I was under the impression that both Intel and AMD were/are going to add some new CPU instructions and another processor run level that would support virtualisation at the hardware level (which needs to be the case to do it properly).
If MS hadn't become the power player in PC software then it would probably be DR who did. So instead of Bill Gates being rich it would be Gary Kildall (if he didn't die in 1994 too in this alternate universe). Someone would have pocketed the money for software since people needed it. Even if PCs had failed taking DR with it then it would be Apple could well be top dog or if Macs failed then perhaps the Amiga would be on everyones desktop now , and so on and so forth.... At any rate, *someone* would be rich from people buying software.
"My laptop does not "peg out", nor have I ever lost data due to hardware problems"
Famous last words. What makes you so special that you're immune from hardware/software failures? It might not have happened yet but it'll happen to you one day and when it does remember , I told you so.
Bet that seems a really good idea - until your laptop pegs out and you find all your work has disappeared into the ether. Far better to make sure the cache gets flushed frequently and put up with a very tiny slowdown , else you're just asking for trouble.
I used a colour computer monitor back in 1983. There were computers before PCs you know sonny and uou don't need multisync to display a computer generated image. How do you think the 1970s video games worked? Etch-a-sketch? I know this is Slashdot but it would be nice if just occasionally people engaged brain before posting.
"probably built it half as robust and still been outstanding pieces of machinery"
Yeah , why did those engineers bother over engineering. They could have made them out of some old beer cans and kit from radio shack. Hey they might only have lasted 10 seconds but think of all the money saved!
Whats so disturbing about being able to put people off balance (which is all it really is)? You can do that now with various forms of gas or if you really want to control a crowd , you can use bullets. If I had the choice between some inner ear stimulation and a bullet in my chest or breathing in some form of nerve gas I know which I'd choose!
"the zero-pollution returns from the big powersats"
Powersats? Don't tell me , something along the lines of beaming down megawatts of microwave power thats been a staple of bad science fiction for years? Couple of minor points - A) Rather dangerous to anyone or anything who accidentaly gets under the beam or if the beam shifts due to faults on the satellite and B) you can generate the power on the ground anyway , so why bother?
"And what is your basis for this? Have you put any thought into it?"
Mir weighed about 50 tons and pieces still made it down to the ground (well ocean). The space shuttle also burnt up and they recovered quite a bit of that. Have you put any thought into your reply or were you just looking for a reaction?
"Have you considered that this structure will most probably be large and spindly"
And whats your basis for this other than guesswork? Spindly structures arn't exactly very resistant to torque forces acting on them , not to mention strikes by space debris.
"To the people who can't comprehend plans for 40 years ahead: "
Plan all you like ahead - it doesn't change Pe = mgh. And to put 20,000 tons in earth orbit is a fuck load of potential energy (not to mention kinetic from orbital velocity). Thats all got to come from launch systems. And lets not forget the not very pleasent impact on the enviroment that (lets be conservativ) 100 heavy launch vehicles will have.
Yes , but if it blew up on the launch pad the whole complex would be unusable for years. While I'm generally in favour of nuclear power , one of the places I believe it shouldn't be used is in anything airborne or highly explosive. And rockets tick both those boxes.
Putting 20,000 tons into orbit would cost trillions, an amount even the japanese don't have to spare, especially the way their economy is going. And never mind the financial costs , what happens at the end of its life and it has to be decommissioned? How to you get something the weight of a small battleship to come back down to earth safely? 20,000 tons is not going to burn up on re-entry and can you imagine the sort of damage that sort of weight hitting the ground or ocean at hypersonic speed would cause?
How can a virus act in an intentional way? Intention requires thought. Viruses bacteria etc don't think and they weren't "built" , so there is no intention either in action or design. Conversely a computer was built with intention even though it has none itself , therefore by Searles definition , a computer is alive , microorganisms are not.
Ok , this particular one won't , it requires a very particular lab enviroment. But they won't stop at this and the potential for using in the real world is very high. Fine. But if it goes out of control? What then? Its not a computer virus where at the last resort you reinstall the OS. You can't reinstall the earths enviroment. Is creating artificial life like this *really* a good idea, or is it just a way of scientists boosting their egos and various corps making a fast buck?
So much for the internet surviving a nuclear war!
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Now it can't even survive a software upgrade on some of the routers!
No , sorry , a rootkit is something that gets you root privs. Always has been. If I get root access then I rm the ps command does "rm" suddenly become a rootkit? No, of course not.
"Love the quote from a researcher saying that the alleged sale of rookits means that "
I think what he meant (tho he could have phrased it much better) is that previously virus writers were just sad spotty adolescents with no social skills in their bedroom writing viruses to prove something to themselves or to impress they're equally sad and spotty online "friends". These days a lot of it is paid for by organised crime who have specific targets and specific agendas.
That definition is wrong. A rootkit is a kit that helps you get root access on a system either by buffer overflow of a running process/server or some other method. To prevent a process showing up in ps all you have to do is put your own version of the ps command in place, hardly rocket science.
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Virtualisation is not the same as virtual memory or emulation
of an earlier CPU.
Yes , the amount of books out for is absolutely astounding. I can .... umm ... err .... none.
think of at least
I was under the impression that both Intel and AMD were/are going to
add some new CPU instructions and another processor run level that
would support virtualisation at the hardware level (which needs to be
the case to do it properly).
If MS hadn't become the power player in PC software then it would
probably be DR who did. So instead of Bill Gates being rich it would
be Gary Kildall (if he didn't die in 1994 too in this alternate universe).
Someone would have pocketed the money for software since people needed
it. Even if PCs had failed taking DR with it then it would be Apple
could well be top dog or if Macs failed then perhaps the Amiga would be
on everyones desktop now , and so on and so forth.... At any rate,
*someone* would be rich from people buying software.
"My laptop does not "peg out", nor have I ever lost data due to hardware problems"
Famous last words. What makes you so special that you're immune from
hardware/software failures? It might not have happened yet but it'll
happen to you one day and when it does remember , I told you so.
Bet that seems a really good idea - until your laptop pegs out and
you find all your work has disappeared into the ether. Far better to
make sure the cache gets flushed frequently and put up with a very
tiny slowdown , else you're just asking for trouble.
I used a colour computer monitor back in 1983. There were computers
before PCs you know sonny and uou don't need multisync to display a
computer generated image. How do you think the 1970s video games
worked? Etch-a-sketch? I know this is Slashdot but it would be nice if
just occasionally people engaged brain before posting.
Aside from CRTs having better picture quality than LCDs they
were also invented in 1897, not 1990 (which I suspect is when
you were born sonny).
"probably built it half as robust and still been outstanding pieces of machinery"
Yeah , why did those engineers bother over engineering. They could
have made them out of some old beer cans and kit from radio shack.
Hey they might only have lasted 10 seconds but think of all the
money saved!
I dunno , some robots , just no consideration for those left on earth.
Don't happen to have the addresses do you? I fancy a trip down
memory lane today...
"I think we don't talk often enough about this software here"
Thats cos webservers are , however you want to look at it, pretty
boring programs from a technical point of view.
Whats so disturbing about being able to put people off balance (which
is all it really is)? You can do that now with various forms of gas
or if you really want to control a crowd , you can use bullets. If
I had the choice between some inner ear stimulation and a bullet in
my chest or breathing in some form of nerve gas I know which I'd
choose!
Just curious. Also would be nice to see the current amount of WAIS :o)
and Archie servers left!
You mean the same silica that has a melting temp of 1400C and
doesn't boil until over 3000C ?
"the zero-pollution returns from the big powersats"
Powersats? Don't tell me , something along the lines of beaming down
megawatts of microwave power thats been a staple of bad science fiction
for years? Couple of minor points - A) Rather dangerous to anyone
or anything who accidentaly gets under the beam or if the beam shifts
due to faults on the satellite and B) you can generate the power on
the ground anyway , so why bother?
"And what is your basis for this? Have you put any thought into it?"
Mir weighed about 50 tons and pieces still made it down to the ground (well
ocean). The space shuttle also burnt up and they recovered quite a bit of
that. Have you put any thought into your reply or were you just looking for
a reaction?
"Have you considered that this structure will most probably be large and spindly"
And whats your basis for this other than guesswork? Spindly structures arn't
exactly very resistant to torque forces acting on them , not to mention
strikes by space debris.
"To the people who can't comprehend plans for 40 years ahead: "
Plan all you like ahead - it doesn't change Pe = mgh. And to put 20,000 tons
in earth orbit is a fuck load of potential energy (not to mention kinetic
from orbital velocity). Thats all got to come from launch systems. And lets
not forget the not very pleasent impact on the enviroment that (lets be
conservativ) 100 heavy launch vehicles will have.
Yes , but if it blew up on the launch pad the whole complex would be
unusable for years. While I'm generally in favour of nuclear power , one
of the places I believe it shouldn't be used is in anything airborne
or highly explosive. And rockets tick both those boxes.
Putting 20,000 tons into orbit would cost trillions, an amount even the
japanese don't have to spare, especially the way their economy is going.
And never mind the financial costs , what happens at the end of its
life and it has to be decommissioned? How to you get something the weight
of a small battleship to come back down to earth safely? 20,000 tons is
not going to burn up on re-entry and can you imagine the sort of damage
that sort of weight hitting the ground or ocean at hypersonic speed would
cause?
How can a virus act in an intentional way? Intention requires thought. Viruses
bacteria etc don't think and they weren't "built" , so there is no intention
either in action or design. Conversely a computer was built with intention
even though it has none itself , therefore by Searles definition , a computer
is alive , microorganisms are not.
Ok , this particular one won't , it requires a very particular lab enviroment.
But they won't stop at this and the potential for using in the real world
is very high. Fine. But if it goes out of control? What then? Its not a
computer virus where at the last resort you reinstall the OS. You can't
reinstall the earths enviroment. Is creating artificial life like this
*really* a good idea, or is it just a way of scientists boosting their egos
and various corps making a fast buck?
Now it can't even survive a software upgrade on some of the routers!
No , sorry , a rootkit is something that gets you root privs.
Always has been. If I get root access then I rm the ps command
does "rm" suddenly become a rootkit? No, of course not.
"Love the quote from a researcher saying that the alleged sale of rookits means that "
I think what he meant (tho he could have phrased it much better) is that previously virus writers were just sad spotty adolescents with no social skills in their bedroom writing viruses to prove something to themselves or to impress they're equally sad and
spotty online "friends". These days a lot of it is paid for by organised crime who have specific targets and specific agendas.
That definition is wrong. A rootkit is a kit that helps you get
root access on a system either by buffer overflow of a running
process/server or some other method. To prevent a process
showing up in ps all you have to do is put your own version of
the ps command in place, hardly rocket science.