It's only a loss during the launch phase. Sony has always made a slight profit from hardware sales from the psx to the ps2 after that point. They've stated this many many times but I guess the consoles sold at a loss mantra will stay forever (xbox never helped with this either--losing like a billion per year for the entire division since it's creation).
So many people are against DRM but I want to see a realistic proposal by you guys. How will you get the support from media creaters, authors, and publishers to obtain their work for your device without DRM? Everyone wants some protection for their work. Six devices to be honest isn't that bad at all. Consider a text book. You could technically copy it but who would bother copying a 500 page text (and with the binding on these, who would do it fully). Six painless copies of such large texts are imo pretty decent.
Because you can just assume with any such old or non graphically intensive game will run with the most weak graphic processing setups. Any modern game that requires a graphic card would crawl with any integrated chip due to lack of dedicated video memory which is both an order of magnitude faster then system ram and not shared.
Starcraft and warcraft 3 (with a sufficiently beefy processor and mobo, ie anything in the last 2 years) will run on any video card with even the most minute 2d and 3d acceleration capabilities. I'm fairly sure you need zero acceleration for starcraft as it's 2d.
I wouldn't be surprised if my current machine (athlon 64 3800+ with 2 gigs of ddr500) could play both with a old 8mb pci card. Starcraft will run flawlessly but warcraft might give trouble.
Yeah, I almost wouldn't have bothered with the ps3 without seeing that video. Nothing else looked interesting enough to plunk down $200-$400 on a console (i'm definately not spending goddamn launch price on the system).
My precious japanese rpg's (the major ones) which were usually concentrated on one system per generation (SNES, PSX, PS2) seems to be divided into two and maybe three consoles this time around. Microsoft bought out Hironobu's or payed them a truckload of cash to be 360 exclusives and sony also has talented studio's (level 5, square enix also have at least some talent left) in their wing.
I miss the time I could go on with only one console. Unless the 360 folds and Blue Dragon/Lost Odyssey either suck or come out of the ps3 I can't seem myself without it.
Well, primarily analysts were expecting a sellout of the meager 100k units being supplied their at launch.
More importantly however your point is flawed, startup costs like factory tooling/building are far greater then cost per unit without that built in. Sony's already spent billions before even making one ps3 unit, that is where most of the money went.
You will get far closer to profitability if you keep on churning units at the max capacity of the factory to regain the cost of building it.
No, no it doesn't... As long as the resolution your running is supported by the new monitor your fine. I've switched monitors with the computer on a few times on windows xp with no issues.
Why not just add a switchbox for the lesser used hdmi devices, and switch between them? I haven't bought a graphics card in the last 4-5 years without a dvi port which is the most important function to most for hdmi.
You also said "dvd" player and not hd, since when and why do you need hdmi for standard res dvd's?
Virtually every analyst believes that sony will be taking a loss on their shipments of ps2's. It doesn't matter if they are charging $600 or $200, there is no reason to bundle a cable that the vast majority will not use.
I don't know of any console or electronic that doesn't ship with basic cables that work with all devices. I work at an electronics store, whether we are talking about high end dvd players, HD tvs, or any gaming console to day. They will support the lowest common denominator and thats all out of the box.
Uh, deathwish + berserker stance will also make it so the warriors will also take a shitload more damage. Most of the warriors fury related dps increases come with a sacrifice in survivability.
-They had no playable games at that time -The controller wasn't perfected in the E3 show that occurred after any spring launch -They didn't have the Cell chip manufacturing primed and ready for over one million units per month (they barely have that now).
Blu-ray being the only reason for a delay my shiny metal ass!
While ipod sounding kind of odd, it also kind of sounded hip when i first heard it years ago. Zune just sounds ridiculous. I can't even imagine saying, imma play this on my zune.
If raiding 3-5 hours a day for a few days a week was sufficient to be a decent team player, I'd be all up for it. After my last guild broke up (after attendance waned and our server broke 3x per day or lagged us to hell while raiding) I was reluctant to join another raiding guild because it made you fucking tired. I wasn't a big fan of farming bosses we've killed ages ago but I loved going into new instances and figuring out how to beat the next boss even if it took many deaths.
What I got tired of was collecting god damn new resist equipment for every new dungeon with still limited bagspace along with new potions. I already need two sets of gear just to be productive as a damaging warrior and a tank. So just for MC i used three sets of gear near the end, then i had to get nature gear, then some shadow, and now frost. This after blizzard said they'd stop going the resist route over a year ago. Which of course turned out to be false (yeah lets see you do all of aq with no nature resist gear).
Ridiculous amounts of required farming for mats, + ridiculous amount of equipment sets required, + ridiculous server uptime and performance (monstrous amounts of lag during prime raid time) just made me want to quit.
Even prenerfs with normal blue-green gear around that lvl you could clear with 10-15 people. Even MC (which is by far the most ridiculously easy 40 man raid instance) you'd need at least 30-35 people in blue-green gear to start out. New guilds killing ragnaros with less then 38-40 people in blue-epic would take quite some skill.
You could also take 40 people to BRD or Scarlet Monastary pre-caps. Does that make then 40 man instances too?
The difference is, 40 man new instances actually require 40 people to finish. I'd like to see you take 25 people to naxx or aq today and see how far they get.
I'm not sure about what changed but the first time i read the "article" on this game many months ago it said you wereon't going to be the bully. I thought you were gonna be the guy being picked on or something, in any case it was never about being the bully.
THat was all completely worthless and untrue. It's sad that it has been mentioned probably a million times over the last few months on slashdot that both HD-DVD and blu-ray have the same god damn aacs copy protection with ict. Search wikipedia for more details.
It means that the older gen consoles still have life in them. That is the entire point of my post, the ten year duration =p. I'm not trying to predict who will be the "winner" if any in this upcoming console generation. Just the probability that this generation will sell well 4-5 years from now (at least the ps2 and or gamecube).
Yeah because the ps3 was released ten years after the ps2.... What they mean is that the console will be in production for that long. For example, the psone was just bought out of production last year. That's pretty close to ten years if it hasn't passed it.
The ps2 will be a ten year system if they can still sell it for the next 5ish years. Which they probably can due to strong brand name appeal and the expense of the new system. (ps2's still outsell xbox360's week by week now).
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It's only a loss during the launch phase. Sony has always made a slight profit from hardware sales from the psx to the ps2 after that point. They've stated this many many times but I guess the consoles sold at a loss mantra will stay forever (xbox never helped with this either--losing like a billion per year for the entire division since it's creation).
So many people are against DRM but I want to see a realistic proposal by you guys. How will you get the support from media creaters, authors, and publishers to obtain their work for your device without DRM? Everyone wants some protection for their work. Six devices to be honest isn't that bad at all. Consider a text book. You could technically copy it but who would bother copying a 500 page text (and with the binding on these, who would do it fully). Six painless copies of such large texts are imo pretty decent.
Because you can just assume with any such old or non graphically intensive game will run with the most weak graphic processing setups. Any modern game that requires a graphic card would crawl with any integrated chip due to lack of dedicated video memory which is both an order of magnitude faster then system ram and not shared.
Starcraft and warcraft 3 (with a sufficiently beefy processor and mobo, ie anything in the last 2 years) will run on any video card with even the most minute 2d and 3d acceleration capabilities. I'm fairly sure you need zero acceleration for starcraft as it's 2d.
I wouldn't be surprised if my current machine (athlon 64 3800+ with 2 gigs of ddr500) could play both with a old 8mb pci card. Starcraft will run flawlessly but warcraft might give trouble.
Yeah, I almost wouldn't have bothered with the ps3 without seeing that video. Nothing else looked interesting enough to plunk down $200-$400 on a console (i'm definately not spending goddamn launch price on the system).
My precious japanese rpg's (the major ones) which were usually concentrated on one system per generation (SNES, PSX, PS2) seems to be divided into two and maybe three consoles this time around. Microsoft bought out Hironobu's or payed them a truckload of cash to be 360 exclusives and sony also has talented studio's (level 5, square enix also have at least some talent left) in their wing.
I miss the time I could go on with only one console. Unless the 360 folds and Blue Dragon/Lost Odyssey either suck or come out of the ps3 I can't seem myself without it.
Well, primarily analysts were expecting a sellout of the meager 100k units being supplied their at launch.
More importantly however your point is flawed, startup costs like factory tooling/building are far greater then cost per unit without that built in. Sony's already spent billions before even making one ps3 unit, that is where most of the money went.
You will get far closer to profitability if you keep on churning units at the max capacity of the factory to regain the cost of building it.
Plasma's mostly seem to have low pixel density. Link your plasma =P, although there are a few new 1080p plasmas.
My ass. You can buy a 27inch HDTV for $500 or less and a LCD HDTV of 26 inches for $600ish.
No, no it doesn't... As long as the resolution your running is supported by the new monitor your fine. I've switched monitors with the computer on a few times on windows xp with no issues.
HDMI is basically dvi (you can get cheap direct adapters since it's pin compatible as well) with digital audio combined.
So it's not an upgrade in video quality from dvi, it's the same thing. As for drm, thats a bit more complicated.
Why not just add a switchbox for the lesser used hdmi devices, and switch between them? I haven't bought a graphics card in the last 4-5 years without a dvi port which is the most important function to most for hdmi.
You also said "dvd" player and not hd, since when and why do you need hdmi for standard res dvd's?
Virtually every analyst believes that sony will be taking a loss on their shipments of ps2's. It doesn't matter if they are charging $600 or $200, there is no reason to bundle a cable that the vast majority will not use.
I don't know of any console or electronic that doesn't ship with basic cables that work with all devices. I work at an electronics store, whether we are talking about high end dvd players, HD tvs, or any gaming console to day. They will support the lowest common denominator and thats all out of the box.
Uh that already exists, it's called a scooter. Don't think it's possible to keep the current features of a segway and make it smaller.
We sell gold plated six foot hdmi cables for $10.
Uh, deathwish + berserker stance will also make it so the warriors will also take a shitload more damage. Most of the warriors fury related dps increases come with a sacrifice in survivability.
So, what are offtanks that aren't full prot supposed to do for 85% of the raid that doesn't require them to tank?
-They had no playable games at that time
-The controller wasn't perfected in the E3 show that occurred after any spring launch
-They didn't have the Cell chip manufacturing primed and ready for over one million units per month (they barely have that now).
Blu-ray being the only reason for a delay my shiny metal ass!
21. It won't have a decen name.
While ipod sounding kind of odd, it also kind of sounded hip when i first heard it years ago. Zune just sounds ridiculous. I can't even imagine saying, imma play this on my zune.
If raiding 3-5 hours a day for a few days a week was sufficient to be a decent team player, I'd be all up for it. After my last guild broke up (after attendance waned and our server broke 3x per day or lagged us to hell while raiding) I was reluctant to join another raiding guild because it made you fucking tired. I wasn't a big fan of farming bosses we've killed ages ago but I loved going into new instances and figuring out how to beat the next boss even if it took many deaths.
What I got tired of was collecting god damn new resist equipment for every new dungeon with still limited bagspace along with new potions. I already need two sets of gear just to be productive as a damaging warrior and a tank. So just for MC i used three sets of gear near the end, then i had to get nature gear, then some shadow, and now frost. This after blizzard said they'd stop going the resist route over a year ago. Which of course turned out to be false (yeah lets see you do all of aq with no nature resist gear).
Ridiculous amounts of required farming for mats, + ridiculous amount of equipment sets required, + ridiculous server uptime and performance (monstrous amounts of lag during prime raid time) just made me want to quit.
Even prenerfs with normal blue-green gear around that lvl you could clear with 10-15 people. Even MC (which is by far the most ridiculously easy 40 man raid instance) you'd need at least 30-35 people in blue-green gear to start out. New guilds killing ragnaros with less then 38-40 people in blue-epic would take quite some skill.
You could also take 40 people to BRD or Scarlet Monastary pre-caps. Does that make then 40 man instances too?
The difference is, 40 man new instances actually require 40 people to finish. I'd like to see you take 25 people to naxx or aq today and see how far they get.
I'm not sure about what changed but the first time i read the "article" on this game many months ago it said you wereon't going to be the bully. I thought you were gonna be the guy being picked on or something, in any case it was never about being the bully.
Yeah, because everyone plans on abiding by the drm and not breaking it to meet their needs.
THat was all completely worthless and untrue. It's sad that it has been mentioned probably a million times over the last few months on slashdot that both HD-DVD and blu-ray have the same god damn aacs copy protection with ict. Search wikipedia for more details.
It means that the older gen consoles still have life in them. That is the entire point of my post, the ten year duration =p. I'm not trying to predict who will be the "winner" if any in this upcoming console generation. Just the probability that this generation will sell well 4-5 years from now (at least the ps2 and or gamecube).
Yeah because the ps3 was released ten years after the ps2.... What they mean is that the console will be in production for that long. For example, the psone was just bought out of production last year. That's pretty close to ten years if it hasn't passed it.
The ps2 will be a ten year system if they can still sell it for the next 5ish years. Which they probably can due to strong brand name appeal and the expense of the new system. (ps2's still outsell xbox360's week by week now).