The Linux vendors shouting the loudest are the ones with advertising budgets, hence they are there to make a buck. Redhat, Suse, etc... are there to make money. If you want the true benefit of using open source, you will need to do a bit of work and research. Linux distrobutions like Debian (among many others) are completely free and being used on servers and desktops alike around the world. So seek out distributions who have a policy of forever being free and not the bait-and-switch kind. Support, however, you will rarely find it fast and free. You might find free, via web forums and the like, but not fast and dependable. For fast, dependable support for your Linux systems, you will need to pay someone, just like in the MS-Windows world.
My wife is a school teach and she has tried for a long time to introduce open source and Linux solutions into the system, with only minor success. People have no problem using the open software, but they continue to have small compatibility issues that keep them falling back to Microsoft. Also, people say that the school needs to teach what is used in the "real world". Yes, windows may be a major part of the real world, but teach kids how to use Linux and the spirit of open source and the "real world" will eventually change. Besides, if you know Linux, you probably will have absolutely no problem occasionally having to use Windows... in fact, they'll probably feel frustrated by the lack of control in Windows.
Schools are always griping about how they are underfunded, well maybe if you didn't spend tens of thousands JUST on MS-Office site licenses alone, never mind Windows OS, you could be saving a bundle!
The schools are run by the boards of education, so the people in charge there need to hear and understand the open source message. Stop grovelling at the feet of Microsoft already!
that the day will come when Windows is the obscure and unused operating system, much like Linux was about 10 years ago. The days of Windows dominance is slowly but surely coming to an end my friends.
I want to know if updating via a little icon in the top right corner will now be working for Linux? I find that feature handy on my Windoze machines, but miss it on my Linux boxen.
I remember a while back MSNBC just gave me a big blank gray screen on the frontpage! Seems to be working these days though.
One big site that still doesn't work with Forefox/Linux is http://www.abcnews.go.com/
The frontpage comes up fine, but try going to any of the sections (from the left side menu). Everything under the section headings comes up blank!
These huge companies can't afford web-developers that can make cross-platform/cross-browser web code? I mean, WTF?! Pathetic.
By reading other canadian web developers posting here, I am a bit relieved that I'm not the only one getting extremely crappy pay. If it weren't for the fact that I love working with computers, I would have quit the IT field long ago. But what else can a 30-something web developer do in life? I have no other skills other than IT skills.
I am also a programmer doing web apps in southern ontario and my salary has been going down. What gives? Gee, I've only been doing this shit since 1996, maybe I need more experience to get the big bucks. The most I've ever made was $40K. Am I bitter? Hell yes. I've thought about changing careers many times but there is nothing I enjoy more than working with computers. Besides, being close to my mid 30's, there isn't much time to start moving around in the career market. Life sucks.
I was working for a small company in southern ontario, making medium sized web applications.. and I was getting around $40K (canadian dollars!)... I am currently getting only about half of that. Yeah, the economy has gone in the crapper looking from a web developer perspective.
Open Source developers will quickly switch to PostgreSQL! Not because MySQL software changed, but because of the company it keeps and the philosophy change. When all the popular free PHP web apps out there are using PostgreSQL, why will business keep using MySQL? They won't! Just look at what happened to Xfree86! The Open Source guys switched to Xorg in a moment. ALL the business Linux distro's followed.
That can't and won't happen (making it illegel to outsource). As long as north america has a strong capitalist force which everyone embraces, it will continue to be fine to outsource. What will happen is that eventually it will level out all around the world. The global economy will make everybody poor. Except the rich who run the corporations, they will get richer. The gap between rich and poor will widen significantly. What will happen then? Maybe a revolution.
That show really drove me nuts. Stupid people calling in asking stupid questions. The few segments of it that I have watched reminded me of being a tech support for an ISP years ago. I really don't want to watch that at home on my couch... so WHO did watch that show?
I find that I can browse the movie categories at bittorrent sites for hours looking for something decent to download... and guess what... there is nothing! I've seen all I want to see and all the new stuff just seems like it will be crap so I don't even bother.
Google makes quality web services for it's users and doesn't charge you. They still have a "do no evil" policy as far as I know.
Microsoft, on the other hand, makes shitty OS products and browser that locks you in hard. All competition, free or otherwise, is attacked with great but subtle vigor.
Microsoft vs. Google as evil? Microsoft wins hands down!
Well, you've got me on the games... although I do play UT2004, Doom3 and Sims. The 80's shareware remark though seems a little ignorant. I guess you haven't looked at projects like OpenOffice, Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird, The Gimp, Blender, Inkscape, Xine, etc...
As a Linux user I feel left out of all the seemingly weekly worm fun... I mean, my chosen OS has some of the best hacker (both good and evil) minds behind it and tons of techie users... yet we have no fun worms. Sure, an unsecured and non-updated Linux server box will end up getting hacked into by the script kiddies here and there... but what about us desktop users?
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The Linux vendors shouting the loudest are the ones with advertising budgets, hence they are there to make a buck. Redhat, Suse, etc... are there to make money. If you want the true benefit of using open source, you will need to do a bit of work and research. Linux distrobutions like Debian (among many others) are completely free and being used on servers and desktops alike around the world. So seek out distributions who have a policy of forever being free and not the bait-and-switch kind. Support, however, you will rarely find it fast and free. You might find free, via web forums and the like, but not fast and dependable. For fast, dependable support for your Linux systems, you will need to pay someone, just like in the MS-Windows world.
I'm still trying to figure out the "and tags" part.
Go ahead and laugh. The Internet will probably archive my post for all of eternity. We'll see who's right eventually, and who will get the last laugh.
Schools are always griping about how they are underfunded, well maybe if you didn't spend tens of thousands JUST on MS-Office site licenses alone, never mind Windows OS, you could be saving a bundle!
The schools are run by the boards of education, so the people in charge there need to hear and understand the open source message. Stop grovelling at the feet of Microsoft already!
I for one say good riddance.
Switch to Linux
I want to know if updating via a little icon in the top right corner will now be working for Linux? I find that feature handy on my Windoze machines, but miss it on my Linux boxen.
One big site that still doesn't work with Forefox/Linux is http://www.abcnews.go.com/ The frontpage comes up fine, but try going to any of the sections (from the left side menu). Everything under the section headings comes up blank!
These huge companies can't afford web-developers that can make cross-platform/cross-browser web code? I mean, WTF?! Pathetic.
except that most programmers today are developing web apps. Web developer (java,php,perl,sql) != web designer (html,flash)
By reading other canadian web developers posting here, I am a bit relieved that I'm not the only one getting extremely crappy pay. If it weren't for the fact that I love working with computers, I would have quit the IT field long ago. But what else can a 30-something web developer do in life? I have no other skills other than IT skills.
I am also a programmer doing web apps in southern ontario and my salary has been going down. What gives? Gee, I've only been doing this shit since 1996, maybe I need more experience to get the big bucks. The most I've ever made was $40K. Am I bitter? Hell yes. I've thought about changing careers many times but there is nothing I enjoy more than working with computers. Besides, being close to my mid 30's, there isn't much time to start moving around in the career market. Life sucks.
I was working for a small company in southern ontario, making medium sized web applications.. and I was getting around $40K (canadian dollars!)... I am currently getting only about half of that. Yeah, the economy has gone in the crapper looking from a web developer perspective.
Open Source developers will quickly switch to PostgreSQL! Not because MySQL software changed, but because of the company it keeps and the philosophy change. When all the popular free PHP web apps out there are using PostgreSQL, why will business keep using MySQL? They won't! Just look at what happened to Xfree86! The Open Source guys switched to Xorg in a moment. ALL the business Linux distro's followed.
Dumb dumb dumb on the part of MySQL. Ah well, need to start changing all my projects to PostgreSQL. I'm sure the open source community will to.
Just switch to the superior PostgreSQL.
That can't and won't happen (making it illegel to outsource). As long as north america has a strong capitalist force which everyone embraces, it will continue to be fine to outsource. What will happen is that eventually it will level out all around the world. The global economy will make everybody poor. Except the rich who run the corporations, they will get richer. The gap between rich and poor will widen significantly. What will happen then? Maybe a revolution.
That show really drove me nuts. Stupid people calling in asking stupid questions. The few segments of it that I have watched reminded me of being a tech support for an ISP years ago. I really don't want to watch that at home on my couch... so WHO did watch that show?
I find that I can browse the movie categories at bittorrent sites for hours looking for something decent to download... and guess what... there is nothing! I've seen all I want to see and all the new stuff just seems like it will be crap so I don't even bother.
Sperm and fecal matter in my hair and not a care in the world.
Microsoft, on the other hand, makes shitty OS products and browser that locks you in hard. All competition, free or otherwise, is attacked with great but subtle vigor.
Microsoft vs. Google as evil? Microsoft wins hands down!
Well, you've got me on the games... although I do play UT2004, Doom3 and Sims. The 80's shareware remark though seems a little ignorant. I guess you haven't looked at projects like OpenOffice, Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird, The Gimp, Blender, Inkscape, Xine, etc...
Actually, yes, I setup and administrated slackware servers for an ISP in 1995 and 1996. What's your point?
That's just yesterdays news. You gotta get with the times man.
As a Linux user I feel left out of all the seemingly weekly worm fun... I mean, my chosen OS has some of the best hacker (both good and evil) minds behind it and tons of techie users... yet we have no fun worms. Sure, an unsecured and non-updated Linux server box will end up getting hacked into by the script kiddies here and there... but what about us desktop users?
Thanks captain obvious!