Secondly, the article talks of an interim release. They wouldn't want to call something that breaks compatibility a service pack.
They probably want to build in a bunch of support for cooly new hardware. Pretty much like Windows 98 SE, they needed an update bigger than a service pack to get USB, etc, working..
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Well, then, let me rephrase my question.
Why spend that much effort and time on a router/firewall box, and not a really cool uberPC to drag around to LANs and show off?
That would be like me spending a couple thousand dollars to have the sump pump in my basement custom painted.
Myself, I'd say fuck slashdot users and let the site be dead for the duration of their 15 minute attention span (about as long as it takes for another article), rather than pay through the nose for bandwidth and server hardware that will be idle 99.99999% of the time.
But that's just me.
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The case looks really sweet..
But I don't understand spending all that time and attention to a really cool case, just to put a gutless MiniITX board in it..
I mean, for the space, you could easily put even a lower-end athlon or P4, 2 ghz or so.. They don't get unreasonably hot, and are easy enough to cool..
I just picture showing off my really cool case, and then my audience looking at the screen and seeing the latest Star Trek game at 640x480 running at about 2 fps..
It's kind of like spending a year making a totally sweet hot rod chassis, then sticking the engine from a pontiac firefly in it.
The guy does have a point. The description of the patches gives malicious coders a good detail of what to exploit.
There are no doubt circumstances where the super-1337 h4x0r finds an exploit all on his own, I'd imagine through trial and error, but for the most part, they look at windows update and see "This patch resolves a vulnerability in WMP which could allow arbitrary code execution", and they write an exploit for the unpatched boxes.
The MSDN knowledge base is a great source for folks looking for exploits, they very often have step-by-step directions to reproduce the problems.
That's how you get root on linux boxes too, you find people still running an older kernel version, or an old sendmail, ssh, whatever, and hit the known exploits for that version.
And if you want a more secure system, yeah, upgrade. It works that way no matter what your personal philosopy behind your OS choice.
I thought the PSP as a portable PSX, and played PSX titles.. Guess not, that would have been cool.
I guess it's another cartridge based handheld for GameBoy to lay waste to. I seriously doubt it will succeed where Lynx, GameGear, Nomad, TGXpress, NeoGeo Pocket, Game.com, and now NGage have failed.
But I would have bought a handheld PSX. Maybe PSX hardware is just too easy to hack?
There are some who wont use this no matter how much of photoshop it copies, because of the name.
Why not call it the CRIPPLE, the JERRYSKID or the RETARD?
The OSS community needs to grow up to be taken seriously. What does the GPL say about rereleasing it with a less childish name, and nowhere stating that the forked project has anything to do with GIMP?
Hummers aren't that pricy, as far as corporate vehicles go. You need something to take investors out to power lunches in. If Hummer was the image they were looking for, good for them.
Would you feel better if it was a Bentley or something?
Why are slashdotters so personally offended by all this.
Yeah, having money means buying some cool shit. They had over 400 million in capital, not just start up capital. They were making it had over fist, they had no idea Universal was going to sue them for everything they had, and win..
Why the hell would anyone waste limited start-up funds on hummers unless they weren't serious about seeing the company succeed in the first place?
Either that, or so convinced that they couldnt fail.
To play devil's advocate.. The.com boom was a hiring frenzy, good programmers were in demand everywhere. So all the goodies and the arcade and company hummer, etc, served as much to entice talent.
Reminds me of the Atari of the late 70s. They made it a mission to make Atari the "coolest place to work", hot tubs, live bands in the cafeteria, etc.. The idea was that the best and brightest, and most creative, kids coming out of college would chomp at the bit to come work for them... And they did.
Of course the bottom fell out of the video game industry in 83, and Atari really dropped the ball (producing more ET game carts than there were Atari systems to play them on wasn't bright) much like the bubble of the 'net burst. But they really didn't see that coming, they saw their company as 'the next big thing'.
If you wanted the best and brightest in a tight labor market, you aren't going to get it with rows of grey cubicles and Office Depot task chairs.
Academic free speech is a damn lie. Try to discuss & debate Nature's Time Cube and your evil teachers will not allow you. Ignorance of Time Cube dooms humans,
inflicting their own created "word hell". Educators are actually "evil word gods", teaching commercial plunder of Nature. The damn bastards suppress free speech,
by denying Time Cube debate discussion. Students MUST DEMAND free speech -
for the greatest of all human discoveries: Nature's Harmonic Simultaneous 4 Day Rotating Creation Principle of Cubicism. Educated stupid, you can't know Truth.
Any dumb ass should know that a prime meridian does not just pass through the Greenwich point, but it also passes as a great circle through both poles, crossing the equator at 2 opposite points, dividing Earth into 2 halves of light and darkness, with each its own 24 hour rotation - in a single rotation of Earth. You should know that harmonic symmetry demands a second great circle meridian to create sunup and sundown corner quadrants? There are 4 simultaneous 24 hour days within a single rotation of the Earth. You may be too damn evil to accept it.
Why not? Isn't hacking just making something do it wasn't designed to to, or improving the way it does what it was designed to do?
Back when, my Commodore 1541 disk drive (1st gen with the built in PSU) would overheat all the time. They all would, it was a design flaw. One day I jammed unsharpened pencils into the screw holes, putting it on stilts. Never had any overheating problems, plenty of airflow.
That was a simple hack, and the fact that I told my friends what I did, and they all did the exact same thing doesnt diminish it. Hell, I'm sure millions of other folks came up with the same, or similar idea.
No kidding.. "Frankly I don't want Budweiser to know when I buy their beer!"
I mean, frankly, Budweiser doesnt give a shit about the individuals who buy beer... They give a shit that Coors is outselling them by a wide margin in east Cincinnati, and they might want to know "How can we better appeal to Linux zealots?"
But tracking individual beer drinking habits? For what purpose? That's just pissing away resources..
Slashbots should take off the tinfoil hats and appreciate this for the cool and complex data-mining system that it is.
But how uncommon is my hardware? 1st gen Radeon card, SB Live, linksys net card (tulip.o), HP printer, USB mouse..
I keep hearing about how linux is fussy with obscure or "non-standard" hardware, but how much more fucking standard does it get than that, for a relatively modern computer?
Do I really have to roll back to my old Cirrus Logic 5434 1 meg video card, adlib sound, dot matrix (ascii only) printer on a 486sx to experience an effortless linux install?
Hopefully IBM fixes this bullshit. Or some other big software corp. Only a cadre of managers, testers, usability consultants and marketers can pull linux from the muck its in. It's a fact, like it or not.
Sure linux can be affected by viruses. All those linux based web/ftp servers are like the typhoid mary's of the internet.
What admin wouldnt want to make sure none of the files on his public shareware ftp are infected or corrupted?
As linux increases in popularity, I have no doubt we'll see an increase in viruses/trojans/etc targetted for it. Hell, the modern virus spreads by having a clueless user execute it. When the clueless users are on linux, so too will be the viruses.
I always assumed that they stopped shipping MSAV because they didn't want to deal with constantly updating virus defs.
Personally, Norton and MacAfee be damned, I think it's good to see it back. Despite what others think, I doubt we'll see MSFT expecting subscription fees.
And dont all these slashbots want to see the worms/viruses stopped?
It's FUN working in an office full of old time "techies" and "programmers" who don't know shit about a modern PC..
My old standby is "NET SEND * ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!" or a "WILDCAT IS ON TEH SPOKE" or a "CRAMAK GONNA FIX IT!" or other such geek in-joke nonsense.
Noone knows where the messages came from (I change my computers ident to something like "CPU-CORE" to make it look official).
The best use of it was when a kid who worked here for about a month was fired, I changed my PC's name to his login ID, and started NET SENDing messages like "FIRE ME, WILL YA? YOU'll BE SORRY MOTHERFUCKERS!!!"..
They pulled plugs out of the T1 demarq spot, unplugged all the modem lines, disabled the WiFi module we use to test our mobile apps, but the messages persisted!
I could hardly keep a straight face as people were bursting into my office, panic stricken, saying "He's in our computers!! He's going to delete all our files! How's he getting in! How do we stop him?"
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Reloaded is just an internal name for it..
Secondly, the article talks of an interim release. They wouldn't want to call something that breaks compatibility a service pack.
They probably want to build in a bunch of support for cooly new hardware. Pretty much like Windows 98 SE, they needed an update bigger than a service pack to get USB, etc, working..
Well, then, let me rephrase my question.
Why spend that much effort and time on a router/firewall box, and not a really cool uberPC to drag around to LANs and show off?
That would be like me spending a couple thousand dollars to have the sump pump in my basement custom painted.
A cube is a fairly inefficient shape, it wastes volume. Why wasnt it a borg sphere?
Myself, I'd say fuck slashdot users and let the site be dead for the duration of their 15 minute attention span (about as long as it takes for another article), rather than pay through the nose for bandwidth and server hardware that will be idle 99.99999% of the time.
But that's just me.
The case looks really sweet..
But I don't understand spending all that time and attention to a really cool case, just to put a gutless MiniITX board in it..
I mean, for the space, you could easily put even a lower-end athlon or P4, 2 ghz or so.. They don't get unreasonably hot, and are easy enough to cool..
I just picture showing off my really cool case, and then my audience looking at the screen and seeing the latest Star Trek game at 640x480 running at about 2 fps..
It's kind of like spending a year making a totally sweet hot rod chassis, then sticking the engine from a pontiac firefly in it.
I just dont get it.
Where he give some stats/benchmarks/observations as to how this thing performs, and if it was at all worth it?
Those 800s are so gutless they can just barely playback a DVD, I can't see exactly what application you would give this cluster.
Mini-ITX really isnt THAT much smaller than some FlexATX boards, most notably shuttle's offerings..
You just have to find a way to dissipate the heat, the heatpipe setup in Shuttle's latest line of barebones is pretty clever.
As for the Mini-ITX cluster, it's kind of a joke. You may as well just cluster old 486 boards, it'd be cheaper, they can be had for a buck or so..
You'd probably have to cluster a dozen of them together to equal one 3.6 p4.
The guy does have a point. The description of the patches gives malicious coders a good detail of what to exploit.
There are no doubt circumstances where the super-1337 h4x0r finds an exploit all on his own, I'd imagine through trial and error, but for the most part, they look at windows update and see "This patch resolves a vulnerability in WMP which could allow arbitrary code execution", and they write an exploit for the unpatched boxes.
The MSDN knowledge base is a great source for folks looking for exploits, they very often have step-by-step directions to reproduce the problems.
That's how you get root on linux boxes too, you find people still running an older kernel version, or an old sendmail, ssh, whatever, and hit the known exploits for that version.
And if you want a more secure system, yeah, upgrade. It works that way no matter what your personal philosopy behind your OS choice.
I thought the PSP as a portable PSX, and played PSX titles.. Guess not, that would have been cool.
I guess it's another cartridge based handheld for GameBoy to lay waste to. I seriously doubt it will succeed where Lynx, GameGear, Nomad, TGXpress, NeoGeo Pocket, Game.com, and now NGage have failed.
But I would have bought a handheld PSX. Maybe PSX hardware is just too easy to hack?
Us Mac owners only have one mouse button, you insensitive clod!
There are some who wont use this no matter how much of photoshop it copies, because of the name.
Why not call it the CRIPPLE, the JERRYSKID or the RETARD?
The OSS community needs to grow up to be taken seriously. What does the GPL say about rereleasing it with a less childish name, and nowhere stating that the forked project has anything to do with GIMP?
Hummers aren't that pricy, as far as corporate vehicles go. You need something to take investors out to power lunches in. If Hummer was the image they were looking for, good for them.
Would you feel better if it was a Bentley or something?
Why are slashdotters so personally offended by all this.
Yeah, having money means buying some cool shit. They had over 400 million in capital, not just start up capital. They were making it had over fist, they had no idea Universal was going to sue them for everything they had, and win..
Big deal, business fails.
Why the hell would anyone waste limited start-up funds on hummers unless they weren't serious about seeing the company succeed in the first place?
.com boom was a hiring frenzy, good programmers were in demand everywhere. So all the goodies and the arcade and company hummer, etc, served as much to entice talent.
Either that, or so convinced that they couldnt fail.
To play devil's advocate.. The
Reminds me of the Atari of the late 70s. They made it a mission to make Atari the "coolest place to work", hot tubs, live bands in the cafeteria, etc.. The idea was that the best and brightest, and most creative, kids coming out of college would chomp at the bit to come work for them... And they did.
Of course the bottom fell out of the video game industry in 83, and Atari really dropped the ball (producing more ET game carts than there were Atari systems to play them on wasn't bright) much like the bubble of the 'net burst. But they really didn't see that coming, they saw their company as 'the next big thing'.
If you wanted the best and brightest in a tight labor market, you aren't going to get it with rows of grey cubicles and Office Depot task chairs.
More than a few, they had a 10,000 sq foot arcade full of pool tables, foosball and arcade cabinets.
I'd proably bid on a couple of the machines, but crating and shipping to the east coast would cost more than they're worth.
Academic free speech is a damn lie. Try
to discuss & debate Nature's Time Cube
and your evil teachers will not allow you.
Ignorance of Time Cube dooms humans,
inflicting their own created "word hell".
Educators are actually "evil word gods",
teaching commercial plunder of Nature.
The damn bastards suppress free speech,
by denying Time Cube debate discussion.
Students MUST DEMAND free speech -
for the greatest of all human discoveries:
Nature's Harmonic Simultaneous 4 Day
Rotating Creation Principle of Cubicism.
Educated stupid, you can't know Truth.
Any dumb ass should know that a prime
meridian does not just pass through the
Greenwich point, but it also passes as a
great circle through both poles, crossing
the equator at 2 opposite points, dividing
Earth into 2 halves of light and darkness,
with each its own 24 hour rotation - in a
single rotation of Earth. You should know
that harmonic symmetry demands a
second great circle meridian to create
sunup and sundown corner quadrants?
There are 4 simultaneous 24 hour days
within a single rotation of the Earth.
You may be too damn evil to accept it.
Why not? Isn't hacking just making something do it wasn't designed to to, or improving the way it does what it was designed to do?
Back when, my Commodore 1541 disk drive (1st gen with the built in PSU) would overheat all the time. They all would, it was a design flaw. One day I jammed unsharpened pencils into the screw holes, putting it on stilts. Never had any overheating problems, plenty of airflow.
That was a simple hack, and the fact that I told my friends what I did, and they all did the exact same thing doesnt diminish it. Hell, I'm sure millions of other folks came up with the same, or similar idea.
Know what, they track their inventory too!
ITS A FRIGGIN MY RIGHTS ONLINE THING!!!
Damn government people tracking inventory and sales!
No kidding.. "Frankly I don't want Budweiser to know when I buy their beer!"
I mean, frankly, Budweiser doesnt give a shit about the individuals who buy beer... They give a shit that Coors is outselling them by a wide margin in east Cincinnati, and they might want to know "How can we better appeal to Linux zealots?"
But tracking individual beer drinking habits? For what purpose? That's just pissing away resources..
Slashbots should take off the tinfoil hats and appreciate this for the cool and complex data-mining system that it is.
But how uncommon is my hardware? 1st gen Radeon card, SB Live, linksys net card (tulip.o), HP printer, USB mouse..
I keep hearing about how linux is fussy with obscure or "non-standard" hardware, but how much more fucking standard does it get than that, for a relatively modern computer?
Do I really have to roll back to my old Cirrus Logic 5434 1 meg video card, adlib sound, dot matrix (ascii only) printer on a 486sx to experience an effortless linux install?
Hopefully IBM fixes this bullshit. Or some other big software corp. Only a cadre of managers, testers, usability consultants and marketers can pull linux from the muck its in. It's a fact, like it or not.
You're only partially correct.
here.
The british bill of rights was used as a model for the constitution, but it wasn't enough.
The American bill of rights was based on the earlier Virginia declaration of rights.
Show me an example of Microsoft suing anyone for patent infringement.
They haven't. They don't do business that way.
There are plenty of folks suing them over frivolous patents. Perhaps their latest rash of applications are more defensive than offensive.
Sure linux can be affected by viruses. All those linux based web/ftp servers are like the typhoid mary's of the internet.
What admin wouldnt want to make sure none of the files on his public shareware ftp are infected or corrupted?
As linux increases in popularity, I have no doubt we'll see an increase in viruses/trojans/etc targetted for it. Hell, the modern virus spreads by having a clueless user execute it. When the clueless users are on linux, so too will be the viruses.
I always assumed that they stopped shipping MSAV because they didn't want to deal with constantly updating virus defs.
Personally, Norton and MacAfee be damned, I think it's good to see it back. Despite what others think, I doubt we'll see MSFT expecting subscription fees.
And dont all these slashbots want to see the worms/viruses stopped?
It's FUN working in an office full of old time "techies" and "programmers" who don't know shit about a modern PC..
My old standby is "NET SEND * ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!" or a "WILDCAT IS ON TEH SPOKE" or a "CRAMAK GONNA FIX IT!" or other such geek in-joke nonsense.
Noone knows where the messages came from (I change my computers ident to something like "CPU-CORE" to make it look official).
The best use of it was when a kid who worked here for about a month was fired, I changed my PC's name to his login ID, and started NET SENDing messages like "FIRE ME, WILL YA? YOU'll BE SORRY MOTHERFUCKERS!!!"..
They pulled plugs out of the T1 demarq spot, unplugged all the modem lines, disabled the WiFi module we use to test our mobile apps, but the messages persisted!
I could hardly keep a straight face as people were bursting into my office, panic stricken, saying "He's in our computers!! He's going to delete all our files! How's he getting in! How do we stop him?"