Riiiight. This is MS. The company that RAISES the price of old windows past the price of new windows versions when the new ones come out. When XP came out they raised the price of 98 and ME to above the XP one.
And you expect them to LOWER the xbox original so they lose even MORE money selling the hardware?
Remember, when halo 2 was released, that was the first quarter EVER that the xbox made them money. All previous quarters they lost money in the xbox division.
If you see any lowering of price I'm guessing it will be from stores who want to clear out inventory to make room for 360. And even then, they will probably do it gradually over a few years since there's a decent amount of xboxes out there and people will still buy xbox games anyway.
Its probably also because the administrator who got interviewed by the reporter didn't understand it, the reporter didn't understand it, etc. I bet no one in the chain of communication to the reporter understood the details. Besides, to most people, computers are a black box. They NEVER do anything unexpected they are ALWAYS right. (see voting machines for a great example on how people ignore problems with computer systems).
So its just a "simple" glitch in that black box there.
I just took a look at videohelp.com When I checked the HD WMV box, the only player to come up was:
I-O Data AVeL LinkPlayer2 AVLP2/DVDLA for $250 When I checked the WMV9 box, 3 standalone players came up, again no pioneer. Searching for the Sigma EM8620L chip which is apparently the one that has the potential to do the HD WMV, comes up with 9 hits. Still no pioneer. A brief browse over at http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ I dont seem to see any dvd players that mention WMV period, let alone wmv9 of HD WMV. Granted I didn't do an exhaustive search, but I checked the specs on the top models in the two dvd player categories they had, elite and pro. Maybe they just like to hide it, or I need to dig down more.
I did say "last I checked" I'll reiterate my point: "If everyone was jumping on the HD WMV wagon, why dont we see more dvds with it? Its been availible for years. Isn't that T2 HD WMV version like 1 or 2 years old by now? Yet it still hasn't taken off."
Not going to happen. HD WMV like 720p or 1080i requires a hefty CPU to decode. Standalone blu ray or HD DVD players aren't going to start putting hefty CPU's inside the box with fans and crap. Last I checked, there weren't even any normal standlone dvd players that could play normal non HD WMV. I've seen plenty that could play AVI of various types like xvid and divx though. The companies selling the HD movies are going to put them in a format that an average standalone player can play. This doesn't mean WMV format. If everyone was jumping on the HD WMV wagon, why dont we see more dvds with it? Its been availible for years. Isn't that T2 HD WMV version like 1 or 2 years old by now? Yet it still hasn't taken off.
Whats going to happen is either blu ray and HD DVD battle it out, or one comes out on top near the start and takes over. Either way it won't be WMV vids on those disks that the movie studios will be selling.
The main reason for ME to want a new format is HD movies. Standard DVD movies are a sucky res of something like 700x500 approx (depends on a few things like PAL or NTSC, etc). 1080 hd movies are 1920x1080 res. Thats quite a differance. Would you settle for a 800x600 digital camera nowadays? Of course not, it sux. An average HD movie takes up 15 gigabytes or more, depending on what compression it has. Throw in the extras and you need a larger disk than a normal DVD to store it.
Some companies (like movie companies, and MS, etc) are pushing for it mostly for DRM reasons, of course.
Its ironic that as of right now, you cannot really buy HD movies (unless you want to have some weird hybrid video TAPE of some with some weird video player). The only way to aquire them is to download them off teh intarweb, or to record them from HD cable TV.
I WANT TO BUY HD movies, and I cannot!! If I had a choice between spending $20 on Incredibles DVD (which I bought), and $25 or $30 on a HD version of incredibles, I'd get the HD hands down. Once you start watching HD, you'll never go back.
When I bought a laptop recently, I paid extra to make sure it would hit at least 1920x1080 so I could watch HD on it if I choose.
The way I understand it, you can do it if you put your web server on a differant host/server with another company, by paying them money. I.e. I dont think you can do it by keeping it at your home with a home dsl/cable connection. Unless maybe you had both a dsl and a cable connection from differant companies. But I'm very n00b at this advanced networking stuff.
How is this surprising? It happens all the time in mainstream media, reporters righting stories without fact checking or checking the source. Especially in science or medical stories, probably because the reporter doesn't know enough to know what questions to ask, and because they think they have to dumb it down for the public.
So why is it happening on the internet any differant?
Its especially funny when the mainstream media goes and reports someone dies who hasn't. That happens about once a year for someone famous lol.
Wait, I thought that the kid sued ended up doing pro RIAA tv commercials? Did they decide they still wanted to go after her? Or was that another 12 yo sued by RIAA?
However, I still agree with your point that its fairly amazing they can fit the screen and touchpad and electronics/mp3 player inside AND the 4 gig flash for $250. I just disagree with the exactness of your particular statement about flash price.
Last time I checked my cell phones, they all had a thick clear plastic cover over the LCD screen. Theoretically you could rip off the cover and buff out the scratches and glue it on again to the phone to fix it up.
No, but from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) for the xbox360 you have to pay the extra upgrade price to xbox live gold to play multiplayer online. Xbox live silver doesn't include online multiplayer.
Newsflash: Companies change thier TOS/EULA/Policies/Privacy stuff, etc ALL the time without prior notification. They usually have some disclaimer inside it that even says they can and will. What, you didn't notice when hotmail updated their EULA to say that anything you email or receive email about belongs to them, including any personal information, or private company information including patents etc? Of course when ppl found out about it and complained they changed it. But there's still MS products that say you can't say anything negative about them without asking them first.
And there's the EULA changes in SP1 and SP2 that added a bunch of weird things to windows XP's agreement.
Companies are always updating EULA's to put nazi like terms in it, and only rarely to people notice. Like that company that said the first person to email this address will get $1000 in cash. It took what a year for someone to read EULA and see that?
LOL! One of my aunts and one of my uncles is that way. They had no clue how to get pics from camera to computer, they were complaining that thier 512 meg XD card was full and asking me what they could do. They thought they had to buy another card to take more pics!!!
spamtest+namehere@gmail.com Doesn't work in gmail. I get a "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:" when I try to send myself a note from gmail to gmail.
nobody has mentioned XML type docs? WTF?
Its basically pure text with some tags. If you had to you could remove the tags if they didn't apply to anything anymore and just look at the pure text.
Am I the only one who missed seeing the tiny little NEXT button on the bottom right and spent 5 mins trying to figure out how to read the article and thinking that/. was linking to a article you had to purchase on paper to read?
First, there's some good info on this link (thanks to another/. post in this thread): http://www.gamecloud.com/article.php?article_id=10 68 Like "Barring things like getting the GPL license all squared away, Carmack told the crowd the Q3A source code could be released as early as next week."
So for all the people asking about GPL, yes it will be GPL, just like all the past id ones.
Second, id deserves major props for doing this. Sure Q3 is a bit old but you know what? Its still played.
http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/ The 5th most played multiplayer online FPS in the world right now is Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Which is based on the Q3 engine. Probably its that popular because its also a free standalone expansion:)
Some other titles: Medal of Honor Allied Assault, Star Trek: Elite Force.
Medal of honor holds position #9, Q3A holds #10 and expansion to MOH holds #11.
So with Q3 and its liscened games holding 4 out of the top 11 most played online FPS slots (and it could be more, I dont know if any of those other top games are based on quake 3, I know that half life is based on q1 stuff and it and its mods are still #1), I'd say its still dang popular. So all those comments about "this is old and wont matter" I dont think thats true.
I love the model of getting the majority of money from a game/engine and a few years later releasing it as GPL. AND they continue to sell liscenses to people for engines they have GPLed in case a company doesn't want to release as GPL a game they make based on it. I wish more companies would do this. Anyway, again, major props to id.
From TFAs: "There is no evidence that any individuals are at risk of harm due to the breaches," the company said. "It is also important to note that only one external server was accessed, and there was no intrusion of Acxiom's internal security firewalls or internal databases."
"The 1.6 billion records included names, home addresses, phone numbers, e-mail addresses, bank and credit card numbers"
HAhaahahhahhahhaahahahaha. Yeah. what an excuse, no internal server was breached. And WTF was an "external" server doing containing all that information without any firewalls? Was thier security totally incompetent?
How long will that last when the book publishers find out they can sell the books at 2/3s price and have ZERO paper, materials, shipping, handling, printing, ink, etc costs? If they are popular you can bet that the book publishers will do everything they can to make sure the ebook is the only choice, or only choice that wont cost a lot. Its a sound business decision, cut cost of production (materials wise) to nil, and keep price nearly the same. What business would NOT want that?
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Riiiight. This is MS. The company that RAISES the price of old windows past the price of new windows versions when the new ones come out. When XP came out they raised the price of 98 and ME to above the XP one. And you expect them to LOWER the xbox original so they lose even MORE money selling the hardware? Remember, when halo 2 was released, that was the first quarter EVER that the xbox made them money. All previous quarters they lost money in the xbox division. If you see any lowering of price I'm guessing it will be from stores who want to clear out inventory to make room for 360. And even then, they will probably do it gradually over a few years since there's a decent amount of xboxes out there and people will still buy xbox games anyway.
Its probably also because the administrator who got interviewed by the reporter didn't understand it, the reporter didn't understand it, etc. I bet no one in the chain of communication to the reporter understood the details. Besides, to most people, computers are a black box. They NEVER do anything unexpected they are ALWAYS right. (see voting machines for a great example on how people ignore problems with computer systems).
So its just a "simple" glitch in that black box there.
I just took a look at videohelp.com
When I checked the HD WMV box, the only player to come up was:
I-O Data AVeL LinkPlayer2 AVLP2/DVDLA for $250
When I checked the WMV9 box, 3 standalone players came up, again no pioneer.
Searching for the Sigma EM8620L chip which is apparently the one that has the potential to do the HD WMV, comes up with 9 hits. Still no pioneer.
A brief browse over at http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ I dont seem to see any dvd players that mention WMV period, let alone wmv9 of HD WMV. Granted I didn't do an exhaustive search, but I checked the specs on the top models in the two dvd player categories they had, elite and pro. Maybe they just like to hide it, or I need to dig down more.
I did say "last I checked"
I'll reiterate my point:
"If everyone was jumping on the HD WMV wagon, why dont we see more dvds with it? Its been availible for years. Isn't that T2 HD WMV version like 1 or 2 years old by now? Yet it still hasn't taken off."
Hmm, when have they not been? lol
Not going to happen. HD WMV like 720p or 1080i requires a hefty CPU to decode. Standalone blu ray or HD DVD players aren't going to start putting hefty CPU's inside the box with fans and crap. Last I checked, there weren't even any normal standlone dvd players that could play normal non HD WMV. I've seen plenty that could play AVI of various types like xvid and divx though.
The companies selling the HD movies are going to put them in a format that an average standalone player can play. This doesn't mean WMV format.
If everyone was jumping on the HD WMV wagon, why dont we see more dvds with it? Its been availible for years. Isn't that T2 HD WMV version like 1 or 2 years old by now? Yet it still hasn't taken off.
Whats going to happen is either blu ray and HD DVD battle it out, or one comes out on top near the start and takes over. Either way it won't be WMV vids on those disks that the movie studios will be selling.
The main reason for ME to want a new format is HD movies. Standard DVD movies are a sucky res of something like 700x500 approx (depends on a few things like PAL or NTSC, etc). 1080 hd movies are 1920x1080 res. Thats quite a differance. Would you settle for a 800x600 digital camera nowadays? Of course not, it sux. An average HD movie takes up 15 gigabytes or more, depending on what compression it has. Throw in the extras and you need a larger disk than a normal DVD to store it.
Some companies (like movie companies, and MS, etc) are pushing for it mostly for DRM reasons, of course.
Its ironic that as of right now, you cannot really buy HD movies (unless you want to have some weird hybrid video TAPE of some with some weird video player). The only way to aquire them is to download them off teh intarweb, or to record them from HD cable TV.
I WANT TO BUY HD movies, and I cannot!! If I had a choice between spending $20 on Incredibles DVD (which I bought), and $25 or $30 on a HD version of incredibles, I'd get the HD hands down. Once you start watching HD, you'll never go back.
When I bought a laptop recently, I paid extra to make sure it would hit at least 1920x1080 so I could watch HD on it if I choose.
Yeah and blu ray or HD DVD stand alone players will be $300+ or so at launch too probably. So the same thing will apply again.
The way I understand it, you can do it if you put your web server on a differant host/server with another company, by paying them money. I.e. I dont think you can do it by keeping it at your home with a home dsl/cable connection. Unless maybe you had both a dsl and a cable connection from differant companies. But I'm very n00b at this advanced networking stuff.
How is this surprising? It happens all the time in mainstream media, reporters righting stories without fact checking or checking the source. Especially in science or medical stories, probably because the reporter doesn't know enough to know what questions to ask, and because they think they have to dumb it down for the public.
So why is it happening on the internet any differant?
Its especially funny when the mainstream media goes and reports someone dies who hasn't. That happens about once a year for someone famous lol.
Wait, I thought that the kid sued ended up doing pro RIAA tv commercials? Did they decide they still wanted to go after her? Or was that another 12 yo sued by RIAA?
Until everyone reads it. First time seeing it for me.
The 4gb nano is what, $250?
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Well last time I bought a 1gb USB 2 flash drive it was $50.
So 4x$50=$200 so you are wrong, you can buy 4gb of flash for less than the ipod nano.
A quick check on newegg will verify this. 1 gigs are going for $50ish and 4 gig USB flash are arond $200ish.
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp
pick type of Flash Drive (USB) and pick capacity if you like.
However, I still agree with your point that its fairly amazing they can fit the screen and touchpad and electronics/mp3 player inside AND the 4 gig flash for $250. I just disagree with the exactness of your particular statement about flash price.
Last time I checked my cell phones, they all had a thick clear plastic cover over the LCD screen.
Theoretically you could rip off the cover and buff out the scratches and glue it on again to the phone to fix it up.
I dont think you can do that with the ipod.
No, but from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) for the xbox360 you have to pay the extra upgrade price to xbox live gold to play multiplayer online. Xbox live silver doesn't include online multiplayer.
Newsflash:
Companies change thier TOS/EULA/Policies/Privacy stuff, etc ALL the time without prior notification. They usually have some disclaimer inside it that even says they can and will. What, you didn't notice when hotmail updated their EULA to say that anything you email or receive email about belongs to them, including any personal information, or private company information including patents etc? Of course when ppl found out about it and complained they changed it. But there's still MS products that say you can't say anything negative about them without asking them first.
And there's the EULA changes in SP1 and SP2 that added a bunch of weird things to windows XP's agreement.
Companies are always updating EULA's to put nazi like terms in it, and only rarely to people notice. Like that company that said the first person to email this address will get $1000 in cash. It took what a year for someone to read EULA and see that?
LOL! One of my aunts and one of my uncles is that way. They had no clue how to get pics from camera to computer, they were complaining that thier 512 meg XD card was full and asking me what they could do. They thought they had to buy another card to take more pics!!!
spamtest+namehere@gmail.com
Doesn't work in gmail.
I get a "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:" when I try to send myself a note from gmail to gmail.
nobody has mentioned XML type docs? WTF? Its basically pure text with some tags. If you had to you could remove the tags if they didn't apply to anything anymore and just look at the pure text.
Yeah but the gmail thing wasn't fake. My gmail is up to 2.5 gigs.
Am I the only one who missed seeing the tiny little NEXT button on the bottom right and spent 5 mins trying to figure out how to read the article and thinking that /. was linking to a article you had to purchase on paper to read?
First, there's some good info on this link (thanks to another /. post in this thread):0 68
:)
http://www.gamecloud.com/article.php?article_id=1
Like "Barring things like getting the GPL license all squared away, Carmack told the crowd the Q3A source code could be released as early as next week."
So for all the people asking about GPL, yes it will be GPL, just like all the past id ones.
Second, id deserves major props for doing this. Sure Q3 is a bit old but you know what? Its still played.
http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/
The 5th most played multiplayer online FPS in the world right now is Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Which is based on the Q3 engine. Probably its that popular because its also a free standalone expansion
Some other titles:
Medal of Honor Allied Assault, Star Trek: Elite Force.
Medal of honor holds position #9, Q3A holds #10 and expansion to MOH holds #11.
So with Q3 and its liscened games holding 4 out of the top 11 most played online FPS slots (and it could be more, I dont know if any of those other top games are based on quake 3, I know that half life is based on q1 stuff and it and its mods are still #1), I'd say its still dang popular. So all those comments about "this is old and wont matter" I dont think thats true.
I love the model of getting the majority of money from a game/engine and a few years later releasing it as GPL. AND they continue to sell liscenses to people for engines they have GPLed in case a company doesn't want to release as GPL a game they make based on it. I wish more companies would do this. Anyway, again, major props to id.
From TFAs:
"There is no evidence that any individuals are at risk of harm due to the breaches," the company said. "It is also important to note that only one external server was accessed, and there was no intrusion of Acxiom's internal security firewalls or internal databases."
"The 1.6 billion records included names, home addresses, phone numbers, e-mail addresses, bank and credit card numbers"
HAhaahahhahhahhaahahahaha. Yeah. what an excuse, no internal server was breached. And WTF was an "external" server doing containing all that information without any firewalls? Was thier security totally incompetent?
Its a federal offense to tamper with the mail. Thats probably what they'd say... somehow.
How long will that last when the book publishers find out they can sell the books at 2/3s price and have ZERO paper, materials, shipping, handling, printing, ink, etc costs?
If they are popular you can bet that the book publishers will do everything they can to make sure the ebook is the only choice, or only choice that wont cost a lot. Its a sound business decision, cut cost of production (materials wise) to nil, and keep price nearly the same. What business would NOT want that?