From reading comments on the article and the article itself, I've got the impression that we don't have all the facts. From where I see it, it breaks down like this
If Doe registered the E-Mail address ronald.fitch@isp.net then it's not identity theft, he's just being a dick.
If Doe altered his header information to have his name appear in E-Mail clients as "Ronald Fitch" rather than "John Doe" (aka "Pulling a Burke"), then he's just a dick, and it's not Identity Theft.
If Doe registered for an E-Mail account at an ISP and, on the forms, said his name was Ronald Fitch, then at least he can be charged with fraud - by the ISP. Identity Theft charges are up to debate.
If John Doe not only gave Ronald Fitch's name to the ISP as his name when he signed up, but also set up billing so that Fitch was billed (or would be called if Doe failed to pay), then that would count as both fraud and, most likely, identity theft.
So, is anyone from Maine, or even better, the community where this whole disturbance is taking place on Slashdot? If so, please enlighten us.
Those have been challeneged in court, and the laws stand. Telemarketing used to be a minor annoyance, and it grew and grew until we ended up with the Do Not Call list.
Ahh... but you see, that is not technically "banning" telemarketing. If you're not on the list, you still get calls. It's more of an "opt-out" list. The fax spam band stands because, due to how the fax system works, the people receiving the spam would have to pay for receiving the spam. It doesn't work that way for E-Mail Spam (you don't end up paying more for receiving spam, unless the sheer volume received requires you to pay for a larger inbox with your provider.)
He's in an apartment. Okay - if your landlord/manager doesn't mind, follow the parent's advice. If not, well, you can always run cables across the floor. It could be a tripping hazard if there isn't enough slack in the cables though.
Ehhh... No. More likely there'd be serious free speech issues involved with banning spam entirely. I sincerely doubt that the companies that employ spammmers, especially porn spammers, make enough money to make it worth their while to buy a congressman. If they did, there'd have been a lot more resistance in congress to the FCC's crackdown on offencive conduct after the "Wardrobe Malfunction".
Not all guys, but there are probably some guys who like seeing naked women in a kiddy pool full of mystery meat (just like they seeing a nekkid Natilie Portman lying amongst hot grits).
Those people are probably also turned on by goatse and/or tubgirl.
I figure that, as they were spamming US Citizens, the FTC's argument is that they were doing business inside the United States, and thus are bound to follow US laws when doing so.
Well, Goonies had that nice video cast commentary (Commentary could have been better, as people were talking over each other). But otherwise, as a DVD (not as a movie) yeah, it wasn't that good. It probably could have been lower on the list.
Well, in Oregon, it's a little different. The Identity Theves and Meth Cooks/Addicts (which are usually both) go in jail for a few days and then get let right back out again.
Personally, I think this whole thing will go the way of the last "Hacker Crackdown". There'll be a lot of buzz, a push for new legislation championed by big business (Ma Bell then, **AA/BSA now), and then it'll slowly fade to the background.
And when some third-party developers write buggy code, they really write buggy code. Remember "Return to the Pool of Radience: Ruins of Myth Drannor". Now that was a buggy game!
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You and I survived these long car rides with books, games, puppets, imagination and long period of staring out the window (a great time for day dreaming and thinking, and I still do it). We didn't have this constant stream of stimulation being pushed at us, and we survived fine.
Well, I did that too, except for trips to the beach. Then we had that nice, long, winding road through the coast range which did not necessarily make reading while the car was in motion a good idea (motion sickness anyone?)
Then again, I don't see how you could avoid the motion sickness problem with an in-car TV either.
However, you need to understand it to do your job right, otherwise you could end up in a dangerous situation.
Possibly unrelated, but I don't think so: One of my local newspapers, the Portland Tribune, did a series of articles on the Portland Police's campaign against Meth Labs (if we need to stop the spread of any one drug, Meth would be it). Officers ended up with serious health problems due to the exposure to the chemicals used in the production of Meth and their bi-products. The reason this happened was because Portland law-enforcement was ignorant to what the police raiding meth labs were getting into.
How does this relate to the article? Well, ignorance is a curable disease, and the people responsible for enforcing the law should be educated in some of what to expect when investigating the cases they were assigned.
Let's not forget those virus writer(s) who were able to get off lightly for writing catistrophic viruses because of legal loopholes in third world countries. If India wants to be part of the new information economy, it's laws, regulations, and how they are enforced need to adapt.
I work a computer tutor at a community college. I run into people like this all the time. Today I had to help a student (one in his late 50's early 60's) who didn't recognize that the computer wasn't turned on. I've also had to help older students (late 60's, early 70's) do such things as creating folders.
And there's the constant matter of people who try to do Instant Messanging in the lab despite the fact that we don't allow IMing in the lab. And then they try to play the tutors for stupid by closing the window but not closing the program in the system tray.
Bill, baybe, listen. It's not that we're comunnists, it's that we don't like being ripped off. When your company stops helping the people who rip us off, and stops ripping us off itself by putting out buggy-ass operating systems, and stops trying to stomp the shit out of it's competition, then we might consider actually paying for your (non-game) products. But until then, Bill, you can kiss my ass.
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- If Doe registered the E-Mail address ronald.fitch@isp.net then it's not identity theft, he's just being a dick.
- If Doe altered his header information to have his name appear in E-Mail clients as "Ronald Fitch" rather than "John Doe" (aka "Pulling a Burke"), then he's just a dick, and it's not Identity Theft.
- If Doe registered for an E-Mail account at an ISP and, on the forms, said his name was Ronald Fitch, then at least he can be charged with fraud - by the ISP. Identity Theft charges are up to debate.
- If John Doe not only gave Ronald Fitch's name to the ISP as his name when he signed up, but also set up billing so that Fitch was billed (or would be called if Doe failed to pay), then that would count as both fraud and, most likely, identity theft.
So, is anyone from Maine, or even better, the community where this whole disturbance is taking place on Slashdot? If so, please enlighten us.Ahh... but you see, that is not technically "banning" telemarketing. If you're not on the list, you still get calls. It's more of an "opt-out" list. The fax spam band stands because, due to how the fax system works, the people receiving the spam would have to pay for receiving the spam. It doesn't work that way for E-Mail Spam (you don't end up paying more for receiving spam, unless the sheer volume received requires you to pay for a larger inbox with your provider.)
He's in an apartment. Okay - if your landlord/manager doesn't mind, follow the parent's advice. If not, well, you can always run cables across the floor. It could be a tripping hazard if there isn't enough slack in the cables though.
Hey! What's wrong with curry? A nice Curry tuna sandwich spread on some good Black-Bean-and-Salsa bread. Mmmm... now that's some good eatin'.
You might want to loosen your tinfoil hat some.
Not always. I've received porn spam without any pictures at all.
Gee, I don't know, maybe because the porn spammers have more volume?
Those people are probably also turned on by goatse and/or tubgirl.
I'm seriously hoping the FTC wins this suit.
I think EA's got that one too. I can't find any articles to support that hunch though. Anyone want to help out?
Well, Goonies had that nice video cast commentary (Commentary could have been better, as people were talking over each other). But otherwise, as a DVD (not as a movie) yeah, it wasn't that good. It probably could have been lower on the list.
Sold out in three... two... one...
Don't you mean "fsck it"?
Personally, I think this whole thing will go the way of the last "Hacker Crackdown". There'll be a lot of buzz, a push for new legislation championed by big business (Ma Bell then, **AA/BSA now), and then it'll slowly fade to the background.
Well, that depends. I bet most Canadians are pretty nice to be around. The exception to the rule being (from what I've heard) Quebec.
And when some third-party developers write buggy code, they really write buggy code. Remember "Return to the Pool of Radience: Ruins of Myth Drannor". Now that was a buggy game!
Well, I did that too, except for trips to the beach. Then we had that nice, long, winding road through the coast range which did not necessarily make reading while the car was in motion a good idea (motion sickness anyone?)
Then again, I don't see how you could avoid the motion sickness problem with an in-car TV either.
Possibly unrelated, but I don't think so: One of my local newspapers, the Portland Tribune, did a series of articles on the Portland Police's campaign against Meth Labs (if we need to stop the spread of any one drug, Meth would be it). Officers ended up with serious health problems due to the exposure to the chemicals used in the production of Meth and their bi-products. The reason this happened was because Portland law-enforcement was ignorant to what the police raiding meth labs were getting into.
How does this relate to the article? Well, ignorance is a curable disease, and the people responsible for enforcing the law should be educated in some of what to expect when investigating the cases they were assigned.
Let's not forget those virus writer(s) who were able to get off lightly for writing catistrophic viruses because of legal loopholes in third world countries. If India wants to be part of the new information economy, it's laws, regulations, and how they are enforced need to adapt.
And there's the constant matter of people who try to do Instant Messanging in the lab despite the fact that we don't allow IMing in the lab. And then they try to play the tutors for stupid by closing the window but not closing the program in the system tray.
Ehh, Girly Bram is kind of creepier.
As a thought, Microsoft may be intending to build anti-virus and anti-spyware software into future versions of Windows.
Yeah, they release a new patch every five seconds!
Bill, baybe, listen. It's not that we're comunnists, it's that we don't like being ripped off. When your company stops helping the people who rip us off, and stops ripping us off itself by putting out buggy-ass operating systems, and stops trying to stomp the shit out of it's competition, then we might consider actually paying for your (non-game) products. But until then, Bill, you can kiss my ass.
They're quite happy with the whole arrangemetn in the Dimention of Grief too.