Not in the US - consider the cases of anticipatory arrests in our election season just past. We don't need no stinkin' cause - we can figure that out later....
Get a pair of wireless radios like a tranzeo tr6000, or an Inscape pair, set one to be an ap and the other to infrastructure mode, and there you go. about 500 bucks, less on ebay maybe....
your range will be somewhat greater than 1/2 kilometer.
look at bridge mode
The only real question left in my mind is how I will be paying off my debts when my wireless ISP is made irrelevant by Google. As a paranoid, I am certain that their goal all along has been to make internet available in the old broadcast tv spectrum, and then they can own rural United States access.
All of the United States' ISPs are MANDATED to have the ability to spy on you, at a moment's notice, and send the full stream they request off to FBI or whoever's data warehouse. and they (the ISP) must comply and must not tell you if they are doing so, courtesy of CALEA. Penalties start at $10,000 per day.
Obligatory bow of the head:
I, for one, welcome our new overlords.
The Microsoft and Yahoo data centers are getting their power for the data centers for 1 cent per KWH - 1.6 cents below cost. This means that the ratepayers of Grant county, Washington are subsidizing the richest cats in the United States. The Public Utility District has been asked to put the rate on a contract so they will get priority electrical service. Thus, when power gets tight because of increased system demands (did I mention that data centers use a lot of power?), the data centers get priority and the residential users (mostly rural, mostly poor) get blackouts and higher priced power purchased to make up shortfalls.
I, for one, welcome our new data overlords - and I am honored to pay for their empire. Long live centralized data centers!
Ahh, the kids will fight to the death to keep their mp3's they downloaded... and what pawn shop will be able to resell one with "Davy Crockett Public School" silkscreened on it??
The real cool thing is that suddenly the kids have huge, interesting libraries with books to read and music to listen to IN THEIR ROOM!! and the cost is not necessarily that high.
The cost of 20 books at 60 per book certainly covers it.
A good idea, and worth supporting. Especially since most of those 2,000 books are probably public domain - and pivotal to the better aspects of human civilization (I assume we get stuff globally, not just locally)! I want one!
Ummm, he was not sitting in his truck. He was standing beside it, on the PASSENGER'S side. Not in it.
Nope, not in it.... his daughter was in it - until the police let her get out, and then put her to the ground, cuffed her and sat on her.
Just the facts, ma'am, quoth Sergeant Joe Friday, LAPD
We are an ISP on the Grant County PUD Zipp (www.gcpud.org/zipp/) with our backbone on fiber on the same infrastucture as the power lines, and all of our devices are powered by that grid. When it goes down, we go down. Data, power and all. Why no redundancy? Rural.
And political: the power companies are coming (hah! have come to see) that having the ownership of yet another utility in parallel with their power lines is of great benefit to their earnings potential, and the public is definitely thinking of the internet as a critical piece of utility service, and they en- masse get really pissed off when it goes down.
There are barriers to their taking over the whole thing legislatively here in Washington State - the Public Utility Districts (a bastardized cross between a government agency and a for-profit utility) have been specifically enjoined not to engage in both the wholesale and retail sale of bits.
And as they see it as their fair game, the PUDs have done a lot of going towards retail anyway, with court action and simple brazoning through doing what they want to do. Pacific PUD was recently successfully taken to court, but Whatcom PUD has set up a single ISP as their front with all comers to deal with the retail outlet (including other ISPs) - the same approach that Grant covertly used - see, for hot politics, www.sliderule.net - and there you have it.
The power companies want the pie; and their reliability isn't impressing me these days. We've had five power outages this year of significant duration.
But the difference here is that we can park one of these carrier groups off the coast of some country and either exert enormous political pressure or wage an air war within days. Our DoD budget recently gave everyone who has CNN a spectacular display of where our tax dollars are going as it defeated an entrenched enemy within a couple of weeks. NASA has failed to do the same.
So. A made for TV war is sooooo gooooood, eh? That is how we resolve our issues? We take a group of Military Industrial Complex cronies, who set up the political situation in the mid-east to start with, to sell chemistry sets to small-time petty dictators, to pack our hard earned dollars into little holes in the sand, and compare that to what I would suggest is a more glorious course - the exploration of the universe?
We offer a 10mbps pipe to the home, also, for stupidly low prices (26.95)- less than that, but I see our prices going up a bit (a dollar or two) over the near future. This is a cooperative RURAL initiative venture for us in Grant County, Washington, between Grant County Public Utility District and us ( a small rural ISP) because the enabling legislation in WA will not allow the PUD's to retail-sell internet services but must wholesale through existing ISP's (not a bad idea from MY point of view, as I was a pre-existing ISP offering dialup and JUST rolling out wireless when they came in). This is a seriously cool state in terms of the rural internet access legislation passed by the current, Democratic, Governor Locke, and passed (and initiated) by the Washington Legislature. I thank them all, personally. This is a face of the emerging renaissance in broadband internet access for rural United States, and we have internet access here I would not trade anyone for. "Come on down to Crazy Al's! We got bandwidth for nuthin'! An Infinite number of bits, at prices so low we pay YOU to take 'em!" There are two tiers of service - one price pays all with QoS issues thereby associated - this group is put into a pool of other users, tagged to the ISP's, with the guess being that some will use a bit, others a byte, and the cost will average out. This seems to be working pretty well. The other group is tagged uniquely for billing, and is charged accordingly. Prices may vary disclaimer, here. Bottom line is that we are getting Fiber to the home here for very 'reasonable to the user' pricing. Check out the PUD site with links at http://www.gcpud.org/zipp/
this only works if all of your political dissidents happen to be sweaty 14-year-old hackers.
ALL political and sociocultural dissidents start out as 14 year old sweaty handed (or hairy palmed) souls...
At my computer shop, I have formatted and reinstalled 15 machines in the past 10 days because of a vir-orm of unknown extraction that is not on the Norton radar screen, disables antivirus programs, takes the systems progressively off of the internet, progressively disables the systems and confuses the owner and generally pisses me off. I live in a rural and isolated community of 6000 people in a 20 mile radius, so we are talking significant impact. Not exploited? Not a problem?
hmmmmm. Oh, yes. We have fiber to the home. 1 Mbps connections 24/7, with half of the users with no firewalls or antivirus programs.. ("I need antivirus software? Why? I don't do anything unsafe....")
I have enjoyed Mr. Brin's fiction, and enjoy his insights. I seek them out given the slightest encouragement. That said, I very much fear that the follow through - the watching the watchers - is going to come to be seen as a terrorist act in and of itself. Recall the issues over using police scanners?
Centralized authorities often do not read the instruction sheet on how to do it right. And neither do the rest of us (is it a guy thing, or a human thing?).
Truly, two-way transparency is an idealized good, and enacted sometimes (mostly by accident)by individuals, aggregates of individuals and subsets of civil groups. Remember, though, that it is harder to stop doing evil when those around you are "going along to get along".
I was in Vietnam; I know the evil that we can do for a cause even (or especially) when we don't believe in the cause. We are in deep trouble, girls and boys, and its name is Government...
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Not in the US - consider the cases of anticipatory arrests in our election season just past. We don't need no stinkin' cause - we can figure that out later....
Get a pair of wireless radios like a tranzeo tr6000, or an Inscape pair, set one to be an ap and the other to infrastructure mode, and there you go. about 500 bucks, less on ebay maybe.... your range will be somewhat greater than 1/2 kilometer. look at bridge mode
He's not Muslim?
The only real question left in my mind is how I will be paying off my debts when my wireless ISP is made irrelevant by Google. As a paranoid, I am certain that their goal all along has been to make internet available in the old broadcast tv spectrum, and then they can own rural United States access.
Wanna buy an ISP?
All of the United States' ISPs are MANDATED to have the ability to spy on you, at a moment's notice, and send the full stream they request off to FBI or whoever's data warehouse. and they (the ISP) must comply and must not tell you if they are doing so, courtesy of CALEA. Penalties start at $10,000 per day. Obligatory bow of the head: I, for one, welcome our new overlords.
could it be...corporate money interests? No nouns of the proper sort there...
I welcome our "new" economic overlords. I have nothing (left) to hide...
The Microsoft and Yahoo data centers are getting their power for the data centers for 1 cent per KWH - 1.6 cents below cost. This means that the ratepayers of Grant county, Washington are subsidizing the richest cats in the United States. The Public Utility District has been asked to put the rate on a contract so they will get priority electrical service. Thus, when power gets tight because of increased system demands (did I mention that data centers use a lot of power?), the data centers get priority and the residential users (mostly rural, mostly poor) get blackouts and higher priced power purchased to make up shortfalls. I, for one, welcome our new data overlords - and I am honored to pay for their empire. Long live centralized data centers!
Right after you get off the Oxygen band for your respiratory functions.
Commons means ISPs, too. We aren't all AOLs or Earthlinks, thank you.
Ahh, the kids will fight to the death to keep their mp3's they downloaded... and what pawn shop will be able to resell one with "Davy Crockett Public School" silkscreened on it?? The real cool thing is that suddenly the kids have huge, interesting libraries with books to read and music to listen to IN THEIR ROOM!! and the cost is not necessarily that high. The cost of 20 books at 60 per book certainly covers it. A good idea, and worth supporting. Especially since most of those 2,000 books are probably public domain - and pivotal to the better aspects of human civilization (I assume we get stuff globally, not just locally)! I want one!
Ummm, he was not sitting in his truck. He was standing beside it, on the PASSENGER'S side. Not in it. Nope, not in it.... his daughter was in it - until the police let her get out, and then put her to the ground, cuffed her and sat on her. Just the facts, ma'am, quoth Sergeant Joe Friday, LAPD
He was standing beside the passenger door, outside of the truck, talking through the window to his daughter. He was NOT in the truck.
We are an ISP on the Grant County PUD Zipp (www.gcpud.org/zipp/) with our backbone on fiber on the same infrastucture as the power lines, and all of our devices are powered by that grid. When it goes down, we go down. Data, power and all. Why no redundancy? Rural. And political: the power companies are coming (hah! have come to see) that having the ownership of yet another utility in parallel with their power lines is of great benefit to their earnings potential, and the public is definitely thinking of the internet as a critical piece of utility service, and they en- masse get really pissed off when it goes down. There are barriers to their taking over the whole thing legislatively here in Washington State - the Public Utility Districts (a bastardized cross between a government agency and a for-profit utility) have been specifically enjoined not to engage in both the wholesale and retail sale of bits. And as they see it as their fair game, the PUDs have done a lot of going towards retail anyway, with court action and simple brazoning through doing what they want to do. Pacific PUD was recently successfully taken to court, but Whatcom PUD has set up a single ISP as their front with all comers to deal with the retail outlet (including other ISPs) - the same approach that Grant covertly used - see, for hot politics, www.sliderule.net - and there you have it. The power companies want the pie; and their reliability isn't impressing me these days. We've had five power outages this year of significant duration.
When the power grid goes down, the interference Goes Away! Magic!
Try a refrigerator - I've heard of that working. Put a lock on the door to keep kids out.
Insulated, drillable, Cool in summer, and beer available for the work crew.....
But the difference here is that we can park one of these carrier groups off the coast of some country and either exert enormous political pressure or wage an air war within days. Our DoD budget recently gave everyone who has CNN a spectacular display of where our tax dollars are going as it defeated an entrenched enemy within a couple of weeks. NASA has failed to do the same. So. A made for TV war is sooooo gooooood, eh? That is how we resolve our issues? We take a group of Military Industrial Complex cronies, who set up the political situation in the mid-east to start with, to sell chemistry sets to small-time petty dictators, to pack our hard earned dollars into little holes in the sand, and compare that to what I would suggest is a more glorious course - the exploration of the universe?
We offer a 10mbps pipe to the home, also, for stupidly low prices (26.95)- less than that, but I see our prices going up a bit (a dollar or two) over the near future. This is a cooperative RURAL initiative venture for us in Grant County, Washington, between Grant County Public Utility District and us ( a small rural ISP) because the enabling legislation in WA will not allow the PUD's to retail-sell internet services but must wholesale through existing ISP's (not a bad idea from MY point of view, as I was a pre-existing ISP offering dialup and JUST rolling out wireless when they came in).
This is a seriously cool state in terms of the rural internet access legislation passed by the current, Democratic, Governor Locke, and passed (and initiated) by the Washington Legislature. I thank them all, personally. This is a face of the emerging renaissance in broadband internet access for rural United States, and we have internet access here I would not trade anyone for.
"Come on down to Crazy Al's! We got bandwidth for nuthin'! An Infinite number of bits, at prices so low we pay YOU to take 'em!" There are two tiers of service - one price pays all with QoS issues thereby associated - this group is put into a pool of other users, tagged to the ISP's, with the guess being that some will use a bit, others a byte, and the cost will average out. This seems to be working pretty well. The other group is tagged uniquely for billing, and is charged accordingly. Prices may vary disclaimer, here. Bottom line is that we are getting Fiber to the home here for very 'reasonable to the user' pricing. Check out the PUD site with links at http://www.gcpud.org/zipp/
Grab some cat5, a nic and visit your friend. Heck, you still have 50 meters of play room...
this only works if all of your political dissidents happen to be sweaty 14-year-old hackers.
ALL political and sociocultural dissidents start out as 14 year old sweaty handed (or hairy palmed) souls...
At my computer shop, I have formatted and reinstalled 15 machines in the past 10 days because of a vir-orm of unknown extraction that is not on the Norton radar screen, disables antivirus programs, takes the systems progressively off of the internet, progressively disables the systems and confuses the owner and generally pisses me off. I live in a rural and isolated community of 6000 people in a 20 mile radius, so we are talking significant impact. Not exploited? Not a problem? hmmmmm. Oh, yes. We have fiber to the home. 1 Mbps connections 24/7, with half of the users with no firewalls or antivirus programs.. ("I need antivirus software? Why? I don't do anything unsafe....")
I have enjoyed Mr. Brin's fiction, and enjoy his insights. I seek them out given the slightest encouragement. That said, I very much fear that the follow through - the watching the watchers - is going to come to be seen as a terrorist act in and of itself. Recall the issues over using police scanners?
Centralized authorities often do not read the instruction sheet on how to do it right. And neither do the rest of us (is it a guy thing, or a human thing?).
Truly, two-way transparency is an idealized good, and enacted sometimes (mostly by accident)by individuals, aggregates of individuals and subsets of civil groups. Remember, though, that it is harder to stop doing evil when those around you are "going along to get along".
I was in Vietnam; I know the evil that we can do for a cause even (or especially) when we don't believe in the cause. We are in deep trouble, girls and boys, and its name is Government...