If you're going to steal money from us to do research allegedly on our behalf it takes a helluva nerve to suggest that there need to be terms on the ways we can use it.
Every piece of software I've ever written goes into the public domain. If Bill Gates ever wants to borrow a snippet of code thats his business, if RMS wants to borrow a snippet of code thats his business. They don't tell me how I can use my code and I don't tell them how they can use their code. What's wrong with that?
There certainly are commercial unices that run on x86 hardware. Solaris x86, SCO, and I'm sure I'm missing a few others. One could also stick one of the BSDs on this hardware.
I'm just curious if you could get the same results with one of those solutions, and if so is this really a great victory for Linux or is it just a great victory for clustering?
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Its not that unproven.
Seriously, Xandros is just the new version of Corel's Linux. Corel also has part ownership in Xandros.
Its definately not the OS you stick on your webserver... its not meant to be. Its a desktop distro that is supposedly very good at what it does. I sure wouldn't pay that kind of money for it, but for those who are interested in Linux but don't know where to begin, it might be a good thing.
I know a few people who really honestly loved Corel's distro and can't seem to get their minds around any of the others, so for them its probably a no-brainer.
It says the Linux solution saves 40% over the prior Unix solution, but it doesn't say what the prior solution is.
Are the savings here really coming from using Linux, or just from using cheap commodity hardware clustered together?
You can assume that, but you'd be wrong.
I know now everyone who opposed the President on anything in the past 13 months is technically an "enemy combatant", but shouldn't they have to do some actual fighting first?
I'm referring to the countless American citizens spirited away in the few days after the incident, primarily on the basis of their national origin.
Padilla was fortunate enough to have his name out in the press, what about the hundreds that the Justice department refused to identify on national security concerns?
What about the fact that the President of the United States can now take an American citizen he suspects of a crime and hold him for as long as he wants without trial and without access to a lawyer?
The real neat part of that new presidential power is that it'll never have to stand up to any sort of constitutional scrutiny since the person will likely never see the light of day again.
Yeah, the SH2 - SH4 were all 32 bit
the SH2 was in the Sega Saturn (actually two of them)
the SH3 was in a lot of early Windows CE based HPCs
I'm still eager to know what the SH5 has found its way into.
I can tell you why they didn't use OO, support.
Its cheaper to pay Corel $8 or so for an OEM version and let them deal with support questions than to give away OO and have to deal with supporting it yourselves.
Telling your entry-level users to RTFM or "You've got the source, fix it yourself" isn't going to cut it.
My next door neighbor used AOL for two years, he contracted a virus one time that I only got rid of with a total system reinstall, he complained about slow load times, and the fact that he couldn't connect after 6:00 in the evenings.
He finally switched to cable modem access, and even though it was the same per month fee he only lasted a month before ditching it and going back to AOL.
The reason? He says he couldn't send emails anymore without typing the whole email address in (yeah, I explained to him about address books after the fact). Old people don't want cheap, or fast, or even good, they want mind-numbingly easy and no changes. He was still using AOL 5.0, because he'd tried 7.0 and it was too hard to use.
That niche may die out in 40-50 years when we are the old foagies and our grandkids are mocking us (Gramps still uses a BASH shell? Doesn't he know all computers are run by pure thought now?), but it gives AOL plenty of time to find other sources of revenue.
Don't forget some of us went on to Gamecube, and its got a broadband launching later this year as well.
The Dreamcast had a broadband addon and it is already supported in NetBSD.
One could if they wished already browse on the Dreamcast, because they ship with a web browser CD. Got me through a couple weeks in college when my PC's modem broke and I had no money left to buy a replacement.
The real use of this is more "because they can" than anything. Its fun to hack on consoles, since they theoretically were made specifically to not be hacked on. I've still got my Dreamcast, I still play games on it, and I still hack on it. I've got an Atari 2600 too, and I still play games on it, and I still hack on it (6507 assembler is a @#%@ing nightmare).
As far as I can tell this is just Dave Mirra 3 with new levels and boobies.
Why does letting you ride your bike past dogs having sex make this a revolutionary title? Why should people who didn't buy the last BMX title (or bought it and wish they hadn't) bother with this?
Give the public a little credit Acclaim, at least GTA3 was fun to play. I'd work on fixing the glaring play control issues in your title before I go:
"Hey, our game isn't selling, I know, lets stick some titties in it, that'll make it edgy"
But if the action is perfectly legal (as running Linux on an xbox most certainly is) then how is it neccesary to take a hard line?
I mean, why shouldn't Microsoft go after companies who sell Xboxes without requiring the customer to purchase any games? If they only buy one or two games they'll still lose money overall, shouldn't they HAVE to take a hard line with that as well?
The Xbox already was a major league money loser before Linux came along. Blaming the mod community is just silly.
Back in 1991 we had a semi-riot here (Saginaw, MI) by some of the plants in town. Not only were alot of non-GM cars in the lots destroyed, the ruckus carried out into the streets and a lot of foreign made cars in the south side of town were overturned and set afire.
Try not mixing your statistics as well. 1/3 of the potential employable workforce was unemployed during the peak of the Great Depression, which is by no means the same as 33% unemployment rate. The "unemployment" statistic we are given nowadays is a very optimistic figure which assumes the only people out of work are those who actually file unemployment claims.
The actual percentage of the available workforce in my area that are out of work is a lot closer to 20%. Still not as bad as the bottom of the Depression, but as bad as much of it.
I saw 6 people with "will work for food" signs today. I heard that applications were taken for a part time minimum wage job on the other side of town and over 500 people showed up. So don't try to tell me things are peachy.
Are there homeless people coming to my home looking for food and work everyday? Damned near every day. I see dozens of beggars and homeless wandering the streets all day long.
Tell me, how does one go about getting unemployment if they haven't been able to land a steady job since college? Likewise, what the hell good does minimum wage do to the unemployed?
$15 an hour to mow lawns? Where the hell do you live? I mean Christ, for one thing, winter is coming, for another, if you get $5 an hour to mow a lawn around here you're damned lucky, and thats IF you can find one.
I'm perfectly willing to work. I've applied for damned near every job I can find. They all say the same thing "Overqualified" or "no experience". I'm thinking of going into business for myself. Hell, an Optical Physics business shouldn't require more than a couple million to start, right?
I guess I can always scrape the gold off that the streets are paved with, right?
6-7% national unemployment is still pretty goddamn bad. What was the peak in the depression? Do you even know?
Worse still is some regional unemployments. The filthy salt-marsh where I live is currently over the 10% mark in unemployment. That is damned near as bad as it got in the Great Depression that we're supposed to not dare compare outselves to.
I'm not in what this article calls GenX, being born 3 years too late. But I will say this:
Some of us don't want inflated.com salaries, or fully funded 401Ks. Some of us want what every generation born in the last 80 years has come to expect, a decent job.
Try spending 5 years getting a double major B.S. degree in two of "hottest" fields around, then not get a $7 an hour temp job at a Sugar factory because you're "overqualified", and not even get a call back from the positions that were supposed to be entry level because you don't have the 5 years experience they now expect.
Why is it freedom only goes on to the point where it offends you, and then it becomes money-grubbing?
Seriously, if you're so all-fired worried about freedom, why not defend the freedom of RedHat to do something which is implicitly allowed in the GPL in the first place, namely adding and removing parts of a program to suit tastes?
I think the reason OSNews didn't bring this up is because either
1) They didn't know or 2) They knew but didn't care
seems like a safe bet, because I didn't know, and now that I do I don't care.
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If you're going to steal money from us to do research allegedly on our behalf it takes a helluva nerve to suggest that there need to be terms on the ways we can use it.
Every piece of software I've ever written goes into the public domain. If Bill Gates ever wants to borrow a snippet of code thats his business, if RMS wants to borrow a snippet of code thats his business. They don't tell me how I can use my code and I don't tell them how they can use their code. What's wrong with that?
I think the great crime here is that Corel didn't have a Linux port of Word Perfect 2002 all set for the Xandros launch.
There certainly are commercial unices that run on x86 hardware. Solaris x86, SCO, and I'm sure I'm missing a few others. One could also stick one of the BSDs on this hardware. I'm just curious if you could get the same results with one of those solutions, and if so is this really a great victory for Linux or is it just a great victory for clustering?
Its not that unproven.
Seriously, Xandros is just the new version of Corel's Linux. Corel also has part ownership in Xandros.
Its definately not the OS you stick on your webserver... its not meant to be. Its a desktop distro that is supposedly very good at what it does. I sure wouldn't pay that kind of money for it, but for those who are interested in Linux but don't know where to begin, it might be a good thing.
I know a few people who really honestly loved Corel's distro and can't seem to get their minds around any of the others, so for them its probably a no-brainer.
It says the Linux solution saves 40% over the prior Unix solution, but it doesn't say what the prior solution is. Are the savings here really coming from using Linux, or just from using cheap commodity hardware clustered together?
Apple currently has $4.3 billion in cash available, so I doubt they're just being tight here.
It strikes me more likely they are being spiteful
You can assume that, but you'd be wrong. I know now everyone who opposed the President on anything in the past 13 months is technically an "enemy combatant", but shouldn't they have to do some actual fighting first? I'm referring to the countless American citizens spirited away in the few days after the incident, primarily on the basis of their national origin. Padilla was fortunate enough to have his name out in the press, what about the hundreds that the Justice department refused to identify on national security concerns?
What about the fact that the President of the United States can now take an American citizen he suspects of a crime and hold him for as long as he wants without trial and without access to a lawyer?
The real neat part of that new presidential power is that it'll never have to stand up to any sort of constitutional scrutiny since the person will likely never see the light of day again.
Yeah, the SH2 - SH4 were all 32 bit the SH2 was in the Sega Saturn (actually two of them) the SH3 was in a lot of early Windows CE based HPCs I'm still eager to know what the SH5 has found its way into.
I can tell you why they didn't use OO, support. Its cheaper to pay Corel $8 or so for an OEM version and let them deal with support questions than to give away OO and have to deal with supporting it yourselves. Telling your entry-level users to RTFM or "You've got the source, fix it yourself" isn't going to cut it.
Nope, the Dreamcast ran an SH-4.
I dunno.
My next door neighbor used AOL for two years, he contracted a virus one time that I only got rid of with a total system reinstall, he complained about slow load times, and the fact that he couldn't connect after 6:00 in the evenings.
He finally switched to cable modem access, and even though it was the same per month fee he only lasted a month before ditching it and going back to AOL.
The reason? He says he couldn't send emails anymore without typing the whole email address in (yeah, I explained to him about address books after the fact). Old people don't want cheap, or fast, or even good, they want mind-numbingly easy and no changes. He was still using AOL 5.0, because he'd tried 7.0 and it was too hard to use.
That niche may die out in 40-50 years when we are the old foagies and our grandkids are mocking us (Gramps still uses a BASH shell? Doesn't he know all computers are run by pure thought now?), but it gives AOL plenty of time to find other sources of revenue.
Its only a matter of time until Namco announces Cocksucker Pacman
Don't forget some of us went on to Gamecube, and its got a broadband launching later this year as well.
The Dreamcast had a broadband addon and it is already supported in NetBSD.
One could if they wished already browse on the Dreamcast, because they ship with a web browser CD. Got me through a couple weeks in college when my PC's modem broke and I had no money left to buy a replacement.
The real use of this is more "because they can" than anything. Its fun to hack on consoles, since they theoretically were made specifically to not be hacked on. I've still got my Dreamcast, I still play games on it, and I still hack on it. I've got an Atari 2600 too, and I still play games on it, and I still hack on it (6507 assembler is a @#%@ing nightmare).
As far as I can tell this is just Dave Mirra 3 with new levels and boobies. Why does letting you ride your bike past dogs having sex make this a revolutionary title? Why should people who didn't buy the last BMX title (or bought it and wish they hadn't) bother with this? Give the public a little credit Acclaim, at least GTA3 was fun to play. I'd work on fixing the glaring play control issues in your title before I go: "Hey, our game isn't selling, I know, lets stick some titties in it, that'll make it edgy"
But if the action is perfectly legal (as running Linux on an xbox most certainly is) then how is it neccesary to take a hard line?
I mean, why shouldn't Microsoft go after companies who sell Xboxes without requiring the customer to purchase any games? If they only buy one or two games they'll still lose money overall, shouldn't they HAVE to take a hard line with that as well?
The Xbox already was a major league money loser before Linux came along. Blaming the mod community is just silly.
Back in 1991 we had a semi-riot here (Saginaw, MI) by some of the plants in town. Not only were alot of non-GM cars in the lots destroyed, the ruckus carried out into the streets and a lot of foreign made cars in the south side of town were overturned and set afire.
If a chevy worker drives a Ford to work, its gonna be tipped over and burning before he leaves for the day.
One could, however, take the processors out of a few of those things that Hollywood decides can do without DRM and build a computer out of them.
Try not mixing your statistics as well. 1/3 of the potential employable workforce was unemployed during the peak of the Great Depression, which is by no means the same as 33% unemployment rate. The "unemployment" statistic we are given nowadays is a very optimistic figure which assumes the only people out of work are those who actually file unemployment claims.
The actual percentage of the available workforce in my area that are out of work is a lot closer to 20%. Still not as bad as the bottom of the Depression, but as bad as much of it.
I saw 6 people with "will work for food" signs today. I heard that applications were taken for a part time minimum wage job on the other side of town and over 500 people showed up. So don't try to tell me things are peachy.
Are there homeless people coming to my home looking for food and work everyday? Damned near every day. I see dozens of beggars and homeless wandering the streets all day long.
Tell me, how does one go about getting unemployment if they haven't been able to land a steady job since college? Likewise, what the hell good does minimum wage do to the unemployed?
$15 an hour to mow lawns? Where the hell do you live? I mean Christ, for one thing, winter is coming, for another, if you get $5 an hour to mow a lawn around here you're damned lucky, and thats IF you can find one.
I'm perfectly willing to work. I've applied for damned near every job I can find. They all say the same thing "Overqualified" or "no experience". I'm thinking of going into business for myself. Hell, an Optical Physics business shouldn't require more than a couple million to start, right?
I guess I can always scrape the gold off that the streets are paved with, right?
Oh is that what the problem is?
Funny, I stuck it out, graduated, and now I can't even land a $7 an hour temp job 'legitimately'.
6-7% national unemployment is still pretty goddamn bad. What was the peak in the depression? Do you even know?
.com salaries, or fully funded 401Ks. Some of us want what every generation born in the last 80 years has come to expect, a decent job.
Worse still is some regional unemployments. The filthy salt-marsh where I live is currently over the 10% mark in unemployment. That is damned near as bad as it got in the Great Depression that we're supposed to not dare compare outselves to.
I'm not in what this article calls GenX, being born 3 years too late. But I will say this:
Some of us don't want inflated
Try spending 5 years getting a double major B.S. degree in two of "hottest" fields around, then not get a $7 an hour temp job at a Sugar factory because you're "overqualified", and not even get a call back from the positions that were supposed to be entry level because you don't have the 5 years experience they now expect.
Then tell me how cushy "we" have it.
If this book is done entirely in MIXAL I'm buying it!
Why is it freedom only goes on to the point where it offends you, and then it becomes money-grubbing?
Seriously, if you're so all-fired worried about freedom, why not defend the freedom of RedHat to do something which is implicitly allowed in the GPL in the first place, namely adding and removing parts of a program to suit tastes?
I think the reason OSNews didn't bring this up is because either
1) They didn't know
or
2) They knew but didn't care
seems like a safe bet, because I didn't know, and now that I do I don't care.