Actually, Windows 98 has IPv6 support. It is no longer compliant with the standard, but it is there. In XP it actually works well enough for most uses. About the only thing not ready is cheap networking gear. But managed switches will still work as unmanaged switches. Those old D-link routers, on the other hand...
Not me, because I can't get this out of my head... "LOFAR is sensitive to wavelengths as long as seven meters..." Man... That Pulsar is hung like a mule.
Good for you. But hackers who've transitioned their personal networks isn't going to help much if the main Internet infrastructure doesn't support the new stack.
Rows for hosts, columns for PDU, switch and console ports. Additional rows for asset tag information, unit manufacturer, model number, serial number. Last row for notes on the system, e.g. any historical hardware issues that may be relevant.
Because *that* scales well...
Modded troll by someone who has never had to work with a messed up and out of date spreadsheet designed for a 10 node system that has now grown to well over 100 nodes.
the link to the article lists it as speculation and there is no mention of 8 billions - just 5.4 billion value
It mentions 5.2 billion. But it has some odd symbol like a squiggly L in front of it. Probably Lira or something, I think that's what they use in France.
Please tell me you were going for that +5 Funny mod! Please... I weep for our future...
Usenet has been heading the way of the dinosaurs for quite a few years. By today's standards, it's difficult to use (requires more than a web browser), has a somewhat cumbersome hierarchy and, especially in the case of alt.*, bloated with SPAM.
You can say the same thing about World of Warcraft. So? It is still important to many, and a substantial reduction in service.
The resources required for an ISP to proved a full Usenet feed to its subscribers are enormous and provide very little (read: none) return for the ISP.
A reduction in bandwidth? That was the original purpose after all. You only have to make that posting pass your transit once. It doesn't work so well now, since everyone reposts to get over drops and short retention times. Ooops...
Some might balk at having to pay "extra" for Usenet access (mainly people that refuse to acknowledge that this is 2010, there are better alternatives, and providing access and storage for the behemoth that is Usenet costs a metric ass-ton of cash), I for one don't. At least with pay services, you get decent retention time and at least some assurance you are getting a full feed if that is what you are after.
True. Giga news is better. So farm it out (It is only a few people by their admission) or reduce the fees. What? You just want to cut service and give me nothing back? I wonder why people are upset?
And at the end of the day, the majority of people using the Internet today have no idea what Usenet is, or could give 2 shits about it.
And the majority of people could care less about NASIOC, or Slashdot, or 4chan, or lolcatz, or porn... OK, not the last one.:) So what marginal cost is next? Bittorrent? No, that was the last one. (And I am a Linux dev, so I actually have a legal use for it)
Sure, you've got Google groups, but they're privately owned and moderated by Google.
Usenet is the only distributed, unmoderated message "board" out there that isn't bound by one particular owner's or government's rules. It may not seem important now, but free anonymous and uncensored posts can be very important sometimes...
I won't seem important until no one has it. Unregulated and anonymous communications are one thing every bad guy wants to stop.
"We believe the group of customers that use this service is small enough to not be able to start a revolt, and large enough that we'll see some profit from charging extra. We would do this to the 'using Google' service if we thought we could get away with it. Please ignore how badly this conflicts with our claims that Net Neutrality would destroy the internet, and that we're a self-policing market who wouldn't dare charge people more for certain types or destinations of traffic."
Also, while i agree there are things such as Google groups that are similar, its still not Usenet, and if you weren't a snot nosed kid, you would understand the difference. ( hint, one is distributed, another is a single point of failure/control, for starters. )
And ya, Usenet isn't what it used to be due to the dumbing down of the net due to the influx of idiots "oooh, click, its pretty", but it still has a place, especially as governments try to crack down on information freedoms.
And as the "Ohhh, click, its pretty" croud go away. That is the best part of the web. A vacuum for usenet.
If the price was better, I would buy just a nekid connection with NO additional services. I can roll my own mail, web site, news... Just cut my price! What? You want to cut service, raise the price and shove some personal data-mining junk at me? Uh... Pass...
Yea I love my 386 as much as any other retro nerd, but damn man it sits next to a 2.8ghz multicore with more ram than my 386 has hard disk space
spend the 100$ to get a machine made within the last 5 years
And yet the 386 with a good newsreader is faster than a 8 gig 64 bit i7 mambo nuclear system with bad ajax. Where is the progress again? And why do I want to pay for that?
Is it my imagination, or is Steve being more douchey than usual?
Naaa... He has just been quiet, so you got used to the un-doucheyness of everyone else. Like a loud guy who walks into a quiet room. He is no more loud than normal, but it startles you anyway.
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Well, that an the big X memory leak... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODE3MA
Actually, Windows 98 has IPv6 support. It is no longer compliant with the standard, but it is there. In XP it actually works well enough for most uses. About the only thing not ready is cheap networking gear. But managed switches will still work as unmanaged switches. Those old D-link routers, on the other hand...
Not me, because I can't get this out of my head... "LOFAR is sensitive to wavelengths as long as seven meters..." Man... That Pulsar is hung like a mule.
Good for you. But hackers who've transitioned their personal networks isn't going to help much if the main Internet infrastructure doesn't support the new stack.
It does... http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/
Google is "The Internet", right?
IPv6 is not ready for mainstream use yet.
Yes it is. The problem is that no one is using it, and many applications are IPv6 unaware. When we "run out" I am guessing that this will change fast.
If the future people would even notice. They might just visit a few times in 1969 and never go back. http://www.webscription.net/p-291-mutineers-moon.aspx
But it will totally mess up talking to our grandkids! They will know exactly how bad it was.
Really... Is it that hard?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hayabusa+smart+car&aq=0
DWB... FWN... WTF?
Driving while black. Flying while Nigerian. World Trade Federation.
So the powers that be can say they are doing *something* to combat terrorism. Even though it's pretty much ineffectual.
We should all masturbate to fight terrorism. Just as effective as the TSA, but more fun.
And people wonder why airline travel is down in the US. Or, to the US for that matter.
Rows for hosts, columns for PDU, switch and console ports. Additional rows for asset tag information, unit manufacturer, model number, serial number. Last row for notes on the system, e.g. any historical hardware issues that may be relevant.
Because *that* scales well...
Modded troll by someone who has never had to work with a messed up and out of date spreadsheet designed for a 10 node system that has now grown to well over 100 nodes.
OK. I will just wax Lira-cal...
They are not having my shares. I have had them since Acorn put ARM Holdings public, and I have A LOT of these shares.
Unless "a lot" is 51%, you may not have a choice.
It mentions 5.2 billion. But it has some odd symbol like a squiggly L in front of it. Probably Lira or something, I think that's what they use in France.
Please tell me you were going for that +5 Funny mod! Please... I weep for our future...
...rocks !
No doubt! I mean I though those Hayabusa Smart cars were cool, but this is Awesome!
I guess some mods didn't realize the benefit. :)
It may be, but I am just as surprised I got modded informative. :)
Usenet has been heading the way of the dinosaurs for quite a few years. By today's standards, it's difficult to use (requires more than a web browser), has a somewhat cumbersome hierarchy and, especially in the case of alt.*, bloated with SPAM.
You can say the same thing about World of Warcraft. So? It is still important to many, and a substantial reduction in service.
The resources required for an ISP to proved a full Usenet feed to its subscribers are enormous and provide very little (read: none) return for the ISP.
A reduction in bandwidth? That was the original purpose after all. You only have to make that posting pass your transit once. It doesn't work so well now, since everyone reposts to get over drops and short retention times. Ooops...
Some might balk at having to pay "extra" for Usenet access (mainly people that refuse to acknowledge that this is 2010, there are better alternatives, and providing access and storage for the behemoth that is Usenet costs a metric ass-ton of cash), I for one don't. At least with pay services, you get decent retention time and at least some assurance you are getting a full feed if that is what you are after.
True. Giga news is better. So farm it out (It is only a few people by their admission) or reduce the fees. What? You just want to cut service and give me nothing back? I wonder why people are upset?
And at the end of the day, the majority of people using the Internet today have no idea what Usenet is, or could give 2 shits about it.
And the majority of people could care less about NASIOC, or Slashdot, or 4chan, or lolcatz, or porn... OK, not the last one. :) So what marginal cost is next? Bittorrent? No, that was the last one. (And I am a Linux dev, so I actually have a legal use for it)
Sure, you've got Google groups, but they're privately owned and moderated by Google.
Usenet is the only distributed, unmoderated message "board" out there that isn't bound by one particular owner's or government's rules. It may not seem important now, but free anonymous and uncensored posts can be very important sometimes...
I won't seem important until no one has it. Unregulated and anonymous communications are one thing every bad guy wants to stop.
"We believe the group of customers that use this service is small enough to not be able to start a revolt, and large enough that we'll see some profit from charging extra. We would do this to the 'using Google' service if we thought we could get away with it. Please ignore how badly this conflicts with our claims that Net Neutrality would destroy the internet, and that we're a self-policing market who wouldn't dare charge people more for certain types or destinations of traffic."
Nicely said!
To you perhaps it is, but others its not.
Also, while i agree there are things such as Google groups that are similar, its still not Usenet, and if you weren't a snot nosed kid, you would understand the difference. ( hint, one is distributed, another is a single point of failure/control, for starters. )
And ya, Usenet isn't what it used to be due to the dumbing down of the net due to the influx of idiots "oooh, click, its pretty", but it still has a place, especially as governments try to crack down on information freedoms.
And as the "Ohhh, click, its pretty" croud go away. That is the best part of the web. A vacuum for usenet.
If the price was better, I would buy just a nekid connection with NO additional services. I can roll my own mail, web site, news... Just cut my price! What? You want to cut service, raise the price and shove some personal data-mining junk at me? Uh... Pass...
Yea I love my 386 as much as any other retro nerd, but damn man it sits next to a 2.8ghz multicore with more ram than my 386 has hard disk space
spend the 100$ to get a machine made within the last 5 years
And yet the 386 with a good newsreader is faster than a 8 gig 64 bit i7 mambo nuclear system with bad ajax. Where is the progress again? And why do I want to pay for that?
Is it my imagination, or is Steve being more douchey than usual?
Naaa... He has just been quiet, so you got used to the un-doucheyness of everyone else. Like a loud guy who walks into a quiet room. He is no more loud than normal, but it startles you anyway.