I'm somewhat tired of these silly theories of everything thought up by pseudo-intellectuals by piling theories on top of theories.
and then in the end someone will ask, where do strings come from? And you'll work out another 10 theories to figure that out, only until someone asks where whatever that came from as well.
whether you put the blame on silly self-serving religious ideals or theorised theories of theories, I'll pick the third option: sun god.
Oh wait.
so yeah go prove superstrings or whatever. I still think the string theory is a big load of shit made up by people who idolize Einstein a little too much...maybe if these people thought for themselves they could see the obvious truth to things.
I don't care if linux ever really makes it to the desktop. To me, linux making it to the desktop just means more newbs asking stupid questions.
Maybe I sound a bit bitter but I just really would rather linux be for nerds by nerds kind of thing. This might prevent it from ever getting mass support from proprietary software/hardware makers but WHO CARES? I'd rather be using open source software (or standards atleast) anyway. And I know perfectly well that any linux box can be set up with some super easy interface with big desktop icons and font size 14, that's fine as long as someone takes care of that box for that person, but if not, it's basically useless trying to get some people to catch on. Keyword some, I've had people catch on quick, but not everyone is going to.
So in the end, I don't really care. Let people suffer the cruel fate of microsoft windows. I probably should make a comment about apple as well but I'd rather not see money going to either of these giant corporations.
This reminds me of one of my favorite fortunes: Beware of altruism. It is based on self-deception, the root of all evil.
All progress is made from bits and pieces of previous experience which lead up to current progress. That's why there's never any giant leaps, that's why we didn't have some guy 10 years ago miraculously come up with a 3ghz processor. It's why we didn't have rock and roll in the 1600s. All past innovation leads up to current achievements.
Pointing fingers and complaining about who's copying who is not only non-productive but it is the same mindset which leads to all this IP mess that we're currently in.
So to you Mr.Jobs, get off your high horse. They didn't copy the wheel just because your latest car has one. It took that wheel to get you there, do not disrespect that wheel.
I'm not trying to defend microsoft or apple. I hate everything equally.
Isn't calling these game and music drivers a bit misleading, and a bit discrediting at that? It's not like those things don't have their own group of developers taking care of them. It's not as if the alsa guys are stealing kernel developers away from their precious stable-code-writing-tasks, or anything.
As for video drivers...well if you're any bit of a serious gamer on linux and using one of the latest cards this most likely means you're using the ATI or nvidia closed source drivers, which again is not exactly relevant to any work that the lead kernel developers are probably doing...
It seems like this guy is completely clueless and is just making a big fuss over nothing. Or maybe they're just bitter that their favorite feature didn't get into the kernel but a new sound driver did? Hrmm...
sounds like moon dust has similar properties to asbestos. So small that it gets stuck in lungs and such...I have no idea if it's as resilient as asbestos is though...any clues?
No it wouldn't mean linux is a joke if that happened, it'd mean redhat or whoever did it was a joke. But this isn't fair, the closed parts of OSX are a little more than "just" a DE.
just because I don't think apple's source code openness is satisfactory to be considered open source doesn't mean I'm right or wrong.
Sure, there probably would be plenty of instances where microsoft could open code up and what not, but I'm not even going to debate that because you completely missed the point I was trying to make by even saying this. It was a comparative type of thing, but you took it literally.
They don't have to be selling linux specifically that isn't the point I just used it as an example. Darwin is just a joke, they open source a tiny piece of their operating system, and keep the important parts to themselves. Like how many people out there are running darwin alone without OS X on top, other than hand countable amounts which aren't being used seriously. To me, Mac OS X is not open source at all. It's as open source as if microsoft were to open source some tiny ass piece of windows code from the bowels of hell and all of the sudden the windows community starts claiming microsoft is god and helpful to OSS...because of course that's the equivalent of what your average apple fanboy on here does.
I didn't say I cared about binary compatibility I was just trying to figure out what the hell you were talking about.
I doubt linux will ever take off like mac osx or windows but that isn't my problem.
increasing compatibility between unix-like systems? Yeah, in favor of apple maybe. That only helps apple in this case, not linux. As it's apple who's getting a free ride of applications by helping themselves to whatever selection they choose as long as the codes there to make it run on their semi-proprietary system, which is, of course, most of what apples so called contributions really are made towards.
there's a huge difference between ibm novell and redhat and that is they are all selling (or promoting) linux. whereas apple is doing nothing of the sort.
what's compatibility in the real world anyway? Not binary compatibility obviously. Office suite compatibility? Not like apple is doing anything there anyway, I'd look more towards the openoffice guys for that.
Contrary to the popular belief, that might hurt linux.
What makes you think apple and linux go together? What even makes you think apple is helping linux? If you say apple.com/opensource I'm going to throw a minimac at your face.
Apple is just a company out to make money like any other company, they'll help open source out only if it benefits themselves more. Don't confuse apple for a company that is good. They are microsoft in pretty clothing. Embrace and extend indeed.
I think you've been believing the slashdot fanboys a little too much.
I don't personally own an H320 but a few relatives do (after I convinced them to get one of course) and I love those things.
but sometimes I forget this is slashdot where apple reigns supreme. might as well just rename this site to appledot with the amount of apple fanboys that come here.
I can't believe anyone uses ANY of these services. When I saw napster coming out I could only think "what a joke, people using napsters name to make money off something irrelevant to it" and figured it would be quickly and quietly rejected. I figured iTMS would suffer the same fate. Boy was I wrong.
Now there's people on here debating between the two! Here's a word of advice people.
STOP BUYING THIS SHIT.
Why are you supporting this? THIS IS DRM! This is the RIAA-sponsored computer takeover everyone complained about! What is wrong with you people?
P2P isn't dead yet anyway.
I repeat. STOP BUYING THIS SHIT. EVERYONE. For your own good. And while you're at it stop watching MTV. I thought this is news for nerds? If I wanted to news for typical american followers I wouldn't have came here.
I saw these things on one of those home shows a while back, it was either hometime or something on the DIY channel....the model they had was basically a reflective tube with a opaque lens at the bottom, it also had a lightbulb in it so it acts like a normal light when there's no sun out...it was kinda neat because it pretty much just looks like a normal light fixture, and works just like one when the sun isn't out.
not so sure about the fashion part (though I guess lack of hygiene might count) but other than that, yeah pretty much. I got modded down troll twice for that post! And I wasn't even trolling. Wow, just wow. I have an idea.
HEY APPLE LOVERS MOD ME DOWN, I DON'T LIKE YOUR FAVORITE COMPANY.
even though what you say is pretty much true (though I doubt ALL volkswagon owners are brainless fashion followers) you'll be modded down simply because you said something about apple that isn't highlighting them in a positive manner.
what a crock indeed.
there's even companies that sell hardware MP3 players that integrate into the cars existing stereo, so you can for example, use the cars existing radio and (and steering wheel on cars that have them) volume/track controls.
http://www.densionusa.com/x/index.php is such a company. Though they also make things to link iPods to your car...Still, their kits start at $399 for their DMP3 hard drive player and for car specific integration stuff, it's about $500. So the same as an mac mini for a complete mp3 hard drive control system that integrates with your car radios existing controls. Pricey but to be honest I'd rather spend the money on that than giving my money to apple...
I have the wireless version of that mouse (also not made anymore) and it was pretty nice. Once I got into FPS I stopped using it though. Trackballs are a gamers worst nightmare. I also have a kensington expert mouse, which is by far the hugest trackball ever. Both were fun to use, but I don't have any wrist problems or nothing...I just liked trackballs. I currently use a logitech mx300.
I've been saying this for a long time. Apple and Microsoft are just as bad as each other. Both have the same intentions: make money, lots of it. They are companies. They don't really care about our rights, or any of the other issues most of us open source guys care about. They care about their own primary interest.
Gone are the days of hippy hackers in a garage. Apple is not the company it was when it started. The only difference now between apple and microsoft is the fact that microsoft won the race. And you can say they cheated to get there, but apple was playing the same game. And they lost.
So what now? They're still struggling to get the dominance they always wanted. It's no different from the past. They are a company with interests: MONEY.
People don't seem to get that apple really has no incentive to help people, open source, etc. And typically don't do anything that doesn't directly benefit them anyway. What else do you expect though? They are not going to be the ones opening patents for open source use. Novell and IBM? Maybe. Apple? No. Apple has too much self-interest. From it's propaganda-created following to it's media partnerships, apple is just another monopoly that can only hurt us in the end.
really? Everytime I use one of those ergonomic keyboards I find my wrists hurt more because I end up using the wrist rest too much...I use a buckling spring keyboard.
I tend to agree with you, recently the only games I've even been considering purchasing have been ID games, particularly because I respect ID, and their policies. The linux support is the icing on the cake...it's hard when you don't have much money to spare though.
I don't think a slashdot article has pissed me off this much in a while, particularly some of these comments. What kind of excuse is burning a cd to get around the DRM restrictions? If you have say, 300 mp3s from the store, you know how many CD's you'd have to burn just to get those on your mp3 player? Say 20 songs per cd that's 15 cds. That's ridiculous.
Of course a virtual-cd type thing or simply using hymn to bypass the DRM works fine, but oh no then you're violating the dmca! And your average user will never figure that out anyway.
Yeah, apple made itunes to go with their ipod, and locks users in, blah blah, but your average user doesn't know this shit, sees their friends or what not using iTunes, uses it as well, and knows no better than to shell out cash on blank cd-rs just so they can rip to mp3 and put em on their mp3 player...and while apple doesn't have to support people using songs bought from their store on alternative players, what do they expect?
I wholeheartedly agree with this lawsuit, and seriously, fuck all you apple trolls on here. Karma be damned, you people are so full of apple's bullshit you probably piss apple juice...
I had to help 2 people so far undo iTunes-related-damage so they could use their music on a third party player, and after I'm done I uninstall iTunes and install your-favorite-p2p software. I don't have time for this bullshit, and most people would rather put up with getting the occasional bad track then having to figure out how to get rid of the DRM on their iTunes songs...
copyright can go to hell for all I'm concerned, why should I have to put up with this corporate bullshit just to be able to have some freedom of choice? Use another store? Yeah, what store has as much as iTunes? Oh, that's right, none of them, except oh say, gnutella, kazaa, etc, etc.....
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I'm somewhat tired of these silly theories of everything thought up by pseudo-intellectuals by piling theories on top of theories.
and then in the end someone will ask, where do strings come from? And you'll work out another 10 theories to figure that out, only until someone asks where whatever that came from as well.
whether you put the blame on silly self-serving religious ideals or theorised theories of theories, I'll pick the third option: sun god.
Oh wait.
so yeah go prove superstrings or whatever. I still think the string theory is a big load of shit made up by people who idolize Einstein a little too much...maybe if these people thought for themselves they could see the obvious truth to things.
I don't care if linux ever really makes it to the desktop. To me, linux making it to the desktop just means more newbs asking stupid questions.
Maybe I sound a bit bitter but I just really would rather linux be for nerds by nerds kind of thing. This might prevent it from ever getting mass support from proprietary software/hardware makers but WHO CARES? I'd rather be using open source software (or standards atleast) anyway. And I know perfectly well that any linux box can be set up with some super easy interface with big desktop icons and font size 14, that's fine as long as someone takes care of that box for that person, but if not, it's basically useless trying to get some people to catch on. Keyword some, I've had people catch on quick, but not everyone is going to.
So in the end, I don't really care. Let people suffer the cruel fate of microsoft windows. I probably should make a comment about apple as well but I'd rather not see money going to either of these giant corporations.
This reminds me of one of my favorite fortunes:
Beware of altruism. It is based on self-deception, the root of all evil.
All progress is made from bits and pieces of previous experience which lead up to current progress. That's why there's never any giant leaps, that's why we didn't have some guy 10 years ago miraculously come up with a 3ghz processor. It's why we didn't have rock and roll in the 1600s. All past innovation leads up to current achievements.
Pointing fingers and complaining about who's copying who is not only non-productive but it is the same mindset which leads to all this IP mess that we're currently in.
So to you Mr.Jobs, get off your high horse. They didn't copy the wheel just because your latest car has one. It took that wheel to get you there, do not disrespect that wheel.
I'm not trying to defend microsoft or apple. I hate everything equally.
What exactly are game and music drivers?
like, maybe for instance sound and video drivers?
Isn't calling these game and music drivers a bit misleading, and a bit discrediting at that? It's not like those things don't have their own group of developers taking care of them. It's not as if the alsa guys are stealing kernel developers away from their precious stable-code-writing-tasks, or anything.
As for video drivers...well if you're any bit of a serious gamer on linux and using one of the latest cards this most likely means you're using the ATI or nvidia closed source drivers, which again is not exactly relevant to any work that the lead kernel developers are probably doing...
It seems like this guy is completely clueless and is just making a big fuss over nothing. Or maybe they're just bitter that their favorite feature didn't get into the kernel but a new sound driver did? Hrmm...
AFAIK, this is incorrect. I was disctinctly under the impression a white LED is created by using a special coating on a blue led.
busted people creating this stuff = good
busting people who accidentally downloaded shit off kazaa/gnutella/etc = bad
why do I have a feeling this might end up doing more of the latter?
sounds like moon dust has similar properties to asbestos. So small that it gets stuck in lungs and such...I have no idea if it's as resilient as asbestos is though...any clues?
No it wouldn't mean linux is a joke if that happened, it'd mean redhat or whoever did it was a joke. But this isn't fair, the closed parts of OSX are a little more than "just" a DE.
just because I don't think apple's source code openness is satisfactory to be considered open source doesn't mean I'm right or wrong.
Sure, there probably would be plenty of instances where microsoft could open code up and what not, but I'm not even going to debate that because you completely missed the point I was trying to make by even saying this. It was a comparative type of thing, but you took it literally.
They don't have to be selling linux specifically that isn't the point I just used it as an example. Darwin is just a joke, they open source a tiny piece of their operating system, and keep the important parts to themselves. Like how many people out there are running darwin alone without OS X on top, other than hand countable amounts which aren't being used seriously. To me, Mac OS X is not open source at all. It's as open source as if microsoft were to open source some tiny ass piece of windows code from the bowels of hell and all of the sudden the windows community starts claiming microsoft is god and helpful to OSS...because of course that's the equivalent of what your average apple fanboy on here does.
I didn't say I cared about binary compatibility I was just trying to figure out what the hell you were talking about.
traitor!
I think you're taking my nick a little too seriously.
I doubt linux will ever take off like mac osx or windows but that isn't my problem.
increasing compatibility between unix-like systems? Yeah, in favor of apple maybe. That only helps apple in this case, not linux. As it's apple who's getting a free ride of applications by helping themselves to whatever selection they choose as long as the codes there to make it run on their semi-proprietary system, which is, of course, most of what apples so called contributions really are made towards.
there's a huge difference between ibm novell and redhat and that is they are all selling (or promoting) linux. whereas apple is doing nothing of the sort.
what's compatibility in the real world anyway? Not binary compatibility obviously. Office suite compatibility? Not like apple is doing anything there anyway, I'd look more towards the openoffice guys for that.
Contrary to the popular belief, that might hurt linux.
What makes you think apple and linux go together? What even makes you think apple is helping linux? If you say apple.com/opensource I'm going to throw a minimac at your face.
Apple is just a company out to make money like any other company, they'll help open source out only if it benefits themselves more. Don't confuse apple for a company that is good. They are microsoft in pretty clothing. Embrace and extend indeed.
I think you've been believing the slashdot fanboys a little too much.
I'm with you on this one.
I don't personally own an H320 but a few relatives do (after I convinced them to get one of course) and I love those things.
but sometimes I forget this is slashdot where apple reigns supreme. might as well just rename this site to appledot with the amount of apple fanboys that come here.
I can't believe anyone uses ANY of these services. When I saw napster coming out I could only think "what a joke, people using napsters name to make money off something irrelevant to it" and figured it would be quickly and quietly rejected. I figured iTMS would suffer the same fate. Boy was I wrong.
Now there's people on here debating between the two! Here's a word of advice people.
STOP BUYING THIS SHIT.
Why are you supporting this? THIS IS DRM! This is the RIAA-sponsored computer takeover everyone complained about! What is wrong with you people?
P2P isn't dead yet anyway.
I repeat. STOP BUYING THIS SHIT. EVERYONE. For your own good. And while you're at it stop watching MTV. I thought this is news for nerds? If I wanted to news for typical american followers I wouldn't have came here.
I saw these things on one of those home shows a while back, it was either hometime or something on the DIY channel....the model they had was basically a reflective tube with a opaque lens at the bottom, it also had a lightbulb in it so it acts like a normal light when there's no sun out...it was kinda neat because it pretty much just looks like a normal light fixture, and works just like one when the sun isn't out.
I believe if you use SSH with pam you might be able to use pam to do chrooting, but I've never actually tried it.
not so sure about the fashion part (though I guess lack of hygiene might count) but other than that, yeah pretty much. I got modded down troll twice for that post! And I wasn't even trolling. Wow, just wow. I have an idea.
HEY APPLE LOVERS MOD ME DOWN, I DON'T LIKE YOUR FAVORITE COMPANY.
let's wait until the REAL trolls bite.
even though what you say is pretty much true (though I doubt ALL volkswagon owners are brainless fashion followers) you'll be modded down simply because you said something about apple that isn't highlighting them in a positive manner.
what a crock indeed.
there's even companies that sell hardware MP3 players that integrate into the cars existing stereo, so you can for example, use the cars existing radio and (and steering wheel on cars that have them) volume/track controls.
http://www.densionusa.com/x/index.php is such a company. Though they also make things to link iPods to your car...Still, their kits start at $399 for their DMP3 hard drive player and for car specific integration stuff, it's about $500. So the same as an mac mini for a complete mp3 hard drive control system that integrates with your car radios existing controls. Pricey but to be honest I'd rather spend the money on that than giving my money to apple...
I have the wireless version of that mouse (also not made anymore) and it was pretty nice. Once I got into FPS I stopped using it though. Trackballs are a gamers worst nightmare. I also have a kensington expert mouse, which is by far the hugest trackball ever. Both were fun to use, but I don't have any wrist problems or nothing...I just liked trackballs. I currently use a logitech mx300.
I've been saying this for a long time. Apple and Microsoft are just as bad as each other. Both have the same intentions: make money, lots of it. They are companies. They don't really care about our rights, or any of the other issues most of us open source guys care about. They care about their own primary interest.
Gone are the days of hippy hackers in a garage. Apple is not the company it was when it started. The only difference now between apple and microsoft is the fact that microsoft won the race. And you can say they cheated to get there, but apple was playing the same game. And they lost.
So what now? They're still struggling to get the dominance they always wanted. It's no different from the past. They are a company with interests: MONEY.
People don't seem to get that apple really has no incentive to help people, open source, etc. And typically don't do anything that doesn't directly benefit them anyway. What else do you expect though? They are not going to be the ones opening patents for open source use. Novell and IBM? Maybe. Apple? No. Apple has too much self-interest. From it's propaganda-created following to it's media partnerships, apple is just another monopoly that can only hurt us in the end.
It's not a bug, it's a feature!
I presume that will be microsoft's response when you ask them to pay up.
really? Everytime I use one of those ergonomic keyboards I find my wrists hurt more because I end up using the wrist rest too much...I use a buckling spring keyboard.
I tend to agree with you, recently the only games I've even been considering purchasing have been ID games, particularly because I respect ID, and their policies. The linux support is the icing on the cake...it's hard when you don't have much money to spare though.
I don't think a slashdot article has pissed me off this much in a while, particularly some of these comments. What kind of excuse is burning a cd to get around the DRM restrictions? If you have say, 300 mp3s from the store, you know how many CD's you'd have to burn just to get those on your mp3 player? Say 20 songs per cd that's 15 cds. That's ridiculous.
Of course a virtual-cd type thing or simply using hymn to bypass the DRM works fine, but oh no then you're violating the dmca! And your average user will never figure that out anyway.
Yeah, apple made itunes to go with their ipod, and locks users in, blah blah, but your average user doesn't know this shit, sees their friends or what not using iTunes, uses it as well, and knows no better than to shell out cash on blank cd-rs just so they can rip to mp3 and put em on their mp3 player...and while apple doesn't have to support people using songs bought from their store on alternative players, what do they expect?
I wholeheartedly agree with this lawsuit, and seriously, fuck all you apple trolls on here. Karma be damned, you people are so full of apple's bullshit you probably piss apple juice...
I had to help 2 people so far undo iTunes-related-damage so they could use their music on a third party player, and after I'm done I uninstall iTunes and install your-favorite-p2p software. I don't have time for this bullshit, and most people would rather put up with getting the occasional bad track then having to figure out how to get rid of the DRM on their iTunes songs...
copyright can go to hell for all I'm concerned, why should I have to put up with this corporate bullshit just to be able to have some freedom of choice? Use another store? Yeah, what store has as much as iTunes? Oh, that's right, none of them, except oh say, gnutella, kazaa, etc, etc.....
i'm somewhat FED up with all these reports of new monitor technologies yet not of it is actually yet usable or affordable to the consumer.