SUN has a responsibilty to ensure that its users understand fully their rights and responsibilities when it comes to use of the software they are selling. They don't seem to mind flashing their own EULA in front of the user at install but the GPL which covers so much of the distribution is amazingly absent?
How about the fact that by adding conditions on use to GPL software, they may actually be breaking the Licence? rendering it void. Thus it now becomes a breach of copyright law to run the CD?
Or how about, SUN is trying to hide from the user the rights they have under the GPL regarding copying and distribution of GPL software?
I think you'll find that the reason so many people make comments about christians is that by and large the christian churches have held themselves up to be the image of piety and correctness, and yet time and time again they have proven to be less than perfect, sometimes down right criminal.
As to the bible, as a creation legend and a basis for society it does well enough, however, the bible really is full of contradictions, not the least between the old and the new testament, but even within the old testament there are many instances where if you try and examine them on a logical level, just do not work. Adam and Eve is one example, their kids is another.
Yes I am an athiest, yes I do believe in a persons right to worship as they please, and yes I do reserve the right to question a religious system which dominates the western world and much of africa with outmoded ideas that are quaint when viewed on their own but when taken so seriously by others can lead to needless tragedy and devastation.
I'll bite, the theory of evolution , while still being a theory has a hell of a lot of fossil evidence to back it up. We can trace different branches of the animal kingdom back through many stages.
The theory of creation has a book. A book written over two thousand years ago by men who had their own agenda when it came to scientific facts.
As soon as you find the Garden Of Eden and can point out exactly which patch of dirt was used in creating Adam and Eve I am sold.
The real problem here is not with Linux, or even the Distro producers, it is with the Hardware manufacturers. If they don't release drivers for their hardware then the community has to build them themselves based on guess work and reverse engineering the hardware.
I don't doubt that people will disobey laws if they feel that are unjust, I am just saying that if you set out to break a law you have to expect that the punishment will follow. You can't say "I don't like this law so I'm not going to follow it and you can't punish me."
The system and the people are a symbiotic relationship. Without people the system is useless and people can't live without some sort of system, it's in built. Humanity was, is and always be tribal.
So where would you say rights flow from? They differ from culture to culture.
As for your second point, could it be they are driving recklessly because they are chasing some idiot who thinks its alright to go 100 kph in a school zone?
The purpose of law is to tell people what not to do based on the society of the day. It is also there to protect people from themselves. Now this is can be problematic at times and downright stupid at times but thats the way a society works.
Copyright, properly administered is there to help promote innovation in the arts and sciences. To ensure that the original innovators have the right to use their works as they wish, whether it is to put into the public domain or charge through the roof. However when it is abused thats when things get ugly. Reform is what we need, not throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Wow you managed to combine ignorance of law with condesencion towards the rest of the world in one comment, I am impressed.
People do not have the right to disobey the law (edicts of government) and expect to get away with it. If they did then why the fuck bother having laws in the first place. If you disagree with a law, either work to have it changed or ignore it but if you pick the second option the expect to be punished as per the rules set out.
Copyrights are a right assigned by law. Properly administered they can foster innovation in both the arts and sciences. However the current regime of life + 80 years is blatantly too long.
As for your last comment regarding the foriegner, guess what, other countries get saddled with your movies as well and don't have to travel all the way to the US just to say they saw a US movie. Christ, Indias film industry is much larger than the US industry.
Im sorry I must have missed the bit in the US constitution that says people have the inalienable right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and to drive like a fuck wit.
Cars are a luxury, and a dangerous one at that. A tons worth of metal and plastic travelling at speed is going to be regulated, just to try and prevent fuck knuckles who think that because they are behind a wheel they are some kind of god.
Im sorry but FRONTPAGE? That putrid pile of pustulent Lepper shit?
Visual Studio.net is an all purpose IDE, WMV files can easily be generated on Linux(mencoder does it quite well) and Perl and PHP, two of the best web languages are native to Linux as opposed to having to be ported to the MS platform.
Web Development is one area where MS doesn't own the whole barrel. Many developers I know prefer to use a text editor such as Vi or Emacs over the crud that gets put out by the WYSIWIG systems.
Umm comparing the install time for Windows against a source based distro is misleading to say the least. Now if you had compared installing Windows vs say RedHat or Mandrake or even SUSE then you might have noticed that the install times would have evened up.
Oh grow up. Most users are not the Uber geeks that we all pretend to be. Hell most users can barely switch on the bloody machine in the first place. If you are building a piece of software to scratch your own itch then fine, document it any way you want, but if you are aiming for acceptance from the general public then you have to aim for their level. Acting like a spoilt little shit is not going to get you anywhere.
Goddamn it I misspelled words, oh woe is me and all that.
If I had written this in MS Word, the GUI would have made a call to underlying libraries to check the word as I typed. The GUI itself would have then translated the instructions it had recieved from said libraries and presented the user with the result.
This is what I am talking about, I am not arguing that GUIs are not important or that translating GUI instructions into command line calls is better than direct library calls, I am saying that the GUI is and always will be an interface, a front end for the underlying code.
GUI: Graphical User Interface
Interface: A method of communicating instructions from one are to another.
Oh look its a front end.
A GUI's job is to present the information to the user and to recieve the instructions, that is it. Nothing more, nothing less. The concept that a GUI needs to be completely bound with the operating kernel of and OS is dangerous and stupid.
wow. a/. reader that doesn't just have a gf, but has a wife and kid. cool:)
Hell this is my second marriage and I have two kids:)
Wet nurses have been around for hundreds of years, however today they are a very rare commodity, especially in western society. Certainly not enough to meet the demand of the mothers who cannot produce enough milk of their own.
Just on the issue of breast feeding vs bottle feeding, some women are unable to breast feed due to either in-adequate milk production or other problems. For these women(my wife being one of them) knowing that the formula they HAVE to feed to their babies is as close to breast milk as possible would be a good thing.
That being said I do not agree with open field growth of GM crops for the reasons that you point out, too much danger of cross polination and the big chance that non GM crops will not be able to compete.
"Out on the patio, we sit.
And the humidity we sip
Watching SCO burn like the dogs they are
This is Australia"
Yes I know it doesn't parse but hell its late and I've been dealing with users all day who insist on infecting their machines with f**king netsky!
The problem as I see it(being an outsider and all) is that on many issues it really is quite hard to tell the parties apart. The DMCA was introduced under the Democrats as was the copyright extension. Both of which are pieces of legislation that attract a lot of ire both on this forum and others.
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SUN has a responsibilty to ensure that its users understand fully their rights and responsibilities when it comes to use of the software they are selling. They don't seem to mind flashing their own EULA in front of the user at install but the GPL which covers so much of the distribution is amazingly absent?
How about the fact that by adding conditions on use to GPL software, they may actually be breaking the Licence? rendering it void. Thus it now becomes a breach of copyright law to run the CD?
Or how about, SUN is trying to hide from the user the rights they have under the GPL regarding copying and distribution of GPL software?
I think you'll find that the reason so many people make comments about christians is that by and large the christian churches have held themselves up to be the image of piety and correctness, and yet time and time again they have proven to be less than perfect, sometimes down right criminal.
As to the bible, as a creation legend and a basis for society it does well enough, however, the bible really is full of contradictions, not the least between the old and the new testament, but even within the old testament there are many instances where if you try and examine them on a logical level, just do not work. Adam and Eve is one example, their kids is another.
Yes I am an athiest, yes I do believe in a persons right to worship as they please, and yes I do reserve the right to question a religious system which dominates the western world and much of africa with outmoded ideas that are quaint when viewed on their own but when taken so seriously by others can lead to needless tragedy and devastation.
I'll bite, the theory of evolution , while still being a theory has a hell of a lot of fossil evidence to back it up. We can trace different branches of the animal kingdom back through many stages.
The theory of creation has a book. A book written over two thousand years ago by men who had their own agenda when it came to scientific facts.
As soon as you find the Garden Of Eden and can point out exactly which patch of dirt was used in creating Adam and Eve I am sold.
The real problem here is not with Linux, or even the Distro producers, it is with the Hardware manufacturers. If they don't release drivers for their hardware then the community has to build them themselves based on guess work and reverse engineering the hardware.
I personally think that holding the atmosphere in is the most important thing gravity could be doing, but hey thats just me.
And yes I am aware the magnetic fields have a lot to do with it.
I don't doubt that people will disobey laws if they feel that are unjust, I am just saying that if you set out to break a law you have to expect that the punishment will follow. You can't say "I don't like this law so I'm not going to follow it and you can't punish me."
The system and the people are a symbiotic relationship. Without people the system is useless and people can't live without some sort of system, it's in built. Humanity was, is and always be tribal.
So where would you say rights flow from? They differ from culture to culture.
As for your second point, could it be they are driving recklessly because they are chasing some idiot who thinks its alright to go 100 kph in a school zone?
The purpose of law is to tell people what not to do based on the society of the day. It is also there to protect people from themselves. Now this is can be problematic at times and downright stupid at times but thats the way a society works.
Copyright, properly administered is there to help promote innovation in the arts and sciences. To ensure that the original innovators have the right to use their works as they wish, whether it is to put into the public domain or charge through the roof. However when it is abused thats when things get ugly. Reform is what we need, not throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Wow you managed to combine ignorance of law with condesencion towards the rest of the world in one comment, I am impressed.
People do not have the right to disobey the law (edicts of government) and expect to get away with it. If they did then why the fuck bother having laws in the first place. If you disagree with a law, either work to have it changed or ignore it but if you pick the second option the expect to be punished as per the rules set out.
Copyrights are a right assigned by law. Properly administered they can foster innovation in both the arts and sciences. However the current regime of life + 80 years is blatantly too long.
As for your last comment regarding the foriegner, guess what, other countries get saddled with your movies as well and don't have to travel all the way to the US just to say they saw a US movie. Christ, Indias film industry is much larger than the US industry.
Im sorry I must have missed the bit in the US constitution that says people have the inalienable right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and to drive like a fuck wit.
Cars are a luxury, and a dangerous one at that. A tons worth of metal and plastic travelling at speed is going to be regulated, just to try and prevent fuck knuckles who think that because they are behind a wheel they are some kind of god.
Im sorry but FRONTPAGE? That putrid pile of pustulent Lepper shit?
Visual Studio.net is an all purpose IDE, WMV files can easily be generated on Linux(mencoder does it quite well) and Perl and PHP, two of the best web languages are native to Linux as opposed to having to be ported to the MS platform.
Web Development is one area where MS doesn't own the whole barrel. Many developers I know prefer to use a text editor such as Vi or Emacs over the crud that gets put out by the WYSIWIG systems.
Umm comparing the install time for Windows against a source based distro is misleading to say the least. Now if you had compared installing Windows vs say RedHat or Mandrake or even SUSE then you might have noticed that the install times would have evened up.
Oh grow up. Most users are not the Uber geeks that we all pretend to be. Hell most users can barely switch on the bloody machine in the first place. If you are building a piece of software to scratch your own itch then fine, document it any way you want, but if you are aiming for acceptance from the general public then you have to aim for their level. Acting like a spoilt little shit is not going to get you anywhere.
a nice and open/free development environment, which is stable, cross-platform, fast,
EMACS
Goddamn it I misspelled words, oh woe is me and all that.
If I had written this in MS Word, the GUI would have made a call to underlying libraries to check the word as I typed. The GUI itself would have then translated the instructions it had recieved from said libraries and presented the user with the result.
This is what I am talking about, I am not arguing that GUIs are not important or that translating GUI instructions into command line calls is better than direct library calls, I am saying that the GUI is and always will be an interface, a front end for the underlying code.
Okay I'll bite
GUI: Graphical User Interface
Interface: A method of communicating instructions from one are to another.
Oh look its a front end.
A GUI's job is to present the information to the user and to recieve the instructions, that is it. Nothing more, nothing less. The concept that a GUI needs to be completely bound with the operating kernel of and OS is dangerous and stupid.
wow. a /. reader that doesn't just have a gf, but has a wife and kid. cool :)
:)
Hell this is my second marriage and I have two kids
Wet nurses have been around for hundreds of years, however today they are a very rare commodity, especially in western society. Certainly not enough to meet the demand of the mothers who cannot produce enough milk of their own.
This is not an issue of free-speech. This is an issue of breach of contract, if not the letter but the spirit.
Free speech does not extend to knowingly making fraudulant claims.
Just on the issue of breast feeding vs bottle feeding, some women are unable to breast feed due to either in-adequate milk production or other problems. For these women(my wife being one of them) knowing that the formula they HAVE to feed to their babies is as close to breast milk as possible would be a good thing.
That being said I do not agree with open field growth of GM crops for the reasons that you point out, too much danger of cross polination and the big chance that non GM crops will not be able to compete.
Sorry I think you might want to check out Latham at the moment. Howard is running pretty ragged on a number of issues including security and defence.
"Out on the patio, we sit.
And the humidity we sip Watching SCO burn like the dogs they are
This is Australia"
Yes I know it doesn't parse but hell its late and I've been dealing with users all day who insist on infecting their machines with f**king netsky!
The problem as I see it(being an outsider and all) is that on many issues it really is quite hard to tell the parties apart. The DMCA was introduced under the Democrats as was the copyright extension. Both of which are pieces of legislation that attract a lot of ire both on this forum and others.
Jesus fucking christ, give it a break, the greens didn't lose the election for the dems last time, crooked fucking officials did.
Sheesh I am sick and tired of people rousting on others for excercising the right to vote for whoever the fuck they like.
It's a point of reference for the plebs. That's all, nothing more. Logic has nothing to do with it.