If you just want people to have access to the code for review then you don't need to opensource it at all. Then you can keep working on the code without people taking you're work and doing their own stuff with it (well not legally anyway).
Surely the whole point of opensourcing is to get input from other people. This may well include things that you don't need. The linux kernel has many patches and some projects spend a lot of time as kernel patch before they are ever added, if indeed at all, as standard.
As for forking, if you look around it doesn't seem to take place all that often. People who want their own product will usually want to start from scratch. Forks generally only take place when a very real difference emerges between the two possible paths. Of course youre software has to be really usefull first for this to happen.
But really the point is what do you wanna do? If you just wanna code and not be bothered by pesky outsiders wanting bug fixes for their crappy systems (Extreme 1) then perhaps you should just put youre code on a page and a note of good luck. Then again you may feel that two heads know more then one and you are looking forward to closing working with other developers to great together a brilliant product (Extreme 2). Decide on how you wanna run the project and then decide the appropriate license. Open source is a means, not an end.
Ever heard of lease lines? Very few script kiddies want to get their hands dirty to dig up telephone lines to crack some webserver. Many way's exist to connect to a remote machine that are not the internet and can only be hacked by physical means, not by some script kiddie on another continent.
As for multiple read heads? The way I read this they got two heads on one arm, so no speed improvement. Sorta like the eraser head on a tape recorder.
Now say that the webserver is in a hosten enviroment? Or that you need more data? Or you want to update say 4 times per day? It keeps amazing me how short sighted people on/. are. Just because they can't see the use for something it must therefore be useless. (sorry this is not aimed at you personally. The reaction to this story just is getting me pissed.)
Most crackers are not very determined. A recent honey trap showed that most attacks tried to exploit holes in IIS security. Only slight problem was that the trap ran on a linux box. Had they done the most basic check they would have known the OS and known that all their tools where useless. Yes a hacker would be able to get in but hackers don't bother with youre average website. Script kiddies on the other hand do. If they are turned off then you are safe.
You haven't read it have you? Mounting the disk read only makes the drive ehm, readonly.
This drive can used in readonly and readwrite AT THE SAME TIME!. 1 machine only reads, other machine readwrites. Yes of course you're solution works but having to switch the mount every time you want an update would be a pain. This solves both.
The trick for smaller websites is how to secure their content. The common problem is that a webserver and a content machine have radically different approaches to security. A solution often used now is to put the content on some kind of un writable media. But that is extremely labor intensief and so can't be used when content changes often. This drive could fix it all in one shot. 1 machine for the webserver. This needs only the most basic of security setups since it needs not be accesible outside HTTP. Buffer overflows are very small problems of course since you will patch the moment the warning is out and you of course have patches and instant warnings since you use apache.
The content machine on the other hand can be fortified to the hilt since that its only task is to supplie a secure way in. It doesn't listen on port 80 and in fact it could be placed on a seperate net or even a simple direct line setup.
Unless I am very much mistaken you have just taken care of almost all script kiddies attacks, lets face it most of these attacks are extremely lame, except for (D)DOS but then again very little works against that. I really would like one of these disks.
Irak could use it. At the flip of the switch it would turn into war colors and at the first sign of any americans turn white again.
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They liked pine.
Wow.
For years everyone has been trying to create the fisherprize OS TM and here the suits favor PINE! Granted I use elm myself since ehm, eh that is the one I grew up with, but the idea is the same.
I guess this puts to rest all those lamers who keep shouting that linux should be more userfriendly. The suits don't want that, they want functionality like apparently powerfull search over eye candy or even buttons.
This has really made my day and I will keep trying to get my company to allow my linux elm to connect to its servers. Thanks forbes
BTW with suits here I mean people who are not technical but who do have a brain, the management who is good at it in other words.
Until perhaps someone finally stumbles on site that actually sells this thing, or indeed any of these supersmall but powerfull enough to play movies gadgets.
Don't hold you're breath. I got the basic design on paper, the parts is an other matter. Maybe be another month before I got the money. When I do, I do intent to photograph it all and put it online. But that may be some time away.
First of a little bit about me: I consider myself a hacker. Not because I am a good coder, I am not can just make a living in PHP, or a whizkid who makes computers out of egg cartons. I consider myself a hacker cause I love messing about with computers. I am right now working on wooden case with water cooling so I can have a really really quit PC. There is a lot of stuff to read and find out about for that but that's what I enjoy. Soon I will start the building and I enjoy that to. The testing will come hopefully after that and yes even that I do enjoy. The same goes for making websites. I like figuring out how to make things happen and weird config files, obscure documentation are just part of the challenge. I don't use a single GUI or shell for any of my configuration needs cause I don't need them, want them, like them, thrust them etc etc.
Now the point Over the years I have worked as a developer in both regular back-office IT and web development. I have worked there with brilliant and hopeless co-workers. Sometimes you can rely on them and sometimes it is just easier to do it youreselve. One thing I have however learned is NEVER EVER try to convert anyone. Worst mistake you can ever make is to try to learn anyone to code that is not already doing so. There is a reason they are not doing it. THEY DON'T LIKE IT! Call it the difference between people who code cause they like or because they see it as a career move.
Same really with linux. Those that are using it or are picking it up of their own free will deserve our help, and considering my own experience get it. Those that don't shouldn't be dragged in kicking and screaming. Take a very close look at apple. All attempts to increase its market share have fallen flat but so have all attempts to drive it out of the market. What is wrong with being a niche enviroment? Personally I would prefer if all these zealots would focus on BSD instead and leave linux alone. Linux for people who want linux, Windows for people who want windows, and mac for people who want mac, oh and pen and paper for everyone else.
www.enlightenment.org has a call for people not good at coding to help. It is a project aimed at creating a desktop envirmoment that is not just a windows ?? clone. Most projects in fact could use non-coders. Documentation anyone?
Hadn't thought of a heads up display type display. Couldn't really see the advantage of seeing you're surroundings in a quake style viewmode, except for some novel fragfests. But wouldn't most people want a simple map? Something they regonize and wich has proven itself in car navigation systems?
Okay I tell you why. I own a GBA. Recently I managed get a co-worker with a credit card to order me a backlight for it. With some skills I have not used in two decades(yes I am old) in managed to install the light and even to close it again. It works brilliantly. I now once again spend an awfull lot of time playing on it and might even buy some more games.
So thumbs up for the GBA right? Wrong. You see I work for a company called O2 as the web-developer, the cause I am the only programmer for the moment, for their online presence for the dutch branch. Holland was the first country in wich the XDA, a PDA with pocketpc(I know I know) and GPRS, was available. Apart that it is MS and is a bit underpowered the thing has one major advantage over the GBA, QUAKE!!!!!!! Yes it is tiny, yes the controls suck, but it is QUAKE!!!!!!! I have played doom on the GBA, trust me the two don't compare.
Since the XDA has gprs, and I presume that nokia will also, it has internet. Multiplay anyone? Fragging people why waiting for the plane could make waiting really fun. Only slight problem is that the processor is designed for boring old office type apps and so lacks the oomph needed to play later 3D games. With this move perhaps they will add a simple 3D accelerator as well
Try not to see this new devices as phones with gadgets but as mobile pc with a modem attached and if you only want a phone that can do voice. ehm what is stopping you? Just keep you're old one youre provider will love you since they will really get back the subsidie they made on it.
As for those wanting big screen, buy a nokia PCMCIA gprs/gsm card to play online while on the move.
I hope that someday soon I will simply be able to do quick FPS missions while travelling to work or maybe even a online RPG.
A FPS map of where you are. ehm, aren't those called you're eyes? perhaps you mean an overhead or 3rd persons perspective view. Reminds me a bit of tying a camera to a radio controlled car to get a photo realistic driving game:P
I have no idea what active directory is so I couldn't comment on its usefullness. The fact that I have worked about 7 years in IT as a developer and never come accross it means little since I always worked on backend servers and mainframes and only recently moved to the lighter end in the form of linux.
However youre point of ASP not being supported by apache despite it being popular is complete nonsense. PHP is just as popular a web language, it all depends on whose survey you believe, and it is only properly supported on apache (on IIS it is an CGI version wich is crap in production enviroments since it carries an extra overhead). Does this make apache supperior then? Clearly it depends on you're needs. If the company you work for uses ASP/PHP you will have to use the ISS/Apache to get the best result. Of course apache runs on windows as well. Does IIS run on linux or for that matter any other OS? Didn't think so.
I am not going to comment on the point that some people see apache as a more powerfull webserver capable of handling the huge loads some websites generate. Slashdot may require big servers many small sites could run from a 486 with personal webserver by MS(if of course you can get windows to run on a 486 anymore, linux can:-))
Being from The Netherlands why do I even care that you elect the most brain dead as youre leaders? I certainly don't care if the australians do, hell I don't even know what their goverment is? Right? Left? Who cares? Cause their goverment doesn't bother the rest of the world.
Sadly for a hell of a lot reasons whenever america farts the rest of the world smells it and lately the farts have been particullary load and smelly. It is not that the rest of the world don't fart, we just do it silently and out of company so as not to disrupt others. Europe is as corrupt, inept and just plain slow as the US, but at least we are also to stupid to try to enforce our laws upon the rest of the world.
Too true, as for the EU being any better, lets not forget that is a european firm, British Telecom, wich has the most blatant attempt of all. I would provide a link but they would sue me...
I liked dune 2 until about the last battle where you hit that max units in game message. Entire map filled with enemy forts and units, there I am at the bottom running out of spice and restricted to 20 units grrrr.
And master of magics was ehm okay as far as I remember, not as good as master of orion, but really can you still stand playing in 320-200 mode? My old eyes start watering after about 10 seconds, and MoM games used to last days for me.
Of course I grant you that I still play Grand Prix Legends, with the patchs the graphics may not be flashy but they don't hurt the eyes, and still play the odd session of transport tycoon. I just wish someone married old style game with the capabilities of my AMD XP.
Incomprehensible? Okay lets translate this to the normal world that any judge would understand. (btw this example used to be true, don't know if it still is) Cops doing traffic controll will look at a persons license plate. If it is in their own country they will just photograph speeders. If however it is a foreigner, wich would make sending a check and dealing with people refusing to pay a lot harder, they send a motor mouse after them and get the driver a ticket the old fashioned way. Basically this is the same. You look at something that is part of a person, their hostname, and decide how to act upon it. Adding a lot of legal mumbo jumbo won't fool any judge who is truly impartial. Of course this is ones again down to the american citizens, who can't seem to be arsed to elect a decent goverment.
I was going to point out a lot of stuff that others already did, as well as agree with you on some.
Instead lets think of this as the glass being half full/empty. Their have been many embarissing projects in developing nations that only did more harm. I just hope that someday people get it right by balancing what is needed with what is desired, either by their recipitient(?) or the donator. The fact that this was/is done in India itself sounds hopefull. At least with this method they won't end up with a lot of hardware none of the locals know how to maintain or can't afford to buy a new license for (happened with projects donating hardware to schools but not allowed to use the software from M$).
Of course they may just be trying to flog ice to the eskimos I just hope not
Wouldn't it be even more worrying if the reverse happened. If a search engine was paid to NOT display certain links? The internet is supposed to be this free haven of information, but the only way to find anything is through someone elses search engine, most of wich apparantly for money are willing to be selective in their searches.
Just how much would bill pay to have a links to bug tracking lists sorted at the bottom?
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Surely the whole point of opensourcing is to get input from other people. This may well include things that you don't need. The linux kernel has many patches and some projects spend a lot of time as kernel patch before they are ever added, if indeed at all, as standard.
As for forking, if you look around it doesn't seem to take place all that often. People who want their own product will usually want to start from scratch. Forks generally only take place when a very real difference emerges between the two possible paths. Of course youre software has to be really usefull first for this to happen.
But really the point is what do you wanna do? If you just wanna code and not be bothered by pesky outsiders wanting bug fixes for their crappy systems (Extreme 1) then perhaps you should just put youre code on a page and a note of good luck. Then again you may feel that two heads know more then one and you are looking forward to closing working with other developers to great together a brilliant product (Extreme 2). Decide on how you wanna run the project and then decide the appropriate license. Open source is a means, not an end.
As for multiple read heads? The way I read this they got two heads on one arm, so no speed improvement. Sorta like the eraser head on a tape recorder.
Now say that the webserver is in a hosten enviroment? Or that you need more data? Or you want to update say 4 times per day? It keeps amazing me how short sighted people on /. are. Just because they can't see the use for something it must therefore be useless. (sorry this is not aimed at you personally. The reaction to this story just is getting me pissed.)
Most crackers are not very determined. A recent honey trap showed that most attacks tried to exploit holes in IIS security. Only slight problem was that the trap ran on a linux box. Had they done the most basic check they would have known the OS and known that all their tools where useless. Yes a hacker would be able to get in but hackers don't bother with youre average website. Script kiddies on the other hand do. If they are turned off then you are safe.
This drive can used in readonly and readwrite AT THE SAME TIME!. 1 machine only reads, other machine readwrites. Yes of course you're solution works but having to switch the mount every time you want an update would be a pain. This solves both.
The content machine on the other hand can be fortified to the hilt since that its only task is to supplie a secure way in. It doesn't listen on port 80 and in fact it could be placed on a seperate net or even a simple direct line setup.
Unless I am very much mistaken you have just taken care of almost all script kiddies attacks, lets face it most of these attacks are extremely lame, except for (D)DOS but then again very little works against that. I really would like one of these disks.
Irak could use it. At the flip of the switch it would turn into war colors and at the first sign of any americans turn white again.
They liked pine.
Wow.
For years everyone has been trying to create the fisherprize OS TM and here the suits favor PINE! Granted I use elm myself since ehm, eh that is the one I grew up with, but the idea is the same.
I guess this puts to rest all those lamers who keep shouting that linux should be more userfriendly. The suits don't want that, they want functionality like apparently powerfull search over eye candy or even buttons.
This has really made my day and I will keep trying to get my company to allow my linux elm to connect to its servers. Thanks forbes
BTW with suits here I mean people who are not technical but who do have a brain, the management who is good at it in other words.
Yeah but that would have been a good thing.
Until perhaps someone finally stumbles on site that actually sells this thing, or indeed any of these supersmall but powerfull enough to play movies gadgets.
Don't hold you're breath. I got the basic design on paper, the parts is an other matter. Maybe be another month before I got the money. When I do, I do intent to photograph it all and put it online. But that may be some time away.
First of a little bit about me:
I consider myself a hacker. Not because I am a good coder, I am not can just make a living in PHP, or a whizkid who makes computers out of egg cartons. I consider myself a hacker cause I love messing about with computers. I am right now working on wooden case with water cooling so I can have a really really quit PC. There is a lot of stuff to read and find out about for that but that's what I enjoy. Soon I will start the building and I enjoy that to. The testing will come hopefully after that and yes even that I do enjoy.
The same goes for making websites. I like figuring out how to make things happen and weird config files, obscure documentation are just part of the challenge. I don't use a single GUI or shell for any of my configuration needs cause I don't need them, want them, like them, thrust them etc etc.
Now the point
Over the years I have worked as a developer in both regular back-office IT and web development. I have worked there with brilliant and hopeless co-workers. Sometimes you can rely on them and sometimes it is just easier to do it youreselve. One thing I have however learned is NEVER EVER try to convert anyone. Worst mistake you can ever make is to try to learn anyone to code that is not already doing so. There is a reason they are not doing it. THEY DON'T LIKE IT!
Call it the difference between people who code cause they like or because they see it as a career move.
Same really with linux. Those that are using it or are picking it up of their own free will deserve our help, and considering my own experience get it. Those that don't shouldn't be dragged in kicking and screaming. Take a very close look at apple. All attempts to increase its market share have fallen flat but so have all attempts to drive it out of the market. What is wrong with being a niche enviroment? Personally I would prefer if all these zealots would focus on BSD instead and leave linux alone. Linux for people who want linux, Windows for people who want windows, and mac for people who want mac, oh and pen and paper for everyone else.
www.enlightenment.org has a call for people not good at coding to help. It is a project aimed at creating a desktop envirmoment that is not just a windows ?? clone. Most projects in fact could use non-coders. Documentation anyone?
Who said anything about security holes? Surely MS software doesn't have any, at least I didn't see those come up in the MS vs linux page? :)
Hadn't thought of a heads up display type display. Couldn't really see the advantage of seeing you're surroundings in a quake style viewmode, except for some novel fragfests.
But wouldn't most people want a simple map? Something they regonize and wich has proven itself in car navigation systems?
Okay I tell you why. I own a GBA. Recently I managed get a co-worker with a credit card to order me a backlight for it. With some skills I have not used in two decades(yes I am old) in managed to install the light and even to close it again. It works brilliantly. I now once again spend an awfull lot of time playing on it and might even buy some more games.
So thumbs up for the GBA right? Wrong. You see I work for a company called O2 as the web-developer, the cause I am the only programmer for the moment, for their online presence for the dutch branch. Holland was the first country in wich the XDA, a PDA with pocketpc(I know I know) and GPRS, was available. Apart that it is MS and is a bit underpowered the thing has one major advantage over the GBA, QUAKE!!!!!!! Yes it is tiny, yes the controls suck, but it is QUAKE!!!!!!! I have played doom on the GBA, trust me the two don't compare.
Since the XDA has gprs, and I presume that nokia will also, it has internet. Multiplay anyone? Fragging people why waiting for the plane could make waiting really fun. Only slight problem is that the processor is designed for boring old office type apps and so lacks the oomph needed to play later 3D games. With this move perhaps they will add a simple 3D accelerator as well
Try not to see this new devices as phones with gadgets but as mobile pc with a modem attached and if you only want a phone that can do voice. ehm what is stopping you? Just keep you're old one youre provider will love you since they will really get back the subsidie they made on it.
As for those wanting big screen, buy a nokia PCMCIA gprs/gsm card to play online while on the move.
I hope that someday soon I will simply be able to do quick FPS missions while travelling to work or maybe even a online RPG.
A FPS map of where you are. ehm, aren't those called you're eyes? perhaps you mean an overhead or 3rd persons perspective view. Reminds me a bit of tying a camera to a radio controlled car to get a photo realistic driving game :P
I have no idea what active directory is so I couldn't comment on its usefullness. The fact that I have worked about 7 years in IT as a developer and never come accross it means little since I always worked on backend servers and mainframes and only recently moved to the lighter end in the form of linux.
However youre point of ASP not being supported by apache despite it being popular is complete nonsense. PHP is just as popular a web language, it all depends on whose survey you believe, and it is only properly supported on apache (on IIS it is an CGI version wich is crap in production enviroments since it carries an extra overhead). Does this make apache supperior then? Clearly it depends on you're needs. If the company you work for uses ASP/PHP you will have to use the ISS/Apache to get the best result. Of course apache runs on windows as well. Does IIS run on linux or for that matter any other OS? Didn't think so.
I am not going to comment on the point that some people see apache as a more powerfull webserver capable of handling the huge loads some websites generate. Slashdot may require big servers many small sites could run from a 486 with personal webserver by MS(if of course you can get windows to run on a 486 anymore, linux can :-))
Being from The Netherlands why do I even care that you elect the most brain dead as youre leaders? I certainly don't care if the australians do, hell I don't even know what their goverment is? Right? Left? Who cares? Cause their goverment doesn't bother the rest of the world.
Sadly for a hell of a lot reasons whenever america farts the rest of the world smells it and lately the farts have been particullary load and smelly. It is not that the rest of the world don't fart, we just do it silently and out of company so as not to disrupt others. Europe is as corrupt, inept and just plain slow as the US, but at least we are also to stupid to try to enforce our laws upon the rest of the world.
Too true, as for the EU being any better, lets not forget that is a european firm, British Telecom, wich has the most blatant attempt of all. I would provide a link but they would sue me...
Ha! Cards? We had to scratch our programs into the dirt(silicon).
I liked dune 2 until about the last battle where you hit that max units in game message. Entire map filled with enemy forts and units, there I am at the bottom running out of spice and restricted to 20 units grrrr.
And master of magics was ehm okay as far as I remember, not as good as master of orion, but really can you still stand playing in 320-200 mode? My old eyes start watering after about 10 seconds, and MoM games used to last days for me.
Of course I grant you that I still play Grand Prix Legends, with the patchs the graphics may not be flashy but they don't hurt the eyes, and still play the odd session of transport tycoon. I just wish someone married old style game with the capabilities of my AMD XP.
Incomprehensible? Okay lets translate this to the normal world that any judge would understand. (btw this example used to be true, don't know if it still is) Cops doing traffic controll will look at a persons license plate. If it is in their own country they will just photograph speeders. If however it is a foreigner, wich would make sending a check and dealing with people refusing to pay a lot harder, they send a motor mouse after them and get the driver a ticket the old fashioned way.
Basically this is the same. You look at something that is part of a person, their hostname, and decide how to act upon it. Adding a lot of legal mumbo jumbo won't fool any judge who is truly impartial.
Of course this is ones again down to the american citizens, who can't seem to be arsed to elect a decent goverment.
I was going to point out a lot of stuff that others already did, as well as agree with you on some.
Instead lets think of this as the glass being half full/empty. Their have been many embarissing projects in developing nations that only did more harm. I just hope that someday people get it right by balancing what is needed with what is desired, either by their recipitient(?) or the donator. The fact that this was/is done in India itself sounds hopefull. At least with this method they won't end up with a lot of hardware none of the locals know how to maintain or can't afford to buy a new license for (happened with projects donating hardware to schools but not allowed to use the software from M$).
Of course they may just be trying to flog ice to the eskimos I just hope not
Wouldn't it be even more worrying if the reverse happened. If a search engine was paid to NOT display certain links? The internet is supposed to be this free haven of information, but the only way to find anything is through someone elses search engine, most of wich apparantly for money are willing to be selective in their searches.
Just how much would bill pay to have a links to bug tracking lists sorted at the bottom?