Gibson hasnt done anything good since "Mona Lisa Overdrive". IMO, he blew his load on the "Necromancer" series.
I read "Virtual Light" with the distinct impression that I had read it before. Than it occured to me: oh ya, this is a poor-man's version of "Snow Crash"!!!
I could just visualize Bill sitting down at his typewriter with all the notes he took after reading it. After reading that hijacked work, I pretty much lost all respect for him. His "X-Files" episodes were pretty good, though.
Yes. Well. This was exactly what I wanted to suggest.
Than maybe you should have... cough... bullshit... cough...
You still refuse to answer the question.
Answer what question? The fact that LDAP and ACLs dont make something a NOS? The fact that they dont help you run a network? The fact that you dont know what you are talking about? What question am I refusing to answer?
Take a class, get some experience, etc. Im not here to educate you on Networking 101.
In another thread you said that you weren't able to install two Linux distributions. No wonder that you didn't earn much. How's work at McDonalds?
I was able to install it. I couldnt get it to display any video on one computer, and it wouldnt install at on on the other.
Its not my fault Linux has a half-finished, shitty install routine. Honestly, I dont neither the time nor the inclination to work with this kind of junk.
Add that to the fact that Im not getting paid to be a Linux expert, and it prety much seals the deal. I earn quite a bit, thanks for your concern. But Linux experience isnt going to help me one bit, and just ends up being a huge waste of time (nobody in corporate America really gives a shit about Linux, to be blunt).
The cost of the last few months of Microsoft patch updates was about 30 minutes per PC
Cost of setting the Windows Update service: $0.00
It can also be enabled via AD policies (or even logon script), meaning you dont even have to pay for people to set this on each PC. So you are only paying your admin to do something which should take him at most 30 minutes, and probably a lot less.
Nice bullshit attempt, but like all bullshit around here, it just demonstrates how little you actually know.
The TCO impact of patching every machine is huge and I bet its not included in Microsoft's numbers.
In this case, thin clients rule!!! (even microsoft--actually citrix-- ones)
the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol and Access Control Lists? THATS your impression of what constitutes a NOS?
Try actually working working somewhere with more than five computers; look for examples outside your dorm room, kid. Try checking somewhere that uses NetWare (which I still consider to be the king of NOS's).
Besides, if you knew what the hell you were talking about (which you obviously dont), you would know that both NetWare and Active Directory already USE both ACLs and X.500 (LDAP). There is FAR more to being an NOS than either of those two components you mentioned. Thats like saying four wheels and an axel makes you a car.Please get a clue. This is just stupid. Ask a real admin.
your skills are weak. your stupid-fu is no match for my NOS-style.
Try working in a real-world IT department doing admin work. I could do admin work again, but I wouldnt want the pay cut.
Did the interviewer ask him why "The Difference Engine" sucked so bad?
On a positive note, they ended the series after the first book. Thats the same thing writers like L Ron Hubbard or Phillip Jose Farmer should have learned how to do.
How do you figure? Linux doesnt have a great many of the feature that Windows does, especially when it comes to user management and file security.
Try working somewhere that has a *real* network operating system (and uses it well), like Active Directory or Netware. Linux doesnt HAVE a NOS. A linux network is just a bunch of independent machines on the same IP subnet.
A network running hundreds of linux clients- thats a pretty scary thing from a network management standpoint.
Do they include the damage costs of viruses, worms and exploits? If the admin isnt a lazy asshole who doesnt patch his servers, and if the company isnt stupid enough to not use a firewall, and if the tech support is stupid enough to not have virus scanners installed on all the client machines, than yes, that is a cost of ownership.
In my experience, stupidity always costs more.
BTW, why isnt the press full of accounts on all the linux kernel exploits that seem to crop up?
Nevermind the fact that anyone with a few script kiddie tools can get administrator access on Win XP with a few clicky clicks, Prove it: because its not actaully true.
if they can physically gain access to the computer. This is what this linux bug entails.
Sigh. Once again, let me expain something to all you pseudo-expert security n00bs here: If somebody can get physical access to your computer, you have already lost. If I can gain physical access to a linux server, I could just unplug it and remove the hard drives. Wow, a security breach that only took me five minutes! Not only that, but my 'exploit' is platform independant, too. Since I have posted it here, I'll throw you a bone and make it an 'Open Source' exploit.
If you actually knew what you were talking about, you wouldnt have made that statement. So go take some security classes, kid, and you may want to take you head out of the sand while you are at it.
This is the first time you've ever heard about this linux vulnerability right....and wow it's fixed!
I wonder how long the exploit that r00ted Caldera was in the wild for? I would guess pretty long. But since you guys taut how supposedly secure Linux is over Windows, it must be kind of scary that there have been two KERNEL-LEVEL r00t exploits in as many months. Almost makes one want to take their head out of the sand and look at the REAL world!
Nah.
How about...you shut the fuck up!
How about you post with your real account instead of being a little pussy?
Likewise, Windows 95 was more stable than Win98. However, there were a lot of improvements made in Win98 which made it preferable to Win95 (good USB support being a major one). Nothing is perfect. Welcome to planet Earth.
Im not disagreeing with the reasoning for wanting to make sure there was proper troubleshooting. Im also not complaining about Dell's tech support- in fact, I overall have nothing bad to say about it, because all the bad experiences are understandable given the circumstances.
Also, from the somewhat few times I have had to do phone support, I know its pretty hard. Walking a non-tech through steps they dont understand isnt very fun or rewarding.
We had two Apex DVD players and two TVs. They all work perfectly, and the DVD players have more features than the high end models they were sitting on the shelf next to.
Just because you had a bad experience with a bad model doesnt make them a bad company. I have had bad stereo equipment from Sony, but that was my fault for not researching what I was going to purchase. That doesnt mean Sony (or Apex) is a bad company, just that sometimes its easy for a corporation to put out a bad model.
The reason people dont do it is because its easier to complain and criticize others (Microsoft, Intel, Dell, whoever) than it is to put your ass on the line and try to get something done.
The windows driver model is documented up the ass. If you want to write a driver, there is nothing aside from lazyness stopping you. Likewise with applications programming: the OS architecture is highly documented, and so are all the hooks into the various DLLs and subsystems.
The reason companies dont make official drivers for old MS OS's is because the Win2k and beyond driver model is much better, and easier to support.
Also, I wouldnt brag about the Winmodem thing: getting them to work is a recent development, much like USB. If OSS is so much better, why does it take so long to get things done?
Microsoft addicted those users to Windows 98, and is responsible for their care and feeding.
WTF? Are you smoking crack? Because thats the only addiction going on that I see.
Microsoft is dropping support because they want people to start using a more secure, stable, and easier to support OS. If you think Win98 is so great, thats because you dont use or support it.
If I can't use my bank account with my standards compliant browser, I give a damn if the page renders perfectly in some browser that other people use. Can you afford the risk to lose 10% of your customers? Maybe would be cheaper, maybe not.
Depending on your source, the amount of potential customers lost can be far less than 10% (more like 6% tops). Also, the target audience for a bank isnt some computer geek who uses linux and doesnt use a shower. Its some yuppie who gets his shit from Dell and drives a BMW, and couldnt give two shits about Linux, unless he works for IBM, in which case he only cares about it enought to laugh at all the suckers giving him their work for free.
The majority of people dont seek to define themselves through their choice in web browsers.
I simply don't want this choice to be taken away from me, because I think this would hamper the technological evolution of the web.
Get a grip. Its just a means of displaying information on a page, its not a revolution in free thinking.
I listen to techno, punk, and industrial. None of these get played on the radio, or at best only a few songs which went 'mainstream' and got stuck into their crappy playlists.
No, when I say the music they put out is shit, I mean it. Im tired of seeing the fifteenth clone of Menudo or New Kids on the Block or whatever. Im tired of the clones of the Supremes, with the always-present 'three hot black chicks' group. Im tired of the young attractive white blond girl. Im tired of the formulaic cookie cutter bands singing their boring lyrics (written by someone else) to bland music (written and performed by someone else).
Today's music sucks. If you want to hear real musicians, you need to look outside the US.
With Linux and OSS, I can download the latest anything already - license included, no waiting. CDs available overnight from many vendors.
Big f'ing deal. Its free because nobody wants it; certainly not any of the corporations I work at do. I would rather pay for something which is in demand than wallow in free obscurity.
Funnily enough, many a router runs Linux internally...
Im sure that comes as quite a shock to Cisco.
This is all nice, because it leaves lots of money left over for the NOD32 virus scanner, which I run on the Linux server to clean the infected email that Windows boxen fling at me every so often.
Its generally not considered intelligent to blame a company for something over which it has no control. MS isnt the one putting all those computers onto the internet without a firewall, the ISPs are, and so are the users.
Even on your desktop you're paying for software to fix Windows flaws that you've already paid for
Like what? The Google Toolbar blocks pop-ups for free, Ad-Aware is free, and Zone Alarm is free. The only thing I paid for is McAfee Virus Scan, and the program is years old; it is a windows NT version which happens to also run on perfectly fine on Windows 2000. Also, how are Viruses a 'flaw'? How are pop-ups a 'flaw'? I fail to see any of these flaws you claim these programs correct.
Go get a current version of Linux with Mozilla 1.5 and OpenOffice.org 1.1 and have a play. Then when you like it, replace your old Windows servers with something better
Already tried to install linux on two old machines. Two different distros failed to install on either of them. I cant see waisting any more time on a POS which cant even get an install to work properly.
No, you are missing the fact that it is possible to have a secure network AND use Microsoft products. The only viruses which can get me are undiscoverd 'in the wild' ones, and then only if they chance upon me. Also, since I am behind a firewall, they would essentially have to hack my firewall, then hack thru the personal firewall on the machine, an then infect the computer with a virus which the virus scanner cant detect. If it can do all that, it can have my network.
You need to take a risk management class, because this is all simple stuff. You are basically saying something which essentially isnt true, then cover it by citing something which is extremely improbable.
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Oh well, time to start shorting IBM's stock.
I read "Virtual Light" with the distinct impression that I had read it before. Than it occured to me: oh ya, this is a poor-man's version of "Snow Crash"!!!
I could just visualize Bill sitting down at his typewriter with all the notes he took after reading it. After reading that hijacked work, I pretty much lost all respect for him. His "X-Files" episodes were pretty good, though.
Than maybe you should have... cough... bullshit... cough...
You still refuse to answer the question.
Answer what question? The fact that LDAP and ACLs dont make something a NOS? The fact that they dont help you run a network? The fact that you dont know what you are talking about? What question am I refusing to answer?
Take a class, get some experience, etc. Im not here to educate you on Networking 101.
In another thread you said that you weren't able to install two Linux distributions. No wonder that you didn't earn much. How's work at McDonalds?
I was able to install it. I couldnt get it to display any video on one computer, and it wouldnt install at on on the other.
Its not my fault Linux has a half-finished, shitty install routine. Honestly, I dont neither the time nor the inclination to work with this kind of junk.
Add that to the fact that Im not getting paid to be a Linux expert, and it prety much seals the deal. I earn quite a bit, thanks for your concern. But Linux experience isnt going to help me one bit, and just ends up being a huge waste of time (nobody in corporate America really gives a shit about Linux, to be blunt).
Cost of setting the Windows Update service: $0.00
It can also be enabled via AD policies (or even logon script), meaning you dont even have to pay for people to set this on each PC. So you are only paying your admin to do something which should take him at most 30 minutes, and probably a lot less.
Nice bullshit attempt, but like all bullshit around here, it just demonstrates how little you actually know.
The TCO impact of patching every machine is huge and I bet its not included in Microsoft's numbers. In this case, thin clients rule!!! (even microsoft--actually citrix-- ones)
Ya, whatever. Now go get your shinebox!
Nice FUD, security n00b. Like all good FUD, its heavy on anecdotes and light on facts.
Try actually working working somewhere with more than five computers; look for examples outside your dorm room, kid. Try checking somewhere that uses NetWare (which I still consider to be the king of NOS's).
Besides, if you knew what the hell you were talking about (which you obviously dont), you would know that both NetWare and Active Directory already USE both ACLs and X.500 (LDAP). There is FAR more to being an NOS than either of those two components you mentioned. Thats like saying four wheels and an axel makes you a car. Please get a clue. This is just stupid. Ask a real admin.
your skills are weak. your stupid-fu is no match for my NOS-style.
Try working in a real-world IT department doing admin work. I could do admin work again, but I wouldnt want the pay cut.
On a positive note, they ended the series after the first book. Thats the same thing writers like L Ron Hubbard or Phillip Jose Farmer should have learned how to do.
Try working somewhere that has a *real* network operating system (and uses it well), like Active Directory or Netware. Linux doesnt HAVE a NOS. A linux network is just a bunch of independent machines on the same IP subnet.
A network running hundreds of linux clients- thats a pretty scary thing from a network management standpoint.
In my experience, stupidity always costs more.
BTW, why isnt the press full of accounts on all the linux kernel exploits that seem to crop up?
They are going to have a new iPod, and new slogan: Hey, our batteries may only last a year, but you'll look good for that whole year!
But I guess thats like saying Quake 3 beat Duke Nukem Forever to the punch.
if they can physically gain access to the computer. This is what this linux bug entails.
Sigh. Once again, let me expain something to all you pseudo-expert security n00bs here: If somebody can get physical access to your computer, you have already lost. If I can gain physical access to a linux server, I could just unplug it and remove the hard drives. Wow, a security breach that only took me five minutes! Not only that, but my 'exploit' is platform independant, too. Since I have posted it here, I'll throw you a bone and make it an 'Open Source' exploit.
If you actually knew what you were talking about, you wouldnt have made that statement. So go take some security classes, kid, and you may want to take you head out of the sand while you are at it.
This is the first time you've ever heard about this linux vulnerability right....and wow it's fixed!
I wonder how long the exploit that r00ted Caldera was in the wild for? I would guess pretty long. But since you guys taut how supposedly secure Linux is over Windows, it must be kind of scary that there have been two KERNEL-LEVEL r00t exploits in as many months. Almost makes one want to take their head out of the sand and look at the REAL world!
Nah.
How about...you shut the fuck up!
How about you post with your real account instead of being a little pussy?
How about you get ready for school tomorrow, kid?
Whats that everyone says about having so many eyes on the code? Looks like they may need to add a few more eyes.
Thanks guys, but I'll be sticking to Google for a while longer, it seems.
Nah. There is always SOMETHING to complain about!
Likewise, Windows 95 was more stable than Win98. However, there were a lot of improvements made in Win98 which made it preferable to Win95 (good USB support being a major one). Nothing is perfect. Welcome to planet Earth.
Also, from the somewhat few times I have had to do phone support, I know its pretty hard. Walking a non-tech through steps they dont understand isnt very fun or rewarding.
Just because you had a bad experience with a bad model doesnt make them a bad company. I have had bad stereo equipment from Sony, but that was my fault for not researching what I was going to purchase. That doesnt mean Sony (or Apex) is a bad company, just that sometimes its easy for a corporation to put out a bad model.
Here's to Slashdot and all the armchair geeks!
The reason companies dont make official drivers for old MS OS's is because the Win2k and beyond driver model is much better, and easier to support.
Also, I wouldnt brag about the Winmodem thing: getting them to work is a recent development, much like USB. If OSS is so much better, why does it take so long to get things done?
Microsoft addicted those users to Windows 98, and is responsible for their care and feeding.
WTF? Are you smoking crack? Because thats the only addiction going on that I see.
Microsoft is dropping support because they want people to start using a more secure, stable, and easier to support OS. If you think Win98 is so great, thats because you dont use or support it.
Depending on your source, the amount of potential customers lost can be far less than 10% (more like 6% tops). Also, the target audience for a bank isnt some computer geek who uses linux and doesnt use a shower. Its some yuppie who gets his shit from Dell and drives a BMW, and couldnt give two shits about Linux, unless he works for IBM, in which case he only cares about it enought to laugh at all the suckers giving him their work for free.
The majority of people dont seek to define themselves through their choice in web browsers.
I simply don't want this choice to be taken away from me, because I think this would hamper the technological evolution of the web.
Get a grip. Its just a means of displaying information on a page, its not a revolution in free thinking.
No, when I say the music they put out is shit, I mean it. Im tired of seeing the fifteenth clone of Menudo or New Kids on the Block or whatever. Im tired of the clones of the Supremes, with the always-present 'three hot black chicks' group. Im tired of the young attractive white blond girl. Im tired of the formulaic cookie cutter bands singing their boring lyrics (written by someone else) to bland music (written and performed by someone else).
Today's music sucks. If you want to hear real musicians, you need to look outside the US.
Big f'ing deal. Its free because nobody wants it; certainly not any of the corporations I work at do. I would rather pay for something which is in demand than wallow in free obscurity.
Funnily enough, many a router runs Linux internally...
Im sure that comes as quite a shock to Cisco.
This is all nice, because it leaves lots of money left over for the NOD32 virus scanner, which I run on the Linux server to clean the infected email that Windows boxen fling at me every so often.
Its generally not considered intelligent to blame a company for something over which it has no control. MS isnt the one putting all those computers onto the internet without a firewall, the ISPs are, and so are the users.
Even on your desktop you're paying for software to fix Windows flaws that you've already paid for
Like what? The Google Toolbar blocks pop-ups for free, Ad-Aware is free, and Zone Alarm is free. The only thing I paid for is McAfee Virus Scan, and the program is years old; it is a windows NT version which happens to also run on perfectly fine on Windows 2000. Also, how are Viruses a 'flaw'? How are pop-ups a 'flaw'? I fail to see any of these flaws you claim these programs correct.
Go get a current version of Linux with Mozilla 1.5 and OpenOffice.org 1.1 and have a play. Then when you like it, replace your old Windows servers with something better
Already tried to install linux on two old machines. Two different distros failed to install on either of them. I cant see waisting any more time on a POS which cant even get an install to work properly.
You need to take a risk management class, because this is all simple stuff. You are basically saying something which essentially isnt true, then cover it by citing something which is extremely improbable.
Ping the router, wait for reply. Ten seconds.
Telnet into router. Ten seconds.
Have router ping DNS server and wait for reply. Fifteen seconds.
Total time spent checking connectivity? Less than one minute.