how about Snow Leopard which focused heavily on optimizing it's previous incarnation? Although I don't suggest they will try to optimize for the foreseable future, it does show that they can release an OS that doesn't focus on cramming more features in.
What I found most annoying with my iPhone when I got it was the number of steps it took to get just a normal, modern (ie- not the old-school-rotary) sounding telephone ring.
They didn't even have anything like that available to buy, as ridiculous as the notion was to me. Nope, I had to go get an MP3 of a phone ringing, get it in iTunes and then do some tom-foolery with file name extensions or some such and then get it put on the phone.
am I the only one in the world that doesn't want "Ridin' dirty" or some Casio keyboard sounding marimba tone everytime I get a call?
Pros: like others mentioned, my phone is already streaming pandora or playing music and occasionally taking calls/texts- having all of these being done by one device at the same time is a bottleneck -if not of hardware, then certainly of user interface
Cons: my stand alone, dedicated, only has one job to do in it's whole stinking existence, GPS receiver takes *forever* to triangulate. Granted if I sit in one place it works relatively fast, but a large number of times I'm already moving when I need it to come to life. My iphone triangulates on cell towers to get me going "well enough" right away, and still even manages to triangulate GPS faster than my NUVI. This is a frustrating PITA.
Also, the NUVI interface, although highly recommended by my user experience colleagues, is pretty cumbersome. Address entering that requires the STATE and CITY EVERY TIME is frustrating. I would like the menu choices of inputting addresses to a include "near me" option or have it done radially like google maps does.
Sure, I don't want a web SERVER either (in the common parlance)- but maybe a server that just does some quick task for me: I find value in being able to easily share my photos with people with little to know real effort on my part. I currently have to FTP/batch to my webserver and "reindex" the site so thumbnails are generated. I would find value in having an EyeFi memory card dump pictures into a folder and they are immediately available to view- no work done at all on my part.
...that said, I am concerned about security, but I've used Opera since 2002, and they've at least earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to security.
10.0 has auto updates, but as other commenters have pointed out- 10.0 is in beta and seperate from the "Opera Unite" stuff of the article. You can learn more about auto update and try it out on the beta page
Right, I found Prince of Persia to be very beautiful, but nearly as repetitive as Mass Effect. I certainly raised my eyebrow at the "Elika's AI" as I don't remember it adding much value to the game.
A bespoke, custom made, tailored suit is only worn by one person- but I'd rather have that than some Men's Wearhouse off the rack number.
...if you're thinking about FF extensions at this point, you're not getting the metaphor, so I would add: "A bespoke, custom made, tailored suit is only worn by one person- but I'd rather have that than some Men's Wearhouse off the rack number,...or have to learn and build a suit myself"
Are you then equally at the mercy of the programmer you hire? And since this means many programmers vs one company to hold accountable (with PR etc), it seems less likely that these programmers I'm going to hire require me to have a knowledge level to figure out if I'm getting scammed by them etc.
I'll back up that Gunter annex dealt with mostly software/support, but it's compliment of programmers is not anything I'm familiar with./I was part of team that built AFPC's Virtual MPF as a commissioned officer...actually 33s's coding in the basement of AFPC.
While I agree with your point, he also has a significant concern that, even if he creates an app that is valuable and worth more, it won't get any visibility. He mentions he welcomes the competition etc.
I somewhat agree, there needs to be a more thought out structure to the store.
I think that's not really a true statement anymore. Particularly because Opera has never really been slow and unusable. Firefox isn't fast and lean anymore either. There's more and more "out of the box" stuff that goes beyond a lean browser, and the functions, since they are extensions and not optimized for the core of the browser and integrated as tightly aren't really as fast as they could be... either from a raw performance/metrics standpoint, or from a UI perspective
You missed my sarcastic "in other words..." from the OP. Anyway, that's my point. The OP I was responding to made a comments implying that browsers competing and how small browsers that no one uses aren't relevant or worthwhile- that they divert developer cycles.
(The part you replied was in sarcastic quotes) was that if we had good, realistic standards, it shouldn't matter what the browser looks like or does. I think competition is great in the browser market- I think a "small, niche browser" is perfectly acceptable.
Open standards are far more important to me than open source.
In other words- "I don't care about standards at all, just one company's interpretation of them. We can't control what these companies are going to do with their products, so we might as well just go along with one of them, standards be damned. Oh, lets do that under the guise of 'open source' to sound sanctimonious about it- that way we can all be chained to a single company's interpretation, allowing developers to be lazy (saves money for companies hiring developers! yay!), but we still reserve the right to complain about closed source companies that are essentially doing the same thing!"
While you have a good point about focusing on features instead of rendering, I mean- come on, one of the biggest claims in this summary is Acid 3 passing. Once the standards are down, why can't a company start working on the way it presents and interacts with the web? Why should one UI fit all? What's wrong with competition?...and the ads/paying for browser. Back in 2001, I was more than willing to pay 20 dollars (student discount) for a browser that was far more advanced than anything on the market. mouse gestures alone was worth the price of admission. 20 dollars? (Maybe it was 40 full price) That's the price of a meal for two for one night compared to a software product that gets how much use per day?
Right, those are important features for sure, (arguably two of the most important), but to classify Opera has being "behind the times" as far as feature sets is inaccurate at best.
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Search on your radius and end point destinations are not very useful- on your route is great feature to have (gas stations, rest stops etc)
how about Snow Leopard which focused heavily on optimizing it's previous incarnation? Although I don't suggest they will try to optimize for the foreseable future, it does show that they can release an OS that doesn't focus on cramming more features in.
What I found most annoying with my iPhone when I got it was the number of steps it took to get just a normal, modern (ie- not the old-school-rotary) sounding telephone ring.
They didn't even have anything like that available to buy, as ridiculous as the notion was to me. Nope, I had to go get an MP3 of a phone ringing, get it in iTunes and then do some tom-foolery with file name extensions or some such and then get it put on the phone.
am I the only one in the world that doesn't want "Ridin' dirty" or some Casio keyboard sounding marimba tone everytime I get a call?
this is the still the primary reason I use Opera as my daily driver.
Works fine for me (at least as well as FF). FF is a bit smoother at adjusting the boxes than Opera, but I wouldn't have noticed otherwise.
Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
Pros: like others mentioned, my phone is already streaming pandora or playing music and occasionally taking calls/texts- having all of these being done by one device at the same time is a bottleneck -if not of hardware, then certainly of user interface
Cons: my stand alone, dedicated, only has one job to do in it's whole stinking existence, GPS receiver takes *forever* to triangulate. Granted if I sit in one place it works relatively fast, but a large number of times I'm already moving when I need it to come to life. My iphone triangulates on cell towers to get me going "well enough" right away, and still even manages to triangulate GPS faster than my NUVI. This is a frustrating PITA.
Also, the NUVI interface, although highly recommended by my user experience colleagues, is pretty cumbersome. Address entering that requires the STATE and CITY EVERY TIME is frustrating. I would like the menu choices of inputting addresses to a include "near me" option or have it done radially like google maps does.
I believe it's Mt. Sneffels in Iceland. At least that's what Arne Saknussem led me to believe
Sure, I don't want a web SERVER either (in the common parlance)- but maybe a server that just does some quick task for me: I find value in being able to easily share my photos with people with little to know real effort on my part. I currently have to FTP/batch to my webserver and "reindex" the site so thumbnails are generated. I would find value in having an EyeFi memory card dump pictures into a folder and they are immediately available to view- no work done at all on my part.
Actually, he's been walking since 7.5 months -but don't envy it, it's a PITA
10.0 has auto updates, but as other commenters have pointed out- 10.0 is in beta and seperate from the "Opera Unite" stuff of the article. You can learn more about auto update and try it out on the beta page
Right, I found Prince of Persia to be very beautiful, but nearly as repetitive as Mass Effect. I certainly raised my eyebrow at the "Elika's AI" as I don't remember it adding much value to the game.
Walking is something my 11 month old boy is very good at, but I still enjoy it from time to time as well.
What about Go and Chess?
A bespoke, custom made, tailored suit is only worn by one person- but I'd rather have that than some Men's Wearhouse off the rack number.
"A bespoke, custom made, tailored suit is only worn by one person- but I'd rather have that than some Men's Wearhouse off the rack number,
Are you then equally at the mercy of the programmer you hire? And since this means many programmers vs one company to hold accountable (with PR etc), it seems less likely that these programmers I'm going to hire require me to have a knowledge level to figure out if I'm getting scammed by them etc.
"You could pay someone else to fix the software..."
And we're right back to your first paragraph again.
I'll back up that Gunter annex dealt with mostly software/support, but it's compliment of programmers is not anything I'm familiar with. /I was part of team that built AFPC's Virtual MPF as a commissioned officer...actually 33s's coding in the basement of AFPC.
This is my scheme as well. It always seems to me to be blindingly obvious to do something like this, but it's never really mentioned anywhere.
While I agree with your point, he also has a significant concern that, even if he creates an app that is valuable and worth more, it won't get any visibility. He mentions he welcomes the competition etc.
I somewhat agree, there needs to be a more thought out structure to the store.
I think that's not really a true statement anymore. Particularly because Opera has never really been slow and unusable. Firefox isn't fast and lean anymore either. There's more and more "out of the box" stuff that goes beyond a lean browser, and the functions, since they are extensions and not optimized for the core of the browser and integrated as tightly aren't really as fast as they could be... either from a raw performance/metrics standpoint, or from a UI perspective
You missed my sarcastic "in other words..." from the OP. Anyway, that's my point. The OP I was responding to made a comments implying that browsers competing and how small browsers that no one uses aren't relevant or worthwhile- that they divert developer cycles.
(The part you replied was in sarcastic quotes) was that if we had good, realistic standards, it shouldn't matter what the browser looks like or does. I think competition is great in the browser market- I think a "small, niche browser" is perfectly acceptable.
Open standards are far more important to me than open source.
the quote is from another slashdotter (apologies), but don't front like that's not what you were implying.
Oh- and the "next to no one uses..."
So what? Again, if the standards are there browser makers could all agree on them, what difference does it make if next to no one uses it?
In other words- "I don't care about standards at all, just one company's interpretation of them. We can't control what these companies are going to do with their products, so we might as well just go along with one of them, standards be damned. Oh, lets do that under the guise of 'open source' to sound sanctimonious about it- that way we can all be chained to a single company's interpretation, allowing developers to be lazy (saves money for companies hiring developers! yay!), but we still reserve the right to complain about closed source companies that are essentially doing the same thing!"
While you have a good point about focusing on features instead of rendering, I mean- come on, one of the biggest claims in this summary is Acid 3 passing. Once the standards are down, why can't a company start working on the way it presents and interacts with the web? Why should one UI fit all? What's wrong with competition? ...and the ads/paying for browser. Back in 2001, I was more than willing to pay 20 dollars (student discount) for a browser that was far more advanced than anything on the market. mouse gestures alone was worth the price of admission. 20 dollars? (Maybe it was 40 full price) That's the price of a meal for two for one night compared to a software product that gets how much use per day?
What's wrong with paying to promote innovation?
Right, those are important features for sure, (arguably two of the most important), but to classify Opera has being "behind the times" as far as feature sets is inaccurate at best.