'Cause that is what corps do. It's actually more effective than giving them a single vote. They frequently can get their own legislation introduced to congress. How would that be? To be able to write your own laws? The legislation doesn't always pass, but it does too often for my taste.
I like the idea of no campaign contributions from any entities not allowed to vote.
How about stop uploading copyright music illegally online for a solution? That would stop the lawsuits
How right you are! I have been advocating borrowing mp3 collections from friends borrowing cd's from the library and ripping them yourself. Much more reliable and the risk of a lawsuit is almost nil.
Well we all have that (those of us that share the alphabet). I always thought it deserved its own name, but what can you do. Besides, it looks more "Double V".
Personally piracy would go away as an issue if all illegal P2P pirates, were simply exiled from society
I would mod you up as funny, if I hadn't already posted on this discussion. Exile 60 million+ people! Good one! It'd be easier just to exile hollywood, though.
Even if they increased the quality 100x, people would still violate their copyrights.
Copyright is a system entirely supported by rule of law and the will of the people. If people no longer find value in supporting copyright, perhaps people aren't the problem.
I don't think you read my post so I will shout my point at you: COPYRIGHT HAS BECOME MEANINGLESS. YOU CANNOT SNEEZE WITHOUT VIOLATING COPYRIGHT. Copyright law treats all works equally. You only seem to think it applies if the work has commercial value. Guess what? Even though you posted anonymously, your post is under the full protection of copyright for 95 years! If you can tell me why that makes sense, then I will happily let you go back to your own little world.
Did you pay for it? No.
Do you now have it? Yes.
Did you take it without permission? Yes.
So anything you get for free is stealing. I can think of a lot of examples where this is not the case. Say I recorded a show off CBS. I would still answer the same to all three of your questions.
Hate you break you out of your little black and white world there, but when you talk about copyright it is just as infringing to forward an email without permission as it is to download a song, singing "Happy Birthday" in public is legally actionable and girl scouts pay a fee every year to sing campfire songs together. In the real copyright world it is just as infringing for me to make duplicates of my parents wedding pictures or to copy a photo out of my high school year book. In the real copyright world my four year olds scribbles are instantly copyrighted and her preschool teacher better have permission before she duplicates them. I bet you personally have infringed copyright hundreds of times in 2004, but because you disapprove of the way I do it, I'm a theif and a pirate.
Tell you what. If they come up with a copyright system that makes any sense, then I'll respect it.
Speeding... You go too fast - You get caught - You get a fine. That's awesome! Let's apply a similar model for file sharing.
File sharing... You share too many files - You get caught - You get a fine. Think of the possibilities:
Set an arbitrary limit. Say 100 files.
Set the fine at $10 for every 100 files over the limit.
You accumulate "points" when you get a file-sharing "ticket". Too many points and they take away your internet access.
I'd love to hear the conversation:
"Dude, I lost my internet access."
"Oh man! Why?"
"They caught me sharing 13,000 over. Now I have this HUGE fine, and I have to go to internet copyright school to get my DSL back."
Wouldn't free/open source software present the same problem? Do I purchase from vendor A for $100, vendor B for $10, or download the free alternative? Your argument would then seem to imply that FOSS is just as bad as piracy in killing innovation and small startups. Perhaps the flaws aren't with piracy, they're with copyright.
He didn't start out in Hollywood's pocket. As long as we continue allow campaign contributions by corporations, anyone we elect, Utah and elsewhere, is going to end up serving some or several corporate interests over their constituents'.
How is this any different from those cheap perfumes/colognes? "Compare to Obsession/Drakkar" Or Over the counter meds which say "Compare to the active ingredient in Advil"? They aren't claiming to be the radio station; they are saying they sound like them. Sounds like radio execs are upset because their whole business plan is so easily co-opted. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure you can't copyright a list of songs, or patent songs played in a certain order.
It did not expire, noobie. Otherwise all of these movies would also be Public Domain. A copyright expiration and a Creative Commons license are not the same thing.
Hey that's great! Thanks for pointing that out. My only quibble is that it doesn't look like the copyright expired. The rights holders instead intentionally elevated it to the public domain. Go Creative Commons! If I'm wrong, let me know.
Copyright applies pretty much the same for all creative expressions. The copyright on Night of the Living Dead won't expire until 2058. That is, unless there is another copyright extention. Which there probably will be.
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'Cause that is what corps do. It's actually more effective than giving them a single vote. They frequently can get their own legislation introduced to congress. How would that be? To be able to write your own laws? The legislation doesn't always pass, but it does too often for my taste.
I like the idea of no campaign contributions from any entities not allowed to vote.
How about stop uploading copyright music illegally online for a solution? That would stop the lawsuits
How right you are! I have been advocating borrowing mp3 collections from friends borrowing cd's from the library and ripping them yourself. Much more reliable and the risk of a lawsuit is almost nil.
if the Steamboat Willy copyright ran out.
... Which it never will.
The term "Maginot Line" has been used as a metaphor for something that is confidently relied upon despite being ineffectual.
Wow! That sounds remarkably like DRM!
Well we all have that (those of us that share the alphabet). I always thought it deserved its own name, but what can you do. Besides, it looks more "Double V".
"...AND IT IS PRONOUCED 'ZED' NOT 'ZEE', 'ZED'!!!"
Why add an extra consonant? Wow that would sound kind of silly if we treated all the letters that way.
Sing it with me! A BED CED DED ED F GED
H I J K L M N O PED
Q R S
TED U VED
W X, Y AND ZED.
You should try "hateful fear mongers in Washington, DC". The space between the two words make a big difference.
That was a beautiful post! Why'd you post annonymously?
Personally piracy would go away as an issue if all illegal P2P pirates, were simply exiled from society
I would mod you up as funny, if I hadn't already posted on this discussion. Exile 60 million+ people! Good one! It'd be easier just to exile hollywood, though.
Even if they increased the quality 100x, people would still violate their copyrights.
Copyright is a system entirely supported by rule of law and the will of the people. If people no longer find value in supporting copyright, perhaps people aren't the problem.
Any comparison between physical property and intellectual property will fail.
I don't think you read my post so I will shout my point at you: COPYRIGHT HAS BECOME MEANINGLESS. YOU CANNOT SNEEZE WITHOUT VIOLATING COPYRIGHT. Copyright law treats all works equally. You only seem to think it applies if the work has commercial value. Guess what? Even though you posted anonymously, your post is under the full protection of copyright for 95 years! If you can tell me why that makes sense, then I will happily let you go back to your own little world.
Did you pay for it? No.
Do you now have it? Yes.
Did you take it without permission? Yes.
So anything you get for free is stealing. I can think of a lot of examples where this is not the case. Say I recorded a show off CBS. I would still answer the same to all three of your questions.
Hate you break you out of your little black and white world there, but when you talk about copyright it is just as infringing to forward an email without permission as it is to download a song, singing "Happy Birthday" in public is legally actionable and girl scouts pay a fee every year to sing campfire songs together. In the real copyright world it is just as infringing for me to make duplicates of my parents wedding pictures or to copy a photo out of my high school year book. In the real copyright world my four year olds scribbles are instantly copyrighted and her preschool teacher better have permission before she duplicates them. I bet you personally have infringed copyright hundreds of times in 2004, but because you disapprove of the way I do it, I'm a theif and a pirate.
Tell you what. If they come up with a copyright system that makes any sense, then I'll respect it.
File sharing... You share too many files - You get caught - You get a fine. Think of the possibilities:
- Set an arbitrary limit. Say 100 files.
- Set the fine at $10 for every 100 files over the limit.
- You accumulate "points" when you get a file-sharing "ticket". Too many points and they take away your internet access.
I'd love to hear the conversation:"Dude, I lost my internet access."
"Oh man! Why?"
"They caught me sharing 13,000 over. Now I have this HUGE fine, and I have to go to internet copyright school to get my DSL back."
Are you kidding me? He was the one who failed to stop a nuclear attack on US soil! I wouldn't depend on him.
Wouldn't free/open source software present the same problem? Do I purchase from vendor A for $100, vendor B for $10, or download the free alternative? Your argument would then seem to imply that FOSS is just as bad as piracy in killing innovation and small startups. Perhaps the flaws aren't with piracy, they're with copyright.
He didn't start out in Hollywood's pocket. As long as we continue allow campaign contributions by corporations, anyone we elect, Utah and elsewhere, is going to end up serving some or several corporate interests over their constituents'.
How is this any different from those cheap perfumes/colognes? "Compare to Obsession/Drakkar" Or Over the counter meds which say "Compare to the active ingredient in Advil"? They aren't claiming to be the radio station; they are saying they sound like them. Sounds like radio execs are upset because their whole business plan is so easily co-opted. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure you can't copyright a list of songs, or patent songs played in a certain order.
The librarians have enlisted the help of Will Turner, a known pirate who is wanted for stealing a ship from Her Majesty's Navy.
Arrrr!!!
Thanks for the links. Always nice to learn something new.
It did not expire, noobie. Otherwise all of these movies would also be Public Domain. A copyright expiration and a Creative Commons license are not the same thing.
Hey that's great! Thanks for pointing that out. My only quibble is that it doesn't look like the copyright expired. The rights holders instead intentionally elevated it to the public domain. Go Creative Commons! If I'm wrong, let me know.
Copyright applies pretty much the same for all creative expressions. The copyright on Night of the Living Dead won't expire until 2058. That is, unless there is another copyright extention. Which there probably will be.
I sure hope those bolt cutters can prove signifigant non-infringing use.