wouldn't a linux distro as gaming OS be the coolest thing ever? if a lot of game developers would focus on one linux distro, and gaming hw makers would focus their drivers developement on it.
Public goods need to benefit EVERYONE, not EVERYONE uses linux or open software.
and not everyone is driving his car on that road, but the gov payed for it. and not everyone is going to the public library, but the gov payed for it, and so on.
oss is just like a library: free information for everyone.
LUGs in our province ub italy take some money for the expenses they have (computers, rental of rooms for lessions,...) but not for the actual software they write. better than nothing anyway.
If such fragmentation were allowed, you will see exactly the problems you had previously with commercial vendors appearing in Linux products, only multiplied.
are you talking about the bsd license? do you see this happening with bsd?
ActiveState uses mozilla in Komodo, a really good programming ide for Perl, PHP, Python, Tcl, and XSLT, and maybe for other products. i have only seen Komodo, and it's a grat ide and makes good use of mozilla (it's embedded in their application).
i'm a programmer. and i spend a lot of hours coding. and i like it. and i like beeing payed for it. if i can do what i like, and be payed for it, that's cool. sco pays coders to do code. they probably like it, and the money sco spends for the coders has to return somehow. this is done thru the licence and by selling the code. if ibm really stole sco's code, the are guilty and have to pay sco for it. really simple.
"Windows users have a fair point that not many games are released for Linux because the market is less than 5% of the Windows market."
and as long the games are only developed for windows, there will never be a linux market for them. you see... someone has to begin, and bioware did. that's good. immagine all game developers would stop writing code for windows only, and write just cross-platform games. do you see the linux (insert any other os here) market grow exponentially?
" So you make it a disciplinary offence to install unapproved software on a PC used for financial work - which is what our finance department does. And occasionally sweem pachines for unauthorised executables."
yeah yeah.... like this would be possible everywhere. i'm a programmer, and i'm admin on my box. and i install whatever i want. and it has to be that way. and there are a lot of other people which work that way, because it has to be like that. in this situation, the proposed solution is just plain stupid. maybe it would work under some circumstances, but for sure it's no general solution.
on the site they state that "Kazaa Media Desktop is not bundled with spyware, and we respect your privacy. See our Privacy Statement for information on our data practices."
i remember something about this not being true. do they lie?
from the site:
* Build packages that will install on many different distros
* Packages can be interactive
* Multiple front ends: best is automatically chosen so GUI users get a graphical front end, and command line users get a text based interface
* Multiple language support (both in tools and for your own packages)
* Automatically verifies and resolves dependancies no matter how the software was installed. This means you don't have to use autopackage for all your software, or even any of it, for packages to succesfully install.
The core goals are to be able to boot Linux on an unmodified machine, preferably by CD without opening the case, but via code directly copied to HDD or a USB device is acceptable too.
and
Solutions must be practical in the sense that a 12 year old kid can hope to replicate them in terms of both complexity and cost
since you have to buy the buggy game, buy a mem stick, write some code to the mem stick, enter the game, make the game read from the mem stick to make this exploit work, i think the ruile #1 is not respected.
"loaded in any browser with a free plugin, and effortlessly distributed to billions via the internet. Perfect format."
but for a standalone application? sure, it's a nice feature, but will it be used? for what? games? real apps? there are better tools out there to make standalone games apps:)
i work in an office with 6 people and if i want to talk to just one of them, i write him/her an email. it's just a polite thing: this way i don't disturb the other people in the office. so email is very handy in some situations, even if we are one in front of the other.
A special shortened URL format, (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentn umber=5123456) where the patent number "5123456" may be replaced by any valid patent number within the database, has been established to enable users to more easily construct a URL for bookmarking or linking to the full-text of a single granted patent. To simplify this process even further, the patent grant search process has been modified such that when a search results in a single hit, the user is taken directly to the full-text display for that patent, rather than to a hit list containing only the single patent.
* From: Jan Dubois
* Subject: Re: [Fwd: IMPORTANT: Request removal of WWW::EuroTV]
* Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 13:05:09 -0800
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:44:20 +0100, "Bas A. Schulte"
wrote:
>They're just too ignorant that they think they can publish the data for
>everyone to see can only be seen through their own website.
[...]
>Anyway, I'd love to hear anyone on this with some legal knowledge. I
>don't believe at all that this will hold up in a court of law.
I think this discussion is missing the point. It should not be: "What can
we legally get away with?", but "Do we have the courtesy to respect the
wishes of publishers of information?", even if their wishes might not be
legally enforceable.
Since this is about Perl advocacy, I would like to quote a bit of Perl
culture: "It [Perl] would prefer that you stayed out of its living room
because you weren't invited, not because it has a shotgun."
I think the same rules should apply for screenscrapers too: If website
owners don't want their pages to be scraped, then people shouldn't do it
and get their information elsewhere. It is like honoring a robots.txt
file. It is probably not enforceable, but it is the right thing to do.
Cheers,
-Jan
PS: I'm not saying that "they" weren't the first ones to break the rules
of politeness by threatening a law-suit, instead of just asking for the
modules removal. But that doesn't mean that one has to respond in kind.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:43:19PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> Not only am I quoted as somehow having announced it (EH?), but
> slashdot has just announced the availability of FreeBSD 4.5. I've
> already posted a correction as part of the ensuing thread, but just a
> heads-up in case you guys start getting questions about it. From
> everything I can see, somebody recycled my 4.4 announcement or
> something and the slashdot editors didn't even bother to verify it.
And this wonderful newsflash is brought to us only a few weeks after
the FIRST "Official" CD release of FreeBSD was pre-announced[1]. I
immediately followed that up with a story about the 47th "Official" CD
release of FreeBSD to be released on January 26, but they never posted
it. The editing at Slashdot has been a joke recently. It is very
clear that the posters don't even follow the links in the submissions.
I will send some pointers to the editors to make sure this never
happens again, as I'm sure many readers have already done.
- Murray
i think he is gonna get very angry this time also:))
if you think about performance you're maybe right, but who cares about performance with the computers out there right now. and hardware would cost you money. software not.
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wouldn't a linux distro as gaming OS be the coolest thing ever? if a lot of game developers would focus on one linux distro, and gaming hw makers would focus their drivers developement on it.
Public goods need to benefit EVERYONE, not EVERYONE uses linux or open software.
and not everyone is driving his car on that road, but the gov payed for it. and not everyone is going to the public library, but the gov payed for it, and so on.
oss is just like a library: free information for everyone.
LUGs in our province ub italy take some money for the expenses they have (computers, rental of rooms for lessions, ...) but not for the actual software they write. better than nothing anyway.
If such fragmentation were allowed, you will see exactly the problems you had previously with commercial vendors appearing in Linux products, only multiplied.
are you talking about the bsd license? do you see this happening with bsd?
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ActiveState uses mozilla in Komodo, a really good programming ide for Perl, PHP, Python, Tcl, and XSLT, and maybe for other products.
i have only seen Komodo, and it's a grat ide and makes good use of mozilla (it's embedded in their application).
Now replace IBM with Microsoft, and OS/2 with windows.
that would mean linux=windows.
oh no!
i'm a programmer. and i spend a lot of hours coding. and i like it. and i like beeing payed for it. if i can do what i like, and be payed for it, that's cool. sco pays coders to do code. they probably like it, and the money sco spends for the coders has to return somehow. this is done thru the licence and by selling the code. if ibm really stole sco's code, the are guilty and have to pay sco for it.
really simple.
Companys still would need and pay for the support. Joe Sixpack would obviously not, but he doesn't need real "support".
"Windows users have a fair point that not many games are released for Linux because the market is less than 5% of the Windows market."
and as long the games are only developed for windows, there will never be a linux market for them.
you see... someone has to begin, and bioware did. that's good.
immagine all game developers would stop writing code for windows only, and write just cross-platform games. do you see the linux (insert any other os here) market grow exponentially?
put a mini itx in it :)
" So you make it a disciplinary offence to install unapproved software on a PC used for financial work - which is what our finance department does. And occasionally sweem pachines for unauthorised executables."
yeah yeah.... like this would be possible everywhere. i'm a programmer, and i'm admin on my box. and i install whatever i want. and it has to be that way. and there are a lot of other people which work that way, because it has to be like that.
in this situation, the proposed solution is just plain stupid. maybe it would work under some circumstances, but for sure it's no general solution.
"The standardized configs make sure that everything works and that users can't change it."
and then some user downloads any other IM, wich is not the one configured by the IT staff, and bypasses any logging.
your solution is buggy.
on the site they state that "Kazaa Media Desktop is not bundled with spyware, and we respect your privacy. See our Privacy Statement for information on our data practices."
i remember something about this not being true. do they lie?
Autopackage comes to mind.
from the site:
* Build packages that will install on many different distros
* Packages can be interactive
* Multiple front ends: best is automatically chosen so GUI users get a graphical front end, and command line users get a text based interface
* Multiple language support (both in tools and for your own packages)
* Automatically verifies and resolves dependancies no matter how the software was installed. This means you don't have to use autopackage for all your software, or even any of it, for packages to succesfully install.
"They work for Windows and Mac users too!"
did you read the summary?
read this.
The core goals are to be able to boot Linux on an unmodified machine, preferably by CD without opening the case, but via code directly copied to HDD or a USB device is acceptable too.
and
Solutions must be practical in the sense that a 12 year old kid can hope to replicate them in terms of both complexity and cost
since you have to buy the buggy game, buy a mem stick, write some code to the mem stick, enter the game, make the game read from the mem stick to make this exploit work, i think the ruile #1 is not respected.
but only for now. great job anyway.
no money. it must boot from cd to win the 100.000 $$$
"loaded in any browser with a free plugin, and effortlessly distributed to billions via the internet. Perfect format."
:)
but for a standalone application? sure, it's a nice feature, but will it be used? for what? games? real apps? there are better tools out there to make standalone games apps
i work in an office with 6 people and if i want to talk to just one of them, i write him/her an email.
it's just a polite thing: this way i don't disturb the other people in the office.
so email is very handy in some situations, even if we are one in front of the other.
the submitter shoud have read this:
n umber=5123456) where the patent number "5123456" may be replaced by any valid patent number within the database, has been established to enable users to more easily construct a URL for bookmarking or linking to the full-text of a single granted patent. To simplify this process even further, the patent grant search process has been modified such that when a search results in a single hit, the user is taken directly to the full-text display for that patent, rather than to a hit list containing only the single patent.
A special shortened URL format, (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patent
* From: Jan Dubois
* Subject: Re: [Fwd: IMPORTANT: Request removal of WWW::EuroTV]
* Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 13:05:09 -0800
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:44:20 +0100, "Bas A. Schulte"
wrote:
>They're just too ignorant that they think they can publish the data for
>everyone to see can only be seen through their own website.
[...]
>Anyway, I'd love to hear anyone on this with some legal knowledge. I
>don't believe at all that this will hold up in a court of law.
I think this discussion is missing the point. It should not be: "What can
we legally get away with?", but "Do we have the courtesy to respect the
wishes of publishers of information?", even if their wishes might not be
legally enforceable.
Since this is about Perl advocacy, I would like to quote a bit of Perl
culture: "It [Perl] would prefer that you stayed out of its living room
because you weren't invited, not because it has a shotgun."
I think the same rules should apply for screenscrapers too: If website
owners don't want their pages to be scraped, then people shouldn't do it
and get their information elsewhere. It is like honoring a robots.txt
file. It is probably not enforceable, but it is the right thing to do.
Cheers,
-Jan
PS: I'm not saying that "they" weren't the first ones to break the rules
of politeness by threatening a law-suit, instead of just asking for the
modules removal. But that doesn't mean that one has to respond in kind.
from the freeBSD Mail archives about the 4.5 announcement:
:))
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:43:19PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> Not only am I quoted as somehow having announced it (EH?), but
> slashdot has just announced the availability of FreeBSD 4.5. I've
> already posted a correction as part of the ensuing thread, but just a
> heads-up in case you guys start getting questions about it. From
> everything I can see, somebody recycled my 4.4 announcement or
> something and the slashdot editors didn't even bother to verify it.
And this wonderful newsflash is brought to us only a few weeks after the FIRST "Official" CD release of FreeBSD was pre-announced[1]. I immediately followed that up with a story about the 47th "Official" CD release of FreeBSD to be released on January 26, but they never posted it. The editing at Slashdot has been a joke recently. It is very clear that the posters don't even follow the links in the submissions. I will send some pointers to the editors to make sure this never happens again, as I'm sure many readers have already done.
- Murray
i think he is gonna get very angry this time also
you can patch the firmware of your dvd. check on dvdgenies homepage.
if you think about performance you're maybe right, but who cares about performance with the computers out there right now.
and hardware would cost you money. software not.