My ex wife worked in a boiler room calling to sell cable TV subscriptions a few years ago. The system they used had a voice recognition system, similar to a modem. Some modems will hear a voice when they dial and send the message VOICE CALL to the terminal and hang up rather than bug the shit out of someone with modem tones in case you dialed a wrong number.
There may be other methods such as you describe but I personally witnessed the voice recognition system, it switched the line to an operator as soon as it recognized a human voice.
As for having the SIT tones on several times, they are there just for redundancy, just in case the system didn't catch them the first time due to system lag or line noise, or whatever.
As for other people having to listen to it, my friends and family know. If they get the tones they know I'm not in the house and they just call my cell phone. If they don't have my cell phone number they aren't important to me and I don't care if they ever call again.
And I don't waste my time on assholes. I have a LARGE LCD caller ID on the wall that I can see clearly. When the phone rings I glance up at it, if it's someone I know I pick up and talk to them, if it's not, I just go about my business and let the answering machine take care of it. I have the volumed muted on it so I don't even bother to do audio screening.. I simply don't care... I have better things to do than waste my time arguing with toilet scum telemarketers..
The telezapper just uses ONE of the three tones. They telemarketers got wise to this and they now only recognize the tri-tone as being legit. The single tone the telezapper puts out is no longer useable. A REAL SIT tone still gets the job done..
google a sit tone. sit.wav or sit.mp3 It's that nasty sounding tri-tone that you get when you call a phone number that's been disconnected. Go to wally world and buy a $10 answering machine and a $10 caller ID.
Hit -record- on the answering machine. Play the SIT tone into the microphone at a LOUD level, TWO TIMES in a row. Then wait two seconds and say, "I'm sorry, the number you called is not taking calls right now, please call back later." and repeat the SIT tone two more times loudly. Set the answering machine to announce only, answer on 4th ring and don't let it record messages.
When the phone rings, look at the caller ID. If it's not someone you KNOW or it says, "out of area" or "name unavailable" let the machine take care of it for you.
They have a computer that dials and listens for human voices. That's why you get silence when you answer it. When it hears you say "hello" it knows there is a living human there and it switches you to a semi-human operator so they can harrass you for 10 minutes.
The dialing computer hears the SIT tone and it asusmes that it has dialed a phone number that has been disconnected. You number is removed from the dialing databank and won't be tried again until the next billing cycle, they assume that you may have had your phone turned off for nonpayment and maybe get it back on later.
I swear to you this works. Just do it for ONE WEEK and this shit will almost totally stop. And they DO sell/trade/share/rent those number banks with other companies. So after a few months the calls will all but totally vanish.
They better have some heavy duty security in place. And they better have armed escorts to and from the parking lots. Someone is going to get a belly full someday very soon and they will go looking for a pound of flesh..
The odds are against them because they so viscously and relentlessly hound and harrass such large numbers of people so endlessly. Sooner or later, the numbers say that a certain percentage of their victims will snap..
And you know what? I won't shed a single tear for one of them. Not one....
The audio thing is no good either, some people such as myself are hearing damaged and can barely understand people as it is. I have to have people speak directly to me so I can see their mouth moving else I have extreme trouble understanding what they are saying because my hearing is so badly damaged.
I can understand the verification method being a "good" method to stop bots from doing evil deeds but they really have created a serious hurdle for the blind. What to do eh???
Just what we've all been waiting for, our government approved identity mark. Tell us, will we be tattoed with it, and if so, will it be on the forehead or the right hand??
If you don't believe it, go to the United States Patent Office website and search for APPROVED patent number 5,878,155 and or this, "Method for verifying human identity during electronic sale transactions"
Normally he sits around naked playing "Age of Empires IV, Crush the Evil Penguin" He has a TENS device hooked to his penis and when he plunges a rusty spear through the heart of the Penguin king he gets 20,000 volts on HIS spear. Wow! I can't bear to picture that one...
and I LOVE it compared to M$.. It's just good stuff. I started on 8.2 and just about the time I got it good and screwed up 9.0 came out. Well, that sucked pretty much, so much that I tried to switch to suse 8.1 Suse 8.1 had some problem with my mobo so I went back to 9.0 A few weeks later 9.1 was out and since then it's been great. I've put several friends and family members on it and they like it too. And they went cold turkey from M$ to Linux. They are still and always will be lost, but they were anyway. Better to be lost on the same island as your support guy though eh??
I had to learn and old lesson that I had forgotten from the DOS days. Stay away from.0's (dot-ohs).0's ALWAYS suck. ALWAYS. As far as I'm concerned, I think I'll stay with Mandrake 9.1 even if they do come out with 9.2 or 9.3 or 10.0...
I don't want M$ compatibility in my Linux. I do not want it. Please, please don't push it in on us, don't force it on us, don't sneak it in on us. We want absolute freedom from the tyranny of M$...
When did this happen?? I've got an nvidia card and Linux. I just checked on the drivers update status a few weeks ago and they still had Linux drivers for download. Matter of fact I just now went there and here's what they have.
From Nivida.com downloads, "Linux Graphics Driver Download
Version: 1.0-4363 Operating System: Linux IA32 Release Date: April 24, 2003"
Are they now *NOT* going to support Linux in future hardware and not release new and improved drivers for existing cards and customers???
You miss the point. I state that it is WRONG to penalize *ME* for *YOUR* sins. I do not engage the afore mentioned activites, therefore it is wrong and unjust to punish *me* for what *others* do...
have 6 or 7 holes in every wall with in the house with blue wires hanging out of them. Wall plates? "We don need no steenkin wallplates!"
Really now, why would anyone plan out a home network? That takes all the fun out ot it! I mean what's more fun than pulling wires at the last minute when you really have to have that wire. And then trying to untangle the whole thing when you have to trouble shoot it!
Real men have huge tangled and matted nests of wires and they KNOW what every wire is!
Well I think that anything that is being taxed that way should be clearly marked a such.
This is taxation without representation. It should be illegal to penalize people that do not break the law. Even an accused murderer is afforded the benefit of the doubt and is made to stand trial before paying the penalty for his transgressions/crime(s).
Thank you. I feel less ignorant now. I'm not up on all the trendy things.. I was thinking it had something to do with Indian music (as in the country)..
Well, I don't buy audio cassette. Don't use them, haven't used them for years. I listen to AM radio (news) in the car, not music. Could care less if the car even had an FM radio or not. Prefer that it did not because I have no use for it..
As for video tapes, well, at $9 for 10 blanks at Wally World, well, OUCH. Big tax there. I was never aware that there was a "theft tax" applied to video tapes in the first place.
Besides, I don't video tape things anymore, I quit watching TV a few years ago. TV is a sewer anyway.
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My ex wife worked in a boiler room calling to sell cable TV subscriptions a few years ago.
The system they used had a voice recognition system, similar to a modem. Some modems will hear a voice when they dial and send the message VOICE CALL to the terminal and hang up rather than bug the shit out of someone with modem tones in case you dialed a wrong number.
There may be other methods such as you describe but I personally witnessed the voice recognition system, it switched the line to an operator as soon as it recognized a human voice.
As for having the SIT tones on several times, they are there just for redundancy, just in case the system didn't catch them the first time due to system lag or line noise, or whatever.
As for other people having to listen to it, my friends and family know. If they get the tones they know I'm not in the house and they just call my cell phone. If they don't have my cell phone number they aren't important to me and I don't care if they ever call again.
And I don't waste my time on assholes. I have a LARGE LCD caller ID on the wall that I can see clearly. When the phone rings I glance up at it, if it's someone I know I pick up and talk to them, if it's not, I just go about my business and let the answering machine take care of it. I have the volumed muted on it so I don't even bother to do audio screening.. I simply don't care... I have better things to do than waste my time arguing with toilet scum telemarketers..
The telezapper just uses ONE of the three tones.
They telemarketers got wise to this and they now only recognize the tri-tone as being legit.
The single tone the telezapper puts out is no longer useable.
A REAL SIT tone still gets the job done..
Good info sir, thank you!
google a sit tone. sit.wav or sit.mp3
It's that nasty sounding tri-tone that you get when you call a phone number that's been disconnected.
Go to wally world and buy a $10 answering machine and a $10 caller ID.
Hit -record- on the answering machine.
Play the SIT tone into the microphone at a LOUD level, TWO TIMES in a row.
Then wait two seconds and say,
"I'm sorry, the number you called is not taking calls right now, please call back later." and repeat the SIT tone two more times loudly.
Set the answering machine to announce only, answer on 4th ring and don't let it record messages.
When the phone rings, look at the caller ID.
If it's not someone you KNOW or it says, "out of area" or "name unavailable" let the machine take care of it for you.
They have a computer that dials and listens for human voices. That's why you get silence when you answer it. When it hears you say "hello" it knows there is a living human there and it switches you to a semi-human operator so they can harrass you for 10 minutes.
The dialing computer hears the SIT tone and it asusmes that it has dialed a phone number that has been disconnected. You number is removed from the dialing databank and won't be tried again until the next billing cycle, they assume that you may have had your phone turned off for nonpayment and maybe get it back on later.
I swear to you this works. Just do it for ONE WEEK and this shit will almost totally stop.
And they DO sell/trade/share/rent those number banks with other companies. So after a few months the calls will all but totally vanish.
TRUST ME, IT WORKS!!
They want to play dirty??
They better have some heavy duty security in place. And they better have armed escorts to and from the parking lots. Someone is going to get a belly full someday very soon and they will go looking for a pound of flesh..
The odds are against them because they so viscously and relentlessly hound and harrass such large numbers of people so endlessly.
Sooner or later, the numbers say that a certain percentage of their victims will snap..
And you know what? I won't shed a single tear for one of them. Not one....
Now if HP would make a decent PC...
At least they are better than scumpaq...
The audio thing is no good either,
some people such as myself are hearing damaged and can barely understand people as it is.
I have to have people speak directly to me so I can see their mouth moving else I have extreme trouble understanding what they are saying because my hearing is so badly damaged.
I can understand the verification method being a "good" method to stop bots from doing evil deeds but they really have created a serious hurdle for the blind. What to do eh???
Damned if you do, damned if you don't....
Just what we've all been waiting for, our government approved identity mark.
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Tell us, will we be tattoed with it, and if so, will it be on the forehead or the right hand??
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If you don't believe it, go to the United States Patent Office website and search for APPROVED patent number 5,878,155
and or this, "Method for verifying human identity during electronic sale transactions"
Excellent observation!
I like the way you think sir!
You have the makings of a Patriotic American!
No, no, no! That's not a bowl cut, that's a TROLL CUT....
Normally he sits around naked playing "Age of Empires IV, Crush the Evil Penguin"
He has a TENS device hooked to his penis and when he plunges a rusty spear through the heart of the Penguin king he gets 20,000 volts on HIS spear.
Wow! I can't bear to picture that one...
and I LOVE it compared to M$..
.0's (dot-ohs) .0's ALWAYS suck. ALWAYS.
It's just good stuff.
I started on 8.2 and just about the time I got it good and screwed up 9.0 came out. Well, that sucked pretty much, so much that I tried to switch to suse 8.1 Suse 8.1 had some problem with my mobo so I went back to 9.0
A few weeks later 9.1 was out and since then it's been great.
I've put several friends and family members on it and they like it too. And they went cold turkey from M$ to Linux. They are still and always will be lost, but they were anyway. Better to be lost on the same island as your support guy though eh??
I had to learn and old lesson that I had forgotten from the DOS days. Stay away from
As far as I'm concerned, I think I'll stay with Mandrake 9.1 even if they do come out with 9.2 or 9.3 or 10.0...
I don't want M$ compatibility in my Linux. I do not want it. Please, please don't push it in on us, don't force it on us, don't sneak it in on us. We want absolute freedom from the tyranny of M$...
Thank you Mandrake..
When did this happen??
I've got an nvidia card and Linux.
I just checked on the drivers update status a few weeks ago and they still had Linux drivers for download. Matter of fact I just now went there and here's what they have.
From Nivida.com downloads,
"Linux Graphics Driver Download
Version: 1.0-4363
Operating System: Linux IA32
Release Date: April 24, 2003"
Are they now *NOT* going to support Linux in future hardware and not release new and improved drivers for existing cards and customers???
Damn!
At last! The very thing I dreamed about in high school! A fart powered computer!!
Wow! The only thing that scares me is, how do you "gas" it up?? (please, no goatse.cx references!)
"After ATI win a MS contract for the next Xbox, they now don't support linux drivers."
No shit? I heard that ATI was dropping Linux support but, uh, this smells..
That should be illegal..
Of angry villagers, marching up the road with pitchforks and torches in hand.
Er, what's the name of that street in Redmond??
Not any more....
You miss the point.
I state that it is WRONG to penalize *ME* for *YOUR* sins.
I do not engage the afore mentioned activites, therefore it is wrong and unjust to punish *me* for what *others* do...
have 6 or 7 holes in every wall with in the house with blue wires hanging out of them.
Wall plates? "We don need no steenkin wallplates!"
Really now, why would anyone plan out a home network? That takes all the fun out ot it!
I mean what's more fun than pulling wires at the last minute when you really have to have that wire.
And then trying to untangle the whole thing when you have to trouble shoot it!
Real men have huge tangled and matted nests of wires and they KNOW what every wire is!
Well I think that anything that is being taxed that way should be clearly marked a such.
This is taxation without representation.
It should be illegal to penalize people that do not break the law.
Even an accused murderer is afforded the benefit of the doubt and is made to stand trial before paying the penalty for his transgressions/crime(s).
Thank you.
I feel less ignorant now. I'm not up on all the trendy things..
I was thinking it had something to do with Indian music (as in the country)..
Duh...
What's a "Britney Spears"??
Is it contagious?
Linux users can't catch it can they??
Well, I don't buy audio cassette. Don't use them, haven't used them for years. I listen to AM radio (news) in the car, not music. Could care less if the car even had an FM radio or not. Prefer that it did not because I have no use for it..
As for video tapes, well, at $9 for 10 blanks at Wally World, well, OUCH. Big tax there.
I was never aware that there was a "theft tax" applied to video tapes in the first place.
Besides, I don't video tape things anymore, I quit watching TV a few years ago. TV is a sewer anyway.
BULLSHIT..
Why should ** I ** have to pay for the sins of others?
I'm not Jesus and I won't pay for *YOUR* sins...
Think about it. It's wrong..
Bad concept, bad idea, just flat out wrong.
Pardon my ignorance but I have to ask, what is an "indie musician" ??? I see this term used a lot..
I'm just not in the "up to date" crowd...