PS3 seems to be the only console with official support (has a flipping alternate os install option in the OS that ships with it). Third party YDL is devoloping a distro for the ps3 release (free to download two weeks after they start selling discs). Also supports USB peripherals. It would be interesting what someoen can do for it using a TV tuner or HDTV tuner. Processing power shouldn't be an issue.
At the very least once can expect a ps3 media center like the xbox.
WII linux seems to have been a rumor and the only distribution in development is by an amateur who is doing it for college. Goodluck defeating the DRM.
Usually when he's being condescending he's being blunt and answering the actual question. Rumsfeld is just condescending and skirts around the question.
House is popular because he says things how he sees them. Rumsfeld is just being an asshole and dishonest at the same time.
Err, the ps3 version of media center (if one is created) should be pretty good actually. It functions decently on a xbox which has far less memory and processing power. With the processing power in the cell it should be able to handle high definition video. Also Sony says the ps2 does take usb hard drives so you can get a cheap one going that route.
Hardware wise Sony seems to be pretty lenient on what they will allow compared to past and present consoles by them and everyone else (no more sticking with just their proprietary memory cards). All usb hardware should work with appropriate drivers. Linux will be installable without spending time trying to break the drm or other security features(like you had to do with xbox and every other console) and it will be a professional version by YDL (will be made free download 2 weeks after release).
The only thing the open source community needs to do is make software like the xbox media center. Once the prices begin to fall on the ps3 i think it will be a bigger as far as open source dev goes than an xbox. The power in it should allow for more possiblilities.
Your statement makes no sense at all. The dual layer'd disc would hold more data then a single layer. The new codec based on MPEG 4 (VC4? used in hd-dvd's) requires less capacity then mpeg2 which was used in blu-ray discs.
That's pretty high tech for them to be monitoring a chat program like that. I assume they dont' actively monitor every single person in the country that uses the net. So they would need some ridiculous filters to know that was a nude pic. Freakishly expensive equipment.
How exactly is the government squeezing it's grip on the internet? They don't really do a whole lot other then govern how it's handled here in the U.S. and make sure no laws are broken. I guess we do run most (but not all) DNS root servers but I'm not sure how that makes us a powerhouse. There are other root servers and it's not like we are using them in any power play or ransoms.
Yeah like a mess of nations in the European Union that wanted to censor the internet? I can't trust any global organizations when we've had much better success at not destroying the freedom found in the internet. The only limitations we've put were directly related to some crime that the global community wouldn't allow either.
In the last few years, the EU has tried to censor the net as best as they could. We know that 1/6th of the word's population (China) wouldn't object ot a massively censored internet. Throw in crazy radical muslim nations (Iran, etc.) and you've got one hell of a internet organizational mess (kinda like the UN, thank god for veto powers or else you know there'd probably tons of utterly ridiculous propositions passed on top of a few good ones that were unfortunately vetoed).
They would have easily sold at least 500K (half the amount the ps2 instantly sold out of on the first day) on launch day no matter the price. The places that offered online pre-orders in japan were out of units within 6 minutes.
The playstation had already come out and had a very decent library by the time the n64 came out. What was worse is that there was basically one game at launch (super mario 64) and another a month later. While super mario was a nice game that was still a weak launch by any measure.
The psx had many crappy games and no one disputes that. But a lot of it was still quite entertaining. There were a lot of new ideas and games on the psx (console wise). Parappa the Rapper, Crash Bandicoot, 3d racing, and 3d fighting (not completely new but oh well). I actually had fun playing a lot of non AAA title early psx games. They gave this overwhelmingly refreshing feeling. The 3dness of the psx seemed so different then every console before it.
The N64 was only moderately refreshing. 3D was no longer brand new and Super Mario 64 was only moderately appealing. A large number of gamers had gotten older and there was an overwhelming feeling that Nintendo was a kid's console. This has gotten weaker since but the idea still persists for many. Piracy also sold a lot of psx, the mod community was thriving.
So far everyone almost everyone that's used it (including those who felt it was flimsy due to lack of weight) have easily gotten used to it. Game designers and players seemed to like the implementation of the tilt in many games like dragonflight in lair.
Will I miss rumble, will i miss the weight? To a degree yes, I will... However I welcome a lighter and wireless controller as it would help greatly with the tilt. I can imagine tilting the old controller in the air and the tiredness one would feel. I don't think it's an accident that caused it to be so light.
The ps3 is quite appealing to me and i'd love to buy it....(once it reaches the $349 price point on the lower end unit).
Why do modern games need to come in such massive packages. I'm sure one can fit tetris in a floppy disk and it's a pretty fun game. I don't get all the whinage here anyway. I've never seen such a large group of tech oriented folks so much against having new tech. If this helps speed up adoption rates of higher capacity removeable discs then what's the complaint.
Bleeding edge product's prices will fall fastest as with equal time and mass manufacture. In 4 years the ps3 will be more expensive then the wii but you have the hard drive to mostly blame then (components of blu-ray, a much smaller cell chip, along with cheaper video/system ram, will have reduced to near ps2 lvls now--with blu-ray taking a $5-$10 dollar component cost increase at max over dvds).
Sony's engineer's are touting how much they are giving the developers power to do what they want to.
It comes down to this from the article: Partly it's visual, partly it's sound, and partially it'll be down to gameplay benefits as well - more levels, more detail, richer experiences.
Having better hardware does not necessarily make the games less innovative. I don't see why people seem to think it's mutually exclusive. I see few drawbacks to more powerful hardware in the longterm that will come down in price fast (the newer the tech, the more expensive it is but the faster the prices will come down).
Believe it or not there are people who like cinematic rpgs and like to look a luscious graphics while playing them. Your console can both appeal to these people and those who have virtually no powerful cinematics and still be an awesome game through gameplay (gta), katamari damacy. Or better yet a mixture of both like God of War.
The amount of innovation that came from sega seems to only be rivaled by Nintendo. Come to think of it like half of all games sega made for the DC seemed to be totally new things. Shenmue, jet grind, etc.
DC had me much more excited in the past then either the ps3 or the xbox360. I've never been a fan of the nintendo style of games, although i've been entertained by quite a few.
Yeah, damn capcom for closing a studio after 3 unprofitable games in a row. I personally would give them another try but it's a business and it's in for profit.
Nice link, those cars however that they rebuilt were disgusting. Old bodies, poor range, poor performance, and poor price. The positive thing is it rules out remaking an old gas powered car into electrical. As many have suggested going for a more efficient gas or diesel car is your best bet.
Mistwalker Studios (which was bought by and published by Microsoft) is releasing one japanese rpg (Blue Dragon--which looks okay mind you not awesome, it's being hyped a great deal but it doesn't seem particulariy amazing when i see screenshots and possible gameplay). There was one more jrpg (the rest of the content is mostly american).
White Knight and FF's on the ps3 are more then enough to win the japanese and myself over (specially white knight). I am looking forward to the Lost Odyssey which should be released next year though. But i cannot imagine myself buying a whole system for one goddamn game I might like. I can for the ps3 though, free blu-ray player that cost less then a standalone player. I'm also a gran turismo freak so I can't imagine myself without a ps3.
The difference between HD feeds and DVD are as clear as night as day on my particular tv. I'm just not to impressed with first gen hd discs enough to shell out the money for em.
Two hundred dollars at launch... You can bet your ass that prices will drop on newer more bleeding edge components fastest. That includes the massive cell and blu-ray. It's going to be interesting to see how low prices for the ps3 will go next year. And the chances of my purchase may increase a few pct points (i'm guessing i won't get the thing for over a year till it drops).
Conroe is a leap in processor core design, AM2 is just a new motherboard and chipset design that utilized ddr2 ram. NO one I knew off expected massive performance gains. AMD was just going to the future supporting a newer ram standard that uses less power and had higher bandwidth potential.
We didn't think AMD would equal much less beat conroe until their new processor core designs (K8L, etc) came out in a comparabble process size (.60nm or.45nm).
I'm not sure who exactly was surprised in the last two-three months. Hardcore amd fanboys that didn't pay attention to news or people who weren't reading up on what these two new things were (am2: same processor new chipset vs. massive new processor design that is conroe).
Currently itunes video's that i've downloaded were of atrocious video quality @dvd prices ($40ish for a full season of a series). Knowing that I'd get a DVD would be quite reasuring.
Amazon.com has me somewhat salvating. Prices are still decent but from the file specifications that quality might be much higher.
The ps3 is more difficult to program for and thus first generation games/ports may look worse then 1st gen games of other simpler systems when compared to their full potential.
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PS3 seems to be the only console with official support (has a flipping alternate os install option in the OS that ships with it). Third party YDL is devoloping a distro for the ps3 release (free to download two weeks after they start selling discs). Also supports USB peripherals. It would be interesting what someoen can do for it using a TV tuner or HDTV tuner. Processing power shouldn't be an issue.
At the very least once can expect a ps3 media center like the xbox.
WII linux seems to have been a rumor and the only distribution in development is by an amateur who is doing it for college. Goodluck defeating the DRM.
Usually when he's being condescending he's being blunt and answering the actual question. Rumsfeld is just condescending and skirts around the question.
House is popular because he says things how he sees them. Rumsfeld is just being an asshole and dishonest at the same time.
Err, the ps3 version of media center (if one is created) should be pretty good actually. It functions decently on a xbox which has far less memory and processing power. With the processing power in the cell it should be able to handle high definition video. Also Sony says the ps2 does take usb hard drives so you can get a cheap one going that route.
Hardware wise Sony seems to be pretty lenient on what they will allow compared to past and present consoles by them and everyone else (no more sticking with just their proprietary memory cards). All usb hardware should work with appropriate drivers. Linux will be installable without spending time trying to break the drm or other security features(like you had to do with xbox and every other console) and it will be a professional version by YDL (will be made free download 2 weeks after release).
The only thing the open source community needs to do is make software like the xbox media center. Once the prices begin to fall on the ps3 i think it will be a bigger as far as open source dev goes than an xbox. The power in it should allow for more possiblilities.
Your statement makes no sense at all. The dual layer'd disc would hold more data then a single layer. The new codec based on MPEG 4 (VC4? used in hd-dvd's) requires less capacity then mpeg2 which was used in blu-ray discs.
Doesn't matter, some moron down the road will think on top of it being a joke it was actually feasible at one time.
And pay $100 more dollars for it then it would have cost locally.... uh no thanks.
That's pretty high tech for them to be monitoring a chat program like that. I assume they dont' actively monitor every single person in the country that uses the net. So they would need some ridiculous filters to know that was a nude pic. Freakishly expensive equipment.
How exactly is the government squeezing it's grip on the internet? They don't really do a whole lot other then govern how it's handled here in the U.S. and make sure no laws are broken. I guess we do run most (but not all) DNS root servers but I'm not sure how that makes us a powerhouse. There are other root servers and it's not like we are using them in any power play or ransoms.
Yeah like a mess of nations in the European Union that wanted to censor the internet? I can't trust any global organizations when we've had much better success at not destroying the freedom found in the internet. The only limitations we've put were directly related to some crime that the global community wouldn't allow either.
In the last few years, the EU has tried to censor the net as best as they could. We know that 1/6th of the word's population (China) wouldn't object ot a massively censored internet. Throw in crazy radical muslim nations (Iran, etc.) and you've got one hell of a internet organizational mess (kinda like the UN, thank god for veto powers or else you know there'd probably tons of utterly ridiculous propositions passed on top of a few good ones that were unfortunately vetoed).
They would have easily sold at least 500K (half the amount the ps2 instantly sold out of on the first day) on launch day no matter the price. The places that offered online pre-orders in japan were out of units within 6 minutes.
The playstation had already come out and had a very decent library by the time the n64 came out. What was worse is that there was basically one game at launch (super mario 64) and another a month later. While super mario was a nice game that was still a weak launch by any measure.
The psx had many crappy games and no one disputes that. But a lot of it was still quite entertaining. There were a lot of new ideas and games on the psx (console wise). Parappa the Rapper, Crash Bandicoot, 3d racing, and 3d fighting (not completely new but oh well). I actually had fun playing a lot of non AAA title early psx games. They gave this overwhelmingly refreshing feeling. The 3dness of the psx seemed so different then every console before it.
The N64 was only moderately refreshing. 3D was no longer brand new and Super Mario 64 was only moderately appealing. A large number of gamers had gotten older and there was an overwhelming feeling that Nintendo was a kid's console. This has gotten weaker since but the idea still persists for many. Piracy also sold a lot of psx, the mod community was thriving.
So far everyone almost everyone that's used it (including those who felt it was flimsy due to lack of weight) have easily gotten used to it. Game designers and players seemed to like the implementation of the tilt in many games like dragonflight in lair.
Will I miss rumble, will i miss the weight? To a degree yes, I will... However I welcome a lighter and wireless controller as it would help greatly with the tilt. I can imagine tilting the old controller in the air and the tiredness one would feel. I don't think it's an accident that caused it to be so light.
The ps3 is quite appealing to me and i'd love to buy it....(once it reaches the $349 price point on the lower end unit).
At least when you look from the perspective as a U.S. citizen. Locally bought consoles were always cheaper then having them shipped from overseas.
Why do modern games need to come in such massive packages. I'm sure one can fit tetris in a floppy disk and it's a pretty fun game. I don't get all the whinage here anyway. I've never seen such a large group of tech oriented folks so much against having new tech. If this helps speed up adoption rates of higher capacity removeable discs then what's the complaint.
Bleeding edge product's prices will fall fastest as with equal time and mass manufacture. In 4 years the ps3 will be more expensive then the wii but you have the hard drive to mostly blame then (components of blu-ray, a much smaller cell chip, along with cheaper video/system ram, will have reduced to near ps2 lvls now--with blu-ray taking a $5-$10 dollar component cost increase at max over dvds).
Sony's engineer's are touting how much they are giving the developers power to do what they want to.
It comes down to this from the article:
Partly it's visual, partly it's sound, and partially it'll be down to gameplay benefits as well - more levels, more detail, richer experiences.
Having better hardware does not necessarily make the games less innovative. I don't see why people seem to think it's mutually exclusive. I see few drawbacks to more powerful hardware in the longterm that will come down in price fast (the newer the tech, the more expensive it is but the faster the prices will come down).
Believe it or not there are people who like cinematic rpgs and like to look a luscious graphics while playing them. Your console can both appeal to these people and those who have virtually no powerful cinematics and still be an awesome game through gameplay (gta), katamari damacy. Or better yet a mixture of both like God of War.
The amount of innovation that came from sega seems to only be rivaled by Nintendo. Come to think of it like half of all games sega made for the DC seemed to be totally new things. Shenmue, jet grind, etc.
DC had me much more excited in the past then either the ps3 or the xbox360. I've never been a fan of the nintendo style of games, although i've been entertained by quite a few.
Yeah, damn capcom for closing a studio after 3 unprofitable games in a row. I personally would give them another try but it's a business and it's in for profit.
Good fucking god, the buyer probably saw $1k and not a million.
Nice link, those cars however that they rebuilt were disgusting. Old bodies, poor range, poor performance, and poor price. The positive thing is it rules out remaking an old gas powered car into electrical. As many have suggested going for a more efficient gas or diesel car is your best bet.
Mistwalker Studios (which was bought by and published by Microsoft) is releasing one japanese rpg (Blue Dragon--which looks okay mind you not awesome, it's being hyped a great deal but it doesn't seem particulariy amazing when i see screenshots and possible gameplay). There was one more jrpg (the rest of the content is mostly american).
White Knight and FF's on the ps3 are more then enough to win the japanese and myself over (specially white knight). I am looking forward to the Lost Odyssey which should be released next year though. But i cannot imagine myself buying a whole system for one goddamn game I might like. I can for the ps3 though, free blu-ray player that cost less then a standalone player. I'm also a gran turismo freak so I can't imagine myself without a ps3.
The difference between HD feeds and DVD are as clear as night as day on my particular tv. I'm just not to impressed with first gen hd discs enough to shell out the money for em.
Two hundred dollars at launch... You can bet your ass that prices will drop on newer more bleeding edge components fastest. That includes the massive cell and blu-ray. It's going to be interesting to see how low prices for the ps3 will go next year. And the chances of my purchase may increase a few pct points (i'm guessing i won't get the thing for over a year till it drops).
Conroe is a leap in processor core design, AM2 is just a new motherboard and chipset design that utilized ddr2 ram. NO one I knew off expected massive performance gains. AMD was just going to the future supporting a newer ram standard that uses less power and had higher bandwidth potential.
.60nm or .45nm).
We didn't think AMD would equal much less beat conroe until their new processor core designs (K8L, etc) came out in a comparabble process size (
I'm not sure who exactly was surprised in the last two-three months. Hardcore amd fanboys that didn't pay attention to news or people who weren't reading up on what these two new things were (am2: same processor new chipset vs. massive new processor design that is conroe).
Currently itunes video's that i've downloaded were of atrocious video quality @dvd prices ($40ish for a full season of a series). Knowing that I'd get a DVD would be quite reasuring.
Amazon.com has me somewhat salvating. Prices are still decent but from the file specifications that quality might be much higher.
The ps3 is more difficult to program for and thus first generation games/ports may look worse then 1st gen games of other simpler systems when compared to their full potential.