Personally it looks like a going out of business sale. Looking at the list of discontinue cards it makes me wonder.
I've had issues with several ati cards and Linux. Been working for weeks with various groups to hammer the problems out. Basically they work ok on a monitor however I'm now trying to build a pvr using freevo or mythtv and the composite out just isn't working. I'm about to trade up for an Nvidia card. Ati simply isn't interested in linux and this is another nail in the coffin:/
Are they serious? And they attribute using Linux is but it's ok to take money from Micro$oft. A company that started out by using free software and putting a label on it. You have to admit, it's not a crime when it's free software however using SCO UNIX is.
I wonder if they figured out who in their company decided to publish their code in the Linux Kernel. Sorry my memory is short however I do recall an article in wired.com in which SCO anonymous cowards mentioned the IP code was put in by them. Dumbasses. Put the code in and complain we stole it. ROFLMAO!!
Doesn't matter. If Apple wins then UNIX will be a generic term.
Link from the previous slashdot story regarding this. http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1015814.html
Oh and btw, It was my understanding that the open group was the one responsible for saying what is UNIX and what isn't. Weird that SCO "thinks" they can flip a switch and instantly make something not UNIX:-)
I worked for a small company 6 years ago with 3 other IT members. We eventually split into a couple of groups. The people who worked and those who didn't. After a couple of years myself and one one (the workers) decided to approach management about our concerns. The work piled up and we were stressing to keep up with it.
To make a long story short, after exhausting what we felt was all means available to us we went looking for employment. In a matter of days we both found another job at the same company. We turned in our resignation letters within 20 minutes of each other.
To our surprise our manager didn't understand why we would leave. Unreal.
From what I hear, the manager didn't get his bonus/raise as a result of our leaving. Loosing half your department hurt a great deal and I was sorry but felt we had no choice.
If it's right for you and your co-workers then do it. Walkout but make sure you have the next job ready:-)
They are getting ready for the lawsuit against SCO when the stock collapses:D
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I used to work for these guys in their Lindon site. Ellen and the gang were soo up beat and ready to conquer the world. That was 10 months before they went bankrupt. I'm still unsure why they were so up beat. They must have had a clue there were problems.
Think about it. They had billions in the bank. This was in 2000 when the internet bubble had burst and they were doing very well (according to them at least). Makes me wonder if Exodus is another Enron.
No I'm not trolling... I really was an employee and all the above is true as far as I know. After all this time I am curious.
What truely amazes me is that SCO is "claiming" Novell is currying favor with the Linux community by saying they still own the IP for UNIX. After all these years they kept asking Novell over and over again to transfer the IP in multiple letters. Hopefully Novell still has those letters. in a court it would destroy anything SCO has said to date.
Heck, someone check the patent office. Last I heard they thought Novell still owned the IP in UNIX also.
I am amazed these guys are still around. They claim they are profitable and doing well.... then I check their stock. Yup, well into oblivion I'd say.
Don't worry about it. If SCO get's what they are asking for then basically it amounts to SCO sueing themselves out of existance. They are after all contributors to the Linux code.
What's sad is this has been predicted of our great country now for years. This sounds like a good idea however eventually it will be used against private citizens.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it is sound advice.
I don't want to be a gloom and doom naysayer however you must admit, we're falling into the hole again:/
I use a DVD copier all the time. What is wrong with these people? They expect me to NOT have an archival backup of my DVDs?
Not interested. What happens if the original is damaged somehow? Refund? I doubt they would do that. Same thing with my CD's. I make a backup of every single one.
I remember the time my 3 year old was playing hide and seek with one of my video game cd's. You know... the kind that REQUIRES the CD in the drive. So I simply made a copy from my backup and I'm back in the game:-)
I'm still waiting for SCO to provide ANY information as to why they feel their IP has been infringed.
To date they have used FUD as ruthlessly as Microsoft in the past. I wonder if they are not on the Micro$oft payroll considering their tactics.
Finally, I'm curious why they feel the end user of any Linux product "could" be legally responsible for anything. I downloaded a product used worldwide and has GPL licensing all over it. If we've broken the law then they are responsible to enlighten us.
Maybe someone should tell them Linus wrote the kernal. Or we could sit back and watch them flounder before death takes them.
FYI... I don't dismiss everything they say as stupidity. Occasionally they say something amusing and I'd mod it up to +1 Funny:-)
What you don't seem to understand is that Kazaa is a great tool for evaluating movies, songs, software, etc...
For years I haven't purchased cd's. About 10 years not a single one. Then Kazaa comes along and I download dozens of songs. I discover there are actually a few songs I liked and kept. Before I realize it, I'm listening to the song often.
The point is I've purchased several dozen cd's because of Kazaa. Software? Same thing. Half-Life, CounterStrike mod to H/L, Battle Field 1942, Return to Castle Wolfenstein and so on. All purchased because I found a copy on Kazaa, played it soo much that I bought the damn thing.
Sure complain about Kazaa or any other P2P network sharing stuff like this. Before I spend my money on POS songs/games/whatever I evaluate it. Oh and don't tell me about the reviews or any of that junk. I've purchased POS songs/games/whatever based on their reviews. If someone wants to give me my money back then they can have it since I can't return it.
If I had ANY mod points left I'd give 'em to you. Definitely funny:-)
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The move will create more bad feeling among users, according to David Rippon, chairman of the BCS IT directors group Elite.
"This is a fairly typical situation in that most users will not have budgeted for the price increase and will be unable to do anything about it," he said.
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After reading that part in the article I'm shocked that people STILL haven't figured this out. Just how mad to users have to get before they say to Microsoft "ENOUGH ALREADY!". Heck, I moved on years ago. Glad I didn't wait:-)
Problem is I'm not a customer of 99.99999% of the email "corps" I receive an email from. Your email would be considered appropriate.
Perhaps something like the new do not call list made available to spammers. If something like that were implemented then it would decrease the number of messages being sent in a snap.
The government doesn't do anything that's entirely in our best interest. It has to be in their best interest. No... not trolling simply think about it. Many times I've read how laws the voters put into place were deemed unconstitutional or some other reason was used NOT to implement it despite the voters demand.
Oh and btw, many of these laws were beneficial to the voters. Really good ideas that simply never took off due to lack of government interest. California for example passed a law many years ago that is still in courts. Basically denying medical or other government services to illegal aliens. It was never implemented as I understand. It was a good idea with over 80% voting yes. So much for our best interest.
BTW, as far as email spam goes, why not just make that illegal rather than taxing spammers. After all... it should be illegal. I think it safe to say that most spammers send out more than 5,000 email's a year. Perhaps setting that as a top limit of what defines a person as a spammer. Just a thought
They are currently busy rewriting the UNIX Kernel to include Linux GPL code. That way they have proof and can sue IBM.
You didn't expect them to provide proof now did you? They aren't finished re-writing UNIX. If they did they would have no case. Can't have that happen can we.
Personally I'm tired of SCO. I've been dealing with UNIX systems for years now and SCO was by far the most annoying OS next to Microsoft I've worked with. Going from HP-UX/Solaris/Linux to SCO UNIX was like a shock to my system:-)
I'm pretty upset with SCO with this lawsuit crap. Now they release a product and really expect someone to use it?
No thanks SCO. Go peddle your trash somewhere else. Seriously. Has anyone here had a GOOD experience with any SCO products? They were caldera before If I recall right. Caldera had many problems when we checked it out. SUSE and RedHat did really well overall.
Heck, I remember the time we had a couple of their engineers over to help resolve some problems with a default installation. After 2 days they quietly disappeared. GG Guys!
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Personally it looks like a going out of business sale. Looking at the list of discontinue cards it makes me wonder.
:/
I've had issues with several ati cards and Linux. Been working for weeks with various groups to hammer the problems out. Basically they work ok on a monitor however I'm now trying to build a pvr using freevo or mythtv and the composite out just isn't working. I'm about to trade up for an Nvidia card. Ati simply isn't interested in linux and this is another nail in the coffin
ummm.. more like the PC he bought probably came with Windoze preloaded. Highly unlikely Linux/BSD are failures. I'm still running them after all :D
Probably why I build my systems instead of purchasing a computer from anyone.
Goes to show you. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Sad. Gates is old enough that politicians listen to his money however young enough that he doesn't have a clue of what life was like back when.
Personally I'm still laughing over his 640K is plenty comment.
That's nothing compared to my patent. I have built a device that toasts not just one but two pieces of toast.
;-)
It's amazing that they will let you get away with these days
"Stealing software is NOT a crime"
Are they serious? And they attribute using Linux is but it's ok to take money from Micro$oft. A company that started out by using free software and putting a label on it. You have to admit, it's not a crime when it's free software however using SCO UNIX is.
I wonder if they figured out who in their company decided to publish their code in the Linux Kernel. Sorry my memory is short however I do recall an article in wired.com in which SCO anonymous cowards mentioned the IP code was put in by them. Dumbasses. Put the code in and complain we stole it. ROFLMAO!!
Doesn't matter. If Apple wins then UNIX will be a generic term.
:-)
Link from the previous slashdot story regarding this.
http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1015814.html
Oh and btw, It was my understanding that the open group was the one responsible for saying what is UNIX and what isn't. Weird that SCO "thinks" they can flip a switch and instantly make something not UNIX
I always knew they were retarded.
I worked for a small company 6 years ago with 3 other IT members. We eventually split into a couple of groups. The people who worked and those who didn't. After a couple of years myself and one one (the workers) decided to approach management about our concerns. The work piled up and we were stressing to keep up with it.
:-)
To make a long story short, after exhausting what we felt was all means available to us we went looking for employment. In a matter of days we both found another job at the same company. We turned in our resignation letters within 20 minutes of each other.
To our surprise our manager didn't understand why we would leave. Unreal.
From what I hear, the manager didn't get his bonus/raise as a result of our leaving. Loosing half your department hurt a great deal and I was sorry but felt we had no choice.
If it's right for you and your co-workers then do it. Walkout but make sure you have the next job ready
Makes me wonder if SCO (formerly Caldera) had put the code themselves into Linux IF this is true.
IF this IS true I would love to know how did this.
They are getting ready for the lawsuit against SCO when the stock collapses :D
I used to work for these guys in their Lindon site. Ellen and the gang were soo up beat and ready to conquer the world. That was 10 months before they went bankrupt. I'm still unsure why they were so up beat. They must have had a clue there were problems.
Think about it. They had billions in the bank. This was in 2000 when the internet bubble had burst and they were doing very well (according to them at least). Makes me wonder if Exodus is another Enron.
No I'm not trolling... I really was an employee and all the above is true as far as I know. After all this time I am curious.
What truely amazes me is that SCO is "claiming" Novell is currying favor with the Linux community by saying they still own the IP for UNIX. After all these years they kept asking Novell over and over again to transfer the IP in multiple letters. Hopefully Novell still has those letters. in a court it would destroy anything SCO has said to date.
Heck, someone check the patent office. Last I heard they thought Novell still owned the IP in UNIX also.
I am amazed these guys are still around. They claim they are profitable and doing well.... then I check their stock. Yup, well into oblivion I'd say.
Pardon me while I laugh.
Don't worry about it. If SCO get's what they are asking for then basically it amounts to SCO sueing themselves out of existance. They are after all contributors to the Linux code.
As sad as it really is.
What's sad is this has been predicted of our great country now for years. This sounds like a good idea however eventually it will be used against private citizens.
:/
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it is sound advice.
I don't want to be a gloom and doom naysayer however you must admit, we're falling into the hole again
I use a DVD copier all the time. What is wrong with these people? They expect me to NOT have an archival backup of my DVDs?
:-)
Not interested. What happens if the original is damaged somehow? Refund? I doubt they would do that. Same thing with my CD's. I make a backup of every single one.
I remember the time my 3 year old was playing hide and seek with one of my video game cd's. You know... the kind that REQUIRES the CD in the drive. So I simply made a copy from my backup and I'm back in the game
I'm still waiting for SCO to provide ANY information as to why they feel their IP has been infringed.
:-)
To date they have used FUD as ruthlessly as Microsoft in the past. I wonder if they are not on the Micro$oft payroll considering their tactics.
Finally, I'm curious why they feel the end user of any Linux product "could" be legally responsible for anything. I downloaded a product used worldwide and has GPL licensing all over it. If we've broken the law then they are responsible to enlighten us.
Maybe someone should tell them Linus wrote the kernal. Or we could sit back and watch them flounder before death takes them.
FYI... I don't dismiss everything they say as stupidity. Occasionally they say something amusing and I'd mod it up to +1 Funny
"Shouldn't there be at least SOME human intervention?"
:-)
You are of course presuming the RIAA is human.
Personally I think the music industry is all automated these days. Why hire people when consumers will even pay for crappy music anyway
What you don't seem to understand is that Kazaa is a great tool for evaluating movies, songs, software, etc...
For years I haven't purchased cd's. About 10 years not a single one. Then Kazaa comes along and I download dozens of songs. I discover there are actually a few songs I liked and kept. Before I realize it, I'm listening to the song often.
The point is I've purchased several dozen cd's because of Kazaa. Software? Same thing. Half-Life, CounterStrike mod to H/L, Battle Field 1942, Return to Castle Wolfenstein and so on. All purchased because I found a copy on Kazaa, played it soo much that I bought the damn thing.
Sure complain about Kazaa or any other P2P network sharing stuff like this. Before I spend my money on POS songs/games/whatever I evaluate it. Oh and don't tell me about the reviews or any of that junk. I've purchased POS songs/games/whatever based on their reviews. If someone wants to give me my money back then they can have it since I can't return it.
If I had ANY mod points left I'd give 'em to you. Definitely funny :-)
:-)
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The move will create more bad feeling among users, according to David Rippon, chairman of the BCS IT directors group Elite.
"This is a fairly typical situation in that most users will not have budgeted for the price increase and will be unable to do anything about it," he said.
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After reading that part in the article I'm shocked that people STILL haven't figured this out. Just how mad to users have to get before they say to Microsoft "ENOUGH ALREADY!". Heck, I moved on years ago. Glad I didn't wait
I hear yah. Perhaps a do no call list such as what the FCC is starting up for telemarketers?
Problem is I'm not a customer of 99.99999% of the email "corps" I receive an email from. Your email would be considered appropriate.
Perhaps something like the new do not call list made available to spammers. If something like that were implemented then it would decrease the number of messages being sent in a snap.
Suggestions then?
The government doesn't do anything that's entirely in our best interest. It has to be in their best interest. No... not trolling simply think about it. Many times I've read how laws the voters put into place were deemed unconstitutional or some other reason was used NOT to implement it despite the voters demand.
Oh and btw, many of these laws were beneficial to the voters. Really good ideas that simply never took off due to lack of government interest. California for example passed a law many years ago that is still in courts. Basically denying medical or other government services to illegal aliens. It was never implemented as I understand. It was a good idea with over 80% voting yes. So much for our best interest.
BTW, as far as email spam goes, why not just make that illegal rather than taxing spammers. After all... it should be illegal. I think it safe to say that most spammers send out more than 5,000 email's a year. Perhaps setting that as a top limit of what defines a person as a spammer. Just a thought
They are currently busy rewriting the UNIX Kernel to include Linux GPL code. That way they have proof and can sue IBM.
:-)
You didn't expect them to provide proof now did you? They aren't finished re-writing UNIX. If they did they would have no case. Can't have that happen can we.
Personally I'm tired of SCO. I've been dealing with UNIX systems for years now and SCO was by far the most annoying OS next to Microsoft I've worked with. Going from HP-UX/Solaris/Linux to SCO UNIX was like a shock to my system
"What is your greatest weakness?"
;-)
Yeah. Pretty silly question IMHO. I prefer to ask the job seeker what self improvement would they like to work on or something to that effect.
Greatest weakness. lol.. I work to damn hard and need to spend more time with my family
I'm pretty upset with SCO with this lawsuit crap. Now they release a product and really expect someone to use it?
No thanks SCO. Go peddle your trash somewhere else. Seriously. Has anyone here had a GOOD experience with any SCO products? They were caldera before If I recall right. Caldera had many problems when we checked it out. SUSE and RedHat did really well overall.
Heck, I remember the time we had a couple of their engineers over to help resolve some problems with a default installation. After 2 days they quietly disappeared. GG Guys!