hopefully i won't be the 20398340958th person to point this out by the time i post, but:
DUPE!
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/28/ 1738239&tid=141&tid=3
Geez, and only 48 hours too.
I looked at the two linked screenshots of old vs new. Without a side by side comparison, i can't really tell the difference. Can anyone point out what the major differences are? Does it just look different, or is there new functionality.
It saddens me to think the announcement of the change was big enough to hit the slashdot front page.
It saddens me more to see they are only as original as Windows (which is only as original as Apple, ad infinitum). Doesn't anyone do innovative UI research? (Longhorn doesn't count. It's not functionally different, just prettier).
My first thought at the announcement was 'who cares'? It's too little, too late. Microsoft discounted firefox when it appeared, let it get to 1.0, then they realized they might have a problem.
From my perspective, they have given Firefox a huge head start, and, since they can't outcompete them on a cost standpoint (hey, Firefox is free too!), they will have to rely on superior coding (maybe), or hope that most new computer users will simply use whatever comes installed as long as it doesn't suck too hard.
Consider, though, that almost everyone I know either uses Firefox now or avoids windows altogether. Heck, Firefox is even the default browser on the public computers on the UC Berkeley campus these days. I work there - I know how notoriously slow the PC techs are to change anything.
IE7, great. Microsoft will probably integrate it more tightly into the OS. In the meantime, the Mozilla foundation has at least 4 more months to get even better. Lets hope they build an even stronger lead.
I was a long time IE user- I remember downloading all of the IE4 betas and admiring the technology. But, I know who i'll be rooting for in this one.
It's a good article, but doesn't quite cover all of my concern, of which I have two:
First, how will HD video come down an internet pipe at a tolerable time. It would take an hour on my connection to download a full movie, and I live in a well-wired part of the country.
Second, the default mini has only a 40GB HDD. That's what, like 5 movies after you subtract space for OS X?
Apple's business model isn't built on driving up the highest market share possible. If they wanted to do that, they would have switched to x86 long ago.
They aren't trying to sell the most computer at the lowest price- they are trying to sell the best computers at a reasonable price.
I use a Mac, so don't take me as a MS Fanboy, but:
WindowsXP has a built in speech engine. It doesn't need training to understand commands, but you do have to train it to do dictation. I assume any program can use the API, but I only know of one set of programs that do: MS Office.
Dashboard is almost a direct rip off of a third party app, but I forget what it's called.
Desktop search was supposed to be part of WinFS, which MS announced about a year ago. You can't call apple the innovator here, just the fastest-to-market.
I think the true advatages of going with Apple are:
-that OSX gets faster with each version, *on the same hardware*. Think Longhorn will run faster than XP on my P3 machine?
-expose. It works just like you'd expect it to. It's faster to pick out a safari window on a collage of thumbnailed windows than it is from a vertical text list of the window titles (a la XP).
-the.app packaging format. The icon is the entire app. Just drag it to the trash to uninstall it. No registry fragments left behind.
-ability to run as unprivledged. If i need to change a system setting, it will automatically prompt for the admin password. I can also use su and sudo when I need to. (Linux has this too)
-the BSD underbelly. I can use the great GUI to do what I need with a few clicks, but there are some things i just can't do without a terminal. Having rsync, ssh, sftp, cron, etc available to me is great. Unlike Linux, I don't feel like I have to use the terminal unless I want to.
Actually, IIRC, the new calculators are using ARM processors running in some sort of emulation layer that tuned the CPU all the way down to 12MHZ so it would match the old calculators. The tool simply removes that restriction, if I understand right.
Unfortunately, I have no way of contacting you directly, so my best bet is to post this here and hope you come back to read replies to your posts.
While Trillian may not be designed for the power-user, I think you have create a product that does appeal to us. For starters, I can run Trillian and use much less RAM than I would running MSN, Yahoo, AIM, and ICQ simultaniously. Metacontacts are a divine gift to me when dealing with my 'i have 10 screen names so I'm better than you' friends.
I also have a hard time believing that you are designing exclusively for the average user when you provide an expandable framework for designing plug-ins. Yes, you did redesign the interface. No, I don't like it. Yes, I see the point and help it might provide to a noob, but I still liked the old menu best.
When you hear us clamoring for an OSX or Linux version it's not so much that we want Trillian on PowerPC. Rather, we believe that Cerulean could make the best all-in-one IM client for those platforms. Personally, while I admire Gaim's OSS development, I think its windows version sucks compared to Trillian. (I have no choice on my Linux machines).
I agree, porting trillian to another platform would be difficult and not worth the effort. So start anew. Trillian 3.0 is out. Wind down developement and start something else.
Until you do, I won't be talking to my MSN or Yahoo friends. Heck, I won't even have an AIM profile thanks to iChat.
Too bad I can't mod you up, because I just had to reply instead.
I go to UCB and often hear us brag about how we have the second largest 'public' collection in the nation (or is it world?), after the Library of Congress (Harvard is bigger, but is privately owned).
It makes me quite sad that is our policy if what you say is true. Donations to the library are down, funding is short, and access to many journals has been cut. Digitizing books would save money and resources, and benefit everyone.
Public Universities exist for public good, not for state profit. Heck, it's hard to get into the library without a UC-issued ID, and even then you can't take anything out of the library. Now, just how many out of the 15 millions of books can one student body actually use at one time?
You are an upper middle class white guy who lives in the suburbs far from any sort of diversity? (maybe there is a upper-middle class 'minority' somewhere in your neighborhood').
I used to live right in the middle of Minneapolis. I heard first hand accounts of voter intimidation.
And how would you know if you privacy had been invaded? The best invasions are the ones that go undetected.
Why is this news, again?
Every MMoRPG has a few cheaters, who get caught and banned. It's like reporting that a 14 year old kid was caught stealing candy at the local corner store and was grounded for it. Whee...
It would be news if Blizzard said 'we marvel at the intelligence of these cheaters. We consider them magical beings and will do all we can to accomodate them'
among common substances, water is perhaps the weirdest. Here is why:
-the solid is less dense than the liquid (ice floats). This is key for life, as otherwise lakes would freeze from the bottom up and freeze solid. The ice that forms on top now acts as an insulator.
-there are 12 known varieties of ice, depending on pressure and temperature conditiions. Not all of them have a hexagonal crystal strucuture.
-for it's size, water boils at a very high temperature. This is due to the organization of the liquid into hexagonal rings of 6 molecules, preventing any from evaporating.
-it's one of the few common substances that we see in all 3 phases. (i.e. you don't see solid vodka around, nor gaseous iron, etc)
-it's the best known solvent in existance (i.e. it dissolves the most stuff).
The list goes on and on. Water is actually fairly miraculous.
The easiest way is to download something like IESPYAD which puts a whole bunch of domains into the restricted sites zone in IE. Just open the data file and start browsing. You can download it here:
Another alternative is one of the many HOSTS files out there. Unfortunately, many of those also contain sites that serve ads, so you'll have to filter them yourself. Here are a few:
Right now Internet2 is primarily a research network, and I think it should stay that way. It's useful for shuttling (large amounts of) research data back and forth, as well as examining new router/switching/etc technology. (No coincendence that many of the speed records are set on Internet2).
What it doesn't need is the massive commericalization that has occured on good oi' internet 1. Yes, piracy and filesharing that is unmonitored is definately a problem. But the real problem is not that it's unmonitored, it's that students with no need for access to the network have it. Why can Joe DormLiver piggy back on Internet2? Does he need research access?
They should politely tell the MPAA to fuck itself, and then develop some controlled access. I suggest only connecting research computers to the net, along with a few proxy servers so professors and grad students (and undergrads also doing research) can still use it remotely.
It would be interesting to do bonafide p2p and network research over Internet2, but that is not what the MPAA is looking for.
In today's news he says he is going to be updating the site in realtime tomorrow. (If the link is down, add a 2, 3, 4, etc to the end of the domain name for mirrors)
-Democratic forms get tossed in the trash, but not Republican forms... -It's Texas Republicans who are Gerrymandering in their redistricting efforts... -Sinclair wishes to put an obviously anti Kerry Docuganda on TV... -Flordia 2000 -- Black voters are disenfranchised by the thousands. Guess which way they lean?
Try as I might, I can only think of one example of such behavior from Democrats: Micheal Moore. However, Sinclair's decision eclipses Fahrenheit because Sony didn't tell all of it's theaters to pre-empt I,Robot to show Fahrenheit.
Now, I'm willing to concede I'm biased and that I just don't notice the deciept and trickery the left puts on. Can anyone reply to my post with a corresponding list of things Dems have done?
(No, rhetoric doesn't count- *every* candidate is full of hyperbolic BS)
On one of the linked pages here, one of the editors compares the Zelda series to the Final Fantasy series. (From a pro-Zelda footing).
In one of the paragraphs he says (speaking of zelda) "but when a videogame manages to hit both the mark of delivering a fantastic experience and spring up the nostalgia factor at the same time, by maintaining that great charm and story we know so well, with past, rejuvenated characters".
I think he just hit upon the main appeal of Zelda- while you have several different stories, it's almost like playing in a series of linked (no pun intended) universes. Personally, the SNES was as good as it gets for me. When I was playing WindWaker on my roommate's game cube and [spoiler alert!] The ship decended into the underwater castle I immediately started jumping up and down saying "Holy Shit! It's the Palace from A Link to the Past" and then I started looking at the topography of the world, and noticed subtle similarities between it's geography and that of the SNES game that only someone who had played both in great depth would notice, and had such respect for the game's designer.
It doesn't just happen once. I was playing Four Swords recently (which also takes place in a world very similar to the SNES version) and, after being locked in a jail cell, thought "Great, 8 years of video games and I'm back in the same @$(%*&$#(*%'ing jail cell again." It was awesome.
Later though, he remarks about Final Fantasy: "Chances are more people from way back when would recognize Link in a heart-beat, whereas Square simply hasn't given any of their FF characters the opportunity to really be remembered oh so many years later--much less decades.".
On that point I disagree. I never had a sense that Link had a real personality, or had real emotions. Yes, he was gasping when Zelda was captured, and got mean faced when looking at Ganon, but he never seemed to have any dimension to him. Contrast that to Final Fantasy 3 (VI in Japan). Even now, 8 years or so after the game first came out and I beat it, I still remember the emotional response the game provoked as it described the story of Terra (the half magical Esper/half human) and her quest to feel love. Remarkably, that's not the only complete story in the game. Almost every playable character has a back story and you get emotionally linked to each. How many of you were soo goddamn pissed you couldn't keep General Leo from dying, no matter how hard you tried. The man was the only sane and compassionate person in the entire empire- it was just injust for him to be slain! Or what about the story of Shadow, the mysterious Ninja who you never know much about. I remember being so curious who he was and what in his life made him so solitary- he was the most callous yet most self-sacrificing of any of the characters.
I don't know- It's interesting to see just how much a video game- a virtual world - can affect you,even so many years later.
Not if the jobs available are highly skilled and require additional experience beyond a simple college degree. There would be a low supply of grads able to do the work, simulataniously raising salarys while excluding a large portion of recent degree earners, which is what i was alluding to in my post.
The numbers look great on a cursory glance, but they are missing one thing important: They don't list what percentage of graduates were able to find a job within x months of graduation.
So sure, maybe the ones that were hired are making more, but if they are only hiring a small percentage of grads, you'd expect them to make more, wouldn't you? (As they would be more qualified than the average grad)
The devil is in the details here. First, of the 168 million cell phones, how many of those are owned by people who have no landline? And of those, how many are likely to vote?
Using my unscientific survey (i.e. my life as a college student) about 40% of 18-22 year olds don't have a cell phone. I would estimate that segment of the population to own maybe ~35% of the cell phones. In the last election we voted at about 36%. Thus,.4*.35*.36*168 million is about 8 million votes that aren't included in the poll. Of those (at the very most). I bet it's 60/40 Kerry/Bush. I don't think it's really large enough to cause a dramatic turnaround in the election, but it is big enough to increase the margin of error in the polls.
On a side note: does anyone know if they survey all of the likely voters in a household, or just the person who answers? (I've never been polled)
This is at least the second time google has done this. The first was on a billboard along US 101 in Silicon valley./. may have covered it then, but I can't find the article so here is one from news.com (note that the caption to the picture if you read the NPR article also references the same billboard.)
Slashdot Mirror
the next upgrade will be the BFJeeves9000 that will answer any question asked by anyone in your line of sight with only a trigger pull.
hopefully i won't be the 20398340958th person to point this out by the time i post, but: DUPE! http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/28/ 1738239&tid=141&tid=3
Geez, and only 48 hours too.
I looked at the two linked screenshots of old vs new. Without a side by side comparison, i can't really tell the difference. Can anyone point out what the major differences are? Does it just look different, or is there new functionality.
It saddens me to think the announcement of the change was big enough to hit the slashdot front page.
It saddens me more to see they are only as original as Windows (which is only as original as Apple, ad infinitum). Doesn't anyone do innovative UI research? (Longhorn doesn't count. It's not functionally different, just prettier).
My first thought at the announcement was 'who cares'? It's too little, too late. Microsoft discounted firefox when it appeared, let it get to 1.0, then they realized they might have a problem.
From my perspective, they have given Firefox a huge head start, and, since they can't outcompete them on a cost standpoint (hey, Firefox is free too!), they will have to rely on superior coding (maybe), or hope that most new computer users will simply use whatever comes installed as long as it doesn't suck too hard.
Consider, though, that almost everyone I know either uses Firefox now or avoids windows altogether. Heck, Firefox is even the default browser on the public computers on the UC Berkeley campus these days. I work there - I know how notoriously slow the PC techs are to change anything.
IE7, great. Microsoft will probably integrate it more tightly into the OS. In the meantime, the Mozilla foundation has at least 4 more months to get even better. Lets hope they build an even stronger lead.
I was a long time IE user- I remember downloading all of the IE4 betas and admiring the technology. But, I know who i'll be rooting for in this one.
It's a good article, but doesn't quite cover all of my concern, of which I have two:
First, how will HD video come down an internet pipe at a tolerable time. It would take an hour on my connection to download a full movie, and I live in a well-wired part of the country.
Second, the default mini has only a 40GB HDD. That's what, like 5 movies after you subtract space for OS X?
what?
is this a joke, or did you reverse your 's? Either way, you just made Linux much easier to crack than glass...
You just don't get the point do you?
Apple's business model isn't built on driving up the highest market share possible. If they wanted to do that, they would have switched to x86 long ago.
They aren't trying to sell the most computer at the lowest price- they are trying to sell the best computers at a reasonable price.
I use a Mac, so don't take me as a MS Fanboy, but:
.app packaging format. The icon is the entire app. Just drag it to the trash to uninstall it. No registry fragments left behind.
WindowsXP has a built in speech engine. It doesn't need training to understand commands, but you do have to train it to do dictation. I assume any program can use the API, but I only know of one set of programs that do: MS Office.
Dashboard is almost a direct rip off of a third party app, but I forget what it's called.
Desktop search was supposed to be part of WinFS, which MS announced about a year ago. You can't call apple the innovator here, just the fastest-to-market.
I think the true advatages of going with Apple are:
-that OSX gets faster with each version, *on the same hardware*. Think Longhorn will run faster than XP on my P3 machine?
-expose. It works just like you'd expect it to. It's faster to pick out a safari window on a collage of thumbnailed windows than it is from a vertical text list of the window titles (a la XP).
-the
-ability to run as unprivledged. If i need to change a system setting, it will automatically prompt for the admin password. I can also use su and sudo when I need to. (Linux has this too)
-the BSD underbelly. I can use the great GUI to do what I need with a few clicks, but there are some things i just can't do without a terminal. Having rsync, ssh, sftp, cron, etc available to me is great. Unlike Linux, I don't feel like I have to use the terminal unless I want to.
Actually, IIRC, the new calculators are using ARM processors running in some sort of emulation layer that tuned the CPU all the way down to 12MHZ so it would match the old calculators. The tool simply removes that restriction, if I understand right.
Unfortunately, I have no way of contacting you directly, so my best bet is to post this here and hope you come back to read replies to your posts.
While Trillian may not be designed for the power-user, I think you have create a product that does appeal to us. For starters, I can run Trillian and use much less RAM than I would running MSN, Yahoo, AIM, and ICQ simultaniously. Metacontacts are a divine gift to me when dealing with my 'i have 10 screen names so I'm better than you' friends.
I also have a hard time believing that you are designing exclusively for the average user when you provide an expandable framework for designing plug-ins. Yes, you did redesign the interface. No, I don't like it. Yes, I see the point and help it might provide to a noob, but I still liked the old menu best.
When you hear us clamoring for an OSX or Linux version it's not so much that we want Trillian on PowerPC. Rather, we believe that Cerulean could make the best all-in-one IM client for those platforms. Personally, while I admire Gaim's OSS development, I think its windows version sucks compared to Trillian. (I have no choice on my Linux machines).
I agree, porting trillian to another platform would be difficult and not worth the effort. So start anew. Trillian 3.0 is out. Wind down developement and start something else.
Until you do, I won't be talking to my MSN or Yahoo friends. Heck, I won't even have an AIM profile thanks to iChat.
Too bad I can't mod you up, because I just had to reply instead. I go to UCB and often hear us brag about how we have the second largest 'public' collection in the nation (or is it world?), after the Library of Congress (Harvard is bigger, but is privately owned). It makes me quite sad that is our policy if what you say is true. Donations to the library are down, funding is short, and access to many journals has been cut. Digitizing books would save money and resources, and benefit everyone. Public Universities exist for public good, not for state profit. Heck, it's hard to get into the library without a UC-issued ID, and even then you can't take anything out of the library. Now, just how many out of the 15 millions of books can one student body actually use at one time?
Let me guess...
You are an upper middle class white guy who lives in the suburbs far from any sort of diversity? (maybe there is a upper-middle class 'minority' somewhere in your neighborhood').
I used to live right in the middle of Minneapolis. I heard first hand accounts of voter intimidation.
And how would you know if you privacy had been invaded? The best invasions are the ones that go undetected.
Why is this news, again? Every MMoRPG has a few cheaters, who get caught and banned. It's like reporting that a 14 year old kid was caught stealing candy at the local corner store and was grounded for it. Whee... It would be news if Blizzard said 'we marvel at the intelligence of these cheaters. We consider them magical beings and will do all we can to accomodate them'
FWIW, it worked great on my G5. The rest of the guys in the DSLR MUG haven't had any problem either()
I, of course, cannot vouch for your sucess or failure, but no problems yet!
among common substances, water is perhaps the weirdest. Here is why:
-the solid is less dense than the liquid (ice floats). This is key for life, as otherwise lakes would freeze from the bottom up and freeze solid. The ice that forms on top now acts as an insulator.
-there are 12 known varieties of ice, depending on pressure and temperature conditiions. Not all of them have a hexagonal crystal strucuture.
-for it's size, water boils at a very high temperature. This is due to the organization of the liquid into hexagonal rings of 6 molecules, preventing any from evaporating.
-it's one of the few common substances that we see in all 3 phases. (i.e. you don't see solid vodka around, nor gaseous iron, etc)
-it's the best known solvent in existance (i.e. it dissolves the most stuff).
The list goes on and on. Water is actually fairly miraculous.
The easiest way is to download something like IESPYAD which puts a whole bunch of domains into the restricted sites zone in IE. Just open the data file and start browsing. You can download it here:
# IESPYAD
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
Another alternative is one of the many HOSTS files out there. Unfortunately, many of those also contain sites that serve ads, so you'll have to filter them yourself. Here are a few:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
http://www.dozleng.com/hpguru/
Right now Internet2 is primarily a research network, and I think it should stay that way. It's useful for shuttling (large amounts of) research data back and forth, as well as examining new router/switching/etc technology. (No coincendence that many of the speed records are set on Internet2).
What it doesn't need is the massive commericalization that has occured on good oi' internet 1. Yes, piracy and filesharing that is unmonitored is definately a problem. But the real problem is not that it's unmonitored, it's that students with no need for access to the network have it. Why can Joe DormLiver piggy back on Internet2? Does he need research access?
They should politely tell the MPAA to fuck itself, and then develop some controlled access. I suggest only connecting research computers to the net, along with a few proxy servers so professors and grad students (and undergrads also doing research) can still use it remotely.
It would be interesting to do bonafide p2p and network research over Internet2, but that is not what the MPAA is looking for.
actually, you should have said:
for all the shit they've been through, NASA still fucking rockets (insert cymbal crash)
Thank you, thank you- i'll be here all week!
as mentioned in an earlier /. article today: electoral-vote.com
In today's news he says he is going to be updating the site in realtime tomorrow. (If the link is down, add a 2, 3, 4, etc to the end of the domain name for mirrors)
(Disclaimer: I lean left)
-Democratic forms get tossed in the trash, but not Republican forms...
-It's Texas Republicans who are Gerrymandering in their redistricting efforts...
-Sinclair wishes to put an obviously anti Kerry Docuganda on TV...
-Flordia 2000 -- Black voters are disenfranchised by the thousands. Guess which way they lean?
Try as I might, I can only think of one example of such behavior from Democrats: Micheal Moore. However, Sinclair's decision eclipses Fahrenheit because Sony didn't tell all of it's theaters to pre-empt I,Robot to show Fahrenheit.
Now, I'm willing to concede I'm biased and that I just don't notice the deciept and trickery the left puts on. Can anyone reply to my post with a corresponding list of things Dems have done?
(No, rhetoric doesn't count- *every* candidate is full of hyperbolic BS)
On one of the linked pages here, one of the editors compares the Zelda series to the Final Fantasy series. (From a pro-Zelda footing).
In one of the paragraphs he says (speaking of zelda) "but when a videogame manages to hit both the mark of delivering a fantastic experience and spring up the nostalgia factor at the same time, by maintaining that great charm and story we know so well, with past, rejuvenated characters".
I think he just hit upon the main appeal of Zelda- while you have several different stories, it's almost like playing in a series of linked (no pun intended) universes. Personally, the SNES was as good as it gets for me. When I was playing WindWaker on my roommate's game cube and [spoiler alert!] The ship decended into the underwater castle I immediately started jumping up and down saying "Holy Shit! It's the Palace from A Link to the Past" and then I started looking at the topography of the world, and noticed subtle similarities between it's geography and that of the SNES game that only someone who had played both in great depth would notice, and had such respect for the game's designer.
It doesn't just happen once. I was playing Four Swords recently (which also takes place in a world very similar to the SNES version) and, after being locked in a jail cell, thought "Great, 8 years of video games and I'm back in the same @$(%*&$#(*%'ing jail cell again." It was awesome.
Later though, he remarks about Final Fantasy: "Chances are more people from way back when would recognize Link in a heart-beat, whereas Square simply hasn't given any of their FF characters the opportunity to really be remembered oh so many years later--much less decades.".
On that point I disagree. I never had a sense that Link had a real personality, or had real emotions. Yes, he was gasping when Zelda was captured, and got mean faced when looking at Ganon, but he never seemed to have any dimension to him. Contrast that to Final Fantasy 3 (VI in Japan). Even now, 8 years or so after the game first came out and I beat it, I still remember the emotional response the game provoked as it described the story of Terra (the half magical Esper/half human) and her quest to feel love. Remarkably, that's not the only complete story in the game. Almost every playable character has a back story and you get emotionally linked to each. How many of you were soo goddamn pissed you couldn't keep General Leo from dying, no matter how hard you tried. The man was the only sane and compassionate person in the entire empire- it was just injust for him to be slain! Or what about the story of Shadow, the mysterious Ninja who you never know much about. I remember being so curious who he was and what in his life made him so solitary- he was the most callous yet most self-sacrificing of any of the characters.
I don't know- It's interesting to see just how much a video game- a virtual world - can affect you,even so many years later.
Just a few thoughts from this wandering mind...
Not if the jobs available are highly skilled and require additional experience beyond a simple college degree. There would be a low supply of grads able to do the work, simulataniously raising salarys while excluding a large portion of recent degree earners, which is what i was alluding to in my post.
The numbers look great on a cursory glance, but they are missing one thing important: They don't list what percentage of graduates were able to find a job within x months of graduation.
So sure, maybe the ones that were hired are making more, but if they are only hiring a small percentage of grads, you'd expect them to make more, wouldn't you? (As they would be more qualified than the average grad)
The devil is in the details here. First, of the 168 million cell phones, how many of those are owned by people who have no landline? And of those, how many are likely to vote?
.4*.35*.36*168 million is about 8 million votes that aren't included in the poll. Of those (at the very most). I bet it's 60/40 Kerry/Bush. I don't think it's really large enough to cause a dramatic turnaround in the election, but it is big enough to increase the margin of error in the polls.
Using my unscientific survey (i.e. my life as a college student) about 40% of 18-22 year olds don't have a cell phone. I would estimate that segment of the population to own maybe ~35% of the cell phones. In the last election we voted at about 36%. Thus,
On a side note: does anyone know if they survey all of the likely voters in a household, or just the person who answers? (I've never been polled)
This is at least the second time google has done this. The first was on a billboard along US 101 in Silicon valley. /. may have covered it then, but I can't find the article so here is one from news.com (note that the caption to the picture if you read the NPR article also references the same billboard.)