Yes, I too am angry that we still have crap support, but if you paid close attention to their press releases and announcements, they never said that xfree86 4.0 would include support. They said that shortly after the official release date of XFree86 4.0, they would be releasing a full implimentation. Which means that we should be receiving our driver within 2 weeks, or I follow step 8.
Let's say you're an agent in a competing agency, and you're local to this area at the moment. Wouldn't you be trying frantically to get this laptop before it's returned or discovered? And if you're in a competing agency, you might just have the technology to decrypt it in a timely fashion.
We're the guys who are always talking about how the NSA has such amazing technology and can decrypt things sooo much faster than we or distributed.net can come close to, aren't we?
That's a good point, but occasionally there is just one incompatible device, with drivers only available for windows OS's, and that can be the only reason not to use a *nix. If I've got, bad example here, but lets say i've got a weird scsi interface that has only drivers for NT. I can't use *nix then can I?
Sometimes there are reasons to give up a bit of stability and speed.
Personally I think that e-mailing him might be a Bad Idea (TM), as he's likely to receive more flames than he would receive well thought-out, constructive e-mails. But if he dropped the suit, that would definitely be a good thing, I agree with you there.
Didn't read it, so i don't know how relevant it is to this particular thing... but it's not offtopic so please don't mod me down i'm a karma whore... heh.
yes, i'm on a cablemodem and get impatient with things when they don't show up right away... often that means i hit "stop" and try the link (or button as the case may be) again, without thinking. Apologies for redundancies, and to think i didn't even have anything good to say in the first place.
Yep... but what does that matter? Why should Germany care if France gets that Illegal copy of that Polish music? heh... couldn't think of any better reference, but that doesn't mean i should be moderated down.
Yep... but what does that matter? Why should Germany care if France gets that Illegal copy of that Polish music? heh... couldn't think of any better reference, but that doesn't mean i should be moderated down.
Also gnapster is my favorite client, list of a lot more if you query freshmeat for napster, and on the server side there's Opennap
...rather than the one central Napster server
The official napster servers are many, more than 10 and less than 1000... (someone wanna narrow it down?), and are not linked yet... so one central Napster server doesn't describe the structure well.
If you're looking for an OS to do audio editing on, you should have a serious look at BeOS. BeOS is extremely dedicated to audio editing and multimedia in general. Running a search for MIDI at bebits.com reveals about 3 pages of results.
Later this month, BeOS Revision 5 will be released, free for non-commercial use. Details are sketchy, but it does sound like you will need to be running windows in order to use the free version. (Kinda like a UMSDOS Installation of linux.) Wait until later this month to make your decision, download Free Be, and try it out. (Will only be about a 60 meg download.) If you like it, you might consider buying the OS.
Das ist die [worst] Deutsch dass ich habe gesehen in my entire life. Sorry for replying to a flame, but if you don't speak german and you want to flame in German, at the very least go to babelfish and have it do it for you. I know for a fact that even Babelfish isn't that bad. For instance: NOWE, WILL NUKEN DICH, and what's with all of the ISH's. I don't speak german very well but I know that this is not good german. Now feel free to moderate me down, I expect it, so don't feel bad. Just had to say it. BTW if you're gonna flame me, do it in e-mail not on/., don't bother wasting space.
Slackware went to 7.0 (its my distro. of choice but still the move was uncalled for).
I have to disagree with you there. To us linux guys, the move was unneccesary... but to the media and the newbie masses, it says "Slackware isn't 2 versions behind anymore." Now I'll agree that several major distro's haven't inflated their version numbers (Debian, Caldera(?) for instance) but that doesn't mean that lazy computer guys like me and the guys who created slackware should have to put up with crap. Consider the following quote from the slackware website:
Q: Why the jump from 4 to 7?
The following was posted to the Slackware.com Forum by Patrick Volkerding (Slackware Project Lead), at 21:43 10-10-1999.
I've stayed out of this for now, but I do think I should lend a little justification to the version number thing.
First off, I think I forgot to count some time ago. If I'd started on 6.0 and made every release a major version (I think that's how Linux releases are made these days, right?;), we would be on Slackware 47 by now. (it would actually be in the 20s somewhere if we'd gone 1, 2, 3...)
I think it's clear that some other distributions inflated their version numbers for marketing purposes, and I've had to field (way too many times) the question "why isn't yours 6.x" or worse "when will you upgrade to Linux 6.0" which really drives home the effectiveness of this simple trick. With the move to glibc and nearly everyone else using 6.x now, it made sense to go to at least 6.0, just to make it clear to people who don't know anything about Linux that Slackware's libraries, compilers, and other stuff are not 3 major versions behind. I thought they'd all be using 7.0 by now, but no matter. We're at least "one better", right?:)
Sorry if I haven't been enough of a purist about this. I promise I won't inflate the version number again (unless everyone else does again;)
Seems to me it's a little bit of that linux elitist in some of us (including me) that caused it, mainly unwillingness to put up with dumb questions. I think this was a good solution to it.
Yes, moderating them down would give them attention... like responding to them. More likely the moderation points are being put toward a good use like moderating up some comments that are good, rather than being wasted on ford spam:-)
You want every game to have a linux port before you switch over? I think that's a little unreallistic, I mean windows doesn't have every game there is either.
I think a better, more reallistic goal (in the near future) is 80% or more. The way I see it, the more games that are ported to linux the less likely people are to decide not to use linux based on lack of games. So more people will come, and the user base will grow, more companies will port, more users will come... you get the idea. But I think that until Linux has about 30%+ of the desktop market, companies will not always consider it a neccesity to have a linux version available.
most games played today are either console games or games on windows
This is an interesting point... I don't consider console games in normal thought, as I do not own a console system (actually I have a Genesis that I haven't used in years...) I do all of my gaming on PC because of the nifty graphics and because I spend so much money on my PC that I'm not about to go out and buy a console system... but I think consoles will be around for a long time, and will probably hold a large part of the market regardless of linux ports. I don't feel that consoles will detract from linux ports. [[END RANT]]
Pardon me? a lot of shells? Haha... I don't think that 30 or 50 shells could make a dent in yahoo... (I can learn, correct me if i'm wrong... don't flame:-)). More likely this was a distributed smurfing (or somethin else semi-similar). If it didn't take intelligence, i guarantee it took preparation. I would place money on the fact that a lot of misconfigured routers were exploited to do this.
NOTE: sorry for responding to a troll... I expect to be either moderated down or not moderated up, so don't feel bad.
void rant(){ printf("Correct me if I'm wrong, but slashdot is run by linux nerds, not BSD nerds, or any other OS nerds. I like to think of slashdot as a linux site. Why would linux nerds not run linux on their website? Wouldn't that be a little hypocritical? (heh MS and their www.microsoft.com running on freebsd... We can't trust our own software so why should you?)
Also, what's wrong with linux? More importantly, what's wrong with supporting linux by running your site on it? We have freedom of choice here, don't we?"); }
Now I can REALLY say this comment powered by printf:-)
If you don't, you are guilty of tax fraud and will go to jail.
Hold on a sec... there is a difference between "can go to jail" and "will go to jail". It's unlikely that the state government will send you to jail over a mail order computer game from Loki that you didn't pay them sales tax on. I suppose if you did something to piss off a person in power (that wasn't illegal) and they were looking for something to throw you in jail over, they might turn something like this up, but that's the only circumstance I can see anyone being jailed over something like this for.
UCITA is a law that would allow a one-sided contract... the user has responsibilities, but the software companies can remove their own responsibilities. Such a law would be shot down in the courts during the first trial ever brought up by it. These licences would be even less enforceable than the current shrink-wrap licenses... "You must pay this much for our software, you may not redistribute, reverse engineer, install, or use the software, and you may not have a refund because our software lived up to it's responsibliity of "CD-Coaster."". It would never succeed. Period.
NOTE: This doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it, if no one fights it then it MAY go through.
Whoops, forgot about that... yes, Myth 2 is an RTS but you're right, the lack of building anything (afaik from the demo also) kinda makes it less interesting to me.
Post your ideas, I'm sure that even those of us who can't (or just won't) be designing it would like to hear about them. I agree that an RTS engine would be a good idea, as I can't say I've seen any RTS's for linux except ALE-Clone (now freecraft?)
Well if this does happen, I wanna know about it...:-) I'll be happy to try out some alpha (and of course beta) releases. (I live on beta...)
Hey, every project has some bugs, and Cmdrtaco couldn't really let us test it before he released it, could he? I don't know if you noticed, but the version number was Slash V0.9. This means it was NOT the 1.0 release. Understand? If you don't like it, then either just live with it, help fix what's wrong, or write your own code:-). Note: not meant as a flame, sorry if it came off that way...
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Yes, I too am angry that we still have crap support, but if you paid close attention to their press releases and announcements, they never said that xfree86 4.0 would include support. They said that shortly after the official release date of XFree86 4.0, they would be releasing a full implimentation. Which means that we should be receiving our driver within 2 weeks, or I follow step 8.
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We're the guys who are always talking about how the NSA has such amazing technology and can decrypt things sooo much faster than we or distributed.net can come close to, aren't we?
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Sometimes there are reasons to give up a bit of stability and speed.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Personally I think that e-mailing him might be a Bad Idea (TM), as he's likely to receive more flames than he would receive well thought-out, constructive e-mails. But if he dropped the suit, that would definitely be a good thing, I agree with you there.
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heh a beowulf of Celera... actually that sounds like the plural of Celeron...
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X-ING A PARAGRAB
Didn't read it, so i don't know how relevant it is to this particular thing... but it's not offtopic so please don't mod me down i'm a karma whore... heh.
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i know that's happened before, but it didnt' work this time...
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yes, i'm on a cablemodem and get impatient with things when they don't show up right away... often that means i hit "stop" and try the link (or button as the case may be) again, without thinking. Apologies for redundancies, and to think i didn't even have anything good to say in the first place.
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or better yet, named it "badsong.notcopyrightedmp3songs"
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Yep... but what does that matter? Why should Germany care if France gets that Illegal copy of that Polish music? heh... couldn't think of any better reference, but that doesn't mean i should be moderated down.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Yep... but what does that matter? Why should Germany care if France gets that Illegal copy of that Polish music? heh... couldn't think of any better reference, but that doesn't mean i should be moderated down.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Also gnapster is my favorite client, list of a lot more if you query freshmeat for napster, and on the server side there's Opennap
...rather than the one central Napster server
The official napster servers are many, more than 10 and less than 1000... (someone wanna narrow it down?), and are not linked yet... so one central Napster server doesn't describe the structure well.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Later this month, BeOS Revision 5 will be released, free for non-commercial use. Details are sketchy, but it does sound like you will need to be running windows in order to use the free version. (Kinda like a UMSDOS Installation of linux.) Wait until later this month to make your decision, download Free Be, and try it out. (Will only be about a 60 meg download.) If you like it, you might consider buying the OS.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Das ist die [worst] Deutsch dass ich habe gesehen in my entire life. Sorry for replying to a flame, but if you don't speak german and you want to flame in German, at the very least go to babelfish and have it do it for you. I know for a fact that even Babelfish isn't that bad. For instance: NOWE, WILL NUKEN DICH, and what's with all of the ISH's. I don't speak german very well but I know that this is not good german. Now feel free to moderate me down, I expect it, so don't feel bad. Just had to say it. BTW if you're gonna flame me, do it in e-mail not on /., don't bother wasting space.
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Someone had to say it, but here are some reasons to support my theory
- Freely distributable... "Spread it around"
- Official OS of China (don't remember if this turned out to be false...)
- Most of the licensing seems to ask developers to make programs because you need them and distribute them for the good of the community
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Slackware went to 7.0 (its my distro. of choice but still the move was uncalled for).
;), we would be on Slackware 47 by now. (it would actually be in the 20s somewhere if we'd gone 1, 2, 3...)
:)
;)
I have to disagree with you there. To us linux guys, the move was unneccesary... but to the media and the newbie masses, it says "Slackware isn't 2 versions behind anymore." Now I'll agree that several major distro's haven't inflated their version numbers (Debian, Caldera(?) for instance) but that doesn't mean that lazy computer guys like me and the guys who created slackware should have to put up with crap. Consider the following quote from the slackware website:
Q: Why the jump from 4 to 7?
The following was posted to the Slackware.com Forum by Patrick Volkerding (Slackware Project Lead), at 21:43 10-10-1999.
I've stayed out of this for now, but I do think I should lend a little justification to the version number thing.
First off, I think I forgot to count some time ago. If I'd started on 6.0 and made every release a major version (I think that's how Linux releases are made these days, right?
I think it's clear that some other distributions inflated their version numbers for marketing purposes, and I've had to field (way too many times) the question "why isn't yours 6.x" or worse "when will you upgrade to Linux 6.0" which really drives home the effectiveness of this simple trick. With the move to glibc and nearly everyone else using 6.x now, it made sense to go to at least 6.0, just to make it clear to people who don't know anything about Linux that Slackware's libraries, compilers, and other stuff are not 3 major versions behind. I thought they'd all be using 7.0 by now, but no matter. We're at least "one better", right?
Sorry if I haven't been enough of a purist about this. I promise I won't inflate the version number again (unless everyone else does again
Seems to me it's a little bit of that linux elitist in some of us (including me) that caused it, mainly unwillingness to put up with dumb questions. I think this was a good solution to it.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Yes, moderating them down would give them attention... like responding to them. More likely the moderation points are being put toward a good use like moderating up some comments that are good, rather than being wasted on ford spam :-)
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
You want every game to have a linux port before you switch over? I think that's a little unreallistic, I mean windows doesn't have every game there is either.
I think a better, more reallistic goal (in the near future) is 80% or more. The way I see it, the more games that are ported to linux the less likely people are to decide not to use linux based on lack of games. So more people will come, and the user base will grow, more companies will port, more users will come... you get the idea. But I think that until Linux has about 30%+ of the desktop market, companies will not always consider it a neccesity to have a linux version available.
most games played today are either console games or games on windows
This is an interesting point... I don't consider console games in normal thought, as I do not own a console system (actually I have a Genesis that I haven't used in years...) I do all of my gaming on PC because of the nifty graphics and because I spend so much money on my PC that I'm not about to go out and buy a console system... but I think consoles will be around for a long time, and will probably hold a large part of the market regardless of linux ports. I don't feel that consoles will detract from linux ports. [[END RANT]]
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Pardon me? a lot of shells? Haha... I don't think that 30 or 50 shells could make a dent in yahoo... (I can learn, correct me if i'm wrong... don't flame :-)). More likely this was a distributed smurfing (or somethin else semi-similar). If it didn't take intelligence, i guarantee it took preparation. I would place money on the fact that a lot of misconfigured routers were exploited to do this.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
NOTE: sorry for responding to a troll... I expect to be either moderated down or not moderated up, so don't feel bad.
:-)
void rant(){
printf("Correct me if I'm wrong, but slashdot is run by linux nerds, not BSD nerds, or any other OS nerds. I like to think of slashdot as a linux site. Why would linux nerds not run linux on their website? Wouldn't that be a little hypocritical? (heh MS and their www.microsoft.com running on freebsd... We can't trust our own software so why should you?)
Also, what's wrong with linux? More importantly, what's wrong with supporting linux by running your site on it? We have freedom of choice here, don't we?");
}
Now I can REALLY say this comment powered by printf
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
If you don't, you are guilty of tax fraud and will go to jail.
Hold on a sec... there is a difference between "can go to jail" and "will go to jail". It's unlikely that the state government will send you to jail over a mail order computer game from Loki that you didn't pay them sales tax on. I suppose if you did something to piss off a person in power (that wasn't illegal) and they were looking for something to throw you in jail over, they might turn something like this up, but that's the only circumstance I can see anyone being jailed over something like this for.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
UCITA is a law that would allow a one-sided contract... the user has responsibilities, but the software companies can remove their own responsibilities. Such a law would be shot down in the courts during the first trial ever brought up by it. These licences would be even less enforceable than the current shrink-wrap licenses... "You must pay this much for our software, you may not redistribute, reverse engineer, install, or use the software, and you may not have a refund because our software lived up to it's responsibliity of "CD-Coaster."". It would never succeed. Period.
NOTE: This doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it, if no one fights it then it MAY go through.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Whoops, forgot about that... yes, Myth 2 is an RTS but you're right, the lack of building anything (afaik from the demo also) kinda makes it less interesting to me.
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Post your ideas, I'm sure that even those of us who can't (or just won't) be designing it would like to hear about them. I agree that an RTS engine would be a good idea, as I can't say I've seen any RTS's for linux except ALE-Clone (now freecraft?)
:-) I'll be happy to try out some alpha (and of course beta) releases. (I live on beta...)
Well if this does happen, I wanna know about it...
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman
Hey, every project has some bugs, and Cmdrtaco couldn't really let us test it before he released it, could he? I don't know if you noticed, but the version number was Slash V0.9. This means it was NOT the 1.0 release. Understand? If you don't like it, then either just live with it, help fix what's wrong, or write your own code :-).
Note: not meant as a flame, sorry if it came off that way...
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linuxisgood:~$ man woman