The difference is that your cheque already has the bank transfer numbers written on it, and it is a mathematical error if you mess up, not a typo. The consequences are also well known. However in the computer world, consumers expect an explaination of the risks when they press a button that can cost them $25 each time they press it. Plus, you would only write a cheque to bounce once, while you may double click a button without thinking twice.
My point is also that you can visit a bank branch, and explain your situation to the manager, who being human may decide to cut you some slack. PayPal doesn't even have bank branches, nor adaquate telephone support for instances like this. There is no real-world recourse for International, much less US domestic users who encounter a problem.
One "man"'s flamebait, is another man's interesting. Funny how a redundant remark about this website was modded differently. I thought modderation was supposed to be pretty objective?
For my thoughts on the sucker trap that is PayPal, please see my remarks farther down this page... and on this link. http://forums.ebay.ca/dws?50@182.FDRqfJgpuY x^1@.ef 77095/4
As the defacto online payment system in North America, it needs rules, and fast. The current system allows for people to make minor, unintentional typos, and be charged $25US for the mistake. We are not talking math errors, I mean getting a bank routing number wrong. The transaction will fail, and the good forgiving folks at PayPal ding you $25US each time you hit the transfer button.
The documentation on their website interface is lame. There is not one place I could find that explicitly says that the dollar figure you enter will be in USD, even if you are logged in as an international memeber. They also conceal the fact that you will likely never see your $5 sign up bonus, until you complete an un-insurable, $250US, single transaction. How is that for a requirement that isn't even in fine print, it is on another page that the fine print links to?! eBay chat boards often have discussions about PayPal problems, including one fellow today that was told in an email from PayPal support, that he would have to register 2 credit cards with him, because they lost the registration for his original card! If anything goes wrong with your PayPal account, basically you are screwed, and have no way to get your money other than suing a mega-business.
Good Luck,
Unhappy PayPal user
I was going to make a similar remark about my highspeed loading pages on earth is bad enough, without having to wait about 14 minutes for my request to be responded to.
That is a very good idea. We have got so used to the old wires everwhere, we forget how our pioneers did things. On your own can be the best way sometimes. There are people in my home province who generate enough energy from their home windmills, that they sell extra back to the power company.
The only thing George W has said that I agree with is that we need to crack down on "Vampire devices" like the ones you speak of. There should be, and may soon be, laws that say how much a device can leach, while it is "off". This topic came up while California was having it's power crisis a year ago [what ever happened to that?].
Being environmentally friendly works at both ends; The user, and producer both have to play a part in saving energy. We could produce enough electricity to meet our "future" needs, or we could make our needs of the future, fit what we can do now. For example, who really needs a car that goes 70MPH, if it runs on electricity or otherwise? Why leave a monitor on while it isn't being used for the night? That power being used for the monitor may not be much, but it is still enough power to run a monitor somewhere else for the same amount of time.
Current power lines do that too. Acid rain is a greater risk to habitat and migration routes, in my opinion. We could also stop building glass buildings for the birds to slam into, as well. What we need to do is have more power generation "on-site". Then we don't need such high voltage, as less will be lost before it gets to the user.
I was thinking the same thing, until I realized that of course the object's gravity that would be moved, could only move at the speed of light, but once it had moved, then the gravity change detected at the other end would be received right away. This would get around light speed restricted communication, so I doubt it will ever be possible. I hope I am wrong however.
I don't "blindly" discredit AOL. They offer often inferior service to other ISPs, their CNN is a horrendous news source [aside from their live coverage], and many many AOL users lack the basic skills required to conduct yourself on the Internet without putting themselves at risk of all sorts of attackers. http://www.jokeaday.com/7aolexe.shtml I rest my case.
Personally I wouldn't be proud of staying with a company that supports AOL.
This sounds just like the solution Data used...
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When the android stalemated an opponent at a board game in Star Trek. The best his computer brain could do to beat the alien, was to play ultimately to a draw, and hence the opponent would never win. I guess Star Trek predicted the future of AI pretty well;-P
Thanks for the tip. I find it funny though that your comment was modded up, when it did not even bother to define what the acronym actually stands for. How would I know I encountered the "real GSM" that is being referred to in the article?
Thanks, I did that once with an audio tape to make a backup. I figured it works for LPs too, but I didn't want to lug the record player down to the computer.
I've encountered that drive too, but I don't remember if there ever was a problem. I'm using a WD 20GB now, and they are a piece of crap. This reminds me that I should backup my data, and run the utility on this drive to prove to WD that my drive needs replacing.
Calm down guys. I still like Quake, and played it just last year. I still prefer it, since it will work on Pentium computers, and 486s, when Unreal will hardly work on my Pentium Celeron.
Get out the lawyers big bad music companies. There is hell to pay, for this new copyright violating technology.
I can't wait to start ripping my parent's vinyl. I used to listen to it all the time as a kid, and now my Pentium II is finally advanced enough to play 100 year old technology.
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The difference is that your cheque already has the bank transfer numbers written on it, and it is a mathematical error if you mess up, not a typo. The consequences are also well known. However in the computer world, consumers expect an explaination of the risks when they press a button that can cost them $25 each time they press it. Plus, you would only write a cheque to bounce once, while you may double click a button without thinking twice.
My point is also that you can visit a bank branch, and explain your situation to the manager, who being human may decide to cut you some slack. PayPal doesn't even have bank branches, nor adaquate telephone support for instances like this. There is no real-world recourse for International, much less US domestic users who encounter a problem.
You just made my head explode. That'll teach me to install an Intel chip...
One "man"'s flamebait, is another man's interesting. Funny how a redundant remark about this website was modded differently. I thought modderation was supposed to be pretty objective?Y x^1@.ef 77095/4
For my thoughts on the sucker trap that is PayPal, please see my remarks farther down this page... and on this link.
http://forums.ebay.ca/dws?50@182.FDRqfJgpu
As the defacto online payment system in North America, it needs rules, and fast. The current system allows for people to make minor, unintentional typos, and be charged $25US for the mistake. We are not talking math errors, I mean getting a bank routing number wrong. The transaction will fail, and the good forgiving folks at PayPal ding you $25US each time you hit the transfer button.
The documentation on their website interface is lame. There is not one place I could find that explicitly says that the dollar figure you enter will be in USD, even if you are logged in as an international memeber. They also conceal the fact that you will likely never see your $5 sign up bonus, until you complete an un-insurable, $250US, single transaction. How is that for a requirement that isn't even in fine print, it is on another page that the fine print links to?!
eBay chat boards often have discussions about PayPal problems, including one fellow today that was told in an email from PayPal support, that he would have to register 2 credit cards with him, because they lost the registration for his original card! If anything goes wrong with your PayPal account, basically you are screwed, and have no way to get your money other than suing a mega-business.
Good Luck,
Unhappy PayPal user
I was going to make a similar remark about my highspeed loading pages on earth is bad enough, without having to wait about 14 minutes for my request to be responded to.
That is a very good idea. We have got so used to the old wires everwhere, we forget how our pioneers did things. On your own can be the best way sometimes. There are people in my home province who generate enough energy from their home windmills, that they sell extra back to the power company.
The only thing George W has said that I agree with is that we need to crack down on "Vampire devices" like the ones you speak of. There should be, and may soon be, laws that say how much a device can leach, while it is "off". This topic came up while California was having it's power crisis a year ago [what ever happened to that?].
Being environmentally friendly works at both ends; The user, and producer both have to play a part in saving energy. We could produce enough electricity to meet our "future" needs, or we could make our needs of the future, fit what we can do now. For example, who really needs a car that goes 70MPH, if it runs on electricity or otherwise? Why leave a monitor on while it isn't being used for the night? That power being used for the monitor may not be much, but it is still enough power to run a monitor somewhere else for the same amount of time.
Current power lines do that too. Acid rain is a greater risk to habitat and migration routes, in my opinion. We could also stop building glass buildings for the birds to slam into, as well.
What we need to do is have more power generation "on-site". Then we don't need such high voltage, as less will be lost before it gets to the user.
I was thinking the same thing, until I realized that of course the object's gravity that would be moved, could only move at the speed of light, but once it had moved, then the gravity change detected at the other end would be received right away.
This would get around light speed restricted communication, so I doubt it will ever be possible. I hope I am wrong however.
So how do you know the 64k, doesn't refer to a Tandy Color Computer II?
You read your spam?
And I thought I was wasting time by reading the comments on this stupid story of a suicidal computer.
To heck with people in Africa. I'd be happy to take it. Destroying computers should be a crime.
Ah, now I see. I thought it might have meant Gay Single Men, as another poster mentioned.
I don't "blindly" discredit AOL. They offer often inferior service to other ISPs, their CNN is a horrendous news source [aside from their live coverage], and many many AOL users lack the basic skills required to conduct yourself on the Internet without putting themselves at risk of all sorts of attackers.
http://www.jokeaday.com/7aolexe.shtml
I rest my case.
Personally I wouldn't be proud of staying with a company that supports AOL.
When the android stalemated an opponent at a board game in Star Trek. The best his computer brain could do to beat the alien, was to play ultimately to a draw, and hence the opponent would never win. I guess Star Trek predicted the future of AI pretty well ;-P
Thanks for the tip. I find it funny though that your comment was modded up, when it did not even bother to define what the acronym actually stands for. How would I know I encountered the "real GSM" that is being referred to in the article?
I have no clue either. The article doesn't even bother to define its new Acronymn. Everyone needs a TLA nowadays. Three Letter Acronymn.
Thanks, I did that once with an audio tape to make a backup. I figured it works for LPs too, but I didn't want to lug the record player down to the computer.
I've encountered that drive too, but I don't remember if there ever was a problem. I'm using a WD 20GB now, and they are a piece of crap. This reminds me that I should backup my data, and run the utility on this drive to prove to WD that my drive needs replacing.
Calm down guys. I still like Quake, and played it just last year. I still prefer it, since it will work on Pentium computers, and 486s, when Unreal will hardly work on my Pentium Celeron.
I haven't played Quake since I started playing Unreal. Is Quake still good?
>Do you refer to my sig? Because I do think it is the most clever I have ever seen.
Hey man, see my much funnier joke earlier, on the same point. ;-)
Get out the lawyers big bad music companies. There is hell to pay, for this new copyright violating technology.
I can't wait to start ripping my parent's vinyl. I used to listen to it all the time as a kid, and now my Pentium II is finally advanced enough to play 100 year old technology.