You don't necessarily need a new OS which is a blend between OS X and iOS.
It's conceivable that you run a single application which can switch UI depending on how the device is being used. If the device is motionless, use a desktop/laptop UI. If the device is in motion, use the mobile UI.
At that point, the actual OS is only needed for file manipulation and management of background tasks (and can be either OS X or iOS).
Either way, the OS has to be able to interact with applications on either the desktop or the palm.
I'm betting that the Apple folks have been moving in this direction for quite some time.
The Tesla has a different powertrain and by the nature of being an EV powertrain it has better infotainment systems.
Actually, I disagree with this part. What does the EV powertrain have to do with the infotainment system? For one thing, the Tesla (all electric) Roadster didn't have a particularly good infotainment system. Other electric cars don't have the large customizable screens. Also, other luxury cars have LCD displays that show more than the map. Internal combustion engine cars are coming out now with iOS integration.
No. The question was 'what is Tesla bringing to the table that you think makes it more than "nicer trim and a few extra parts"?'.
And, frankly, if you need to ask what Tesla brings to the table, you haven't been reading much/. lately. A week doesn't go by without 5 Tesla articles.
What Tesla brings to the table are: A complete electric drive train Performance to rival a sports car/supercar (depending which options you get) Free charging at their superchargers for the life of the vehicle Battery sizes that are considered best in class, if not best in any class A modern UI on the dashboard with free updates both to the UI as well as the mapping system (so far) A good warranty (8 year, unlimited mile?) Handling that's adjustable, from as smooth as a Lexus to as stiff as a sports car [I'm sure there's more that I can't think of currently]
As for what makes it a luxury car, I'm not really sure. Probably it's price. The leather quality isn't as good as other luxury cars I've been in Ditto the stitching
Other than that, I can't think of anything that's considered standard in a luxury car that the Tesla doesn't have.
I just like applications to go along with the UI guidelines set by the OS. Chrome breaks that, and so does the new Firefox UI.
Simple things: 1 - Menu items visible right under the title bar 2 - A title bar that can be double-clicked to maximize or restore the screen 3 - Minimize/Maximize/Restore buttons where the OS says they should be. (Chrome hard-codes them to the right side of the top of the window.) 4 - If you allow customization of the top of the screen, as Firefox does, why can't I hide the Open Menu widget when I'm showing the menu items otherwise?
I would complain about Tesla's marketing to people who can't afford their cars, but... I can't recall any marketing done by them other than their blog and videos on YouTube.
I would argue that anyone who bought a car that costs more than a year's salary has piss poor money management skills.;-)
Teslas shouldn't be in the radar of the middle class right now. Leave them for people that make >> $200K for now. Early adopters always pay more and can afford to be out-of-date when the next revision comes down the line a few months later.
I don't understand why people want to buy things they can't afford. I understand that for the economy it's a good thing, but for the individual it has to be better to have less debt.
Wouldn't say I'm an early adopter. I got mine in March. Still love it as much today as I did last week. Still an awesome car.
Did I wish I waited a year? Well, maybe just a little. But I'm sure a year from now the Model S will have even more features.
Perhaps the autopilot can be retrofitted into the currently on-the-road Model S. After all, the other upgrade over the last year have been available at a mild markup.
As for the dual motors, pretty much the same thing.
As an aside, I wonder how this is going to effect sales. I know a few people who have been hesitating as it wasn't an all wheel drive car. As it is, as of last week the wait list was still over two months.
Currently there are thousands of heart pacemakers which wirelessly connect to interrogator devices that sit next to the bed every night. Those devices check the device every night and check in with the company if there's any problem.
Is it impossible to reprogram those interrogators? The manufacturers say so. I guess we should believe them?
I never understoof the fascination of leasing a car for an individual. I can understand for a company, but most cars are worth something at the time the lease is over. Why give it back or have to go through more tortuous negotiating to buy the car then?
If you can't afford to buy a car, perhaps you should look into a cheaper car.
(I'm discounting those that lease $15K cars, since most leases are for more expensive models.)
As it is, automation has already taken the vast majority of jobs. You can run a small store with just a few employees, something that needed a couple dozen just a century ago.
I'm okay w/ systemd. I don't consider myself an enabler. I use Linux for my day to day work. Whatever the kernel guys put in is fine by me. If it breaks my workflow, I look for something else. That's how I switched from Ubuntu to Mint.
There are plenty of FOSS OSs out there. I don't care about the internals of them. I care about the apps they run so I can get my work done.
I wonder how many people there are advocating smaller federal government and less basic science education/research now?
The truth is, like everywhere else in the world, there are people with extreme views there and more moderates. If anything, Texas is going to be more moderate in the next couple decades due to demographic shifts.
whats wrong with the power companies charging two costs: One for the amount of next electricity drawn per month and a second as a line cost that everyone must pay in order to keep service? The line cost should cover updates to service to the house and stuff like that.
I'm a little unclear how I, as a user, can get exploited by this. (I know that it's bash (which pretty much makes MSWindows users immune), but what about the rest of us?)
Do I need to just browse a website on my computer? Do I need to install Apache/PHP or some other server and open an appropriate port on my system? Do I need to have port 22 open? Do I need to have a root user?
"Please note thatn $106,000 will be added to your next bill for the egress bandwidth."
Interesting thought: Cloud providers should offer a low-cost option for getting your petabyte of data out of their system.
Perhaps mailing you a drive (or series of drives) with the data on it? If they allow you to run zfs or other filesystem with snapshot capability, create a snapshot and request that it be mailed to you. Maybe they'll even link in the available drives that can handle the data and you pick which one(s) you want.
Pretty sure they hit the '25,000 electric cars to the people' mark.;-)
As for buying cars from dealers, I've been in quite a few purchases myself. The only dealer I had a reasonably good experience with was Saturn.
With Lexus, Jaguar, and BMW, there was a lot of negotiation. I had to go to several dealers to get competing prices (which were *always* with a spread of $2-3K). In addition, the push was always to buy something either off-the-lot or something that they could have brought over from another dealer's inventory within 2-3 days.
I was with my dad when he went to get his BMW 5 series. They pushed him into a few options he wasn't particularly interested in because they could get the car to the lot in 2 days. And once he signed the contract, it was a done deal. He called the dealership a couple hours later and wanted a different color, and the answer was that the car was already on it's way from across the state. It arrived more than a week later with barely a 'sorry for the delay' from the dealer.
Whether or not his new digital music format can or cannot be pirated is something that remains to be seen
Can you listen to it with your headphones of choice?
The answer to this will be 'No'. The obvious way Apple is going is to change the audio output jack to the headphone to something proprietary like Lightning.
(It won't work, but it will fail like FireWire did. A few people will buy it, but at best it will be an accessory port in addition to the standard audio jack.)
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You don't necessarily need a new OS which is a blend between OS X and iOS.
It's conceivable that you run a single application which can switch UI depending on how the device is being used. If the device is motionless, use a desktop/laptop UI. If the device is in motion, use the mobile UI.
At that point, the actual OS is only needed for file manipulation and management of background tasks (and can be either OS X or iOS).
Either way, the OS has to be able to interact with applications on either the desktop or the palm.
I'm betting that the Apple folks have been moving in this direction for quite some time.
The Tesla has a different powertrain and by the nature of being an EV powertrain it has better infotainment systems.
Actually, I disagree with this part. What does the EV powertrain have to do with the infotainment system? For one thing, the Tesla (all electric) Roadster didn't have a particularly good infotainment system. Other electric cars don't have the large customizable screens. Also, other luxury cars have LCD displays that show more than the map. Internal combustion engine cars are coming out now with iOS integration.
Tesla just does better than the rest (for now).
No. The question was 'what is Tesla bringing to the table that you think makes it more than "nicer trim and a few extra parts"?'.
And, frankly, if you need to ask what Tesla brings to the table, you haven't been reading much /. lately. A week doesn't go by without 5 Tesla articles.
What Tesla brings to the table are:
A complete electric drive train
Performance to rival a sports car/supercar (depending which options you get)
Free charging at their superchargers for the life of the vehicle
Battery sizes that are considered best in class, if not best in any class
A modern UI on the dashboard with free updates both to the UI as well as the mapping system (so far)
A good warranty (8 year, unlimited mile?)
Handling that's adjustable, from as smooth as a Lexus to as stiff as a sports car
[I'm sure there's more that I can't think of currently]
As for what makes it a luxury car, I'm not really sure. Probably it's price.
The leather quality isn't as good as other luxury cars I've been in
Ditto the stitching
Other than that, I can't think of anything that's considered standard in a luxury car that the Tesla doesn't have.
I was under the impression that the binary log entries each had to sign itself and all previous log entries?
So if someone were to alter the log they'd have to alter the signatures of everything downstream in the log, which is presumably easier to figure out?
Or am I mistaken?
I just like applications to go along with the UI guidelines set by the OS. Chrome breaks that, and so does the new Firefox UI.
Simple things:
1 - Menu items visible right under the title bar
2 - A title bar that can be double-clicked to maximize or restore the screen
3 - Minimize/Maximize/Restore buttons where the OS says they should be. (Chrome hard-codes them to the right side of the top of the window.)
4 - If you allow customization of the top of the screen, as Firefox does, why can't I hide the Open Menu widget when I'm showing the menu items otherwise?
Tell that to someone who lives in the US outside of a major city and you'll get a good laugh.
I would complain about Tesla's marketing to people who can't afford their cars, but ... I can't recall any marketing done by them other than their blog and videos on YouTube.
I would argue that anyone who bought a car that costs more than a year's salary has piss poor money management skills. ;-)
Teslas shouldn't be in the radar of the middle class right now. Leave them for people that make >> $200K for now. Early adopters always pay more and can afford to be out-of-date when the next revision comes down the line a few months later.
I don't understand why people want to buy things they can't afford. I understand that for the economy it's a good thing, but for the individual it has to be better to have less debt.
So true. Wish I had mod points.
Wouldn't say I'm an early adopter. I got mine in March. Still love it as much today as I did last week. Still an awesome car.
Did I wish I waited a year? Well, maybe just a little. But I'm sure a year from now the Model S will have even more features.
Perhaps the autopilot can be retrofitted into the currently on-the-road Model S. After all, the other upgrade over the last year have been available at a mild markup.
As for the dual motors, pretty much the same thing.
As an aside, I wonder how this is going to effect sales. I know a few people who have been hesitating as it wasn't an all wheel drive car. As it is, as of last week the wait list was still over two months.
Currently there are thousands of heart pacemakers which wirelessly connect to interrogator devices that sit next to the bed every night. Those devices check the device every night and check in with the company if there's any problem.
Is it impossible to reprogram those interrogators? The manufacturers say so. I guess we should believe them?
I never understoof the fascination of leasing a car for an individual. I can understand for a company, but most cars are worth something at the time the lease is over. Why give it back or have to go through more tortuous negotiating to buy the car then?
If you can't afford to buy a car, perhaps you should look into a cheaper car.
(I'm discounting those that lease $15K cars, since most leases are for more expensive models.)
I rent from Redbox and transfer to computer with makemkv. I then transcode with Handbrake.
I haven't found a single instance where this didn't work.
Or do they mean 1 in 3 remaining jobs?
As it is, automation has already taken the vast majority of jobs. You can run a small store with just a few employees, something that needed a couple dozen just a century ago.
I'm okay w/ systemd. I don't consider myself an enabler. I use Linux for my day to day work. Whatever the kernel guys put in is fine by me. If it breaks my workflow, I look for something else. That's how I switched from Ubuntu to Mint.
There are plenty of FOSS OSs out there. I don't care about the internals of them. I care about the apps they run so I can get my work done.
Think you hit it on the head with Cartoon Network and other cable offerings.
Why would kids limit themselves to that three hour block on Saturday mornings when they can watch whenever they want on CN?
Cable TV killed the Saturday morning cartoons.
I have an aluminum macbook. They only made them in late 2008.
It's running the latest version of OS X. But it's almost certainly going to be dropped by the next version.
Not bad. Frankly, I'm annoyed that the system hasn't broken yet. I want to buy a newer machine and need an excuse.
I wonder how many people there are advocating smaller federal government and less basic science education/research now?
The truth is, like everywhere else in the world, there are people with extreme views there and more moderates. If anything, Texas is going to be more moderate in the next couple decades due to demographic shifts.
whats wrong with the power companies charging two costs: One for the amount of next electricity drawn per month and a second as a line cost that everyone must pay in order to keep service? The line cost should cover updates to service to the house and stuff like that.
I'm a little unclear how I, as a user, can get exploited by this. (I know that it's bash (which pretty much makes MSWindows users immune), but what about the rest of us?)
Do I need to just browse a website on my computer?
Do I need to install Apache/PHP or some other server and open an appropriate port on my system?
Do I need to have port 22 open?
Do I need to have a root user?
"Please note thatn $106,000 will be added to your next bill for the egress bandwidth."
Interesting thought: Cloud providers should offer a low-cost option for getting your petabyte of data out of their system.
Perhaps mailing you a drive (or series of drives) with the data on it? If they allow you to run zfs or other filesystem with snapshot capability, create a snapshot and request that it be mailed to you. Maybe they'll even link in the available drives that can handle the data and you pick which one(s) you want.
Once.
Just once more, to again inspire the children of the world for a generation.
Anyone who could afford a Karma and wanted electric would have already bought a Tesla S or Roadster.
The only way they'll sell some is to greatly upgrade the interior to Tesla Model S-type screen and software.
Pretty sure they hit the '25,000 electric cars to the people' mark. ;-)
As for buying cars from dealers, I've been in quite a few purchases myself. The only dealer I had a reasonably good experience with was Saturn.
With Lexus, Jaguar, and BMW, there was a lot of negotiation. I had to go to several dealers to get competing prices (which were *always* with a spread of $2-3K). In addition, the push was always to buy something either off-the-lot or something that they could have brought over from another dealer's inventory within 2-3 days.
I was with my dad when he went to get his BMW 5 series. They pushed him into a few options he wasn't particularly interested in because they could get the car to the lot in 2 days. And once he signed the contract, it was a done deal. He called the dealership a couple hours later and wanted a different color, and the answer was that the car was already on it's way from across the state. It arrived more than a week later with barely a 'sorry for the delay' from the dealer.
Whether or not his new digital music format can or cannot be pirated is something that remains to be seen
Can you listen to it with your headphones of choice?
The answer to this will be 'No'. The obvious way Apple is going is to change the audio output jack to the headphone to something proprietary like Lightning.
(It won't work, but it will fail like FireWire did. A few people will buy it, but at best it will be an accessory port in addition to the standard audio jack.)