Is it the "oops" release of 10.2.8 or the fixed one? I haven't tried 10.2.8 on a beige yet, but otherwise it seems to be fine...even the problematic ethernet error didn't affect machines using 100base.
I did have a problem applying 10.2.8 once though, it just stopped copying files and I force quit it...bad move since the system couldn't boot. So I can agree with you on wanting some smaller chunks to update with (optionally).
I'm broke and stuck with an older Mac for now too:(
I dunno, I spent $60 on a $200 (open box, from $320) TV...which wound up breaking 18 months later and they gave me a brand new $250 TV to replace it (plus I still have another 18 months of coverage at Sears). Saved me almost the original cost of my TV.
Then again I've had other components that have never had issues in years (like my Powerbook).
It's a gamble at any rate, and depends on the product. I personally think it's a good idea on laptops though, since repair parts and costs on them are insane.
Well, first off, the video card could be very influential in that.
Second, try playing something that, you know, came out after the 1.1 Tbird. Betcha you'd see a difference between the two playing UT2k3 or Halo. Or does your philosophy of buying older stuff apply to software as well?;)
I know I saw a difference going from a PIII 866 to a P4 2Ghz.
Sure, paying out the nose to have the absolute fastest is silly...but decent stuff isn't *that* expensive (for instance, ~$90 for a Barton 2500+). If you wouldn't exploit the potential of a new CPU, great, don't buy one. There are others of us though that manage to find a use for the power. No ego involved.
The iPod requires 2k or XP as well. Always has, my brother had that problem with his first gen "for Windows" model.
Apple has little reason to support older Windows revs.
If we were all going to be playing this game already, why would Software Etc. have recieved a release date of next year before Valve fessed up to the *first* delay? You'd think they'd want to let retailers know when to expect it.
I heard and believed that HL2 was going to be pushed back to next year. I still can't wait to get my paws on it, though all the stupidity with ATI/nVidia, Steam, and this theft are sorta dampening that.
Strange, from apparent capability I wouldn't even let you into the same room as my computers. Macs or PCs.
I've seen quite a few Dell laptops here at work...do you hate your friend that much?
Yes, but that style isn't particularly unique to the Matrix. I still consider that to be something that was borrowed from other sources, such as Battle Angel, Armitage III, Dark City, Ghost in the Shell, etc.
Not to mention that the movie would likely have been in post-production when Reloaded came out.
The Matrix certainly did popularize the leather trenchcoat mafia trend currently working its way through Hollwood...but it wasn't first at that either.
How exactly do you rip off a series that persists in ripping off anime and sci-fi?
The only thing the Matrix did was put things in front of a large audience, many of whom would find them new.
Underworld was quite entertaining I thought. As for profit...the movie only cost $22 million to make. It became profitable on the opening weekend. It was flawed, but nowhere near as bad as it could have been. You saw Blade 2, right? Ugh.
I've been noticing them in movies lately too. Dang annoying.
Yes, in the theater. I don't bother with pirate copies of movies online.
They remove the "cigarette burns" and such for DVD release, so I can't see why they'd leave these in. I'd have a hard time believing that they'd mess up master copies like this.
My mom has one of those. Inside you wouldn't even know it's diesel (got a slight signature clickety-clack outside). Very torquey too, and fun to drive according to everyone in my family that's driven it.
Sure?
According to what I've checked,
7 Liters would be 1.8473 Gallons
100Km would be 62.15 miles
So you'd be getting 33.64 miles to the gallon.
About the same as my Neon on average driving.
There may be differences in emissions control and probably in gearing as well. European cars (as in, cars actually in Europe) seem to be tuned a little more towards performance to me...but I'd think that if a car maker had a 78MPG car, they'd produce it worldwide.
There was also some liberal sampling of Ghost in the Shell and Serial Experiments Lain (still to be determined how much of that one) from the anime world. There were tributes to GiTS (supposedly) in there too, as shown in this site. Also a brief one for Lain here.
Plus a smattering of Deism and other religions, as shown on the official site.
What the Matrix really did nicely was take some of those more fringe works and put them in a package that the average action movie fan could enjoy. Personally I think that's a good thing, especially if it gets people into sci-fi or anime or whatever as a result.
1.) No you don't. In some cases, you pay less (Apple bought-out apps like Shake). Unless of course your primary basis of comparison is the bargain games bin. Last I checked, Office, Photoshop, Painter, etc were all the same or about the same price.
2.) Yep, but then, so is pretty much anything but Intel/AMD.
3.) It's called advertising. Check a little company called Intel for more examples.
4.) Yeah...though choice isn't always needed. It's nice, but I'd rather have two options that definitely work than 10 that sorta work.
5.) True, to an extent. But then, without repurchasing software you can't escape from Windows either.
6.) Plus the rest of us that use multiple platforms based on particular strengths. There are more than enough Windows users that are entirely clueless too. At least the "arrogant, arty Apple types" can get themselves on the Web;)
7.) riiight
I graduated in Graphic Design, and did the program with a Mac (required to buy in fact). Yeah, they're more expensive...but if you're legally acquiring software so is that. Good tools are, in general.
Too expensive to buy at all is total BS though. You can get an eMac starting at $750. It's not the fastest thing out there, but it's a Mac in the low end price bracket. Or you can generally put a computer purchase into financial aid (if it's required) or use credit otherwise. I'd suspect that more people want a PC for games or easily available pirated software than anything else. I know those were complaints about the required Powerbooks where I went. Powermacs are not slow; G5s certainly aren't going to be. Remember that until the PII era, Macs were ahead. First to 300Mhz even. They might be going there again.
My Mac is a work computer. I don't dink around on it like I do on my PC. The 400Mhz G4 is fast enough for anything I want to do. The processing time is miniscule (usually) compared to the planning. Just like in the real world cost of the computer is nothing compared to labor. I never had any work turned in late or unfinished due to the "slow" processor (compared to my 2Ghz P4) or compatability issues.
As for Macs being finicky...they're the better system for compatability. Try putting a Mac disc into your PC lately? (other than burned discs that specifically have compatability) If it's file differences between the Mac and PC versions of software, that's no fault of the platform but rather a fault of the company that made it. Of course, if you're running OS9 for some unspeakable reason, I feel sorry for you...
Have you used OSX? Unicode support throughout from what I can tell (and from what the docs claim). You can switch the OS over to Asian characters if you wish, without buying anything extra.
In my experience the Mac has been the more flexible for fonts and language...but admittedly I have little experience with foreign language.
Think for a second about how much the person using the computer makes. Multiply that by the company's personnel roster count.
You really think an extra $1000 every two or three years matters if it keeps a $40k a year employee happily working during that time? A business trip costs more, or a weekend retreat.
Heck, if it means that one or more IT people aren't needed, the cost could be absorbed. Or if 200 people lose 2 hours of work (virus or whatever) and make $20 an hour, that's $8000 right there...what happens if you lose a day or people make more?
Fact is, hardware and software are *not* the most expensive thing with an organization. Labor is. So in perspective, $2500 isn't that much more than $1100.
Not to mention that I see Macs stay in service longer than most PCs...
Personally I thought the Saturn Tomb Raider didn't look as good as the PSX...for instance, no real water to speak of and a washed out palette...
But I'm not too big a TR fan, so perhaps it's different otherwise.
The 2D offerings on that system shamed the PSX though, and still are a good reason to own the system (ignoring that most of the fighters are on MAME).
Agreed that the Saturn and DC are excellent systems that just got snubbed. Especially the DC though, since the hardware wasn't as quirky as the Saturn.
I can see your position on it. No, I don't have kids (dunno about other posters), but I still think it should be a matter of end users.
Should we ban DVD players because they can play porn? Ban books because they can carry messages of hate and prejudice? Ban the internet because it can be used to traffic child porn and snuff films?
I don't think so.
Saying that Kazaa should be shut down because of a file you can find is no different than crying for the end of the ftp protocol or IRC.
I've used Photoshop since version 4 (about 6 years). Photopaint and Photodeluxe before that. So yeah, I'm definitely more used to Photoshop and similar interfaces...however, that goes for most artists (my degree is in Graphic Design).
GIMP is reasonably on par with Photoshop Elements for features, since Elements also doesn't deal with Channels or CMYK, and has stripped down features elsewhere (such as selection and pen tool). Paint Shop Pro I'm not sure, since I don't use it right now. But last I saw it had some good utilities for animated GIFs and such that I'm not sure if the GIMP does.
$500 or $1000 doesn't just get you Photoshop, keep in mind. It also will get you Acrobat (full), Illustrator, and usually your choice of InDesign, After Effects or Premiere (or mixed and matched, depending). Consider that you then could use the apps for several years (easily) of professional work. Compare that to (potentially) several thousand dollars for a year lease of Maya or Softimage. Or $70k for a nonlinear video editing system (plus yearly maintenance). In the field of professional software, Photoshop is quite affordable. Software is just as important as hardware, and takes just as much work to make. If you can afford to go buy a $600 scanner, $400 digital camera, $1500 computer, etc then you can afford another $500 for the appropriate software.
That's before the (much greater) employee cost.
It's comparable to say, spending $600 on a decent guitar or mountain bike or whatever else. It's not like you need a new one every week.
I agree that I see lots of people put in purchase orders for Photoshop just to use it for resizing pics to put in Powerpoint because it's the name they know. That's a waste. However, I'd say that near anyone doing reasonably serious digital art will find benefits to owning Photoshop. It's an exceedingly flexible tool, versus say, that $300 copy of MS Word.
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Is it the "oops" release of 10.2.8 or the fixed one? I haven't tried 10.2.8 on a beige yet, but otherwise it seems to be fine...even the problematic ethernet error didn't affect machines using 100base. I did have a problem applying 10.2.8 once though, it just stopped copying files and I force quit it...bad move since the system couldn't boot. So I can agree with you on wanting some smaller chunks to update with (optionally). I'm broke and stuck with an older Mac for now too :(
I dunno, I spent $60 on a $200 (open box, from $320) TV...which wound up breaking 18 months later and they gave me a brand new $250 TV to replace it (plus I still have another 18 months of coverage at Sears). Saved me almost the original cost of my TV. Then again I've had other components that have never had issues in years (like my Powerbook). It's a gamble at any rate, and depends on the product. I personally think it's a good idea on laptops though, since repair parts and costs on them are insane.
Well, first off, the video card could be very influential in that. Second, try playing something that, you know, came out after the 1.1 Tbird. Betcha you'd see a difference between the two playing UT2k3 or Halo. Or does your philosophy of buying older stuff apply to software as well? ;)
I know I saw a difference going from a PIII 866 to a P4 2Ghz.
Sure, paying out the nose to have the absolute fastest is silly...but decent stuff isn't *that* expensive (for instance, ~$90 for a Barton 2500+). If you wouldn't exploit the potential of a new CPU, great, don't buy one. There are others of us though that manage to find a use for the power. No ego involved.
The iPod requires 2k or XP as well. Always has, my brother had that problem with his first gen "for Windows" model. Apple has little reason to support older Windows revs.
Amen I had mod points today, you'd get 'em. My eMusic situation is pretty much the same.
I tend to use Winamp for audio and Zoom Player (zPlayer) for video.
If we were all going to be playing this game already, why would Software Etc. have recieved a release date of next year before Valve fessed up to the *first* delay? You'd think they'd want to let retailers know when to expect it.
I heard and believed that HL2 was going to be pushed back to next year. I still can't wait to get my paws on it, though all the stupidity with ATI/nVidia, Steam, and this theft are sorta dampening that.
Strange, from apparent capability I wouldn't even let you into the same room as my computers. Macs or PCs. I've seen quite a few Dell laptops here at work...do you hate your friend that much?
Yes, but that style isn't particularly unique to the Matrix. I still consider that to be something that was borrowed from other sources, such as Battle Angel, Armitage III, Dark City, Ghost in the Shell, etc.
Not to mention that the movie would likely have been in post-production when Reloaded came out.
The Matrix certainly did popularize the leather trenchcoat mafia trend currently working its way through Hollwood...but it wasn't first at that either.
How exactly do you rip off a series that persists in ripping off anime and sci-fi? The only thing the Matrix did was put things in front of a large audience, many of whom would find them new. Underworld was quite entertaining I thought. As for profit...the movie only cost $22 million to make. It became profitable on the opening weekend. It was flawed, but nowhere near as bad as it could have been. You saw Blade 2, right? Ugh.
I've been noticing them in movies lately too. Dang annoying.
Yes, in the theater. I don't bother with pirate copies of movies online.
They remove the "cigarette burns" and such for DVD release, so I can't see why they'd leave these in. I'd have a hard time believing that they'd mess up master copies like this.
Apple uses Open Firmware, the same as Sun, possibly IBM, and others. You can easily boot Linux on a Mac if you want.
I already only costs them a few bucks to physically make the thing and ship it.
Considering DS9 (and other shows) already ran on TV and presumably made money that way, they're already raking cash with the sets.
You worked on Office XP, didn't you?
My mom has one of those. Inside you wouldn't even know it's diesel (got a slight signature clickety-clack outside). Very torquey too, and fun to drive according to everyone in my family that's driven it.
Sure? According to what I've checked, 7 Liters would be 1.8473 Gallons 100Km would be 62.15 miles So you'd be getting 33.64 miles to the gallon. About the same as my Neon on average driving. There may be differences in emissions control and probably in gearing as well. European cars (as in, cars actually in Europe) seem to be tuned a little more towards performance to me...but I'd think that if a car maker had a 78MPG car, they'd produce it worldwide.
There was also some liberal sampling of Ghost in the Shell and Serial Experiments Lain (still to be determined how much of that one) from the anime world. There were tributes to GiTS (supposedly) in there too, as shown in this site. Also a brief one for Lain here. Plus a smattering of Deism and other religions, as shown on the official site.
What the Matrix really did nicely was take some of those more fringe works and put them in a package that the average action movie fan could enjoy. Personally I think that's a good thing, especially if it gets people into sci-fi or anime or whatever as a result.
Blue Label is also cheap at around $30 (if I remember right). Very nice little bit o' software for the money.
1.) No you don't. In some cases, you pay less (Apple bought-out apps like Shake). Unless of course your primary basis of comparison is the bargain games bin. Last I checked, Office, Photoshop, Painter, etc were all the same or about the same price. 2.) Yep, but then, so is pretty much anything but Intel/AMD. 3.) It's called advertising. Check a little company called Intel for more examples. 4.) Yeah...though choice isn't always needed. It's nice, but I'd rather have two options that definitely work than 10 that sorta work. 5.) True, to an extent. But then, without repurchasing software you can't escape from Windows either. 6.) Plus the rest of us that use multiple platforms based on particular strengths. There are more than enough Windows users that are entirely clueless too. At least the "arrogant, arty Apple types" can get themselves on the Web ;)
7.) riiight
I graduated in Graphic Design, and did the program with a Mac (required to buy in fact). Yeah, they're more expensive...but if you're legally acquiring software so is that. Good tools are, in general.
Too expensive to buy at all is total BS though. You can get an eMac starting at $750. It's not the fastest thing out there, but it's a Mac in the low end price bracket. Or you can generally put a computer purchase into financial aid (if it's required) or use credit otherwise. I'd suspect that more people want a PC for games or easily available pirated software than anything else. I know those were complaints about the required Powerbooks where I went. Powermacs are not slow; G5s certainly aren't going to be. Remember that until the PII era, Macs were ahead. First to 300Mhz even. They might be going there again.
My Mac is a work computer. I don't dink around on it like I do on my PC. The 400Mhz G4 is fast enough for anything I want to do. The processing time is miniscule (usually) compared to the planning. Just like in the real world cost of the computer is nothing compared to labor. I never had any work turned in late or unfinished due to the "slow" processor (compared to my 2Ghz P4) or compatability issues.
As for Macs being finicky...they're the better system for compatability. Try putting a Mac disc into your PC lately? (other than burned discs that specifically have compatability) If it's file differences between the Mac and PC versions of software, that's no fault of the platform but rather a fault of the company that made it. Of course, if you're running OS9 for some unspeakable reason, I feel sorry for you...
Have you used OSX? Unicode support throughout from what I can tell (and from what the docs claim). You can switch the OS over to Asian characters if you wish, without buying anything extra. In my experience the Mac has been the more flexible for fonts and language...but admittedly I have little experience with foreign language.
Think for a second about how much the person using the computer makes. Multiply that by the company's personnel roster count. You really think an extra $1000 every two or three years matters if it keeps a $40k a year employee happily working during that time? A business trip costs more, or a weekend retreat. Heck, if it means that one or more IT people aren't needed, the cost could be absorbed. Or if 200 people lose 2 hours of work (virus or whatever) and make $20 an hour, that's $8000 right there...what happens if you lose a day or people make more? Fact is, hardware and software are *not* the most expensive thing with an organization. Labor is. So in perspective, $2500 isn't that much more than $1100. Not to mention that I see Macs stay in service longer than most PCs...
Personally I thought the Saturn Tomb Raider didn't look as good as the PSX...for instance, no real water to speak of and a washed out palette... But I'm not too big a TR fan, so perhaps it's different otherwise. The 2D offerings on that system shamed the PSX though, and still are a good reason to own the system (ignoring that most of the fighters are on MAME). Agreed that the Saturn and DC are excellent systems that just got snubbed. Especially the DC though, since the hardware wasn't as quirky as the Saturn.
I can see your position on it. No, I don't have kids (dunno about other posters), but I still think it should be a matter of end users. Should we ban DVD players because they can play porn? Ban books because they can carry messages of hate and prejudice? Ban the internet because it can be used to traffic child porn and snuff films? I don't think so. Saying that Kazaa should be shut down because of a file you can find is no different than crying for the end of the ftp protocol or IRC.
I've used Photoshop since version 4 (about 6 years). Photopaint and Photodeluxe before that. So yeah, I'm definitely more used to Photoshop and similar interfaces...however, that goes for most artists (my degree is in Graphic Design). GIMP is reasonably on par with Photoshop Elements for features, since Elements also doesn't deal with Channels or CMYK, and has stripped down features elsewhere (such as selection and pen tool). Paint Shop Pro I'm not sure, since I don't use it right now. But last I saw it had some good utilities for animated GIFs and such that I'm not sure if the GIMP does. $500 or $1000 doesn't just get you Photoshop, keep in mind. It also will get you Acrobat (full), Illustrator, and usually your choice of InDesign, After Effects or Premiere (or mixed and matched, depending). Consider that you then could use the apps for several years (easily) of professional work. Compare that to (potentially) several thousand dollars for a year lease of Maya or Softimage. Or $70k for a nonlinear video editing system (plus yearly maintenance). In the field of professional software, Photoshop is quite affordable. Software is just as important as hardware, and takes just as much work to make. If you can afford to go buy a $600 scanner, $400 digital camera, $1500 computer, etc then you can afford another $500 for the appropriate software. That's before the (much greater) employee cost. It's comparable to say, spending $600 on a decent guitar or mountain bike or whatever else. It's not like you need a new one every week. I agree that I see lots of people put in purchase orders for Photoshop just to use it for resizing pics to put in Powerpoint because it's the name they know. That's a waste. However, I'd say that near anyone doing reasonably serious digital art will find benefits to owning Photoshop. It's an exceedingly flexible tool, versus say, that $300 copy of MS Word.