only exception to this may depend on your setup. We have desks and it's not always easy to use the wiimote if you are an elbows on table kinda guy.
The PS3 controller feels a lot lighter without the vibration motor. It takes a bit of getting used to. Also, the trigger buttons have been slightly improved (IMO). I haven't seen anything really cool done with the 3-axis movement yet.
In all honesty, I can see the wiimote improving not just finger dexterity, but arm dexterity and resulting "brain dexterity" (thus improving ambidexterity). The PS3 I am not so sure about because you are using both arms in conjunction and really only require one side of the brain to tell your dominant hand what to do. In my humble opinion, the wiimote has great potential for improving certain motor skills whereas the PS3 is largely, and still, more of a controller as opposed to an customizable interface device.
Attach the "Zonked" tag for such a blantant re-writing of article content.
Quite. See how far you get if you submit an article about alleged problems with the Wii and sunlight, or Wii consoles locking up.
I'd mod you down, but then no one would know why. If you had bothered to read the article until the end, here it is:
FTFA:
"Personally, we can't help but feel that the SIXAXIS (as it's now known) has been sadly neglected when viewed alongside the rest of the PS3. Compared to Microsoft's uber-comfortable Xbox 360 pad, the SIXAXIS feels cheap, plasticky, uncomfortable and disconcertingly light - almost as if it's going to fly out of your hands during those more extreme gaming moments.
More worrying still, the newly-designed lower L and R shoulder triggers feel more like they belong on an early controller prototype than the near-final model. Replicating the 360 pad, rather than being simple shoulder-mounted buttons, the triggers are now hinged horizontally along the controller, with pressure forcing them inward along the bottom - like triggers then, really. Trouble is, they're placed almost unnaturally low meaning we found ourselves operating them by jamming our fingers in between the hinges to apply pressure, rather than using the buttons themselves. What's more, the triggers are convex, with no grooves to keep your fingers in place - an issue further compounded by their smooth finish, offering no resistance against your finger tips. Invariably we found our digits slipping off with the triggers snapping back to their default position. Bah. Of course, the PS2's Dual Shock pad wasn't without its faults either but we still learned to live with it. It's just a shame that Sony hasn't used its resources to bring its controller up to next-gen standards along with its cutting-edge hardware."
I don't know if Sony just didn't let the reviewers say anything interesting, or if the optical drive and on off buttons are really some of the more exciting aspects of the unit. I mean really, does any body really give a crap is a console is tray loading or slot loading? Both styles of optical drive have been around for what, 10 years? And a touch sensitive eject button? Who cares?
What about the games? Is the thing any fun to play? I guess they were only allowed to play one game and didn't bother saying anything about it since they have another article in the works. Add in some random comments about the firmware being incomplete and some negative comments about the controller and that's the whole article. I can't say the overall article was negative, but since the features they seemed most excited about are incidental to the actual gameplay I don't think you could call it positive.
Now contrast this with the Wii review:
It's every independent journalist's nightmare to sound like a hype generating machine; the very sight of hype sends us screaming for the hills. However, just sometimes there is hype well deserved. This is one such time. This controller, my friends, is to gaming what remote controllers were to TV sets. You have to play with this thing, and we're convinced you're going to love it. Really.
The article is about the same length, but is focused almost 100% on an issue that is actually relevant to gameplay. And comes up with very positive comments about it. I think the Wii is really going to be the console to beat this generation.
I'm a game player that can go from zero to crazy psycho bitch in under 4.8 seconds of video game frustration. I am pretty rough on my game controllers sometimes but have only ever succeeded in breaking a single controller: a Dual Shock 2 that literally shattered when I smashed it against the floor. For reference, it was because of those ambulance missions in GTAIII and I was thankful that I did not injure myself as well as the controller.
If I can break a PS2 controller, then I have no doubt that the 'already described as flimsy' PS3 SIXAXIS would shatter just as easily. No other controller has ever shattered during my abuse; I have two controllers that rattle (Genesis 3 button and an orange Gamecube), a Sidewinder gamepad with teeth marks (don't ask) and a scuff on my furniture where an Xbox Controller S proved that it was stronger. I've even had to track down errant keys and pop them back on the keyboard after a dreaded WoW pick up group went awry. Even the original Playstation controllers could take some punishment as they bear their scars but still work. Somewhere along the lines Sony just switched to brittle plastic.
Seriously, I'm not that strong. I imagine that the stereotypical Slashdot loaf could beat me at arm-wrestling. If Sony's controllers can't stand up to my abuse then they sure as hell won't survive a testosterone addled teen's. I will reserve my final judgement until I can mangle both a Wii Remote and a SIXAXIS first hand, but I'm just saying that it doesn't look good.
Oh and I have been trying to control myself. You know you have a problem when your boyfriend refuses to play Street Fighter with you because he doesn't want to upset you. I can be scary sometimes.
Well, technically you're right. It's cheap and plasticky, not flimsy or poorly designed. Whatever.
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Compared to Microsoft's uber-comfortable Xbox 360 pad, the SIXAXIS feels cheap, plasticky, uncomfortable and disconcertingly light
Read what I said again. Then read what you said. Then read what the article said. Then read what you said. Then read what I said one more time.
Which of the words above (or in any part you quoted, or in the article yourself) is "Flimsy"? "Plasticy" does not mean "Flimsy". "Light" does not mean "Flimsy". Uncomfortable does not even mean "Flimsy". Go ahead, check a Thesaurus!
Also note EXACTLY what I said in my response, which was that they thought the design should have evolved more which is exactly what the text you quoted says - if you had bothered to read it carefully. I didn't say they liked it wholly, just that they basically thought it was about the same as the PS2 controller - which they also found flawed. And of course you left off the text where they were pretty happy they could read battery life at the press of a button, but then you just couldn't bring yourself to say anything positive about SOny, could you?
It's just this kind of biased misreading of text that makes Slashdot games articles such a joke. You are luky you did not just mod me down, for then you would not understand why you took the massive Karma hit your upmods are about to take once the metamods come in and read the actual text. It's pretty funny that you are so anti-Sony that your mind actually inserted the word "Flimsy" in there for you when it's not there.
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Your right. Here's a list of words they used to describe the controller:
"neglected"
"cheap"
"plasticky"
"uncomfortable"
"disconcerting"
"worrying"
"unnatural"
"slipping"
"shame"
"faults"
And to sum up:
"we don't really like it all that much"
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http://ps3.ign.com/articles/738/738858p2.html
You carefully position the disc-based media of your choice against the PS3's front-loading drive slot and the magic fairies deep inside suck it up like a particularly enthusiastic four-quid whore.
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I think this asshat refreshes Slashdot all day looking for keywords "Sony" and "PS3", just so he can find some minor point to quibble on, and bash Zonk for his "anti-Sony bias".
Dude, relax. A lot. No amount of Zonk in this world will prevent you from enjoying your precious PS3.
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
Sorry, but you're posting history tells that you're an anti-Sony "psycho-bitch". Most likely trolling for Microsoft and supporting the Xbox 360.
Um, I'm not sure that was a fair test for the Wii. I mean how many games do you only play for 2 hours? If they really wanted to fairly test it, then they should have had 4-5 hour testing times every weekday and then two 15-18 hour weekend sessions. Come on who only plays for 2 hours at a time? During school, I'd play video games from 4:00-9:00 thats about 5 hours with about 30 min for dinner somewhere in there and homework during the hour of 9:00-10:00 during Star Trek.
As an adult, I don't play nearly as much. I get home around 5:30-6:00 and it takes 30 min to an 1 hour to fix dinner and eat. So say 6:00-10:00 or 6:00-11:00 is left for video game time. That's 4-5 hours. I've been drooling over the Wii, but will I kill over after getting it and Zelda or Mario?
On a side note, if I don't die from over excerise, I might get fit.
This one goes to 11.
The meaning of plasticky does not seem to be apparent to you. It generally means light (or overlight as in this case) and mostly composed of plastic (imagine that!) instead of other materials like metal and rubber, and has nothing to do with durability - legos are describes as plasticky for example, would you consider them not to be durable? The terms "light", "plasticy", and "uncomfortable" all fit together but say nothing about durability. I am not saying the PS3 controller will be a wonder to behold - what I am saying is that the original article did not say "Flimsy" and that still holds true, no matter how you try to divert attention from this fundamnetal mistake in the writeup. Indeed, something could be flimsy but comfortable so to characterise it as "Flimsy" is misleading.
The lack of basic english comprehension around here is astounding; I suppose since so many readers such as yourself cannot understand the meaning of simple words Zonk should be partly forgiven for the inexact mistranslation.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
See, not once does "Flimsy" appear in that list. Flimsy could also describe something that would be comfortable; hence my dislike for the misleading re-write. He should have said "uncomfortable" which is a generic enough term to describe the findings without resorting to misleading characteristics of the controller never mentioned in the article.
You too are reading in to the artcle what you want to see and not reading what is there.
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"Which of the words above (or in any part you quoted, or in the article yourself) is "Flimsy"?"
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Light
I checked a thesaurus...... Flimsy is listed under Light and Light is listed under Flimsy
Good enough for me.
Not to mention Plasticy does not appear to be a word, so I define it as Flimsy (2 to 1 so would the author)! Prove it means something else!
Maybe you should check one before you tell others to do so
Cheap and plasticy to me that does not say "flimsy" as there are plenty of very plastic things on the planet that are durable as hell (like legos). Why not actually use those words which the article DID say instead of taking meaning from them that may not be there?
I'll give you poorly designed if it is truly uncomforable to hold though, that would be a design flaw. It's hard to know though if they evaluation of either system was with a final controller.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The meaning of plasticky does not seem to be apparent to you.
The meaning of cheap does not seem to be apparent to you. Neither does it's combination with "plasticky". It generally means light, and composed of cheap plastic (imagine that!), and has quite a lot to do with durability, especially in the vernacular, where "cheap plastic" is a common slur against something made for the least amount of money possible and which breaks the first time you put any torque on it.
If those words don't imply "Flimsy" to you, then you really are the one who lacks basic English comprehension. I do suppose you can be forgiven since you were willing to forgive.
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That's actually pretty disgraceful.
Henceforth, along with the worthless whatever.com is, like slashdot, an OSDN company disclaimers, every time Zonk posts something game-related I'd like a Zonk is incapable of performing his function as a reasonably unbiased editor on this topic. And I think it's important that the disclaimer stays there when he dupes the article the next day too. At least that'd tell people something they might not know.
there is no need to sign your posts. this isn't usenet. your username is right there above your post. stop it.
"Plasticky" (not Plasticy) is a word. But one without a great online definition by any authoritative source. I may have mispelled that myself before, sorry about that if so.
I think it's too much of a stretch to go from Light to Flimsy when you are talking about plastic, which is by defintion light but strong. I know exactly the kind of things they are talking about, like a PS2 controller without the weight of the rumble components - light, plenty strong, and also plastiky. That's why I simply cannot get behind the "Flimsy" definition without holding one myself. If it were in fact flimsy in the way plastic thigns can be flimsy, they would have described creaking or twisting as well.
There seem to be plenty of things to complain about with the PS3 controller without making up flaws. That's my problem with Zonk and so many posts, the mindless over-extrapolation of flaws that do not exist. The "$600" cost when the cheapest version is in fact $500. The "inability to play HD" on the cheaper model which was there even before they decided to include HDMI on all models. And now, a "Flimsy" controller when it simply may be strong and not as comfortable as a 360 controller. Again, plenty there to complain about without making stuff up and having searches on your own posts or stories make you look like a blithering fanboy (not you, more Zonk and a few other responders).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
PS3 controller functional.
It seems the Wii controller is still having problems working in a room with sunlight, or fluorescent or halogen lighting.
I think I'd rather have a controller that worked properly and could be change if desired.
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Oh and I have been trying to control myself. You know you have a problem when your boyfriend refuses to play Street Fighter with you because he doesn't want to upset you. I can be scary sometimes.
s/upset you/have a month without any sex in revenge
Gosh forbid we want a controler that actually makes people MOVE. Hell that little motion that johny is getting while playing WII might be the only excersise he gets all week.
Reading this little review of the Wii and its games shows that the Wiimote isn't without fault either, especially when it comes to games that only got adopted to the Wii and not written from scratch and yes, that includes Zelda.
It however doesn't stop with this, its not just a problem with badly adopted games (very bad sign for multi-platform titles and thus third party support), but there is also another "problem" with the Wiimote that seems to have been largly unnoticed. Unlike early rumors have indicated the Wiimote isn't a true 3D device that can detect its position in space, instead it can only detect relative motion and tilt, just like the PS3 controller, the only different is that the Wiimote has a lightgun-like sensor that allows aiming at the TV/sensorbar. This pretty much destroys a lot of game ideas, like for example everyones favorite, the realistic sword fighting. Sure, there can still be sword games, but it won't be a 1:1 mapping from Wiimote to sword. Red Steel for example is even after the cleanup limited to basically 8 predefined sword moves.
That of course doesn't mean that the Wii will be a bad console, but after all the hype some people should better adjust their expectations to reality or they will have to deal with a huge disapointment.
They're still looking forward to the Xbox 360? I knew the launch in Japan was underwhelming, but it wasn't THAT bad.
The poll is important, but to say that it will reflect real world numbers is a difficult position to defend, especially when Japan is getting a meagre 100k PS3 systems compared to around 1m Wii systems. Even if those numbers are accurate and 50-60% of the Japanese gaming population wants a PS3 and is willing to spend the money for one, what amounts to somewhere between 3-5% will actually be able to grab one.
There's very little doubt that all 100k PS3s in Japan will sell out as quickly if not moreso than the preorders did here. However, the PS3 can only claim as much marketshare as console are manufactured. Eventually their process will ramp up and they'll fill out demand, but eventually is a big risk. That not only gives time for Nintendo and maybe Microsoft to gain marketshare, but also allows reviewers and gamers to state their opinions comparing the consoles. These may be favorable, but if they are anything less than favorable (from it's just as good as the others to other options suck as it sucks) it could really take the wind out of Sony's sails.
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muhahhaha... I can't wait for the first driving game. DRUNK driving extreme. hahah
You can even get to Kevin Bacon
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Crap, I missed the 'Post Anonymously' again...
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Zonk is not a Nintendo fanboy. Zonk is a Microsoft fanboy. He praises the Wii only because he is following Peter Moore's strategy of hurting Sony by promoting Nintendo, thus indirectly helping the 360-- and he only really began doing so after the Slashdot readership (which is full of rabid Nintendo fanboys) started overwhelming him. Zonk's Microsoft fanboyism only begins to look like Nintendo fanboyism because, in his desperate attempts to say anything to make Sony look bad, it is lately much easier to find pro-Nintendo anti-Sony propaganda than pro-Microsoft anti-Sony propaganda.
Please, please do not insult us Nintendo fanboys by lumping us in the same boat with Zonk. We have nothing to do with this madman.
Nothing else to say, really. I knew who posted this the second I read the title. Zonk, you are the worst editor ever.
I got to try one out recently, it was light as hell, which I thought was a good thing, responsive too..
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That's exactly what I was saying, use the smae words they use instead of making them up.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The meaning of cheap does not seem to be apparent to you. Neither does it's combination with "plasticky". It generally means light, and composed of cheap plastic (imagine that!), and has quite a lot to do with durability, especially in the vernacular, where "cheap plastic" is a common slur against something made for the least amount of money possible and which breaks the first time you put any torque on it.
Legos are cheap plastic, and they are indestructible.
If those words don't imply "Flimsy" to you, then you really are the one who lacks basic English comprehension. I do suppose you can be forgiven since you were willing to forgive.
Oh, I wasn't forgiving you - you should know better. I was just forgiving Zonk. You had the benefit of my educational post beforehand to show you the correct definition so by ignoring it you are simply obtuse, not forgiven.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I just preordered my Wii today (2nd last one!). There were a pile of nerds outside the store when I got there, many of whom were there since midnight. There were 16 of us for 14 Wii, not counting the many people who were turned away after they started taking money. They also had 5 PS3 preorders, but they didn't sell the 5th one until I was leaving. One thing that I found rather annoying was that, while Nintendo claims the Wii is supposed to be about participation and community, they only give you one controller with the system. Makes me wonder how much the controllers are costing them to make?
that's the PS button slap-bang in the middle of the pad. At present, it doesn't seem its full power has been truly harnessed, with our friendly Sony representative unable to explain what we can expect from it in final retail units. For the time being though, holding the button down for a couple of seconds - whether in-game of other wise - brings up a secondary menu, featuring options to turn off your console or disable the wireless controller you're using. Even more handily, the display shows the amount of play-time (in minutes, no less!) left in your current battery charge. Toot!
Thats not exactly the words of someone who 'fucking loved it'.
I have to admit that on reading the title to this article, my first thought was to cringe at the controversy that Zonk is bringing on himself.
But the truth is, Zonk is reporting the news on this one. Sure, TFA1 is a love-fest for the PS3. That just isn't news. Did anyone actually expect this to be anything but an awesome console? The negative press has all been about the cost, the delays, the decision to go BlueRay, etc., etc. Nobody but nobody has been predicting that all those pixels and polys per second would lead to a console that wasn't fun.
On the other hand, there has been a lot of speculation on whether the PS3's controller would be any good, or just a "me too" quick ripoff of the Wiimote. This article answers that question, and that's news. There have also been a lot of questions about how tiring the Wiimote will be to use and how effectively it really works. TFA2 addresses that, so that's news too.
Sorry, guys - Zonk got it right on this one.
Oh good, I was afraid I would have to be in shape to do nothing with the new Wii.
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Found my picture. Guess you should have looked first - I invented it. You just misused it for a point that you couldn't quite make because you overlooked the obvious. Your bane was the lack of a single word...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I just cannot stand people who use words inexactly. or frankly blithering idiots who come in droves when Sony stories arise, just begging to be corrected. It's not that normally they are blithering idiots mind you; it is a loathing of hatred that drives reason and sense from their mind. Hopefully some of them will snap out of the enraged funk they place themselves in with enough doses of reality.
Please note that I was quite happy to retract the complaint against mentioning poor design when it was pointed out the uncomfortable in a controller basically means poor design - that is accurate. I am no friend of Sony but instead a champion of truth and truth alone. I'm not even going to be buying a PS3 for some time, if ever, and I really like the 360. You see, unlike Zonk I can actually enjoy the strengths of each console instead of seeing any given console as my deadly foe to be vanquished at the cost of my dignity.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
And the only hat I like are fedoras.
If you don't think Slashdot has an "anti Sony bias", well then - you must be new here. As the saying goes.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Personally, unlike some people here, I am really interested in the PS3. A commitment to linux (they are going to be sure about it this time, as they got in tax trouble last time), a new processor architecture that may be good for scientific computation and a suprising easy to program for kit (despite the bizarre system, there are good reports), and of course GTA IV (I know, xbox360 will have it too). However, here is the big one: the PS3 will use OpenGL (embedded, somewhat different, yes), and rely on many other open standards. A GNU toolchain is supplied. Can anyone else imagine this to be portable? If a developer was to plan for the future, they could make a general code pool, keeping cell optimizations seperate, and have a game easily portable to Macintosh and Windows, and perhaps even Linux if they feel so inclined. If the PS3 takes off, it could possibly reduce the DirectX grip on the market.
So what's with all the hate? Then again, I probably won't be buying any of these machines...
I have freaks! I did something right...
Are we talking about the same company that tried to 0wn our computers by means of infecting them, that also put people at risk with their badly designed batteries and that releases a new version of firmware for the PSP every other week because they get annoyed that people may actually dare too use the device they bought to hve somecomputing fun?
The same company that sold MP3 players that did not play MP3 files?
Or maybe we aren't andI am getting confussed.
Maybe you are talkig about Zony, Soni, or Sonee.
Sorry, my bad.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
... how are we suppossed to believe that you do what you just wrote?
....
Tlk about credibility
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
... you'll sit there, all bruised, trying to give your beater the benefit of your impartial appreciation of his charms.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
All of them have tennis courts. So you may care to mention that mythical place completely un-courted.
... never mind.
Ummm, get tennis lessons, that ensures that people the other side of the net will be picking most of the balls.
Oh wait, mythical place with no tennis courts
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Sony bad. Nintendo good.
Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
1. Why would I spend >$300 to play sports with my friends when I could, say, by the rackets or a football and play like it was meant to.
2. I never did want to start LARPing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LARP/
You see, with the Wii controller you have no choice weather not use an analog stick or the motion sensor, so you will have to move around when your playing something weather you want to or not. But with the PS3 controller you will most likely be able to choose from the analog sticks or the motion sensor. When you are playing with the Wii controller you probably wont have to move around a whole lot, but its still moving around right? but with the PS3 controller you dont have to move anything but your fingers. In the article it said that after two hours of playing the Wii he wasnt tired, and im sure of that, but i think you are going to want to play for a lot more than 2 hours.
So I think that they should just stop comparing the Wii controller to the PS3 controller because there is a pretty big difference between the two. and in my oppinion the Wii will mainly be baught for younger kids that have more energy and the PS3 will be baught by the older "hardcore" gamers.
Man, you really need to -get a life- and chill the fuck out. Let's put it into perspective - it's just a controller, FFS. If you're that angry, do something positive, like getting that FUCK Bush out of office.
Perhaps the next time you think you can simply make up words to describe a product instead of using what is in an article you will know better
An excerpt:
"It's still a little too light for my taste, especially because I have big hands and it barely felt like I was holding anything at times...ut the L2 and R2 buttons now have much better resistance to them, and the shell of the controller feels a bit more solid."
See? Light, plasticy - and solid. Pretty obvious for anyone reading the article, as I said before.
Another excerpt (from second page):
"I was initially surprised at how light the SIXAXIS is (surely due to the removal of dual shock), but I didn't think it made the controller feel "cheap." It really does feel like the same old PlayStation controller.
Which just goes to show exactly what I said based on the original story - the controller feels a lot like the PS2 controller, and thus the reviewers in that story were dissapointed it had not changed more.
I figured I might as well folloup the article since you'd never see this story on Slashdot. I also feel it's important to note that original article was from IGN as well, just the UK branch.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The hat is back!
Perhaps the next time you think you can simply make up words to describe a product instead of using what is in an article you will know better
An excerpt:
"It's still a little too light for my taste, especially because I have big hands and it barely felt like I was holding anything at times...ut the L2 and R2 buttons now have much better resistance to them, and the shell of the controller feels a bit more solid."
See? Light, plasticy - and solid. Pretty obvious for anyone reading the article, as I said before.
Another excerpt (from second page):
"I was initially surprised at how light the SIXAXIS is (surely due to the removal of dual shock), but I didn't think it made the controller feel "cheap." It really does feel like the same old PlayStation controller.
Which just goes to show exactly what I said based on the original story - the controller feels a lot like the PS2 controller, and thus the reviewers in that story were dissapointed it had not changed more.
I figured I might as well folloup the article since you'd never see this story on Slashdot. I also feel it's important to note that original article was from IGN as well, just the UK branch.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Perhaps the next time you think you can simply make up words to describe a product instead of using what is in an article you will know better
An excerpt:
"It's still a little too light for my taste, especially because I have big hands and it barely felt like I was holding anything at times...ut the L2 and R2 buttons now have much better resistance to them, and the shell of the controller feels a bit more solid."
See? Light, plasticy - and solid. Pretty obvious for anyone reading the article, as I said before.
Another excerpt (from second page):
"I was initially surprised at how light the SIXAXIS is (surely due to the removal of dual shock), but I didn't think it made the controller feel "cheap." It really does feel like the same old PlayStation controller."
Which just goes to show exactly what I said based on the original story - the controller feels a lot like the PS2 controller, and thus the reviewers in that story were dissapointed it had not changed more.
I figured I might as well folloup the article since you'd never see this story on Slashdot. I also feel it's important to note that original article was from IGN as well, just the UK branch. Also people doing research in the future may be able to learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of others who failed to grasp what the article was saying.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Truns out perhaps some of those words were not as accurate as you thought.
An excerpt:
"It's still a little too light for my taste, especially because I have big hands and it barely felt like I was holding anything at times...ut the L2 and R2 buttons now have much better resistance to them, and the shell of the controller feels a bit more solid."
See? Light, plasticy - and solid. Pretty obvious for anyone reading the article, as I said before.
Another excerpt (from second page):
"I was initially surprised at how light the SIXAXIS is (surely due to the removal of dual shock), but I didn't think it made the controller feel "cheap." It really does feel like the same old PlayStation controller."
Which just goes to show exactly what I said based on the original story - the controller feels a lot like the PS2 controller, and thus the reviewers in that story were dissapointed it had not changed more.
I figured I might as well followup the article since you'd never see this story on Slashdot. I also feel it's important to note that original article was from IGN as well, just the UK branch.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Perhaps the next time youhave the urge to make up words to describe a product instead of using what is in an article you will know better
An excerpt:
"It's still a little too light for my taste, especially because I have big hands and it barely felt like I was holding anything at times...ut the L2 and R2 buttons now have much better resistance to them, and the shell of the controller feels a bit more solid."
See? Light, plasticy - and solid. Pretty obvious for anyone reading the article (or who has used a Lego brick), as I said before.
Another excerpt (from second page):
"I was initially surprised at how light the SIXAXIS is (surely due to the removal of dual shock), but I didn't think it made the controller feel "cheap." It really does feel like the same old PlayStation controller."
Which just goes to show exactly what I said based on the original story - the controller feels a lot like the PS2 controller, and thus the reviewers in that story were dissapointed it had not changed more.
I figured I might as well followup the article since you'd never see this story on Slashdot. I also feel it's important to note that original article was from IGN as well, just the UK branch.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley