Re:Theo's just being an asshole - once more
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If Sun made it policy that it required an NDA to get Sparc 3 Theo would go away. That makes Sparc 3 a closed architecture.
Aaaaargh! Stop it!:-) Sparc != UltraSPARC-III. SPARC is an open architecture. UltraSPARC-III is a proprietary, closed chip. What is difficult about that? TCP/IP is an open protocol, OpenBSD implements it in an open way, and MS does so in a closed way. One closed implementation of an IEEE spec does *not* make that spec closed and proprietary.
"Myth: Sparc is a closed proprietry architecture..."
Interesting that you should quote this bit, but not the rest. SPARC is open. Anyone can build a sparc chip, and modify and customise the specs to suit their needs. Sun do that, and one of the chips they've made to suit their needs is called the UltraSPARC-III. Nothing is stopping you producing a WienerSPARC-IV and running *BSD on it. Nothing about SPARC is "viral" in the way that the GPL is - ie products derived from the specs do not have to be open in the way the initial specs are. This is Sun's case. It's fair - think of SPARC as a sort of BSD licenced hardware spec. You can take the spec and produce "free hardware" or you can take the specs and produce "proprietary hardware" - true freedom in the way the BSD licence views it. How is this out of line with Theo's policy? Are they requesting any closed source projects based on BSD code return the specs so they can make OpenBSD work better with it? No. Then why should they stamp their feet about closed hardware implementations based on an open standard?
"The Two Towers gets as near as possible to finding a title to cover the
widely divergent Books 3 & 4; and can be left ambiguous- it might refer to
Isengard and Barad-dur, or to Minas Tirith and B; or Isengard and Cirith Ungol
(1)." [Letter #140]
Taken from JRRT's letters. You will easily find many more references on google.
"I am not at all happy about the title `the Two Towers'. It must if there is
any real reference in it to Vol II refer to Orthanc and the Tower of Cirith
Ungol. But since there is so much made of the basic opposition of the Dark
Tower and Minas Tirith, that seems very misleading." [Letter #143]
IIRC "that book" wasn't 'a book' but 'two books', and wasn't called "The Two Towers" at all, until the publisher made JRRT make them into one. He searched for a title and came up with Two Towers, though apparently never gave real explanation as to which were the two towers in question. It is speculation (albeit educated specualtion) that came up with potential explanations of the towers. Google should come up with some stuff about this for those with a bit of time to wade through all the film related links!
With one notable difference - a router routes and a switch only switches.:-)
Seriously though, btw IANANG (Network Guy), a proper router will be capable of far more than a layer 3 switch will. A switch will only "see" what is directly connected to it, a router, once it does more than just route between a local network and "the rest of the world" is going to need a few clues not only about its own gateways, but also its gateway's gateways and so on.
I once read somewhere on the net "90% of all network problems are routing problems. Of the 10 remaining, 9 are routing problems, in the other direction and the other 1% are not routing related, but check the routing just in case." Says it all, really!:-)
UNIX? They're probably not even circumcised! Savages!
You're thinking of that Linux distro with a BSD style ports things aren't you? What's it called again, Gentle, Gentool - Gentile Linux!!! Thats right!:-)
I began to suspect that this country is simply to big and too heterongenous to be properly susceptible to terrorist attacks.
You aren't really suggesting that it wasn't and isn't susceptible, are you? Please...
I think you'd have to be a very big, very powerful, very secret organization, in order to impact enough Americans quickly enough to really strike terror in the heart of the nation. And as far as I know, the only very big, very powerful, very secret organization capable of doing this is already running the country.
Your naïvety is touching. Impact americans? Strike terror? Remember the Anthrax? You guys were doing it in your trousers at the thought of opening mail, and the rest of the world (well, the rest of the western world) was watching and thinking "Hope we're not next". Things like that have already happened, and I genuinely believe they will happen again, in the US and elsewhere. An the terrorists will find better ways of terrifying us more - you can bet on it. I think the reality is that the memory of the average american (and indeed a great number of people in the "western world") we hear so much about is just too short to remember how scared many of them were a year ago. Why is that? (I don't know, but I would hazard a guess that the constant bombarding by sensationalist news channels has an impact). From a terrorist viewpoint this just makes it easy because the next time somebody with a grudge gets their hands on a bag of anthrax and starts mailing out free samples, the nation will be just as surprised as it was last time.
I don't understand how proving there are places more crowded than London proves London isn't crowded. It is crowded, and the fact that Tokyo is even more so changes nothing. Just because there are dicks bigger than mine it doesn't mean I don't have a big dick.:-)
I don't know is this is a pratical possibility, but IIRC Linux 2.4.X can load balance a single network connection over several physical NICs - could this not be a "quick and dirty" for your problem? This could be a starting point..
Normally this wouldn't matter, if it were not for the fact that this whole thing was about running Maya. This akes your whole post (entitled, pretentiously, "Possibilities" - which was a shame since one of the three you mentioned was everything but a possibility...) It wasn't a UNIX box pissing contest. You could put what you wanted (OpenBSD, Linux, NetBSD) on the sparc box, but it won't run Maya.
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If Sun made it policy that it required an NDA to get Sparc 3 Theo would go away. That makes Sparc 3 a closed architecture.
:-) Sparc != UltraSPARC-III. SPARC is an open architecture. UltraSPARC-III is a proprietary, closed chip. What is difficult about that? TCP/IP is an open protocol, OpenBSD implements it in an open way, and MS does so in a closed way. One closed implementation of an IEEE spec does *not* make that spec closed and proprietary.
Aaaaargh! Stop it!
"Myth: Sparc is a closed proprietry architecture ..."
Interesting that you should quote this bit, but not the rest. SPARC is open. Anyone can build a sparc chip, and modify and customise the specs to suit their needs. Sun do that, and one of the chips they've made to suit their needs is called the UltraSPARC-III. Nothing is stopping you producing a WienerSPARC-IV and running *BSD on it. Nothing about SPARC is "viral" in the way that the GPL is - ie products derived from the specs do not have to be open in the way the initial specs are. This is Sun's case. It's fair - think of SPARC as a sort of BSD licenced hardware spec. You can take the spec and produce "free hardware" or you can take the specs and produce "proprietary hardware" - true freedom in the way the BSD licence views it. How is this out of line with Theo's policy? Are they requesting any closed source projects based on BSD code return the specs so they can make OpenBSD work better with it? No. Then why should they stamp their feet about closed hardware implementations based on an open standard?
A layman is someone who can get laid, and hence a "non-geek" :-)
Indeed, at the risk of watching my karma burn this does seem a little like:
1. Decide to write a book about...
2.???
3.Profit.
:-)
"The Two Towers gets as near as possible to finding a title to cover the widely divergent Books 3 & 4; and can be left ambiguous- it might refer to Isengard and Barad-dur, or to Minas Tirith and B; or Isengard and Cirith Ungol (1)." [Letter #140]
Taken from JRRT's letters. You will easily find many more references on google.
"I am not at all happy about the title `the Two Towers'. It must if there is any real reference in it to Vol II refer to Orthanc and the Tower of Cirith Ungol. But since there is so much made of the basic opposition of the Dark Tower and Minas Tirith, that seems very misleading." [Letter #143]
You see?
IIRC "that book" wasn't 'a book' but 'two books', and wasn't called "The Two Towers" at all, until the publisher made JRRT make them into one. He searched for a title and came up with Two Towers, though apparently never gave real explanation as to which were the two towers in question. It is speculation (albeit educated specualtion) that came up with potential explanations of the towers. Google should come up with some stuff about this for those with a bit of time to wade through all the film related links!
I have good relations with the principles of an accesibility testing firm and believe the businesses can compliment each other well.
:-)
--Mmm, my, your web site is nice!
--Why thank you, sir, I find your testing well up to scratch!
--Good news, though it is nothing compared to the quality of your output!
--Please, you flatter me - your reputation is well deserved in your specific domain, there's no hiding it!
Etc... Should lead to a healthy collaboration, though not necessarily terribly productive.
With one notable difference - a router routes and a switch only switches. :-)
:-)
Seriously though, btw IANANG (Network Guy), a proper router will be capable of far more than a layer 3 switch will. A switch will only "see" what is directly connected to it, a router, once it does more than just route between a local network and "the rest of the world" is going to need a few clues not only about its own gateways, but also its gateway's gateways and so on.
I once read somewhere on the net "90% of all network problems are routing problems. Of the 10 remaining, 9 are routing problems, in the other direction and the other 1% are not routing related, but check the routing just in case." Says it all, really!
I don't use it as a firewall, since I have a router
:-)
As in "I just use the scroll wheel, I don't use my mouse as a mouse because I have a keyboard?"
These people have it coming! :-)
Please provide link to free Solaris source download. ;-)
Good point on the maths - though you forgot the ~4 days a year you forget the backups, or forget to change the tapes. No tape libraries here :-)
I clicked on Submit when I was aiming for Preview
:-)
Guess your looking for a better mouse too, then
UNIX? They're probably not even circumcised! Savages!
:-)
You're thinking of that Linux distro with a BSD style ports things aren't you? What's it called again, Gentle, Gentool - Gentile Linux!!! Thats right!
I began to suspect that this country is simply to big and too heterongenous to be properly susceptible to terrorist attacks.
You aren't really suggesting that it wasn't and isn't susceptible, are you? Please...
I think you'd have to be a very big, very powerful, very secret organization, in order to impact enough Americans quickly enough to really strike terror in the heart of the nation. And as far as I know, the only very big, very powerful, very secret organization capable of doing this is already running the country.
Your naïvety is touching. Impact americans? Strike terror? Remember the Anthrax? You guys were doing it in your trousers at the thought of opening mail, and the rest of the world (well, the rest of the western world) was watching and thinking "Hope we're not next". Things like that have already happened, and I genuinely believe they will happen again, in the US and elsewhere. An the terrorists will find better ways of terrifying us more - you can bet on it. I think the reality is that the memory of the average american (and indeed a great number of people in the "western world") we hear so much about is just too short to remember how scared many of them were a year ago. Why is that? (I don't know, but I would hazard a guess that the constant bombarding by sensationalist news channels has an impact). From a terrorist viewpoint this just makes it easy because the next time somebody with a grudge gets their hands on a bag of anthrax and starts mailing out free samples, the nation will be just as surprised as it was last time.
It also had, IIRC, for no apparent reason, the handlebars underneath the "driver's" knees. I never did get that bit...
I don't understand how proving there are places more crowded than London proves London isn't crowded. It is crowded, and the fact that Tokyo is even more so changes nothing. Just because there are dicks bigger than mine it doesn't mean I don't have a big dick. :-)
lameness_filter=0
:-)
I thought AOL already imposed CAPS ON THEIR USERS
I don't know is this is a pratical possibility, but IIRC Linux 2.4.X can load balance a single network connection over several physical NICs - could this not be a "quick and dirty" for your problem? This could be a starting point..
Don't connect your computer to a phoneline/DSL/cable modem
:-)
Oh please don't try and convince me that wireless is more secure!
And guess what he cannot spell most of the words properly.
:-)
I think I've read some of his posts on Slashdot
What do swimming pools and women have in common?
They both cost an awful lot in upkeep for the time you spend in them.
So you had a three legged incontinent dog, big deal :-)
okay i didnt know maya didnt run on solaris.
Normally this wouldn't matter, if it were not for the fact that this whole thing was about running Maya. This akes your whole post (entitled, pretentiously, "Possibilities" - which was a shame since one of the three you mentioned was everything but a possibility...) It wasn't a UNIX box pissing contest. You could put what you wanted (OpenBSD, Linux, NetBSD) on the sparc box, but it won't run Maya.
off the bottom of Bill Gates' shoes? :-)