So far none of them have been remotely amusing and neither is this one. Surely someone can come up with something better than this, you have a whole year to prepare after all!
I've been pulled up a number of times for web surfing when I should be working (ie waiting for some damn database reconciliation to finish) so I just put mozilla to one side and installed lynx on the sparc here. Boss hasn't even noticed since for him its in an xterm and xterm = complex-techie-stuff.:)
They've added very little clutter for a lot of extra usablity. If you click "more" it takes you to their services and their "special services" section has BSD and Linux specific search limiters which I think is quite nice and the logo's are cool too:0)
Its fine for small scripts , rubbish for large programs as object and inheritance management becomes a minefield. I'm sure this language will provide hours of mental masturbation in various academic ivory towers but for those of us who have to code in the real world its not going to rock it.
Errr , have you ever use EITHER language?? SQL is a declarative set driven language and works in a COMPLETELY different way to COBOL which is procedural. I think you need to go back and re-take compsci 101!
I don't know Self but I do know Javascript and I find the prototyping OO method somewhat kludgy. Ok , maybe thats a facet of javascript and not the paradigm but give me classes anyday. Sure , maybe they're a bit more long winded than prototyping but there a DAMN site easier to understand and follow when you're debugging.
Indeed. Australia should become a republic and leave the commonwealth. Then we can chuck out all the tens of thousands of aussies here in London on high paying contracts who then bugger off home before the tax man comes calling, and give the jobs back to the locals.
Nice idea in theory , but you're forgetting the sheep mentality that afflicts 99% of PC users. If MS/Intel/Phoenix say its a good idea then baa baa it must be a good one. And even if they don't think about even that much they'll just go with the flow and buy whatever everyone else has.
These days it doesn't even get used as an abstraction layer, most (all?) 32 bit OSs use their own drivers. The BIOS is simply there for bootstrapping the loader program.
Bad analogy. The BIOS is SUPPOSED to be simple. Its a setup and booting system , thats it, PERIOD! We don't want it to get smart because once it gets complex it gets buggy and theres enough bugs in OSs WITHOUT having to worry about the fscking BIOS too!
"Their PhoenixNET BIOS (circa 2001) would change your home page and search engine, pop up links on your desktop and in your web-browser and would automatically download and install software on your machine!"
Really? Those phoenix coders must be very smart to write a BIOS that can update every operating system desktop that can run on a PC. Oh , or were you just refering to windoze?
"It's quite possible that all life on Earth is actually "contamination", that our life originated Europa (or Mars)."
Highly unlikely. Earth is a much bigger planet with more natural resources and with a far greater energy budget than either of those bodies, hence the probability is that life originated here.
Why this is going in the BIOS beats me since most modern OSs (certainly linux) and even windows use the bios as something to boorstrap their boot loader whether it be LILO or NT loader. After that the bios is bumped out of memory and ignored. Windows may well use portions of this BIOS if it suits MS but linux and other OSs can just happily ignore it and nothing will change. Or have I missed something?
I find it worrying that any kind of person in government (even local government) could be so pig ignorant of basic science that they'd fall for this hoax. Didn't they listen AT ALL at school? But this seems to be a general problem in the population as a whole , even amongst suppposed intellectuals (read: arts & MBA graduates) and yet amazingly they're not even usually embarrsed about it. The only reason they are in this story is because it was made public. If their ignorance was revealed in private they probably wouldn't give a damn , yet if they'd found to be wanting in knowledge of business or the humanities they'd probably go red faced.
Sorry , Objective-C is a dogs breakfast. C++ might not be perfect but at least it attempts to be a logical continuation of C's syntax and mode of operation. Obj-C on the other hand looks like the designers thought to hell with C , we'll design our own new-look language and shoehorn it kicking and screaming into C. Embedded SQL aside I've never seen such an ugly kludge of a language in my 15 years of working in the computer industry.
Yes , that optimised x86 assembler will come in *real* useful on a Sparc, PA_RISC, 68000, Power-PC etc etc architecture won't it when you need to drop an equation solver into your OO program.
Yeah , says a lot about the ability (or lack thereof) of MS coders that they need so much memory to do so little. I'm sure someone will pipe up bleating about how many services the thing has running in the background etc. Well so what? I used an HP-UX system 10 years ago that could support all the standard unix services and 100 users concurrently on 20 megs of RAM. No doubt there are even older readers who could find even better examples. Frankly any OS that needs half a GIG of memort just to run is farcicle.
And watch as the cables to your lighter melt under the hundreds of amps current the starter motor draws. Those things are ok for trickle charging but useless for jump starting.
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So far none of them have been remotely amusing and neither is this one. Surely someone can come up with something better than this, you have a
whole year to prepare after all!
I've been pulled up a number of times for web surfing when I should be working (ie waiting for some damn database reconciliation :)
to finish) so I just put mozilla to one side and installed lynx on the sparc here. Boss hasn't even noticed since for him
its in an xterm and xterm = complex-techie-stuff.
They've added very little clutter for a lot of extra usablity. If you click "more" it takes you to their services and their "special services" :0)
section has BSD and Linux specific search limiters which I think is quite nice and the logo's are cool too
Its fine for small scripts , rubbish for large programs as object and inheritance management becomes a minefield. I'm sure this language will
provide hours of mental masturbation in various academic ivory towers but for those of us who have to code in the real world its not going to rock it.
Errr , have you ever use EITHER language?? SQL is a declarative set driven language and works in a COMPLETELY
different way to COBOL which is procedural. I think you need to go back and re-take compsci 101!
Whitespace sensitive languages are retarded. Imagine trying to find where you've missed out a TAB in a 100,000 line program that compiles anyway! Gah!
Yeah , thats legal. The problem is with the code_t definition , not the [].
I don't know Self but I do know Javascript and I find the prototyping OO method somewhat kludgy. Ok , maybe thats a facet of javascript and not the paradigm but give me classes anyday.
Sure , maybe they're a bit more long winded than prototyping but there a DAMN site easier to understand and follow when you're debugging.
Indeed. Australia should become a republic and leave the commonwealth. Then we can chuck out all the tens of thousands of aussies here in London
on high paying contracts who then bugger off home before the tax man comes calling, and give the jobs back to the locals.
Nice idea in theory , but you're forgetting the sheep mentality that afflicts 99% of PC users. If MS/Intel/Phoenix say its a good idea then baa baa
it must be a good one. And even if they don't think about even that much they'll just go with the flow and buy whatever everyone else has.
These days it doesn't even get used as an abstraction layer, most (all?) 32 bit OSs use
their own drivers. The BIOS is simply there for
bootstrapping the loader program.
Bad analogy. The BIOS is SUPPOSED to be simple. Its a setup and booting system , thats it, PERIOD!
We don't want it to get smart because once it gets
complex it gets buggy and theres enough bugs in OSs WITHOUT having to worry about the fscking BIOS too!
"Their PhoenixNET BIOS (circa 2001) would change your home page and search engine, pop up links on your desktop and in your web-browser and would automatically download and install software on your machine!"
Really? Those phoenix coders must be very smart to write a BIOS that can update every operating system desktop that can run on a PC. Oh , or were
you just refering to windoze?
"It's quite possible that all life on Earth is actually "contamination", that our life originated Europa (or Mars)."
Highly unlikely. Earth is a much bigger planet with more natural resources and with a far greater energy budget than either of those bodies,
hence the probability is that life originated here.
Why this is going in the BIOS beats me since most modern OSs (certainly linux) and even windows use the bios as something to boorstrap their boot
loader whether it be LILO or NT loader. After that the bios is bumped out of memory and ignored. Windows may well use portions of this BIOS if it suits MS but linux and other
OSs can just happily ignore it and nothing will change. Or have I missed something?
I find it worrying that any kind of person in government (even local government) could be so
pig ignorant of basic science that they'd fall for
this hoax. Didn't they listen AT ALL at school? But this seems to be a general problem in the population as a whole , even amongst suppposed intellectuals (read: arts & MBA
graduates) and yet amazingly they're not even usually embarrsed about it. The only reason they are in this story is because it was made public. If their ignorance was revealed in private
they probably wouldn't give a damn , yet if they'd found to be wanting in knowledge of business or the humanities they'd probably go red faced.
Sorry , Objective-C is a dogs breakfast. C++ might not be perfect but at least it attempts to be a logical continuation of C's syntax and mode of operation.
Obj-C on the other hand looks like the designers thought to hell with C , we'll design our own new-look language and shoehorn it kicking and screaming
into C. Embedded SQL aside I've never seen such an ugly kludge of a language in my 15 years of working in the computer industry.
Yes , that optimised x86 assembler will come in *real* useful on a Sparc, PA_RISC, 68000, Power-PC etc etc architecture won't it when you need
to drop an equation solver into your OO program.
Congratulations on totally missing the point. -1 for you it seems.
Yeah , says a lot about the ability (or lack thereof) of MS coders that they need so much memory to do so little. I'm sure someone will pipe
up bleating about how many services the thing has running in the background etc. Well so what? I used an HP-UX system 10 years ago that could support
all the standard unix services and 100 users concurrently on 20 megs of RAM. No doubt there are even older readers who could find even better examples. Frankly any OS that needs half
a GIG of memort just to run is farcicle.
Around these parts we call it memory usage. Has someone thought up a new buzzphrase to make themselves sound more with-it or something?
What , you mean like all the exploits of windows and linux posted in full detail? Why is solaris exempt?
"unprivileged user may be able to gain unauthorized root privileges "
Great. So how do they go about doing it? A bit more info would be useful such as what type of activity to watch for etc....
And watch as the cables to your lighter melt under the hundreds of amps current the starter
motor draws. Those things are ok for trickle charging
but useless for jump starting.
Anybody know what this guys smoking?